Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

See this article in the Inde -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-b1805124.html

"Andrew" wrote in message
...
Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

probably because all the people who actually died of flu were diagnosed a
dying of Covid

In article ,
tim... wrote:


"Andrew" wrote in message
...
Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

probably because all the people who actually died of flu were diagnosed
a dying of Covid

The deaths from Covid figures only apply to those who have tested positive.

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On 25/02/2021 17:02, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
tim... wrote:
"Andrew" wrote in message
...

Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

probably because all the people who actually died of flu were diagnosed
a dying of Covid

The deaths from Covid figures only apply to those who have tested positive.

....including those run over by a bus within 28 days of a positive test.

--
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On 25/02/2021 18:06, Max Demian wrote:
On 25/02/2021 17:02, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* tim... wrote:
"Andrew" wrote in message
...

Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

probably because all the people who actually died of flu were diagnosed
a dying of Covid

The deaths from Covid figures only apply to those who have tested
positive.

...including those run over by a bus within 28 days of a positive test.


While some of that will inevitably be true, i.e. they died with covid
rather than necessarily from it, there is also a group of people who
died free from covid but because of it.

This could en up being a very large number when you factor in all those
deaths resulting from the inability (or reluctance) access healthcare,
and preventative treatment and screening, let alone the economic and
mental health effects.


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On 25/02/2021 17:02, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
tim... wrote:


"Andrew" wrote in message
...
Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

probably because all the people who actually died of flu were diagnosed
a dying of Covid

The deaths from Covid figures only apply to those who have tested positive.

I think that is the case now, but not in the early days.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
tim... wrote:


"Andrew" wrote in message
...
Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

probably because all the people who actually died of flu were diagnosed
a dying of Covid

The deaths from Covid figures only apply to those who have tested
positive.

there are reports of that not being the case

On 25/02/2021 19:16, tim... wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Â* tim... wrote:


"Andrew" wrote in message
...
Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

probably because all the people who actually died of flu were diagnosed
a dying of Covid

The deaths from Covid figures only apply to those who have tested
positive.

there are reports of that not being the case

Hence why excess deaths also became a useful indicator for the spread of
Covid.

On 25/02/2021 22:31, Fredxx wrote:

Hence why excess deaths also became a useful indicator for the spread of
Covid.

Surely excess deaths to measure of covid deaths is only meaningful if
the rest of the NHS was working the same way as in previous years? If
there is a much reduced healthcare for other conditions the figure could
be expected to rise accordingly.

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In article ,
tim... wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
tim... wrote:


"Andrew" wrote in message
...
Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

probably because all the people who actually died of flu were diagnosed
a dying of Covid

The deaths from Covid figures only apply to those who have tested
positive.

there are reports of that not being the case

Of course there will be. Care to speculate on the percentage? Enough to
make a meaningful difference to the published figures?




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On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 5:02:50 PM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
tim... wrote:


"Andrew" wrote in message
...
Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

probably because all the people who actually died of flu were diagnosed
a dying of Covid
The deaths from Covid figures only apply to those who have tested positive.
Within the last 28 days, even if you were run over

On 26/02/2021 15:26, Jonathan wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 5:02:50 PM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
tim... wrote:


"Andrew" wrote in message
...
Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

probably because all the people who actually died of flu were diagnosed
a dying of Covid
The deaths from Covid figures only apply to those who have tested positive.
Within the last 28 days, even if you were run over

Bu not from those who died of it and never even got tested...it works
both ways



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On 26/02/2021 15:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/02/2021 15:26, Jonathan wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 5:02:50 PM UTC, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article ,
tim... wrote:


"Andrew" wrote in message
...
Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

probably because all the people who actually died of flu were diagnosed
a dying of Covid
The deaths from Covid figures only apply to those who have tested
positive.

Within the last 28 days, even if you were run over

A death certificate will need to include a medical assessment of the
cause of death. Clear cases of Trauma would not usually be recorded as
covid related even if there were a positive diagnosis.

Bu not from those who died of it and never even got tested...it works
both ways

We keep several different sets of stats in this country (PHE keep one
set, and the ONS another).

Some record people who die within number of days of a positive test - so
those will include some who died "with" covid rather than necessarily
from it. However we also keep stats on those who have died where COVID
is mentioned as a contributory cause on the death certificate.

