I seldom need to print stuff nowadays and long ago decided I would use a
local print firm to do any high quality prints of photos etc. as I was
fed up with inkjet printers' print heads blocking from lack of use.

So I bought a cheap samsumg clp320 colour laser which worked okay, not
very good colour quality but okay for the occasional print, replaced the
toners with a "starter" kit as they ran out, because the full size
toners were more expensive than the machine, but it started smearing
colours over the page. Now it has got low on yellow and of course won't
even print in black and white.

Not a problem as I inherited a HP 1300 black and white printer. This,
despite giving the toner a shake, now prints faintly in the centre
portion. This toner also costs more than a replacement printer.

I am considering just junking them but wondered is there anything I can
diy to clean the samsung to stop the toner smearing, is it a problem
with the drum needing cleaning?

Else any recommendations for a reasonable, preferably colour, laser I
doubt I'll ever need to print more than a ream of so again.

On Wed, 20 May 2020 18:55:46 +0100, AJH wrote:

I seldom need to print stuff nowadays and long ago decided I would use a
local print firm to do any high quality prints of photos etc. as I was
fed up with inkjet printers' print heads blocking from lack of use.

It may be worth you looking again at HP inkjets - not long ago they were
offering free for life refills if you only printered 15 pages a month.
The refills were sent monthly. You have to connect printer to internet
and pay for the extra copies at x pence per page but it may be worth
looking into before you make a final decision.

A while back when I was in the same position only printing the odd few sheets on a Samsung colour laser buying a full set of toners was well over the price of the printer. I nearly just bought a new one with another starter set of toners. I wish I could do without a printer unfortunately the need to print out the boarding pass and recently a returns notice means having something just in case.

Richard

On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:55:50 UTC+1, AJH wrote:
I seldom need to print stuff nowadays and long ago decided I would use a
local print firm to do any high quality prints of photos etc. as I was
fed up with inkjet printers' print heads blocking from lack of use.

So I bought a cheap samsumg clp320 colour laser which worked okay, not
very good colour quality but okay for the occasional print, replaced the
toners with a "starter" kit as they ran out, because the full size
toners were more expensive than the machine, but it started smearing
colours over the page. Now it has got low on yellow and of course won't
even print in black and white.

Not a problem as I inherited a HP 1300 black and white printer. This,
despite giving the toner a shake, now prints faintly in the centre
portion. This toner also costs more than a replacement printer.

I am considering just junking them but wondered is there anything I can
diy to clean the samsung to stop the toner smearing, is it a problem
with the drum needing cleaning?

Else any recommendations for a reasonable, preferably colour, laser I
doubt I'll ever need to print more than a ream of so again.

Sometimes cleaning toner crud of the drum is all that's needed to fix smearing. Can result from a full waste toner collector, or need for a general interior clean. I'm not saying there are no other causes.

Definitely stick with laser/LED. While they're not perfect, inkjets are a mare in comparison. My ancient HPs still work, albeit slow at processing compared to newer machines.


NT

On Wed, 20 May 2020 12:29:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:55:50 UTC+1, AJH wrote:
I seldom need to print stuff nowadays and long ago decided I would use a
local print firm to do any high quality prints of photos etc. as I was
fed up with inkjet printers' print heads blocking from lack of use.

So I bought a cheap samsumg clp320 colour laser which worked okay, not
very good colour quality but okay for the occasional print, replaced the
toners with a "starter" kit as they ran out, because the full size
toners were more expensive than the machine, but it started smearing
colours over the page. Now it has got low on yellow and of course won't
even print in black and white.

Not a problem as I inherited a HP 1300 black and white printer. This,
despite giving the toner a shake, now prints faintly in the centre
portion. This toner also costs more than a replacement printer.

I am considering just junking them but wondered is there anything I can
diy to clean the samsung to stop the toner smearing, is it a problem
with the drum needing cleaning?

Else any recommendations for a reasonable, preferably colour, laser I
doubt I'll ever need to print more than a ream of so again.

Sometimes cleaning toner crud of the drum is all that's needed to fix smearing. Can result from a full waste toner collector, or need for a general interior clean. I'm not saying there are no other causes.

Definitely stick with laser/LED. While they're not perfect, inkjets are a mare in comparison. My ancient HPs still work, albeit slow at processing compared to newer machines.


NT

I have a Clp 320 which had the same problem as yours, clean and wash
out the toner collector clean the dust off the drum with a lint free
cloth, don't touch it with your fingers and your good to go.

"Rambo" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 20 May 2020 12:29:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:55:50 UTC+1, AJH wrote:
I seldom need to print stuff nowadays and long ago decided I would use a
local print firm to do any high quality prints of photos etc. as I was
fed up with inkjet printers' print heads blocking from lack of use.

