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Joys of rural living.
I wonder how much those gadgets costs?
Sounds like a good idea for many people actually. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! wrote in message ... This is proper rural living, not what Mumsnet calls rural living (anywhere Ocado won't deliver in Surrey). "Ken, who is in his 70s and lives off grid in a remote part of *Lochaber, was injured when a log pile collapsed on him on Saturday. He had fallen ill while in his log cabin, a two-hour walk from the nearest road, on the edge of Rannoch Moor, by Loch Treig." https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...s-off-21424546 Owain |
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Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\) wrote:
I wonder how much those gadgets costs? Sounds like a good idea for many people actually. Brian About £200 for a non-floating one, the kind normally used on land. They arent intended to be used in areas where €˜normal methods (mobile phone etc) work. In the UK, at least on land, people like hill walkers etc would be the expected users plus, of course, people like the chap in the article. Every now and then you hear of the havoc caused due to one being set off in error, maliciously, or by some fluke- mainly maritime ones. |
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Brian Reay wrote:
Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\) wrote: I wonder how much those gadgets costs? Sounds like a good idea for many people actually. Brian About £200 for a non-floating one, the kind normally used on land. They arent intended to be used in areas where €˜normal methods (mobile phone etc) work. In the UK, at least on land, people like hill walkers etc would be the expected users plus, of course, people like the chap in the article. Every now and then you hear of the havoc caused due to one being set off in error, maliciously, or by some fluke- mainly maritime ones. There are cheaper ones but if they communicate via satellites, you need a subscription and its not cheap. Eg. SPOT Gen3 Satellite GPS Tracker https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00C8S8S..._jcEoEbVJYM2DK There are versions that work through the mobile phone network but obviously you need mobile reception for them to be sure to work. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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Tim+ wrote:
Brian Reay wrote: Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\) wrote: I wonder how much those gadgets costs? Sounds like a good idea for many people actually. Brian About £200 for a non-floating one, the kind normally used on land. They arent intended to be used in areas where €˜normal methods (mobile phone etc) work. In the UK, at least on land, people like hill walkers etc would be the expected users plus, of course, people like the chap in the article. Every now and then you hear of the havoc caused due to one being set off in error, maliciously, or by some fluke- mainly maritime ones. There are cheaper ones but if they communicate via satellites, you need a subscription and its not cheap. Eg. SPOT Gen3 Satellite GPS Tracker https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00C8S8S..._jcEoEbVJYM2DK There are versions that work through the mobile phone network but obviously you need mobile reception for them to be sure to work. Tim Oops, looks like Im wrong about basic locator beacons. No subscription necessary for them. https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-adv...r-beacons.html Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote
I wonder how much those gadgets costs? £125 ish Sounds like a good idea for many people actually. Most are better off with a mobile phone. Using an EPIRB costs the system a hell of a lot when you set it off. Big advantage is that its independent of the mobile coverage. wrote in message ... This is proper rural living, not what Mumsnet calls rural living (anywhere Ocado won't deliver in Surrey). "Ken, who is in his 70s and lives off grid in a remote part of *Lochaber, was injured when a log pile collapsed on him on Saturday. He had fallen ill while in his log cabin, a two-hour walk from the nearest road, on the edge of Rannoch Moor, by Loch Treig." https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...s-off-21424546 Owain |
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UNBELIEVABLE: It's 08:47 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard has been out of Bed and TROLLING for OVER SEVEN HOURS, ALL NIGHT LONG!!!! LOL
On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 08:47:24 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile asshole's troll**** 08:47!!! You ****ing stupid senile LAUGHING STOCK! LOL -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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On 04/02/2020 21:26, Tim+ wrote:
Brian Reay wrote: Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\) wrote: I wonder how much those gadgets costs? Sounds like a good idea for many people actually. Brian About £200 for a non-floating one, the kind normally used on land. They arent intended to be used in areas where €˜normal methods (mobile phone etc) work. In the UK, at least on land, people like hill walkers etc would be the expected users plus, of course, people like the chap in the article. Every now and then you hear of the havoc caused due to one being set off in error, maliciously, or by some fluke- mainly maritime ones. There are cheaper ones but if they communicate via satellites, you need a subscription and its not cheap. Eg. SPOT Gen3 Satellite GPS Tracker https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00C8S8S..._jcEoEbVJYM2DK There are versions that work through the mobile phone network but obviously you need mobile reception for them to be sure to work. If there is a phone network available and you know where the person is is there an app for a smart phone that will call someone if you do not move for 5 minutes. I cannot find one but would like one. -- Adam |
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"ARW" wrote in message ... On 04/02/2020 21:26, Tim+ wrote: Brian Reay wrote: Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\) wrote: I wonder how much those gadgets costs? Sounds like a good idea for many people actually. Brian About £200 for a non-floating one, the kind normally used on land. They arent intended to be used in areas where €˜normal methods (mobile phone etc) work. In the UK, at least on land, people like hill walkers etc would be the expected users plus, of course, people like the chap in the article. Every now and then you hear of the havoc caused due to one being set off in error, maliciously, or by some fluke- mainly maritime ones. There are cheaper ones but if they communicate via satellites, you need a subscription and its not cheap. Eg. SPOT Gen3 Satellite GPS Tracker https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00C8S8S..._jcEoEbVJYM2DK There are versions that work through the mobile phone network but obviously you need mobile reception for them to be sure to work. If there is a phone network available and you know where the person is is there an app for a smart phone that will call someone if you do not move for 5 minutes. That isnt going to work, they can not move for that long when they doze off. And you cant even use a PIR alarm sensor because that can't distinguish between someone just asleep and someone who is unconscious. I cannot find one but would like one. In theory an apple watch can sort of get close, but even it cant distinguish between just asleep and unconscious. It does work with those who dont have dementia who can tell it to call when they have fallen and cant get up etc, but not when they just go unconscious. It can in theory detect a fall but its not yet clear how many of those it misses and how often it does a false alarm when they just fall but recover unassisted fine. In theory that last can be handled by the system telling you that it will call if you dont cancel the alarm and some of the wearable things do it like that, but the person does need to be mentally competent to be able to cancel the alarm. |
