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My wheel back dining chair seat has disintegrated (no corpulence
aspersions please). The puzzle is what was the original material.
The appearance is a thin version of hardboard!

Plenty of chair webbing and instructions on the web but I think cutting
and re-nailing sheet material looks easier.

Could it have been Elephant hide? Chair age unknown but possibly
Edwardian.
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On 21/03/2021 16:04, Tim Lamb wrote:
My wheel back dining chair seat has disintegrated (no corpulence
aspersions please). The puzzle is what was the original material.
The appearance is a thin version of hardboard!

Plenty of chair webbing and instructions on the web but I think cutting
and re-nailing sheet material looks easier.

Could it have been Elephant hide? Chair age unknown but possibly Edwardian.


I think you need something that has a bit of 'give', like proper
webbing but the Uniroyal stuff is very expensive.

Maybe it was just a tough bit of leather ?.
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On 21/03/2021 16:04, Tim Lamb wrote:
My wheel back dining chair seat has disintegrated (no corpulence
aspersions please). The puzzle is what was the original material.
The appearance is a thin version of hardboard!
Plenty of chair webbing and instructions on the web but I think
cutting and re-nailing sheet material looks easier.
Could it have been Elephant hide? Chair age unknown but possibly
Edwardian.


I think you need something that has a bit of 'give', like proper
webbing but the Uniroyal stuff is very expensive.

Maybe it was just a tough bit of leather ?.


Generations of bums have created a curved base which is now split. I
have a roll of webbing although nothing fancy.

The wooden tool used for stretching looks easy to make. The problem is
likely to be the lack of horizontal surface for applying the recommended
5 nails/staples. The original has a single row of domed brass pins.


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On 21/03/2021 16:04, Tim Lamb wrote:
My wheel back dining chair seat has disintegrated (no corpulence
aspersions please). The puzzle is what was the original material.
The appearance is a thin version of hardboard!
*Plenty of chair webbing and instructions on the web but I think
cutting* and re-nailing sheet material looks easier.
*Could it have been Elephant hide? Chair age unknown but possibly
Edwardian.


I think you need something that has a bit of 'give', like proper
webbing but the Uniroyal stuff is very expensive.

Maybe it was just a tough bit of leather ?.


Generations of bums have created a curved base which is now split. I
have a roll of webbing although nothing fancy.

The wooden tool used for stretching looks easy to make. The problem is
likely to be the lack of horizontal surface for applying the recommended
5 nails/staples. The original has a single row of domed brass pins.


Almost certainly hide of some kind then I would redo with similar.


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On 21/03/2021 16:04, Tim Lamb wrote:
My wheel back dining chair seat has disintegrated (no corpulence
aspersions please). The puzzle is what was the original material.
The appearance is a thin version of hardboard!
*Plenty of chair webbing and instructions on the web but I think
cutting* and re-nailing sheet material looks easier.
*Could it have been Elephant hide? Chair age unknown but possibly
Edwardian.

I think you need something that has a bit of 'give', like proper
webbing but the Uniroyal stuff is very expensive.

Maybe it was just a tough bit of leather ?.

Generations of bums have created a curved base which is now split. I
have a roll of webbing although nothing fancy.
The wooden tool used for stretching looks easy to make. The problem
is likely to be the lack of horizontal surface for applying the
recommended 5 nails/staples. The original has a single row of domed
brass pins.

Almost certainly hide of some kind then I would redo with similar.


Ok. Now find me a source!

Endless hits on American .com sites. Also fibre board was used! Clue
there is the spelling *fiber* and again all sources found are across the
pond.
Antique chair restoration seems to be their new hobby.

We do have other chairs but grubby Workmates are unwelcome.



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On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 19:47:45 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote:

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On 21/03/2021 16:04, Tim Lamb wrote:
My wheel back dining chair seat has disintegrated (no corpulence
aspersions please). The puzzle is what was the original material.
The appearance is a thin version of hardboard!
Plenty of chair webbing and instructions on the web but I think
cutting and re-nailing sheet material looks easier.
Could it have been Elephant hide? Chair age unknown but possibly
Edwardian.


I think you need something that has a bit of 'give', like proper webbing
but the Uniroyal stuff is very expensive.

Maybe it was just a tough bit of leather ?.


Generations of bums have created a curved base which is now split. I
have a roll of webbing although nothing fancy.