So I bought a cheap samsumg clp320 colour laser which worked okay, not
very good colour quality but okay for the occasional print

We were in the same position: we didn't use our inkjet sufficiently often to
keep the ink flowing, so I set a reminder on my phone to print a Windows
test page every week. But eventually colours started to fail, and then the
black failed. I didn't care about perfect colour reproduction, so I bought
cheaper clone cartridges, but being an Epson, it would intermittently refuse
to acknowledge that there was even a cartridge installed in one of the bays.
And it wouldn't print in black only unless all the colours were present and
not empty.

So we bought a laser printer - HP - and the reproduction of colour photos is
a lot better than I'd been expecting, given that they say inkjets give more
faithful and more subtle gradations than lasers.

, replaced the
toners with a "starter" kit as they ran out, because the full size
toners were more expensive than the machine, but it started smearing
colours over the page. Now it has got low on yellow and of course won't
even print in black and white.

Not a problem as I inherited a HP 1300 black and white printer. This,
despite giving the toner a shake, now prints faintly in the centre
portion. This toner also costs more than a replacement printer.

I am considering just junking them but wondered is there anything I can
diy to clean the samsung to stop the toner smearing, is it a problem
with the drum needing cleaning?

Else any recommendations for a reasonable, preferably colour, laser I
doubt I'll ever need to print more than a ream of so again.

Sometimes cleaning toner crud of the drum is all that's needed to fix
smearing. Can result from a full waste toner collector, or need for a
general interior clean. I'm not saying there are no other causes.

Definitely stick with laser/LED. While they're not perfect, inkjets are a
mare in comparison. My ancient HPs still work, albeit slow at processing
compared to newer machines.

We've not had the laser long enough to use up the cartridges it came with,
but I'm preparing for "ouch" prices when we need new ones. But they last
indefinitely until the toner is used up - toner doesn't "dry up" if you
don't print a test page every so often.

I have a Clp 320 which had the same problem as yours, clean and wash
out the toner collector clean the dust off the drum with a lint free
cloth, don't touch it with your fingers and your good to go.

And if you get any toner on your clothes, brush and bang as much out as you
can, and then wash the item in *COLD* water. *Never* warm or hot, or that
will cause the toner to fuse into the cloth as it is designed to fuse to the
paper.

Go to a shop or online company and you can get the toner anddrum cart for
most hps at well under 20 quid.
Brian

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I seldom need to print stuff nowadays and long ago decided I would use a
local print firm to do any high quality prints of photos etc. as I was fed
up with inkjet printers' print heads blocking from lack of use.

So I bought a cheap samsumg clp320 colour laser which worked okay, not
very good colour quality but okay for the occasional print, replaced the
toners with a "starter" kit as they ran out, because the full size toners
were more expensive than the machine, but it started smearing colours over
the page. Now it has got low on yellow and of course won't even print in
black and white.

Not a problem as I inherited a HP 1300 black and white printer. This,
despite giving the toner a shake, now prints faintly in the centre
portion. This toner also costs more than a replacement printer.

I am considering just junking them but wondered is there anything I can
diy to clean the samsung to stop the toner smearing, is it a problem with
the drum needing cleaning?

Else any recommendations for a reasonable, preferably colour, laser I
doubt I'll ever need to print more than a ream of so again.

On 20/05/2020 18:55, AJH wrote:

I seldom need to print stuff nowadays and long ago decided I would use a
local print firm to do any high quality prints of photos etc. as I was
fed up with inkjet printers' print heads blocking from lack of use.

So I bought a cheap samsumg clp320 colour laser which worked okay, not
very good colour quality but okay for the occasional print, replaced the
toners with a "starter" kit as they ran out, because the full size
toners were more expensive than the machine, but it started smearing
colours over the page. Now it has got low on yellow and of course won't
even print in black and white.

Not a problem as I inherited a HP 1300 black and white printer. This,
despite giving the toner a shake, now prints faintly in the centre
portion. This toner also costs more than a replacement printer.

I am considering just junking themÂ* but wondered is there anything I can
diy to clean the samsung to stop the toner smearing, is it a problem
with the drum needing cleaning?

Else any recommendations for a reasonable, preferably colour, laserÂ* I
doubt I'll ever need to print more than a ream of so again.

You can try cleaning the surface of the drum (soft cloth, and some IPA).
Don't do it in bright light. Also clean the rest of the paper path.
Printing a solid page of black, and then feeding it through again a few
times each way up, can help clean the fuser rollers.

If looking at new, and you want lower running costs, get a mono laser -
much cheaper to keep in refiles.

Something like:

https://www.ebuyer.com/757009-hp-m10...ter-g3q34a-b19

also claims to come with full carts rather than "starter" ones.