Excess deaths compared to a baseline is yet another way of making an
assessment.

This expands on it quite well:

https://publichealthmatters.blog.gov...vid-19-deaths/

So basically, its complicated.


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In article ,
Jonathan writes
On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 5:02:50 PM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
tim... wrote:


"Andrew" wrote in message
...
Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

probably because all the people who actually died of flu were diagnosed
a dying of Covid
The deaths from Covid figures only apply to those who have tested positive.
Within the last 28 days, even if you were run over
Well due to lockdowns not that many people being run over - and in a
normal year it's only about 1500 road deaths.
--
bert

Well I guess we are suddenly less likely to spread anything.
Brian

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"Andrew" wrote in message
...
Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

See this article in the Inde -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-b1805124.html

Brian Gaff wrote:

Well I guess we are suddenly less likely to spread anything.

I suppose it shows how much more contagious covid19 is,
if it can infect 1,495,408 cases out of 32,593,452 tests,
while at the same time flu gets 0 out of 685,000 tests

Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote

Well I guess we are suddenly less likely to spread anything.

In fact you buggers have been spreading covid like mad.

"Andrew" wrote in message
...
Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

See this article in the Inde -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-b1805124.html

Andrew wrote

Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing, fear or
inability to get to a GP,

It wouldnt be that given that a few do end up in hospital
and even on a respirator.

or something else ?

See this article in the Inde -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-b1805124.html

On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 04:52:09 +1100, Fred, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

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"Ah, the voice of scum speaks."
MID:

On 25/02/2021 14:33, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:16:47 +0000, Andrew wrote:

Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

See this article in the Inde -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...d-england-phe-
latest-b1805124.html

Probably a combination. I wonder how the Faragist anti-vaxxer-anti-
maskers

I've searched for anything that says Farage in an anti-vaxxer and
failed. Perhaps your google-fu will be better?

Yes I fully accept he is anti-lockdown, though less certain about masks.

will respond to this news, when a grown up has read it to them ?

The most persuasive argument is that the chance for people to spread flu
by dragging their sickbed into their workplace has gone. Proof that a
slightly more generous approach to sick pay could have a dramatic
beneficial effect on public health generally.

For small companies at least, sick pay is paid out of companies profits.
I'm intrigued what this generous offer might be.

In article ,
Fredxx wrote:
Yes I fully accept he is anti-lockdown, though less certain about masks.

Of course he is anti-lockdown. The only people who actually believe him
are the ****ed in pubs. Everyone else knows him for the charlatan he is.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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"Fredxx" wrote in message
...
On 25/02/2021 14:33, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:16:47 +0000, Andrew wrote:

Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

See this article in the Inde -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...d-england-phe-
latest-b1805124.html

Probably a combination. I wonder how the Faragist anti-vaxxer-anti-
maskers

I've searched for anything that says Farage in an anti-vaxxer and failed.
Perhaps your google-fu will be better?

Yes I fully accept he is anti-lockdown, though less certain about masks.

will respond to this news, when a grown up has read it to them ?

The most persuasive argument is that the chance for people to spread flu
by dragging their sickbed into their workplace has gone. Proof that a
slightly more generous approach to sick pay could have a dramatic
beneficial effect on public health generally.

For small companies at least, sick pay is paid out of companies profits.

All pay is paid out of profits for all operations that are making a profit.

I'm intrigued what this generous offer might be.

Presumably letting you go off sick whenever you have any infectious illness
at all.

On 25/02/2021 16:58, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:57:28 +0000, Fredxx wrote:

On 25/02/2021 14:33, Jethro_uk wrote:
[quoted text muted]

I've searched for anything that says Farage in an anti-vaxxer and
failed.
Perhaps your google-fu will be better?

Where did I say he was ?

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...ast-likely-to-
get-covid-vaccine-among-voters-222265/

https://tinyurl.com/yccrgxzv

It was implied by, "Faragist anti-vaxxer-anti-maskers".

I you have said "Mark Harper anti-vaxxer-anti-maskers" it would have
been more appropriate since Mr Harper was a remainer. :-)

Yes I fully accept he is anti-lockdown, though less certain about masks.

