I "rescued" this bulb from a blown over and broken street lamp.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5FrDrce6SbGXhKQs8

I suspect it's not gonna work plugged into a standard ES socket. Any creative suggestions as to what to do with it? ;-)

Tim

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I "rescued" this bulb from a blown over and broken street lamp.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5FrDrce6SbGXhKQs8

I suspect it's not gonna work plugged into a standard ES socket. Any
creative suggestions as to what to do with it? ;-)

:-)

I once discovered that British Rail carriage lamps fitted my Boxford
centre lathe work light!

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Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Tim+
writes
I "rescued" this bulb from a blown over and broken street lamp.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5FrDrce6SbGXhKQs8

I suspect it's not gonna work plugged into a standard ES socket. Any
creative suggestions as to what to do with it? ;-)

:-)

I once discovered that British Rail carriage lamps fitted my Boxford
centre lathe work light!


My fridge light is currently broken but this one wont fit. ;-)

Tim

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It looks to me like a sodium discharge bulb, couldnt say whether it is high or low pressure type, certainly the high pressure type need a ballast to work. Might be useful for an outside light but not inside unless you particularly like a bright yellow light effect.

Richard

On 31/12/2019 16:40, Tim+ wrote:
I "rescued" this bulb from a blown over and broken street lamp.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5FrDrce6SbGXhKQs8

I suspect it's not gonna work plugged into a standard ES socket. Any creative suggestions as to what to do with it? ;-)


Go back and steal the control gear. A socket set will open up the metal
cover.


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On Tuesday, 31 December 2019 16:53:01 UTC, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Tim+
writes
I "rescued" this bulb from a blown over and broken street lamp.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5FrDrce6SbGXhKQs8

I suspect it's not gonna work plugged into a standard ES socket. Any
creative suggestions as to what to do with it? ;-)

:-)

I once discovered that British Rail carriage lamps fitted my Boxford
centre lathe work light!

Some (even all?) have three pins (rather than the standard two pins on normal BC).

ARW wrote:
On 31/12/2019 16:40, Tim+ wrote:
I "rescued" this bulb from a blown over and broken street lamp.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5FrDrce6SbGXhKQs8

I suspect it's not gonna work plugged into a standard ES socket. Any
creative suggestions as to what to do with it? ;-)


Go back and steal the control gear.

I think you mean €œrescue€�, not steal. ;-)

A socket set will open up the metal
cover.

Alas not possible I was exaggerated a little bit about the whole lamp
blowing over, it was only the lantern off he top that blew off. Its also
in a very public place for performing such rescues. Itll almost certainly
get replaced with an LED lamp so I suppose I could ask the council nicely
if they have any redundant control gear. Any idea what I should ask for
(exactly)?


Tim


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Tricky Dicky wrote:
It looks to me like a sodium discharge bulb, couldnt say whether it is
high or low pressure type, certainly the high pressure type need a
ballast to work. Might be useful for an outside light but not inside
unless you particularly like a bright yellow light effect.

Richard


I dont think its sodium. Its a discharge lamp of some sort (a Philips
bulb) but I think it was a white ( or near white) light, not bright orange
or pale peachy orange.

Tim

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On Tuesday, 31 December 2019 17:49:11 UTC, Tim+ wrote:
Tricky Dicky wrote:
It looks to me like a sodium discharge bulb, couldnt say whether it is
high or low pressure type, certainly the high pressure type need a
ballast to work. Might be useful for an outside light but not inside
unless you particularly like a bright yellow light effect.

Richard


I dont think its sodium. Its a discharge lamp of some sort (a Philips
bulb) but I think it was a white ( or near white) light, not bright orange
or pale peachy orange.


It will be a high pressure mercury discharge light...Needs a ballast.
Go back and nick the ballast.
They are obsolete. More efficient hat an incandescent lamp but less than an LED

Tim+ wrote:

I "rescued" this bulb from a blown over and broken street lamp.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5FrDrce6SbGXhKQs8

I suspect it's not gonna work plugged into a standard ES socket.

it's probably a SOX one that needs a ballast

Any creative suggestions as to what to do with it? ;-)

Send it to clive (not really he's probably got dozens of them)

Mount it into some kind of display base as a kind of talking point item. B
flog it back to the council.
Brian

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I "rescued" this bulb from a blown over and broken street lamp.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5FrDrce6SbGXhKQs8

I suspect it's not gonna work plugged into a standard ES socket. Any
creative suggestions as to what to do with it? ;-)

Tim

You also might get arrested for stealing it if there were cctv cameras
around when you took it.