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On 20/05/2020 18:55, AJH wrote:


Not a problem as I inherited a HP 1300 black and white printer. This,
despite giving the toner a shake, now prints faintly in the centre
portion. This toner also costs more than a replacement printer.

Maybe
https://www.stinkyinkshop.co.uk/prod...ridge-stq2613x

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On 20/05/2020 22:08, alan_m wrote:
On 20/05/2020 18:55, AJH wrote:


Not a problem as I inherited a HP 1300 black and white printer. This,
despite giving the toner a shake, now prints faintly in the centre
portion. This toner also costs more than a replacement printer.

Maybe
https://www.stinkyinkshop.co.uk/prod...ridge-stq2613x

I have used them before for my Dell and the cartridges were fine. Not
quite as photo real as the original Dell ones but I could buy a full
CMYK set for a quarter the price of a single OEM toner.

Machine grumbles slightly about warrantee invalidated for using non-OEM
toner but it is nearly a decade old now.

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Martin Brown

On 20/05/2020 18:55, AJH wrote:
HP 1300

I've been using non-original HP toner s for years without a problem.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_f...fLoc=1&_sop=15

On Wed, 20 May 2020 18:55:46 +0100
AJH wrote:

I seldom need to print stuff nowadays and long ago decided I would
use a local print firm to do any high quality prints of photos etc.
as I was fed up with inkjet printers' print heads blocking from lack
of use.

So I bought a cheap samsumg clp320 colour laser which worked okay,
not very good colour quality but okay for the occasional print,
replaced the toners with a "starter" kit as they ran out, because the
full size toners were more expensive than the machine, but it started
smearing colours over the page. Now it has got low on yellow and of
course won't even print in black and white.

Not a problem as I inherited a HP 1300 black and white printer. This,
despite giving the toner a shake, now prints faintly in the centre
portion. This toner also costs more than a replacement printer.

I am considering just junking them but wondered is there anything I
can diy to clean the samsung to stop the toner smearing, is it a
problem with the drum needing cleaning?

Else any recommendations for a reasonable, preferably colour, laser
I doubt I'll ever need to print more than a ream of so again.

A few years ago, I was in the same position, and bought an HP Laserjet
200 M251. It just works, and I am still on the starter colour toners.

--
Davey.

On 20/05/2020 18:55, AJH wrote:

Not a problem as I inherited a HP 1300 black and white printer. This,
despite giving the toner a shake, now prints faintly in the centre
portion. This toner also costs more than a replacement printer.

That's a domestic printer alright. Made for SOHO users and sold on the
razor blade pricing model, so not much of an escape from the world of
ink cartridges. But you inherited it, so some claw back.

I prefer printers built for offices. They have better ink capacity,
larger paper trays and cheaper replacement compatible carts. From
companies like printerland.co.uk they are not that much different in
cost than what you may find in John Lewis...


I am considering just junking themÂ* but wondered is there anything I can
diy to clean the samsung to stop the toner smearing, is it a problem
with the drum needing cleaning?

Just found a YouTube vid on how to strip Samsumg printers down if it helps.

Disassembly Samsung Laser Printer CLP-320/360 and others
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5udVvf1QSEU

This fellow seems to specialise in lots of other similar videos.

Toner Cartridge Printing Defects: Causes and Solutions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn6DpDC8g8U

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"NY" wrote in message
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"Rambo" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 20 May 2020 12:29:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:55:50 UTC+1, AJH wrote:
I seldom need to print stuff nowadays and long ago decided I would use
a
local print firm to do any high quality prints of photos etc. as I was
fed up with inkjet printers' print heads blocking from lack of use.

So I bought a cheap samsumg clp320 colour laser which worked okay, not
very good colour quality but okay for the occasional print

We were in the same position: we didn't use our inkjet sufficiently often
to keep the ink flowing, so I set a reminder on my phone to print a
Windows test page every week. But eventually colours started to fail, and
then the black failed. I didn't care about perfect colour reproduction, so
I bought cheaper clone cartridges, but being an Epson, it would
intermittently refuse to acknowledge that there was even a cartridge
installed in one of the bays. And it wouldn't print in black only unless
all the colours were present and not empty.

So we bought a laser printer - HP - and the reproduction of colour photos
is a lot better than I'd been expecting, given that they say inkjets give
more faithful and more subtle gradations than lasers.

, replaced the
toners with a "starter" kit as they ran out, because the full size
toners were more expensive than the machine, but it started smearing
colours over the page. Now it has got low on yellow and of course won't
even print in black and white.

Not a problem as I inherited a HP 1300 black and white printer. This,
despite giving the toner a shake, now prints faintly in the centre
portion. This toner also costs more than a replacement printer.

I am considering just junking them but wondered is there anything I
can
diy to clean the samsung to stop the toner smearing, is it a problem
with the drum needing cleaning?