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Lonely Auto-contradicting Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 11:24:15 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH another load of the senile Arsetralian asshole's senile troll**** ....and better air in here. -- Norman Wells addressing trolling senile Rodent: "Ah, the voice of scum speaks." MID: |
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But despite all this they still managed to lose a whole plane full of
passengers did they not? Still, I guess short usage patterns like distress signals should not cost much. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Tim+" wrote in message ... Tim+ wrote: Brian Reay wrote: Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\) wrote: I wonder how much those gadgets costs? Sounds like a good idea for many people actually. Brian About £200 for a non-floating one, the kind normally used on land. They aren't intended to be used in areas where 'normal' methods (mobile phone etc) work. In the UK, at least on land, people like hill walkers etc would be the expected users plus, of course, people like the chap in the article. Every now and then you hear of the havoc caused due to one being set off in error, maliciously, or by some fluke- mainly maritime ones. There are cheaper ones but if they communicate via satellites, you need a subscription and it's not cheap. Eg. SPOT Gen3 Satellite GPS Tracker https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00C8S8S..._jcEoEbVJYM2DK There are versions that work through the mobile phone network but obviously you need mobile reception for them to be sure to work. Tim Oops, looks like I'm wrong about basic locator beacons. No subscription necessary for them. https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-adv...r-beacons.html Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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There is a flaw in that plan. It would go off every time you left the thing
on charge overnight! That I think is why such things get built into the watch. False alarms are not much good. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "ARW" wrote in message ... On 04/02/2020 21:26, Tim+ wrote: Brian Reay wrote: Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\) wrote: I wonder how much those gadgets costs? Sounds like a good idea for many people actually. Brian About £200 for a non-floating one, the kind normally used on land. They aren't intended to be used in areas where 'normal' methods (mobile phone etc) work. In the UK, at least on land, people like hill walkers etc would be the expected users plus, of course, people like the chap in the article. Every now and then you hear of the havoc caused due to one being set off in error, maliciously, or by some fluke- mainly maritime ones. There are cheaper ones but if they communicate via satellites, you need a subscription and it's not cheap. Eg. SPOT Gen3 Satellite GPS Tracker https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00C8S8S..._jcEoEbVJYM2DK There are versions that work through the mobile phone network but obviously you need mobile reception for them to be sure to work. If there is a phone network available and you know where the person is is there an app for a smart phone that will call someone if you do not move for 5 minutes. I cannot find one but would like one. -- Adam |
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I think youll find theyre a lot more sophisticated than simple impact
sensors. Theyll be analysing movements (or lack of) after sudden accelerations to see if they fit the profile of a fall followed by immobility. Tim Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\) wrote: Yes I thought it might be more than that. I was intrigued to learn that Apple have a fall detector in their watches, I wonder how reliable that is. One assumes you would not have it on if doing something like breaking up concrete or doing judo! Brian -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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UNBELIEVABLE: It's 04:45 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard has been out of Bed and TROLLING for ONE AND A HALF HOUR already!!!! LOL
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 04:45:24 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the sleepless senile Arsetralian asshole's latest troll**** 04:45??? LOL WHY can't you sleep AT ALL anymore, you sick senile Arsetralian trolling asshole? Is because of me? LMAO -- FredXX to Rot Speed: "You are still an idiot and an embarrassment to your country. No wonder we shipped the likes of you out of the British Isles. Perhaps stupidity and criminality is inherited after all?" Message-ID: |
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UNBELIEVABLE: It's 04:56 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard has been out of Bed and TROLLING for ONE AND A HALF HOUR already!!!! LOL
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 04:56:53 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH troll**** 04:56??? Any idea WHEN you will go back to bed again, you lonely sleepless senile pest? Not AT ALL? LOL -- Norman Wells addressing trolling senile Rodent: "Ah, the voice of scum speaks." MID: |
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Tim+ wrote
I think youll find theyre a lot more sophisticated than simple impact sensors. Theyll be analysing movements (or lack of) after sudden accelerations to see if they fit the profile of a fall followed by immobility. But can stuff up rather spectacularly. https://www.phonearena.com/news/appl...ht-tv_id120286 No big deal if you are mentally competent but presumably a serious problem with the gaga. I'd like to try one but I always hated wearing watches and havent bothered for decades literally now. Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\) wrote: Yes I thought it might be more than that. I was intrigued to learn that Apple have a fall detector in their watches, I wonder how reliable that is. One assumes you would not have it on if doing something like breaking up concrete or doing judo! Brian -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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UNBELIEVABLE: It's 08:37 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard has been out of Bed and TROLLING for OVER FIVE HOURS already!!!! LOL
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 08:37:51 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH senile asshole's troll**** 08:37??? There's NO cure for you, eh, you abnormal sociopathic senile pest? LOL -- FredXX to Rot Speed: "You are still an idiot and an embarrassment to your country. No wonder we shipped the likes of you out of the British Isles. Perhaps stupidity and criminality is inherited after all?" Message-ID: |
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On 05/02/2020 17:05, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
But despite all this they still managed to lose a whole plane full of passengers did they not? Posibly because such devices don't work under water. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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