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It looks to me like a sodium discharge bulb, couldn't say whether it is
high or low pressure type, certainly the high pressure type need a ballast
to work. Might be useful for an outside light but not inside unless you
particularly like a bright yellow light effect.

Richard

Which are the bluish ones that seem bright and indeed upset my non seeing
eyes but seem dim contrast wise, called?
Mercury vapour?
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Tricky Dicky wrote:
It looks to me like a sodium discharge bulb, couldn't say whether it is
high or low pressure type, certainly the high pressure type need a
ballast to work. Might be useful for an outside light but not inside
unless you particularly like a bright yellow light effect.

Richard


I don't think it's sodium. It's a discharge lamp of some sort (a Philips
bulb) but I think it was a white ( or near white) light, not bright orange
or pale peachy orange.

Tim

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I'd suggest just giving them the bulb back personally.
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ARW wrote:
On 31/12/2019 16:40, Tim+ wrote:
I "rescued" this bulb from a blown over and broken street lamp.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5FrDrce6SbGXhKQs8

I suspect it's not gonna work plugged into a standard ES socket. Any
creative suggestions as to what to do with it? ;-)


Go back and steal the control gear.

I think you mean "rescue", not steal. ;-)

A socket set will open up the metal
cover.

Alas not possible I was exaggerated a little bit about the whole lamp
blowing over, it was only the lantern off he top that blew off. It's also
in a very public place for performing such rescues. It'll almost
certainly
get replaced with an LED lamp so I suppose I could ask the council nicely
if they have any redundant control gear. Any idea what I should ask for
(exactly)?


Tim


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A valid suggestion but not very creative. ;-)

Tim


Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\) wrote:
I'd suggest just giving them the bulb back personally.
Brian




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On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 08:40:21 -0800 (PST), "Tim+"
wrote:

I "rescued" this bulb from a blown over and broken street lamp.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5FrDrce6SbGXhKQs8

I suspect it's not gonna work plugged into a standard ES socket. Any creative suggestions as to what to do with it? ;-)

Tim

The nearest I've found is a Caramic Metal Halide bulb, one of many
made by GE, good for growing plants apparently.
http://www.cp-lighting.co.uk/GE-CMH1...E40-Streetwise
You might be able to buy a suitable ballast for yours.
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On Tuesday, 31 December 2019 17:49:11 UTC, Tim+ wrote:
Tricky Dicky wrote:
It looks to me like a sodium discharge bulb, couldnt say whether it is
high or low pressure type, certainly the high pressure type need a
ballast to work. Might be useful for an outside light but not inside
unless you particularly like a bright yellow light effect.

Richard


I dont think its sodium. Its a discharge lamp of some sort (a Philips
bulb) but I think it was a white ( or near white) light, not bright orange
or pale peachy orange.

Tim

That could be HID or white sodium. Mercury is less likely.


NT

On Tuesday, 31 December 2019 16:40:23 UTC, Tim+ wrote:
I "rescued" this bulb from a blown over and broken street lamp.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5FrDrce6SbGXhKQs8

I suspect it's not gonna work plugged into a standard ES socket. Any creative suggestions as to what to do with it? ;-)

Tim

they usually go into goliath screw sockets, E40. A ballast is vital.


NT

On 31/12/2019 16:52, Tim Lamb wrote:

I once discovered that British Rail carriage lamps fitted my Boxford
centre lathe work light!

On a school trip to London I stole all the bulbs out of the train
lavatories*. They fitted the light sockets in my mate's house where we
tried them but were a lower voltage and went off like flashbulbs.

*This was when I was a pupil, not a teacher.

Bill

On 31/12/2019 21:49, Dave W wrote:

The nearest I've found is a Caramic Metal Halide bulb, one of many
made by GE, good for growing plants apparently.

Few years ago the council went round fitting such lights on the decks of
the flats. They were all stolen by local horticulturalists.

Bill

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On 31/12/2019 16:52, Tim Lamb wrote:

I once discovered that British Rail carriage lamps fitted my Boxford
centre lathe work light!

On a school trip to London I stole all the bulbs out of the train
lavatories*. They fitted the light sockets in my mate's house where we
tried them but were a lower voltage and went off like flashbulbs.