Else any recommendations for a reasonable, preferably colour, laser I
doubt I'll ever need to print more than a ream of so again.

Sometimes cleaning toner crud of the drum is all that's needed to fix
smearing. Can result from a full waste toner collector, or need for a
general interior clean. I'm not saying there are no other causes.

Definitely stick with laser/LED. While they're not perfect, inkjets are a
mare in comparison. My ancient HPs still work, albeit slow at processing
compared to newer machines.

We've not had the laser long enough to use up the cartridges it came with,
but I'm preparing for "ouch" prices when we need new ones. But they last
indefinitely until the toner is used up - toner doesn't "dry up" if you
don't print a test page every so often.

I have a Clp 320 which had the same problem as yours, clean and wash
out the toner collector clean the dust off the drum with a lint free
cloth, don't touch it with your fingers and your good to go.

And if you get any toner on your clothes, brush and bang as much out as
you can, and then wash the item in *COLD* water. *Never* warm or hot, or
that will cause the toner to fuse into the cloth as it is designed to fuse
to the paper.

I don't bother with a printer anymore. print the very few things
I need to print down the library. But currently the virus has shut
the library. Fortunately I havent needed to print anything.

On 20/05/2020 18:55, AJH wrote:
Else any recommendations for a reasonable, preferably colour, laserÂ* I
doubt I'll ever need to print more than a ream of so again.

I have been happy with a HP M252n. third party toner/drums sometimes
leaves bands or tone variation and isn't always 100% right colorwise,.
but its good enough for me.


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other is to refuse to believe what is true.€�

€”Soren Kierkegaard

Adrian Caspersz has brought this to us :
I prefer printers built for offices. They have better ink capacity, larger
paper trays and cheaper replacement compatible carts. From companies like
printerland.co.uk they are not that much different in cost than what you may
find in John Lewis...

I have add an ex-office throwaway HP4000 laser, complete with
networking card - it was free for collection. I must have had it for a
decade now it has only needed a replacement compatible toner cartridge
and paper. It just works when needed, which is not that often. I also
have a couple of freecycle SOHO colour lasers, which are needed even
less often. For one of them I managed to get a very cheap set of new
cartridges. These work via a print server, all in the spare room, all
powered via a wireless remote control power switch - so I can turn
printers on from anywhere, print, then switch off.

On 20/05/2020 21:46, NY wrote:
.... snipped

We've not had the laser long enough to use up the cartridges it came
with, but I'm preparing for "ouch" prices when we need new ones. But
they last indefinitely until the toner is used up - toner doesn't "dry
up" if you don't print a test page every so often.

....snipped

Sadly it seems that toner "does" degrade. I have an infrequently-used
CLP680 colour laser printer and a couple of years ago complained to
Samsung that the print colour had become poor. Their answer was that
toner does not have an indefinite life. I changed the toners and the
problem was solved.
FWIW I've always bought my toners from stinkyink

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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the endlessly quarrelling trolling senile asshole's latest troll****
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Martin Brown wrote:

Machine grumbles slightly about warrantee invalidated for using non-OEM
toner but it is nearly a decade old now.

It might grumble about Warranty or Guarantee but not warrantee (unless
they have the same typo generator).

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John Rumm wrote:

https://www.ebuyer.com/757009-hp-m10...ter-g3q34a-b19
also claims to come with full carts rather than "starter" ones.

Don't think that's correct, a "full" 17A cartridge is 1600 pages, they
only claim it's supplied with a 700 page cartridge, they do admit it's
an "introductory" cartridge further down the page

On 21/05/2020 09:32, Andy Burns wrote:
John Rumm wrote:

https://www.ebuyer.com/757009-hp-m10...ter-g3q34a-b19
also claims to come with full carts rather than "starter" ones.

Don't think that's correct, a "full" 17A cartridge is 1600 pages, they
only claim it's supplied with a 700 page cartridge, they do admit it's
an "introductory" cartridge further down the page

Yup it does give mixed messages... still if it comes with the one not as
advertised, go back to ebuyer and ask for what you bought :-)


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On Thu, 21 May 2020 08:58:27 +0100, wrote:


Sadly it seems that toner "does" degrade. I have an infrequently-used
CLP680 colour laser printer and a couple of years ago complained to
Samsung that the print colour had become poor. Their answer was that
toner does not have an indefinite life. I changed the toners and the
problem was solved.

I think that must depend on the brand. My first laser, a Ricoh, had
organic toner that stopped working with age - it must be nearly 30
years ago now so I can't remember the details. Since then I've used HP
LaserJets and they use inorganic toner. The present one, a CP2025,
colour, about 10 years old, sees very little use these days and has
never, so far, had a problem with the toner.