In article ,
polygonum_on_google wrote:
Anyone can make a mistake. (Even me!) Admitting, accepting, apologising.
They are what draw the poison.

And those in a similar sort of position who've done so have all resigned.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
polygonum_on_google wrote:
Anyone can make a mistake. (Even me!) Admitting, accepting, apologising.
They are what draw the poison.

And those in a similar sort of position who've done so have all resigned.

No one else did it when both were infected with the virus
and had kids who had to be looked after by someone with
the only suitable relos that far away.

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On Wed, 27 May 2020 03:33:22 +1000, Jake56, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

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On 26/05/2020 20:55, Tim Streater wrote:
With any luck, SD will last beyond the end of this, and fewer people will be
infected with other things like flu. Then folk might start to understand that
this country is OVERCROWDED and that something needs to be done about it.

Not just this country, the whole planet.

Only the Chinese have done something about it (the one child policy, not
COVID!) and they were slated for it.

Andy

In article , Tim Streater
wrote:
On 26 May 2020 at 18:33:22 BST, "Jake56" wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
polygonum_on_google wrote:
Anyone can make a mistake. (Even me!) Admitting, accepting,
apologising. They are what draw the poison.

And those in a similar sort of position who've done so have all
resigned.

No one else did it when both were infected with the virus and had kids
who had to be looked after by someone with the only suitable relos that
far away.

Personally I don't think any of them should have resigned. Of the regs
controlling all this, the social distancing and the general stay-at-home
rule are the only important ones. For the rest, there should have just
been a general exception for buying food, and urgent situations. What is
an urgent situation? You decide. After that, all you need is spot checks
by the fuzz. Trying to micromanage what is or is not an urgent situation
is a fool's errand.

It wasn't just the "general stay at home" requirement. It was "If you, or
someone in your household exhibits CV symptoms - you MUST stay at home
until 14 days after the symptoms have gone." He drove to Durham showing
the symptoms, probably infected his family there and the poor people at the
petrol station where he filled up.

--
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"Tim Streater" wrote in message
...
On 26 May 2020 at 18:33:22 BST, "Jake56" wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
polygonum_on_google wrote:
Anyone can make a mistake. (Even me!) Admitting, accepting,
apologising.
They are what draw the poison.

And those in a similar sort of position who've done so have all
resigned.

No one else did it when both were infected with the virus
and had kids who had to be looked after by someone with
the only suitable relos that far away.

Personally I don't think any of them should have resigned.

I think ministers who deliberately flouted the govt regs on
going on holiday should.

Of the regs
controlling all this, the social distancing and the general stay-at-home
rule
are the only important ones. For the rest, there should have just been a
general exception for buying food, and urgent situations. What is an
urgent
situation? You decide.

No, it should really be an urgent situation.

One of the stupid yanks has proclaimed that for her
ancient mother, a weekly visit to the hair dresser is
absolutely essential, just because she has always
done that. That is completely silly.

After that, all you need is spot checks by the fuzz.
Trying to micromanage what is or is not an urgent situation is a fool's
errand.

Yes, but flagrantly flouting the govt regs isnt.

With any luck, SD will last beyond the end of this, and fewer people will
be
infected with other things like flu.

Thats already happened.

Then folk might start to understand that
this country is OVERCROWDED and that something needs to be done about it.

Something has already been done about it. Not one modern
first world country is even self replacing now if you take out
immigration and something has just been done about immigration
by leaving the EU.

"Vir Campestris" wrote in message
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On 26/05/2020 20:55, Tim Streater wrote:
With any luck, SD will last beyond the end of this, and fewer people will
be
infected with other things like flu. Then folk might start to understand
that
this country is OVERCROWDED and that something needs to be done about it.

Not just this country, the whole planet.

Only the Chinese have done something about it (the one child policy, not
COVID!) and they were slated for it.

In fact birth rates have dropped EVERYWHERE
except when its already right down in the noise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...#1950_and_2015

"charles" wrote in message
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In article , Tim Streater
wrote:
On 26 May 2020 at 18:33:22 BST, "Jake56" wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
polygonum_on_google wrote:
Anyone can make a mistake. (Even me!) Admitting, accepting,
apologising. They are what draw the poison.

And those in a similar sort of position who've done so have all
resigned.

No one else did it when both were infected with the virus and had kids
who had to be looked after by someone with the only suitable relos that
far away.

Personally I don't think any of them should have resigned. Of the regs
controlling all this, the social distancing and the general stay-at-home
rule are the only important ones. For the rest, there should have just
been a general exception for buying food, and urgent situations. What is
an urgent situation? You decide. After that, all you need is spot checks
by the fuzz. Trying to micromanage what is or is not an urgent situation
is a fool's errand.