[quoted text muted]

For small companies at least, sick pay is paid out of companies profits.
I'm intrigued what this generous offer might be.

Well in a sane world, if you can avoid spreading flu - with the attendant
expense to society up to and including premature death - by expending
less on sick pay through the extra taxes you pick up, who wouldn't you ?

Why do you target someone else to pay taxes. Is there any reason why you
don't volunteer to pay more tax?

It's a common socialist ploy that it's everyone else who should pay
taxes. Perhaps stick NI on pensions and dividend to create a level
playing field?

On 25/02/2021 19:00, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 18:06:27 +0000, Fredxx wrote:

Why do you target someone else to pay taxes. Is there any reason why you
don't volunteer to pay more tax?

How do you know I don't, pray tell ?

If you do volunteer then you're unique. :-)

I well suspect I pay more tax that I need to but that's out of laziness,
and where the cost of paying someone to go over my accounts is greater
than the potential saving.

On 25/02/2021 22:26, Fredxx wrote:
On 25/02/2021 19:00, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 18:06:27 +0000, Fredxx wrote:

Why do you target someone else to pay taxes. Is there any reason why you
don't volunteer to pay more tax?

How do you know I don't, pray tell ?

If you do volunteer then you're unique. :-)

I well suspect I pay more tax that I need to but that's out of laziness,
and where the cost of paying someone to go over my accounts is greater
than the potential saving.

Similarly here, though not so much on a cost basis, as an effort basis.
The potential saving is there, but is just not worth the extra effort.
Much better to keep life simple.

On 25/02/2021 23:09, Steve Walker wrote:
On 25/02/2021 22:26, Fredxx wrote:
On 25/02/2021 19:00, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 18:06:27 +0000, Fredxx wrote:

Why do you target someone else to pay taxes. Is there any reason why
you
don't volunteer to pay more tax?

How do you know I don't, pray tell ?

If you do volunteer then you're unique. :-)

I well suspect I pay more tax that I need to but that's out of
laziness, and where the cost of paying someone to go over my accounts
is greater than the potential saving.

Similarly here, though not so much on a cost basis, as an effort basis.
The potential saving is there, but is just not worth the extra effort.
Much better to keep life simple.

It's also about sleeping at night without fear from an HMRC
investigation. Over the years I've had two. Thankfully both ended well.

On 25/02/2021 14:33, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:16:47 +0000, Andrew wrote:

Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

See this article in the Inde -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...d-england-phe-
latest-b1805124.html

Probably a combination. I wonder how the Faragist anti-vaxxer-anti-
maskers will respond to this news, when a grown up has read it to them ?

Why would being anti-vax or anti mask have anything to do with Nigel Farage

The most persuasive argument is that the chance for people to spread flu
by dragging their sickbed into their workplace has gone. Proof that a
slightly more generous approach to sick pay could have a dramatic
beneficial effect on public health generally. Not that any amount of
proof can challenge the dogma that you must work till you die.



--
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On 25/02/2021 16:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 25/02/2021 14:33, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:16:47 +0000, Andrew wrote:

Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

See this article in the Inde -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...d-england-phe-
latest-b1805124.html

Probably a combination. I wonder how the Faragist anti-vaxxer-anti-
maskers will respond to this news, when a grown up has read it to them ?

Why would being anti-vax or anti mask have anything to do with Nigel Farage

I think Jethro is confusing an anti-lockdown policy with anti-vaxxer and
anti-mask wearers.

I have just signed the petition requiring only those vaccinated to be
allowed in shops and pubs when lockdown ends, so I'm wondering what
group Jethro is trying to abuse with Farage's name?

"Fredxx" wrote in message
...
On 25/02/2021 16:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 25/02/2021 14:33, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:16:47 +0000, Andrew wrote:

Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

See this article in the Inde -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...d-england-phe-
latest-b1805124.html

Probably a combination. I wonder how the Faragist anti-vaxxer-anti-
maskers will respond to this news, when a grown up has read it to them ?

Why would being anti-vax or anti mask have anything to do with Nigel
Farage

I think Jethro is confusing an anti-lockdown policy with anti-vaxxer and
anti-mask wearers.

I have just signed the petition requiring only those vaccinated to be
allowed in shops and pubs when lockdown ends,

That would be hard on those who cant be vaccinated
for medical reasons and there are some of those.

so I'm wondering what group Jethro is trying to abuse with Farage's name?

