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Ive got a flat thats the ground floor of a large Victorian house with very thick walls and Im lucky enough to get my Internet connection from someone on the top floor I have a Cat5 cable plugged into their router and that comes down to my flat. Its a decent fibre to the cabinet Internet connection.
In my flat the cable goes into a Netgear powered switch with 8 ports. One port then connects to a TP Link RE350 which gives me wi-fi around the flat. Its centrally located under the stairs but because of the thick walls the speed I get reduces from about 70 near the device to more like 10 in the other rooms. Im thinking of replacing the TP Link device with a cheap mesh network setup such as the Netgear Orbi RBK13 with 3 units. Will this improve my wi-fi speed around the flat and Id quite like it to extend into the garden too?! |
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If you have an 8 port switch already could you run a few cables from that to strategic places and then put normal WiFi routers there? You tend to be able to pick these up cheaply on eBay.
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... Ive got a flat thats the ground floor of a large Victorian house with very thick walls and Im lucky enough to get my Internet connection from someone on the top floor I have a Cat5 cable plugged into their router and that comes down to my flat. Its a decent fibre to the cabinet Internet connection. In my flat the cable goes into a Netgear powered switch with 8 ports. One port then connects to a TP Link RE350 which gives me wi-fi around the flat. Its centrally located under the stairs but because of the thick walls the speed I get reduces from about 70 near the device to more like 10 in the other rooms. Im thinking of replacing the TP Link device with a cheap mesh network setup such as the Netgear Orbi RBK13 with 3 units. Will this improve my wi-fi speed around the flat and Id quite like it to extend into the garden too?! When you say "about 70", is that the link speed in Mbps as reported by a computer (eg Task Manager of Windows)? Or is it the throughput speed as reported by Ookla Speedtest or something similar; if it's the latter, what is the comparable speed for a computer connected by Ethernet? Maybe best to concentrate on reported link speed while you are assessing the effect of wifi signal strength. How does the speed compare in a room that is immediately adjacent (horizontally or vertically) to the TP Link RE350 wifi access point? Are you connecting to a 2.4 GHz network or a 5 GHz one? Maybe best to rename the SSID of the 5 GHz (temporarily) in the TP Link RE350 so you can distinguish. 2.4 has longer range (less attenuation per unit distance) than 5 GHz. We have Linksys Velop mesh devices and they mostly work very well. We're in an L-shaped house with the router at one end of the L. Initially communication was in a daisy chain: router to node1 to node2 to node 3 etc inwards along one leg of the L and then outwards along the other one. However, after repositioning the router, all but one of the nodes communicates directly with the router. The problem with mesh devices (well, certainly our Velop) is that they use short-range 5 GHz comms to communicate between one node and another, and then use both 2.4 and 5 for communicating with computers. Unfortunately we've a few older devices that can *only* speak 2.4, so that network needs to be turned on. And with the devices just at the limit of good comms for 5 GHz back to the primary (router) node, they are so close together that their 2.4 GHz networks overlap - and with six nodes, even with auto-channel-selection turned on, there are clashes, so sometimes a node will go offline while it tries to find a better 2.4 GHz channel to use. I really need to get a new laptop and some new security cameras that can talk 5 GHz, and then I can turn off 2.4 and the problem will go away. It's a shame that with Velop you can't turn on or off 2.4 for each individual node - ie turned off at most nodes but turned on at the node which the cameras and laptop will normally be connected to. Positioning of nodes for best reception may take a while, both to find any obstructions - hot water cylinders, big metal fireplaces etc - and so get the nodes so they are as far apart as 5 GHz will allow but far enough that they don't stomp on each other's 2.4 GHz. For reception in the garden, you will probably need 2.4 GHz, depending on the size of the garden. The node for covering the garden is best placed as close to the window as possible. Good luck. |
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Thanks for all that
The speed I quoted is from the Speedtest app on my phone. Next to the TP link wifi device I get 30mbps, in the bedroom I get about 1mbps, on the PC which is connected via ethernet I get 70mbps. Plan now is to get D-Link Covr-2202 |
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On 06/06/2020 11:53, Murmansk wrote:
Ive got a flat thats the ground floor of a large Victorian house with very thick walls and Im lucky enough to get my Internet connection from someone on the top floor I have a Cat5 cable plugged into their router and that comes down to my flat. Its a decent fibre to the cabinet Internet connection. In my flat the cable goes into a Netgear powered switch with 8 ports. One port then connects to a TP Link RE350 which gives me wi-fi around the flat. Its centrally located under the stairs but because of the thick walls the speed I get reduces from about 70 near the device to more like 10 in the other rooms. Im thinking of replacing the TP Link device with a cheap mesh network setup such as the Netgear Orbi RBK13 with 3 units. Will this improve my wi-fi speed around the flat and Id quite like it to extend into the garden too?! I've just installed some BT Mesh boxes. In simple terms, you plug the first one into the router via a cable, set it up (easy using their app), then add the others. The app helps you check if your planned location is good enough (assuming you've not got network cable point there). Then you use the app again. You repeat until you've installed all of you units. The question is, how many units do you need for your property. There is some guidance on the BT site and a tool to select which 'level' of unit (BT do three). I'm more than impressed with the performance. My wired network was always good but the Wifi varied due to a combination of house layout/sized and construction. Now it is excellent everywhere and Wifi is (all but) as fast as the wired network (ie the limiting factor is the ISP speed). -- https://www.antislavery.org/slavery-...forced-labour/ |
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That tends to confirm what I've been reading thanks - I feel confident it's going to improve things
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Murmansk wrote:
That tends to confirm what I've been reading thanks - I feel confident it's going to improve things +1 for BT mesh system. Beats having multiple routers/access points hands down as moving between nodes is seamless. No having to check which hotspot youre attached to and manually switching. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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On 06/06/2020 22:56, Tim+ wrote:
Murmansk wrote: That tends to confirm what I've been reading thanks - I feel confident it's going to improve things +1 for BT mesh system. Beats having multiple routers/access points hands down as moving between nodes is seamless. No having to check which hotspot youre attached to and manually switching. Tim Its a bit like renewable energy. You think 'great' but it isn't, and then you add even more technology....and wish you had simply stuck to CAT5 in the first place -- Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles * M. Claparede, Professeur de Théologie * Genève, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de M. de Voltaire |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/06/2020 22:56, Tim+ wrote: Murmansk wrote: That tends to confirm what I've been reading thanks - I feel confident it's going to improve things +1 for BT mesh system. Beats having multiple routers/access points hands down as moving between nodes is seamless. No having to check which hotspot youre attached to and manually switching. Tim Its a bit like renewable energy. You think 'great' but it isn't, and then you add even more technology....and wish you had simply stuck to CAT5 in the first place And how will that improve Wi-Fi access? The BT mesh system is very easy to set up and ours has been utterly stable since installation about 18 months ago. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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... The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 06/06/2020 22:56, Tim+ wrote: Murmansk wrote: That tends to confirm what I've been reading thanks - I feel confident it's going to improve things +1 for BT mesh system. Beats having multiple routers/access points hands down as moving between nodes is seamless. No having to check which hotspot youre attached to and manually switching. Tim Its a bit like renewable energy. You think 'great' but it isn't, and then you add even more technology....and wish you had simply stuck to CAT5 in the first place And how will that improve Wi-Fi access? The BT mesh system is very easy to set up and ours has been utterly stable since installation about 18 months ago. The ideal mesh network (as far I can see) is one that has multiple nodes that work together to present a single seamless network, but... communicates from one node to another by Cat 5 rather than wifi. It is the node-to-node comms which has caused most problems with our mesh network. |
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