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I found a "subscription" charge for 7.99 marked Amazon Prime.
I have never knowingly signed up. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. Next, you've got a monthly 7.99 charge! I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. -- Mint 20.04, kernel 5.4.0-42-generic, Cinnamon 4.6.7 running on an AMD Phenom II X4 Black edition processor with 8GB of DRAM. |
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On 03/03/2021 18:23, pinnerite wrote:
I found a "subscription" charge for £7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. Next, you've got a monthly £7.99 charge! I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/re...-prime-refund/ "As long as you haven't used any Prime services, you'll automatically get the £79 or £7.99 payment/s refunded. " -- Adrian C |
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On 03/03/2021 18:40, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 03/03/2021 18:23, pinnerite wrote: I found a "subscription" charge for £7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. Next, you've got a monthly £7.99 charge! I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/re...-prime-refund/ "As long as you haven't used any Prime services, you'll automatically get the £79 or £7.99 payment/s refunded. " what about in his 30 day free prime trial ? ... which he never knew about |
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On 03/03/2021 18:23, pinnerite wrote:
I found a "subscription" charge for £7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. Next, you've got a monthly £7.99 charge! I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. Some goods are now subscription on Amazon and often the default tick setting is NOT "one time purchase". Random Example (note the default is a 4 times a year subscription) https://tinyurl.com/47dadzyr Check your Amazon order record for anything that may be consumed on a regular basis - in the above example Vitamin D tablets but I've seen cleaning products and pet treats with the same type of listing. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 18:42:24 +0000, alan_m wrote:
On 03/03/2021 18:23, pinnerite wrote: I found a "subscription" charge for £7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. Next, you've got a monthly £7.99 charge! I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. Some goods are now subscription on Amazon and often the default tick setting is NOT "one time purchase". Random Example (note the default is a 4 times a year subscription) https://tinyurl.com/47dadzyr Check your Amazon order record for anything that may be consumed on a regular basis - in the above example Vitamin D tablets but I've seen cleaning products and pet treats with the same type of listing. I recently got them to have a chat with me, to correct an accidental click on a subscription order, they cancelled it immediately. |
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On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 18:23:48 +0000, pinnerite
wrote: I found a "subscription" charge for 7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. You wouldn't be the first (here) it seems. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. I saw it a few times before meaningly signing up for it and think it could be misled if you weren't alert. Next, you've got a monthly 7.99 charge! Well, if it wasn't wanted, only that first month Shirley (before you cancel it)? I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. I would be interested in the outcome as it will be something to tell the Amazon scammers who tell me my Prime account is about to be renewed. ;-) Cheers, T i m |
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On 03/03/2021 18:49, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 18:23:48 +0000, pinnerite wrote: I found a "subscription" charge for £7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. You wouldn't be the first (here) it seems. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. I saw it a few times before meaningly signing up for it and think it could be misled if you weren't alert. Next, you've got a monthly £7.99 charge! Well, if it wasn't wanted, only that first month Shirley (before you cancel it)? I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. I would be interested in the outcome as it will be something to tell the Amazon scammers who tell me my Prime account is about to be renewed. ;-) I find that a simple "**** off" is adequate. |
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On 03/03/2021 18:49, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 18:23:48 +0000, pinnerite wrote: I found a "subscription" charge for £7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. You wouldn't be the first (here) it seems. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. I saw it a few times before meaningly signing up for it and think it could be misled if you weren't alert. Next, you've got a monthly £7.99 charge! Well, if it wasn't wanted, only that first month Shirley (before you cancel it)? I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. I would be interested in the outcome as it will be something to tell the Amazon scammers who tell me my Prime account is about to be renewed. ;-) Yeah when they first tried that they were using the actual price of Prime renewal... so probably got lots of people happy not to cancel it! (to throw them a curve ball, ask them which Amazon account they are talking about. I tried that, and they gave me my phone number!) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 21:09:35 +0000, John Rumm
wrote: snip I would be interested in the outcome as it will be something to tell the Amazon scammers who tell me my Prime account is about to be renewed. ;-) Yeah when they first tried that they were using the actual price of Prime renewal... so probably got lots of people happy not to cancel it! Yeah, hehe. (to throw them a curve ball, ask them which Amazon account they are talking about. I tried that, and they gave me my phone number!) You have to give them some dues for persistence and imagination. I would imagine Telesales is a bad enough job but when you are doing immoral / illegal stuff (just to pay the rent) it must be pretty demoralising. Mind you, that does sometimes result in dealing with bi-polar people where they constantly flip between being nice to hoping your whole family dies of cancer. Cheers, T i m |