On 25/02/2021 18:03, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxx" wrote in message
...
On 25/02/2021 16:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 25/02/2021 14:33, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:16:47 +0000, Andrew wrote:

Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

See this article in the Inde -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...d-england-phe-
latest-b1805124.html

Probably a combination. I wonder how the Faragist anti-vaxxer-anti-
maskers will respond to this news, when a grown up has read it to
them ?

Why would being anti-vax or anti mask have anything to do with Nigel
Farage

I think Jethro is confusing an anti-lockdown policy with anti-vaxxer
and anti-mask wearers.

I have just signed the petition requiring only those vaccinated to be
allowed in shops and pubs when lockdown ends,

That would be hard on those who cant be vaccinated
for medical reasons and there are some of those.

Very few, and I would expect with medical issues stopping them visiting
pubs and shops.

As with any legislation there are always justified exceptions.

so I'm wondering what group Jethro is trying to abuse with Farage's name?

On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 18:24:50 +0000, Fredxx, the notorious, troll-feeding,
senile smartass, blathered again:


Very few, and I would expect with medical issues stopping them visiting
pubs and shops.

As with any legislation there are always justified exceptions.

I would expect that a senile idiot like you who regularly gets insulted and
abused by the abnormal Ozzie troll would STOP feeding him time and again.
Instead, to his enjoyment, you KEEP sucking him off on every occasion! BG

"Fredxx" wrote in message
...
On 25/02/2021 18:03, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxx" wrote in message
...
On 25/02/2021 16:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 25/02/2021 14:33, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:16:47 +0000, Andrew wrote:

Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

See this article in the Inde -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...d-england-phe-
latest-b1805124.html

Probably a combination. I wonder how the Faragist anti-vaxxer-anti-
maskers will respond to this news, when a grown up has read it to them
?

Why would being anti-vax or anti mask have anything to do with Nigel
Farage

I think Jethro is confusing an anti-lockdown policy with anti-vaxxer and
anti-mask wearers.

I have just signed the petition requiring only those vaccinated to be
allowed in shops and pubs when lockdown ends,

That would be hard on those who cant be vaccinated
for medical reasons and there are some of those.

Very few,

Not that few actually.

and I would expect with medical issues stopping them visiting pubs and
shops.

Nope.

As with any legislation there are always justified exceptions.

The problem isnt with the legislation, its how you
deal with it at the supermarket or shop or pub door.

so I'm wondering what group Jethro is trying to abuse with Farage's
name?

In article , Fredxx
writes
On 25/02/2021 18:03, Rod Speed wrote:
"Fredxx" wrote in message
...
On 25/02/2021 16:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 25/02/2021 14:33, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:16:47 +0000, Andrew wrote:

Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

See this article in the Inde -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...d-england-phe-
latest-b1805124.html

Probably a combination. I wonder how the Faragist anti-vaxxer-anti-
maskers will respond to this news, when a grown up has read it to
them ?

Why would being anti-vax or anti mask have anything to do with
Nigel Farage

I think Jethro is confusing an anti-lockdown policy with anti-vaxxer
and anti-mask wearers.

I have just signed the petition requiring only those vaccinated to
be allowed in shops and pubs when lockdown ends,
That would be hard on those who cant be vaccinated
for medical reasons and there are some of those.

Very few, and I would expect with medical issues stopping them visiting
pubs and shops.

As with any legislation there are always justified exceptions.

so I'm wondering what group Jethro is trying to abuse with Farage's
name?


Totally illogical. If you have been vaccinated what have you to fear?
--
bert

On 25/02/2021 18:24, Fredxx wrote:
On 25/02/2021 18:03, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxx" wrote in message
...
On 25/02/2021 16:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 25/02/2021 14:33, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:16:47 +0000, Andrew wrote:

Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

See this article in the Inde -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...d-england-phe-

latest-b1805124.html

Probably a combination. I wonder how the Faragist anti-vaxxer-anti-
maskers will respond to this news, when a grown up has read it to
them ?

Why would being anti-vax or anti mask have anything to do with Nigel
Farage

I think Jethro is confusing an anti-lockdown policy with anti-vaxxer
and anti-mask wearers.