The wooden tool used for stretching looks easy to make. The problem is
likely to be the lack of horizontal surface for applying the recommended
5 nails/staples. The original has a single row of domed brass pins.


Just reading some of this - it does sound as if it was originally
leather.. Is there a tannery anywhere near you or an upholsterer? You
may be able to get some furniture quality leather that way which you can
then use the domed pins with to finish it as before.

I suspect that a rigid sheet material may be very uncomfortable and
potentially unsightly but as a 'fix' you could try hardboard covered with
leather. This will have a bit of 'give' in it and will retain the
leather appearance on the top whilst providing additional support.
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On 21/03/2021 19:47, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Andrew
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On 21/03/2021 16:04, Tim Lamb wrote:
My wheel back dining chair seat has disintegrated (no corpulence
aspersions please). The puzzle is what was the original material.
The appearance is a thin version of hardboard!
*Plenty of chair webbing and instructions on the web but I think
cutting* and re-nailing sheet material looks easier.
*Could it have been Elephant hide? Chair age unknown but possibly
Edwardian.

I think you need something that has a bit of 'give', like proper
webbing but the Uniroyal stuff is very expensive.

Maybe it was just a tough bit of leather ?.
*Generations of bums have created a curved base which is now split. I
have a roll of webbing although nothing fancy.
*The wooden tool used for stretching looks easy to make. The problem
is* likely to be the lack of horizontal surface for applying the
recommended* 5 nails/staples. The original has a single row of domed
brass pins.

Almost certainly hide of some kind then I would redo with similar.


Ok. Now find me a source!

Endless hits on American .com sites. Also fibre board was used! Clue
there is the spelling *fiber* and again all sources found are across the
pond.
Antique chair restoration seems to be their new hobby.


Oh I did find a really good place.
let me see if I can find it again

https://www.jwoodleathers.co.uk/prod...tan-shoulders/

that looks a decent thick leather at a discount price


We do have other chairs but grubby Workmates are unwelcome.





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On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 19:47:45 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote:

In message , Andrew
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On 21/03/2021 16:04, Tim Lamb wrote:
My wheel back dining chair seat has disintegrated (no corpulence
aspersions please). The puzzle is what was the original material.
The appearance is a thin version of hardboard!
Plenty of chair webbing and instructions on the web but I think
cutting and re-nailing sheet material looks easier.
Could it have been Elephant hide? Chair age unknown but possibly
Edwardian.

I think you need something that has a bit of 'give', like proper webbing
but the Uniroyal stuff is very expensive.

Maybe it was just a tough bit of leather ?.


Generations of bums have created a curved base which is now split. I
have a roll of webbing although nothing fancy.

The wooden tool used for stretching looks easy to make. The problem is
likely to be the lack of horizontal surface for applying the recommended
5 nails/staples. The original has a single row of domed brass pins.


Just reading some of this - it does sound as if it was originally
leather.. Is there a tannery anywhere near you or an upholsterer? You
may be able to get some furniture quality leather that way which you can
then use the domed pins with to finish it as before.


Not so. I have an offcut beside me. 2.5mm thick, plastic imitation
leather finish and 6 or so laminations of what looks like cartridge
paper.

I suspect that a rigid sheet material may be very uncomfortable and
potentially unsightly but as a 'fix' you could try hardboard covered with
leather. This will have a bit of 'give' in it and will retain the
leather appearance on the top whilst providing additional support.


I am allowed to use a cushion:-)

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On 22/03/2021 09:21, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , The Natural Philosopher
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On 21/03/2021 19:47, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Andrew
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On 21/03/2021 16:04, Tim Lamb wrote:
My wheel back dining chair seat has disintegrated (no corpulence
aspersions please). The puzzle is what was the original material.
The appearance is a thin version of hardboard!
*Plenty of chair webbing and instructions on the web but I think
cutting* and re-nailing sheet material looks easier.
*Could it have been Elephant hide? Chair age unknown but possibly
Edwardian.

I think you need something that has a bit of 'give', like proper
webbing but the Uniroyal stuff is very expensive.

Maybe it was just a tough bit of leather ?.
*Generations of bums have created a curved base which is now split.
I have a roll of webbing although nothing fancy.
*The wooden tool used for stretching looks easy to make. The
problem is* likely to be the lack of horizontal surface for
applying the recommended* 5 nails/staples. The original has a
single row of domed brass pins.