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![]() "T i m" wrote in message ... On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 21:09:35 +0000, John Rumm wrote: snip I would be interested in the outcome as it will be something to tell the Amazon scammers who tell me my Prime account is about to be renewed. ;-) Yeah when they first tried that they were using the actual price of Prime renewal... so probably got lots of people happy not to cancel it! Yeah, hehe. (to throw them a curve ball, ask them which Amazon account they are talking about. I tried that, and they gave me my phone number!) You have to give them some dues for persistence and imagination. I would imagine Telesales is a bad enough job but when you are doing immoral / illegal stuff (just to pay the rent) it must be pretty demoralising. More likely they do it all the time in the rest of their 'life' Mind you, that does sometimes result in dealing with bi-polar people where they constantly flip between being nice to hoping your whole family dies of cancer. |
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On 03/03/2021 21:09, John Rumm wrote:
.... (to throw them a curve ball, ask them which Amazon account they are talking about. I tried that, and they gave me my phone number!) The people who call to tell me there is a problem with my broadband also have problem with the question 'Which one?'. I then explain I have four broadband connections, with three different providers at two different addresses and they usually give up. -- Colin Bignell |
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 10:32:37 +0000, nightjar wrote:
On 03/03/2021 21:09, John Rumm wrote: ... (to throw them a curve ball, ask them which Amazon account they are talking about. I tried that, and they gave me my phone number!) The people who call to tell me there is a problem with my broadband also have problem with the question 'Which one?'. I then explain I have four broadband connections, with three different providers at two different addresses and they usually give up. ;-) After ****ing one about for some time I let on that I don't have 'BT Broadband' (that they were supposed to be calling from) and they insisted that *all* Internet is provided by BT Broadband. ;-) Bless them, they got the basic idea but didn't go as far as independent cable suppliers, like VM (is Hull Telecom (was it) still alive)? Cheers, T i m |
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T i m wrote: On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 10:32:37 +0000, nightjar wrote: On 03/03/2021 21:09, John Rumm wrote: ... (to throw them a curve ball, ask them which Amazon account they are talking about. I tried that, and they gave me my phone number!) The people who call to tell me there is a problem with my broadband also have problem with the question 'Which one?'. I then explain I have four broadband connections, with three different providers at two different addresses and they usually give up. ;-) After ****ing one about for some time I let on that I don't have 'BT Broadband' (that they were supposed to be calling from) and they insisted that *all* Internet is provided by BT Broadband. ;-) Bless them, they got the basic idea but didn't go as far as independent cable suppliers, like VM (is Hull Telecom (was it) still alive)? Hull Telecom became KCom (via Kingston Communications). They provide my service, buT I don't deal with them directly. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On 03/03/2021 18:23, pinnerite wrote:
I found a "subscription" charge for £7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. Next, you've got a monthly £7.99 charge! I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa never knew....ha ha Amazon ae *******s |
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![]() "pinnerite" wrote in message news:20210303182348.ca9093534f36931cc581e2f8@gmail .com... I found a "subscription" charge for 7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. Next, you've got a monthly 7.99 charge! I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. They will in fact reverse that charge and cancel the prime service if you ring them. |
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 07:26:24 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile pest's latest troll**** unread -- Bod addressing abnormal senile quarreller Rot: "Do you practice arguing with yourself in an empty room?" MID: |
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"Rod Speed" wrote in
: "pinnerite" wrote in message news:20210303182348.ca9093534f36931cc581e2f8@gmail .com... I found a "subscription" charge for 7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. Next, you've got a monthly 7.99 charge! I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. They will in fact reverse that charge and cancel the prime service if you ring them. I recently bought something and tried very hard to not agree to Prime - but in my rush to get an order completed I accidentally agreed to Prime. Howver it is very easy to cancel if you go into your accound and "Manage My Account" or similar. I have saved the email acknowldegement. |
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JohnP wrote:
I recently bought something and tried very hard to not agree to Prime - but in my rush to get an order completed I accidentally agreed to Prime. Howver it is very easy to cancel if you go into your accound and "Manage My Account" or similar. I have saved the email acknowldegement. It certainly requires you to keep your wits about you to avoid accidentally selecting Prime. There is a checkbox which says it will remember your chosen delivery mode, but fails to prevent it offering Prime at every opportunity. Every time I place an order, the button to move forward is insignificant, but the Prime one is big and bright. One accidental click and you are straight in, whereas cancelling requires a series of confirmations that you _really_ want to leave, with regular reminders of what you will be missing. It is interesting to compare the number of chances it gives you to change your mind about cancellation, with the lack of same when you accidentally join. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK @ChrisJDixon1 Plant amazing Acers. |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2021 11:20:49 GMT, JohnP wrote:
snip I recently bought something and tried very hard to not agree to Prime - but in my rush to get an order completed I accidentally agreed to Prime. Similarly it's been fairly common that when addressing someone's PC that was running slowly to find it had several AV and other tools installed because the owner hadn't de-selected the offers of 'Free' stuff in the process. Howver it is very easy to cancel if you go into your accound and "Manage My Account" or similar. I have saved the email acknowldegement. Similar with all the extra tools, either downgrading them to the free versions or uninstalling the combo versions (AV + FW) and re-installing only what you want. The only really crafty ones were those where they had a series of tick boxes that used a combination of positive and negative wording to get you to not opt out of stuff but still not really and issue if you read them properly. Cheers, T i m |