I have just signed the petition requiring only those vaccinated to be
allowed in shops and pubs when lockdown ends,

That would be hard on those who cant be vaccinated
for medical reasons and there are some of those.

Very few, and I would expect with medical issues stopping them visiting
pubs and shops.

As with any legislation there are always justified exceptions.

The simple answer would be to accept that small risk to others and issue
exemption certificates to those unable to have the vaccines - properly
policed, unlike the mask exemption that pretty well anyone can self-declare.

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"Fredxx" wrote in message
...
On 25/02/2021 16:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 25/02/2021 14:33, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:16:47 +0000, Andrew wrote:

Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

See this article in the Inde -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...d-england-phe-
latest-b1805124.html

Probably a combination. I wonder how the Faragist anti-vaxxer-anti-
maskers will respond to this news, when a grown up has read it to them
?

Why would being anti-vax or anti mask have anything to do with Nigel
Farage

I think Jethro is confusing an anti-lockdown policy with anti-vaxxer and
anti-mask wearers.

I have just signed the petition requiring only those vaccinated to be
allowed in shops and pubs when lockdown ends,

That would be hard on those who cant be vaccinated
for medical reasons and there are some of those.#

for once Rod is 100% right here

a vaccine passport has to have a system that allows for the people who
cannot be vaccinated (or don't need to be because they have recently been
infected with the disease)

On 26/02/2021 09:08, tim... wrote:
a vaccine passport has to have a system that allows for the people who
cannot be vaccinated (or don't need to be because they have recently
been infected with the disease)


Right.

The same as we issue driving licenses to people who are medically unfit
to take a test?



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conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere"

In article , tim...
writes


"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"Fredxx" wrote in message
...
On 25/02/2021 16:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 25/02/2021 14:33, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:16:47 +0000, Andrew wrote:

Is this because of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing,
fear or inability to get to a GP, or something else ?

See this article in the Inde -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...d-england-phe-
latest-b1805124.html

Probably a combination. I wonder how the Faragist anti-vaxxer-anti-
maskers will respond to this news, when a grown up has read it to
them ?

Why would being anti-vax or anti mask have anything to do with
Nigel Farage

I think Jethro is confusing an anti-lockdown policy with anti-vaxxer
and anti-mask wearers.

I have just signed the petition requiring only those vaccinated to
be allowed in shops and pubs when lockdown ends,

That would be hard on those who cant be vaccinated
for medical reasons and there are some of those.#

for once Rod is 100% right here

a vaccine passport has to have a system that allows for the people who
cannot be vaccinated (or don't need to be because they have recently
been infected with the disease)




So there's no point in the passport in the first place. The virus is no
respecter of reason for no vaccine.
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bert

On 25/02/2021 14:33, Jethro_uk wrote:

The most persuasive argument is that the chance for people to spread flu
by dragging their sickbed into their workplace has gone. Proof that a
slightly more generous approach to sick pay could have a dramatic
beneficial effect on public health generally. Not that any amount of
proof can challenge the dogma that you must work till you die.


I worked for a company that offered 6 months full pay for sickness and
that didn't stop the spread colds and flu around the office/factory -
possibly because it is already passed on before full symptoms appear.

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alan_m wrote
Jethro_uk wrote

The most persuasive argument is that the chance for people to spread flu
by dragging their sickbed into their workplace has gone. Proof that a
slightly more generous approach to sick pay could have a dramatic
beneficial effect on public health generally. Not that any amount of
proof can challenge the dogma that you must work till you die.

I worked for a company that offered 6 months full pay for sickness and
that didn't stop the spread colds and flu around the office/factory -

What matters is whether they discouraged people from calling
in sick if they had a cold or flu and plenty did just that.

possibly because it is already passed on before full symptoms appear.

Thats what I was told by the GP when I tried to get a medical
certificate after I had chosen to stay home and call in sick. Its
not really much of an argument tho because even tho you may
well have infected people before you were aware that you were
infected, it still makes sense to not infect any more once its clear
that you are infected.

And covid is very unusual in that you can infect others before
you have any symptoms and some never have any symptoms.
That's one area where its very different to SARS and why is
much more of a medical problem than SARS was.

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