It wasn't just the "general stay at home" requirement. It was "If you, or
someone in your household exhibits CV symptoms - you MUST stay at home
until 14 days after the symptoms have gone." He drove to Durham showing
the symptoms, probably infected his family there

Much more likely they were already infected by then.

and the poor people at the petrol station where he filled up.

Not necessarily either.

On 26/05/2020 20:55, Tim Streater wrote:
On 26 May 2020 at 18:33:22 BST, "Jake56" wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
polygonum_on_google wrote:
Anyone can make a mistake. (Even me!) Admitting, accepting, apologising.
They are what draw the poison.

And those in a similar sort of position who've done so have all resigned.

No one else did it when both were infected with the virus
and had kids who had to be looked after by someone with
the only suitable relos that far away.

Personally I don't think any of them should have resigned. Of the regs
controlling all this, the social distancing and the general stay-at-home rule
are the only important ones. For the rest, there should have just been a
general exception for buying food, and urgent situations. What is an urgent
situation? You decide. After that, all you need is spot checks by the fuzz.
Trying to micromanage what is or is not an urgent situation is a fool's
errand.

They *should* resign. These are the ****bags who created the fuzziness
and seem to have done so purely so they can continue doing as they
please. Double standards is what it's all about. For a pathetic ****
like Cummings to cite obscure text within his cunningly drafted rules
proves these *******s to be worthless scum. And I *did* vote for the
conservatives last time.


With any luck, SD will last beyond the end of this, and fewer people will be
infected with other things like flu. Then folk might start to understand that
this country is OVERCROWDED and that something needs to be done about it.

"Richard" wrote in message
...
On 26/05/2020 20:55, Tim Streater wrote:
On 26 May 2020 at 18:33:22 BST, "Jake56" wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
polygonum_on_google wrote:
Anyone can make a mistake. (Even me!) Admitting, accepting,
apologising.
They are what draw the poison.

And those in a similar sort of position who've done so have all
resigned.

No one else did it when both were infected with the virus
and had kids who had to be looked after by someone with
the only suitable relos that far away.

Personally I don't think any of them should have resigned. Of the regs
controlling all this, the social distancing and the general stay-at-home
rule
are the only important ones. For the rest, there should have just been a
general exception for buying food, and urgent situations. What is an
urgent
situation? You decide. After that, all you need is spot checks by the
fuzz.
Trying to micromanage what is or is not an urgent situation is a fool's
errand.

They *should* resign. These are the ****bags who created the fuzziness and
seem to have done so purely so they can continue doing as they please.
Double standards is what it's all about. For a pathetic **** like Cummings
to cite obscure text within his cunningly drafted rules proves these
*******s to be worthless scum.

Or he realised that it would make sense for some in
that situation to do that and he was right about that.

And I *did* vote for the conservatives last time.

And will do next time, you watch.

With any luck, SD will last beyond the end of this, and fewer people will
be
infected with other things like flu. Then folk might start to understand
that
this country is OVERCROWDED and that something needs to be done about it.

On Wed, 27 May 2020 10:16:23 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

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In article ,
Richard wrote:
They *should* resign. These are the ****bags who created the fuzziness
and seem to have done so purely so they can continue doing as they
please. Double standards is what it's all about. For a pathetic ****
like Cummings to cite obscure text within his cunningly drafted rules
proves these *******s to be worthless scum. And I *did* vote for the
conservatives last time.

I'm quite surprised it's taken this long for you to realise just what
Cummings is.

He is pretty well like Trump. Wants to drain the 'swamp' that is the UK
civil service etc, and replace it with his own cesspit. Where anything to
his advantage is just fine. Anything else false news and harassment.

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On 26 May 2020 19:55:42 GMT, Tim Streater
wrote:

On 26 May 2020 at 18:33:22 BST, "Jake56" wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
polygonum_on_google wrote:
Anyone can make a mistake. (Even me!) Admitting, accepting, apologising.
They are what draw the poison.

And those in a similar sort of position who've done so have all resigned.

No one else did it when both were infected with the virus
and had kids who had to be looked after by someone with
the only suitable relos that far away.

Personally I don't think any of them should have resigned. Of the regs
controlling all this, the social distancing and the general stay-at-home rule
are the only important ones. For the rest, there should have just been a
general exception for buying food, and urgent situations. What is an urgent
situation? You decide. After that, all you need is spot checks by the fuzz.
Trying to micromanage what is or is not an urgent situation is a fool's
errand.

With any luck, SD will last beyond the end of this, and fewer people will be
infected with other things like flu. Then folk might start to understand that
this country is OVERCROWDED and that something needs to be done about it.

Care to start the process yourself?