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![]() "T i m" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Mar 2021 11:20:49 GMT, JohnP wrote: snip I recently bought something and tried very hard to not agree to Prime - but in my rush to get an order completed I accidentally agreed to Prime. Similarly it's been fairly common that when addressing someone's PC that was running slowly to find it had several AV and other tools installed because the owner hadn't de-selected the offers of 'Free' stuff in the process. Howver it is very easy to cancel if you go into your accound and "Manage My Account" or similar. I have saved the email acknowldegement. Similar with all the extra tools, either downgrading them to the free versions or uninstalling the combo versions (AV + FW) and re-installing only what you want. The only really crafty ones were those where they had a series of tick boxes that used a combination of positive and negative wording to get you to not opt out of stuff but still not really and issue if you read them properly. Some of the versions of AVG would install the full version even if you had downloaded the free one and told it to install that. You could downgrade after installing it to the free one but that had to be done deliberately. Very dubious behaviour imo. |
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 05:58:59 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 86-year-old senile Australian cretin's pathological trolling: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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On 04/03/2021 11:20, JohnP wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote in : "pinnerite" wrote in message news:20210303182348.ca9093534f36931cc581e2f8@gmail .com... I found a "subscription" charge for Ł7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. Next, you've got a monthly Ł7.99 charge! I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. They will in fact reverse that charge and cancel the prime service if you ring them. I recently bought something and tried very hard to not agree to Prime - but in my rush to get an order completed I accidentally agreed to Prime. Howver it is very easy to cancel if you go into your accound and "Manage My Account" or similar. I have saved the email acknowldegement. Having just done my first Amazon order for a long time, I now realise what the hurdles are in avoiding Amazon Prime - could hardly believe the hassle involved ! |
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On 03/03/2021 18:23, pinnerite wrote:
I found a "subscription" charge for £7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. Next, you've got a monthly £7.99 charge! I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. Chances are you ordered something that was only available at the price offered for Prime subscribers, and hence they automatically included a subscription when you placed the order because that was the only way you could complete the order. (other than dropping the item from the basket, and searching for it again and choosing a higher priced version not limited to Prime subscribers) So using "dark pattern" web design, and some underhand tactics certainly, but you can bet they won't have made obvious legal mistakes. (they will refund you though) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Rumm writes On 03/03/2021 18:23, pinnerite wrote: I found a "subscription" charge for 7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. Next, you've got a monthly 7.99 charge! I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. Chances are you ordered something that was only available at the price offered for Prime subscribers, and hence they automatically included a subscription when you placed the order because that was the only way you could complete the order. (other than dropping the item from the basket, and searching for it again and choosing a higher priced version not limited to Prime subscribers) So using "dark pattern" web design, and some underhand tactics certainly, but you can bet they won't have made obvious legal mistakes. (they will refund you though) Some things are actually dearer by Prime. -- bert |
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On 05/03/2021 11:59, bert wrote:
In article , John Rumm writes On 03/03/2021 18:23, pinnerite wrote: I found a "subscription" charge for £7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. *I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. Next, you've got a monthly £7.99 charge! *I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. *I am determined to follow thus up. Chances are you ordered something that was only available at the price offered for Prime subscribers, and hence they automatically included a subscription when you placed the order because that was the only way you could complete the order. (other than dropping the item from the basket, and searching for it again and choosing a higher priced version not limited to Prime subscribers) So using "dark pattern" web design, and some underhand tactics certainly, but you can bet they won't have made obvious legal mistakes. (they will refund you though) Some things are actually dearer by Prime. Either way, they can still setup a deal that is only available to prime members... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 03/03/2021 18:23, pinnerite wrote:
I found a "subscription" charge for £7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. Next, you've got a monthly £7.99 charge! I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. That's very good, I hope you succeed. I've bought a few things from amazon.co.uk over the last year and it gets harder each time to avoid automatically paying for Prime, or indeed an extra fee for faster delivery when free delivery is an alternative. The only way to avoid it is via a link which is deliberately obscure and much less prominent than all the other options. I happen to think that in some cases Amazon provides a useful service so am willing to use it when other options fail, but feel quite strongly that its boss is rich enough without having me subscribe to Prime unwittingly. -- Clive Page |
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Are you sure, on the web site at least I've never had such an experience,
