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Default UPVC window with misted up glazing panels & worn hinge

I have a bathroom UPVC window that has a worn bottom hinge and two
misted up DG glazing units.

How do I measure up the glazing units so that I can get replacement
glazing units?

How do I get the beading out of the frame in order to swap the glazing
units over?

How do I measure the hinges so that I can order the correct ones? I am
happy to replace the top hinge as well so its a matching pair.
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On 15/02/2021 13:39, S wrote:
I have a bathroom UPVC window that has a worn bottom hinge and two
misted up DG glazing units.

How do I measure up the glazing units so that I can get replacement
glazing units?

How do I get the beading out of the frame in order to swap the glazing
units over?

How do I measure the hinges so that I can order the correct ones? I am
happy to replace the top hinge as well so its a matching pair.


Since bathroom windows are obscured anyway, why be concerned
about some moisture.

You might find it easier to get a local window company to
replace the whole unit.
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On 15/02/2021 13:47, Andrew wrote:
On 15/02/2021 13:39, S wrote:
I have a bathroom UPVC window that has a worn bottom hinge and two
misted up DG glazing units.

How do I measure up the glazing units so that I can get replacement
glazing units?

How do I get the beading out of the frame in order to swap the glazing
units over?

How do I measure the hinges so that I can order the correct ones? I am
happy to replace the top hinge as well so its a matching pair.


Since bathroom windows are obscured anyway, why be concerned
about some moisture.


Because you can actually see the humidity within the glazing unit....
plus these are supposedly sealed and argon filled.

You might find it easier to get a local window company to
replace the whole unit.


But which is more cost effectiive?

Replace *whole* window or place hinges and 2 DG glazing unit?

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On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 14:04:27 +0000, S wrote:

On 15/02/2021 13:47, Andrew wrote:
On 15/02/2021 13:39, S wrote:
I have a bathroom UPVC window that has a worn bottom hinge and two
misted up DG glazing units.

How do I measure up the glazing units so that I can get replacement
glazing units?

How do I get the beading out of the frame in order to swap the glazing
units over?

How do I measure the hinges so that I can order the correct ones? I am
happy to replace the top hinge as well so its a matching pair.


Since bathroom windows are obscured anyway, why be concerned about some
moisture.


Because you can actually see the humidity within the glazing unit....
plus these are supposedly sealed and argon filled.

You might find it easier to get a local window company to replace the
whole unit.


But which is more cost effectiive?

Replace *whole* window or place hinges and 2 DG glazing unit?


There are companies which specialise in this sort of repair.

I know that this is a DIY group but worth asking. :-)


Cheers



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On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 13:39:47 +0000, S wrote:

I have a bathroom UPVC window that has a worn bottom hinge and two
misted up DG glazing units.

How do I measure up the glazing units so that I can get replacement
glazing units?

How do I get the beading out of the frame in order to swap the glazing
units over?

How do I measure the hinges so that I can order the correct ones? I am
happy to replace the top hinge as well so its a matching pair.


In my experience, allbeit about 20 years ago, d glazed units are quite
cheap. Ask a local supplier, not a chain installer. They'll tell you
how to measure if you can't finfd the information using Google.
For the hinges Google for double glazing spares. You'll probably find
someone offer matching replacements.
Then you'll be able to make an assessment about the best way to go.


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On 15/02/2021 13:39, S wrote:
I have a bathroom UPVC window that has a worn bottom hinge and two
misted up DG glazing units.

How do I measure up the glazing units so that I can get replacement
glazing units?


Take the glazing bars out so you can see what size the units are.

How do I get the beading out of the frame in order to swap the glazing
units over?


Normally you can prise out one of the long edges with a wide scraper or
similar - they need to bend to get them in and out usually. (easier to
get back in if you warm them up first)

How do I measure the hinges so that I can order the correct ones? I am
happy to replace the top hinge as well so its a matching pair.


Probably easiest to get a good set of dimensions for the new hinge on
the suppliers web site and then compare against what you have.

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On 15/02/2021 13:39, S wrote:
I have a bathroom UPVC window that has a worn bottom hinge and two
misted up DG glazing units.

How do I measure up the glazing units so that I can get replacement
glazing units?

How do I get the beading out of the frame in order to swap the glazing
units over?


You need to use a thin blade to lift the centre of the beading away from
the frame.

Search on youtube for examples.

Once the beading is removed you can measure the existing windows.

I would be wary about just changing the glass without being sure that
the replacements wont fail for the same reason.

It is possible to buy made to measure UPVC frames with the glass.


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S wrote:

I have a bathroom UPVC window that has a worn bottom hinge and two
misted up DG glazing units.

How do I measure up the glazing units so that I can get replacement
glazing units?


Is it internally or externally beaded?

Mark the bars for top/left/bottom/right and make a note which ones go
"on top" of which others, so you put them back correctly, use a blunt,
wide filling knife, to prise them out, but be careful not to damage them

Measure the actual sealed units, order new ones from local manufacturer,
also take note of where the packers are between the frame and the sealed
unit.

Get a non-marking rubber hammer to knock them back in with, after.

How do I get the beading out of the frame in order to swap the glazing
units over?

How do I measure the hinges so that I can order the correct ones? I am
happy to replace the top hinge as well so its a matching pair.


Look for manufacturer/model name on existing hinges, see wha you can
find on the glazing repair websites, if the screws are loose you can get
'uPvC repair screws' with a more aggressive pitch.


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On 15/02/2021 15:57, David wrote:
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 14:04:27 +0000, S wrote:

On 15/02/2021 13:47, Andrew wrote:
On 15/02/2021 13:39, S wrote:
I have a bathroom UPVC window that has a worn bottom hinge and two
misted up DG glazing units.

How do I measure up the glazing units so that I can get replacement
glazing units?

How do I get the beading out of the frame in order to swap the glazing
units over?

How do I measure the hinges so that I can order the correct ones? I am
happy to replace the top hinge as well so its a matching pair.

Since bathroom windows are obscured anyway, why be concerned about some
moisture.


Because you can actually see the humidity within the glazing unit....
plus these are supposedly sealed and argon filled.

You might find it easier to get a local window company to replace the
whole unit.


But which is more cost effectiive?

Replace *whole* window or place hinges and 2 DG glazing unit?


There are companies which specialise in this sort of repair.

I know that this is a DIY group but worth asking. :-)


Cheers



Dave R

New sealed units are easy to obtain and fit. The glazing bars
will normally be internal these days. use a flat-ended putty knife
or similar to push firmly into the fine gap between glazing bar and
frame, midway along a long side and twist it to pop the glazing bar
out of its recess. You can then remove it, and do the same with the others.

Replacement is the reverse but there is a technique to get the bars
back in which is difficutlt to describe here. Try YouTube. Remember
to put the packers and support bridges back in, that support the
weight of the glass inside the frame.

Hinges, should not 'wear'. Are they reflex hinges or 'means of
escape'? . Post a photo. Getting exact match replacements
and fitting them is more tricky.

I bought a new D/G window for my bathroom in 2014 to replace
the original timber Boulton and Paul top-hinged unit (4 foot wide
by 3 foot 6 inches deep) and it cost me £152+vat.

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