*This was when I was a pupil, not a teacher.

:-)

A while back now so I have forgotten the detail. The lathe was
originally 3 phase and I had fitted a 3/4hp single phase motor for
domestic use. The work light was transformer operated and possibly 24V
o/p.

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Tim+ wrote in

:

ARW wrote:
On 31/12/2019 16:40, Tim+ wrote:
I "rescued" this bulb from a blown over and broken street lamp.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5FrDrce6SbGXhKQs8

I suspect it's not gonna work plugged into a standard ES socket.
Any creative suggestions as to what to do with it? ;-)


Go back and steal the control gear.

I think you mean €œrescue€�, not steal. ;-)

A socket set will open up the metal
cover.

Alas not possible I was exaggerated a little bit about the whole lamp
blowing over, it was only the lantern off he top that blew off.
Its also in a very public place for performing such rescues.
Itll almost certainly get replaced with an LED lamp so I suppose I
could ask the council nicely if they have any redundant control gear.
Any idea what I should ask for (exactly)?


Tim



I doubt that they would give it to you as it places a legal onus on them
then as a "Supplier" and if it blew up in your face then your surviving
family sould sue them.

"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
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In message , Bill Wright
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On 31/12/2019 16:52, Tim Lamb wrote:

I once discovered that British Rail carriage lamps fitted my Boxford
centre lathe work light!

On a school trip to London I stole all the bulbs out of the train
lavatories*. They fitted the light sockets in my mate's house where we
tried them but were a lower voltage and went off like flashbulbs.

*This was when I was a pupil, not a teacher.

:-)

A while back now so I have forgotten the detail. The lathe was originally
3 phase and I had fitted a 3/4hp single phase motor for domestic use. The
work light was transformer operated and possibly 24V o/p.

First rule of work lights for lathes and other tools that move: always use a
*tungsten* bulb or else a light that is *permanently on* (DC-powered
tungsten or LED with current-limiting rather than fast pulsing with
controllable mark:space ratio).

The reason for this is that you want to avoid the situation where the
rotating tool/work appears to be stationary or very slowly rotating because
the stroboscopic effect of the pulsed fluorescent or LED light at certain
work speeds and pulsing rates. OK, so an AC-powered tungsten will flicker on
and off like a fluoescent will, but the thermal inertia of the filament will
mean that the stroboscopic effect will be much less apparent, so even if
there is a stationary image of the work, there will also be a clearly
blurred version.

I remember my grandpa (who made model steam locomotives on his lathe)
telling me this: his workshop was illuminated by 5-foot fluorescents but he
had a 60W tungsten bulb as his work light.

On Wednesday, 1 January 2020 18:21:03 UTC, NY wrote:
"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
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In message , Bill Wright
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On 31/12/2019 16:52, Tim Lamb wrote:

I once discovered that British Rail carriage lamps fitted my Boxford
centre lathe work light!

On a school trip to London I stole all the bulbs out of the train
lavatories*. They fitted the light sockets in my mate's house where we
tried them but were a lower voltage and went off like flashbulbs.

*This was when I was a pupil, not a teacher.

:-)

A while back now so I have forgotten the detail. The lathe was originally
3 phase and I had fitted a 3/4hp single phase motor for domestic use. The
work light was transformer operated and possibly 24V o/p.

First rule of work lights for lathes and other tools that move: always use a
*tungsten* bulb or else a light that is *permanently on* (DC-powered
tungsten or LED with current-limiting rather than fast pulsing with
controllable mark:space ratio).

The reason for this is that you want to avoid the situation where the
rotating tool/work appears to be stationary or very slowly rotating because
the stroboscopic effect of the pulsed fluorescent or LED light at certain
work speeds and pulsing rates. OK, so an AC-powered tungsten will flicker on
and off like a fluoescent will, but the thermal inertia of the filament will
mean that the stroboscopic effect will be much less apparent, so even if
there is a stationary image of the work, there will also be a clearly
blurred version.

I remember my grandpa (who made model steam locomotives on his lathe)
telling me this: his workshop was illuminated by 5-foot fluorescents but he
had a 60W tungsten bulb as his work light.

That's less applicable in the current days of high frequency electronic ballasts, but some LED bulbs are still 100Hz due to using CR PSUs and not well suited to lighting lathes.


NT