Monday grumble.

I've dug out yet another stash of stuff (cable ties this time) and the
plastic carrier bag is self destructing as do most bags of a certain age.

I can understand that this was seen as a good idea at one time because
plastic bags in the countryside and in landfill would crumble away in time
instead of being there "forever".

However it is a royal pain in the arse when your stock of "useful
sometimes" carefully stored in carrier bags (reuse instead of rubbish) are
suddenly found to be scattered everywhere because the bag has
disintegrated (as designed).

Further 20/20 hindsight suggests that with the major environmental issue
now being micro plastics, disintegrating carrier bags are making the
environment worse not better.

Grump.

Now back to tidying up the mess and rehoming my stash of cable ties.
I may even (eventually) get round to using a couple of cable ties which is
what I set out to do some time ago.

Cheers


Dave R



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On 19/04/2021 12:44, David wrote:
Monday grumble.

I've dug out yet another stash of stuff (cable ties this time) and the
plastic carrier bag is self destructing as do most bags of a certain age.

I can understand that this was seen as a good idea at one time because
plastic bags in the countryside and in landfill would crumble away in time
instead of being there "forever".

However it is a royal pain in the arse when your stock of "useful
sometimes" carefully stored in carrier bags (reuse instead of rubbish) are
suddenly found to be scattered everywhere because the bag has
disintegrated (as designed).

Further 20/20 hindsight suggests that with the major environmental issue
now being micro plastics, disintegrating carrier bags are making the
environment worse not better.

Grump.

Now back to tidying up the mess and rehoming my stash of cable ties.
I may even (eventually) get round to using a couple of cable ties which is
what I set out to do some time ago.

The Co-Op certainly had bags that disintegrated in the distant past, but
I though all "for life" bags were pretty rugged.

What bags are these as your experience isn't common apart from the bags
I mentioned?

On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 12:53:22 +0100, Fredxx wrote:

On 19/04/2021 12:44, David wrote:
Monday grumble.

I've dug out yet another stash of stuff (cable ties this time) and the
plastic carrier bag is self destructing as do most bags of a certain
age.

I can understand that this was seen as a good idea at one time because
plastic bags in the countryside and in landfill would crumble away in
time instead of being there "forever".

However it is a royal pain in the arse when your stock of "useful
sometimes" carefully stored in carrier bags (reuse instead of rubbish)
are suddenly found to be scattered everywhere because the bag has
disintegrated (as designed).

Further 20/20 hindsight suggests that with the major environmental
issue now being micro plastics, disintegrating carrier bags are making
the environment worse not better.

Grump.

Now back to tidying up the mess and rehoming my stash of cable ties.
I may even (eventually) get round to using a couple of cable ties which
is what I set out to do some time ago.

The Co-Op certainly had bags that disintegrated in the distant past, but
I though all "for life" bags were pretty rugged.

What bags are these as your experience isn't common apart from the bags
I mentioned?

Before the "for life" bags when supermarkets gave away plastic bags like
they were going out of fashion.

More recently reuse of bags has been encouraged with "bags for life" and
various plant fibre bags. Also charging for single use plastic bags.

However an earlier initiative was to supply ?biodegradeable? plastic bags
which would disintegrate after a period of time and so not clutter the
place up.

Going back a good few years, now, possibly decades.

Well over 5 years for this bag because it was from Hong Kong Airport and
that was a good while back.

Co-op and Tesco for a minimum but I thought that for a while all the major
supermarkets were in on this "green" initiative.

Cheers


Dave R



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On 19/04/2021 12:53, Fredxx wrote:

The Co-Op certainly had bags that disintegrated in the distant past, but
I though all "for life" bags were pretty rugged.

My experience is that most of the major supermarkets had self
destructing carrier bags.


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On 19/04/2021 12:44, David wrote:
Monday grumble.

I've dug out yet another stash of stuff (cable ties this time) and the
plastic carrier bag is self destructing as do most bags of a certain age.

I can understand that this was seen as a good idea at one time because
plastic bags in the countryside and in landfill would crumble away in time
instead of being there "forever".

However it is a royal pain in the arse when your stock of "useful
sometimes" carefully stored in carrier bags (reuse instead of rubbish) are
suddenly found to be scattered everywhere because the bag has
disintegrated (as designed).

Further 20/20 hindsight suggests that with the major environmental issue
now being micro plastics, disintegrating carrier bags are making the
environment worse not better.

Grump.

Now back to tidying up the mess and rehoming my stash of cable ties.
I may even (eventually) get round to using a couple of cable ties which is
what I set out to do some time ago.