indeed before check out it will ask you if you want to continue. Maybe its like that in the app or something. Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "pinnerite" wrote in message news:20210303182348.ca9093534f36931cc581e2f8@gmail .com... I found a "subscription" charge for 7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. Next, you've got a monthly 7.99 charge! I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. -- Mint 20.04, kernel 5.4.0-42-generic, Cinnamon 4.6.7 running on an AMD Phenom II X4 Black edition processor with 8GB of DRAM. |
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Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote
Are you sure, on the web site at least I've never had such an experience, indeed before check out it will ask you if you want to continue. Maybe its like that in the app or something. Its actually the reverse here. I did want the prime free trial because it was coming from the USA and prime gets you a cheaper shipping rate and faster. Couldnt work out how to sign up for the free prime trial on the app, had to do that on the browser. "pinnerite" wrote in message news:20210303182348.ca9093534f36931cc581e2f8@gmail .com... I found a "subscription" charge for 7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. Next, you've got a monthly 7.99 charge! I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. -- Mint 20.04, kernel 5.4.0-42-generic, Cinnamon 4.6.7 running on an AMD Phenom II X4 Black edition processor with 8GB of DRAM. |
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Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote
Not tried the app. I use it most of the time. The only time you do need to be careful is if you enable single click buying and do it via the Amazon echo device, as although you do need your code, often the prime setting is a little vague. No it isnt with that config. Indeed its almost as vague as the various subscriptions for music unlimited. For the record its 3.99 for one device, any ability to share on other devices, ie have your music playing in other rooms or to get it to pay from another device is 9.99, then it gets confusing as there is a family plan which means you can play more than one track on multiple machines at the same time, plus a high definition stream which costs more still, then of course there are discounts if you sign up to prime. Quite why its so complicated eludes me. Basically to suck you in. After all streaming your music to more than one device is still only you listening, so why the price hike? Basically to suck you in. I guess there is some marketing drone somewhere working it all out on a vast payroll. Yep. "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote Are you sure, on the web site at least I've never had such an experience, indeed before check out it will ask you if you want to continue. Maybe its like that in the app or something. Its actually the reverse here. I did want the prime free trial because it was coming from the USA and prime gets you a cheaper shipping rate and faster. Couldnt work out how to sign up for the free prime trial on the app, had to do that on the browser. "pinnerite" wrote in message news:20210303182348.ca9093534f36931cc581e2f8@gmail .com... I found a "subscription" charge for 7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. Next, you've got a monthly 7.99 charge! I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. I am determined to follow thus up. -- Mint 20.04, kernel 5.4.0-42-generic, Cinnamon 4.6.7 running on an AMD Phenom II X4 Black edition processor with 8GB of DRAM. |
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![]() To end your Amazon Prime membership: 1,Go to your Prime membership. 2.Select Update, Cancel, and more, and follow the on-screen instructions. |
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pinnerite writes I found a "subscription" charge for 7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. "Knowingly" being the important word I think it might be one of those almost-concealed bits of wording that could easily be missed. It was. Next, you've got a monthly 7.99 charge! Complain and you will probably get it back. You can cancel Prime on line. I think this amounts to inertia selling which is illegal under both UK and EU law. Could be, but it's UK law that matters now. I am determined to follow thus up. Please do. They do their best to trick you into signing up. I got caught out once but got an immediate refund when I complained. -- bert |
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pinnerite wrote:
I found a "subscription" charge for £7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think almost everyone I know (no matter how IT savvy) has been 'tricked' into that one, they actually seem very keen on sending me 7 days of prime for 99p offers, which comes in handy to get everything off the wish list, watch a box set and maybe a few years old film, then wait for another few weeks for another offer. |
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Andy Burns wrote:
pinnerite wrote: I found a "subscription" charge for £7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think almost everyone I know (no matter how IT savvy) has been 'tricked' into that one, they actually seem very keen on sending me 7 days of prime for 99p offers, which comes in handy to get everything off the wish list, watch a box set and maybe a few years old film, then wait for another few weeks for another offer. Every few months Amazon offers me a free trial of Prime for a month, I always take it up, set the "remind me three days before it expires" E-Mail flag and cancel it before it costs me anything. You *can* beat Amazon at their own game. -- Chris Green · |
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![]() "Andy Burns" wrote in message ... pinnerite wrote: I found a "subscription" charge for £7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think almost everyone I know (no matter how IT savvy) Not me never fallen for it |
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![]() "tim..." wrote in message ... "Andy Burns" wrote in message ... pinnerite wrote: I found a "subscription" charge for £7.99 marked Amazon Prime. I have never knowingly signed up. I think almost everyone I know (no matter how IT savvy) Not me never fallen for it I have signed up for the free month, repeatedly, mainly for the lower freight charge with stuff from the USA which is better value than what I can buy from anywhere else. |
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On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 06:38:51 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: I have signed up for the free month Nobody talked to you or ask you anything, senile asshole! -- Richard addressing senile Rodent Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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