Almost certainly hide of some kind then I would redo with similar.

Ok. Now find me a source!
Endless hits on American .com sites. Also fibre board was used! Clue
there is the spelling *fiber* and again all sources found are across
the pond.
Antique chair restoration seems to be their new hobby.


Oh I did find a really good place.
let me see if I can find it again

https://www.jwoodleathers.co.uk/prod...tan-shoulders/

that looks a decent thick leather at a discount price


Hmm. I suppose at those prices I could double lay if doubtful about
strength.

Thanks


We do have other chairs but grubby Workmates are unwelcome.






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On 22/03/2021 13:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
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On 22/03/2021 09:21, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , The Natural Philosopher
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On 21/03/2021 19:47, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Andrew
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On 21/03/2021 16:04, Tim Lamb wrote:
My wheel back dining chair seat has disintegrated (no corpulence
aspersions please). The puzzle is what was the original material.
The appearance is a thin version of hardboard!
*Plenty of chair webbing and instructions on the web but I think
cutting* and re-nailing sheet material looks easier.
*Could it have been Elephant hide? Chair age unknown but possibly
Edwardian.

I think you need something that has a bit of 'give', like proper
webbing but the Uniroyal stuff is very expensive.

Maybe it was just a tough bit of leather ?.
*Generations of bums have created a curved base which is now split.
I* have a roll of webbing although nothing fancy.
*The wooden tool used for stretching looks easy to make. The
problem* is* likely to be the lack of horizontal surface for
applying the* recommended* 5 nails/staples. The original has a
single row of domed* brass pins.

Almost certainly hide of some kind then I would redo with similar.
*Ok. Now find me a source!
*Endless hits on American .com sites. Also fibre board was used! Clue
there is the spelling *fiber* and again all sources found are across
the* pond.
Antique chair restoration seems to be their new hobby.


Oh I did find a really good place.
let me see if I can find it again

https://www.jwoodleathers.co.uk/prod...tan-shoulders/

that looks a decent thick leather at a discount price


Hmm. I suppose at those prices I could double lay if doubtful about
strength.

Thanks


We do have other chairs but grubby Workmates are unwelcome.






I picked you the cheapest thickest. That's 1/8" leather that is!

Irrespective of what was used originally, and it sounds like it's not a
massively well made piece, that would make a marvellous seat that will
(in time) mould...


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On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 12:47:23 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote:

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On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 19:47:45 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote:

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On 21/03/2021 16:04, Tim Lamb wrote:


My wheel back dining chair seat has disintegrated (no corpulence
aspersions please). The puzzle is what was the original material.
The appearance is a thin version of hardboard!


The wooden tool used for stretching looks easy to make. The problem is
likely to be the lack of horizontal surface for applying the
recommended 5 nails/staples. The original has a single row of domed
brass pins.


Just reading some of this - it does sound as if it was originally
leather.. Is there a tannery anywhere near you or an upholsterer? You
may be able to get some furniture quality leather that way which you can
then use the domed pins with to finish it as before.


Not so. I have an offcut beside me. 2.5mm thick, plastic imitation
leather finish and 6 or so laminations of what looks like cartridge
paper.


OK - so cheap tat then

I still reckon that a piece of hardboard covered with a piece of leather
would do the job. Or, if you wanted to go really cheap see if you can
find a supplier of the type of vinyl that was common in the 1970's to
trim car roofs to make them look as if they were convertibles.

Or how about something like this to trim the hardboard - sounds as if it
could give a similar effect

https://ukfabricsonline.com/upholste...y-leatherette-
fabric


I suspect that a rigid sheet material may be very uncomfortable and
potentially unsightly but as a 'fix' you could try hardboard covered
with leather. This will have a bit of 'give' in it and will retain the
leather appearance on the top whilst providing additional support.


I am allowed to use a cushion:-)


In which case as a (retired) farmer you must have access to that farming
essential known as 'baler band'. You could do a bit of weaving with it
across the seat and top off with the cushion to spread your weight a
little. Sisal would give a very natural straw look or use a dayglo
polypropylene for a contemporary feel to the chair.

PS for the avoidance of doubt none of the last paragraph is meant to be
taken seriously

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