On 27 May 2020 11:21:04 GMT, Tim Streater
wrote:

On 27 May 2020 at 12:14:06 BST, Pomegranate *******
wrote:

On 26 May 2020 19:55:42 GMT, Tim Streater
wrote:

On 26 May 2020 at 18:33:22 BST, "Jake56" wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
polygonum_on_google wrote:
Anyone can make a mistake. (Even me!) Admitting, accepting, apologising.
They are what draw the poison.

And those in a similar sort of position who've done so have all resigned.

No one else did it when both were infected with the virus
and had kids who had to be looked after by someone with
the only suitable relos that far away.

Personally I don't think any of them should have resigned. Of the regs
controlling all this, the social distancing and the general stay-at-home rule
are the only important ones. For the rest, there should have just been a
general exception for buying food, and urgent situations. What is an urgent
situation? You decide. After that, all you need is spot checks by the fuzz.
Trying to micromanage what is or is not an urgent situation is a fool's
errand.

With any luck, SD will last beyond the end of this, and fewer people will be
infected with other things like flu. Then folk might start to understand that
this country is OVERCROWDED and that something needs to be done about it.

Care to start the process yourself?

Sending back all these non-refugees arriving illegally in rubber dinghies
would be a start.

You missed my point.

To spell it out for you, get to the front of the queue.

In article ,
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Richard wrote:
They *should* resign. These are the ****bags who created the fuzziness
and seem to have done so purely so they can continue doing as they
please. Double standards is what it's all about. For a pathetic ****
like Cummings to cite obscure text within his cunningly drafted rules
proves these *******s to be worthless scum. And I *did* vote for the
conservatives last time.

I'm quite surprised it's taken this long for you to realise just what
Cummings is.

He is pretty well like Trump. Wants to drain the 'swamp' that is the UK
civil service etc, and replace it with his own cesspit. Where anything to
his advantage is just fine. Anything else false news and harassment.


I'm surprised that you haven't mentioned, Dave, another thing: he is not
even "an elected representative". Despite this, [I believe], he sits in
on the SAGE meetings -- in what capacity other than that of a political
commissar, I would like to know?

It's clear that -- like his "boss", and like the American looney that
you mention above, he is an egomaniac. And wrt to his "boss": I can now
never forget the letter, revealed again last year, which was sent to
BJ's father in 1982 by Eton College ... which describes exactly the
attitude that all these people have.

Cheers
John

And a PS for Cursitor Doom, who has such a filthy view of this country,
now:
Britain's become like some t**d-world, South American s**t-hole country
of late.

(such language! Would that I had the balls and Real Man attitude to
spell out those words, in this esteemed debating chamber!)

No, no, no Cursitor Old Chap: Britain is making splendid progress as a
civilized country: 100 years ago (when Spanish Flu was sweeping the
world), DC would have been lynched by a mob in short order.

(Note that I am _not_ saying that that is what should have happened. I'm
merely reflecting on the possible mood of a mob, when such outrageous,
unforgivable contempt is shown by their privileged "betters".)

But anyway ... "let's move on, shall we?". heavy sigh. rolls eyes, etc.

In article ,
Another John wrote:
He is pretty well like Trump. Wants to drain the 'swamp' that is the UK
civil service etc, and replace it with his own cesspit. Where anything to
his advantage is just fine. Anything else false news and harassment.


I'm surprised that you haven't mentioned, Dave, another thing: he is not
even "an elected representative". Despite this, [I believe], he sits in
on the SAGE meetings -- in what capacity other than that of a political
commissar, I would like to know?

Thought everyone knew.

He was a prime mover in the Leave campaign. One who's job was to create
the sound bites and headlines that were so successful.

Like take back control. (From the unelected Brussels bureaucrats). To be
replaced by him. Another unelected bureaucrat.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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On 28/05/2020 10:00, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Another John wrote:
He is pretty well like Trump. Wants to drain the 'swamp' that is the UK
civil service etc, and replace it with his own cesspit. Where anything to
his advantage is just fine. Anything else false news and harassment.


I'm surprised that you haven't mentioned, Dave, another thing: he is not
even "an elected representative". Despite this, [I believe], he sits in
on the SAGE meetings -- in what capacity other than that of a political
commissar, I would like to know?

Thought everyone knew.

He was a prime mover in the Leave campaign. One who's job was to create
the sound bites and headlines that were so successful.

Like take back control. (From the unelected Brussels bureaucrats). To be
replaced by him. Another unelected bureaucrat.


Which is the exact reason that ****'s like you are attacking him

Why are you not attacking Kinnock

Why are you not attacking Tahir Ali

Why are you not attacking Campbell


They like you are anti democratic remoaners thats why.


You are a hypocrite.

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