Cheers


Dave R



I tend to tidy up my cable ties by sorting them into bundles
using....cable ties. I don't find carrier bags particularly useful for
storing stuff, I tend to use stacking boxes with screw top jars (glass
or plastic) for smaller bits.

alan_m wrote:
On 19/04/2021 12:53, Fredxx wrote:

The Co-Op certainly had bags that disintegrated in the distant past, but
I though all "for life" bags were pretty rugged.

My experience is that most of the major supermarkets had self
destructing carrier bags.



€œHad€� being the operative word. I think theyve all dropped the
oxy-degradable bags.

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On 19/04/2021 12:44, David wrote:
Monday grumble.

I've dug out yet another stash of stuff (cable ties this time) and the
plastic carrier bag is self destructing as do most bags of a certain age.

I can understand that this was seen as a good idea at one time because
plastic bags in the countryside and in landfill would crumble away in
time
instead of being there "forever".

However it is a royal pain in the arse when your stock of "useful
sometimes" carefully stored in carrier bags (reuse instead of rubbish)
are
suddenly found to be scattered everywhere because the bag has
disintegrated (as designed).

Further 20/20 hindsight suggests that with the major environmental issue
now being micro plastics, disintegrating carrier bags are making the
environment worse not better.

Grump.

Now back to tidying up the mess and rehoming my stash of cable ties.
I may even (eventually) get round to using a couple of cable ties which
is
what I set out to do some time ago.

Cheers


Dave R



I tend to tidy up my cable ties by sorting them into bundles
using....cable ties. I don't find carrier bags particularly useful for
storing stuff, I tend to use stacking boxes with screw top jars (glass or
plastic) for smaller bits.

Yeah, me too. And those little plastic chests of
4-5 shallow drawers intended for storing paper.

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On 19/04/2021 15:31, alan_m wrote:
On 19/04/2021 12:53, Fredxx wrote:

The Co-Op certainly had bags that disintegrated in the distant past,
but I though all "for life" bags were pretty rugged.

My experience is that most of the major supermarkets had self
destructing carrier bags.


I have recently helped clear the house of a deceased "hoarder" The
garage had many many Tesco carrier bags full of Tesco carrier bags.
(They might come in useful one day). Far from being useful they had
disintegrated into potential confetti. They held their shape until
touched but you can imagine the mess trying to clear them out.

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On Monday, 19 April 2021 at 12:44:58 UTC+1, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:

Now back to tidying up the mess and rehoming my stash of cable ties.
I may even (eventually) get round to using a couple of cable ties which is
what I set out to do some time ago.


Re-usable cable ties, please. The number of used-once cable ties you see around the place, mostly cut off and lying on the ground where they fell, is huge.

I got a bundle of re-usable ones some time ago and have found them excellent. Sometimes, almost immediately after applying one, I realise I want to change something or other. Far easier and better to open it up and re-use than cut off and use a new one.

In article ,
polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Monday, 19 April 2021 at 12:44:58 UTC+1, David WE Roberts (Google)
wrote:

Now back to tidying up the mess and rehoming my stash of cable ties. I
may even (eventually) get round to using a couple of cable ties which
is what I set out to do some time ago.


Re-usable cable ties, please. The number of used-once cable ties you see
around the place, mostly cut off and lying on the ground where they fell,
is huge.

I got a bundle of re-usable ones some time ago and have found them
excellent. Sometimes, almost immediately after applying one, I realise I
want to change something or other. Far easier and better to open it up
and re-use than cut off and use a new one.

I generally use reuseable ones, but they aren't as neat as the one-time
ones and come in a very restricted colour range. So, if its a
semi-permanent job, I'll use the one time version.

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On 19/04/2021 12:44, David wrote:
Monday grumble.

I've dug out yet another stash of stuff (cable ties this time) and the
plastic carrier bag is self destructing as do most bags of a certain age.

I can understand that this was seen as a good idea at one time because
plastic bags in the countryside and in landfill would crumble away in time
instead of being there "forever".

However it is a royal pain in the arse when your stock of "useful
sometimes" carefully stored in carrier bags (reuse instead of rubbish) are
suddenly found to be scattered everywhere because the bag has
disintegrated (as designed).

Further 20/20 hindsight suggests that with the major environmental issue
now being micro plastics, disintegrating carrier bags are making the
environment worse not better.

Most envirobollox is - er ********.

The world is fairly clean and healthy in the UK, but they have to find
something to tax you for and to keep the charities going.,

Grump.

Now back to tidying up the mess and rehoming my stash of cable ties.
I may even (eventually) get round to using a couple of cable ties which is
what I set out to do some time ago.

I invested in Raaco cabinets for most small things.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Raaco-RAA12.../dp/B0001JZYAG

Cheers


Dave R





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