I think, thanks to a suggestion in another forum - I have nailed this..

Almost every other day, when the set was switched on, it was suggesting
it needed a retune because new channels had appeared or channel numbers
had changed.

Soon after I bought the set, a problem occurred with the software, in
as much as the ability to access directly, programs which had been
shown earlier, disappeared - everyone was affected by the issue. I
found I could improve this a little, by installing a variable antenna
attenuator.

My local transmitter is Emley Moor, but I can also receive a Tyne Tees
transmitter of the rear of the antenna. Once the software issue was
fixed with an upgrade, I was able to remove the attenuator. Any attempt
to retune would then require me to choose which of the two transmitters
to use.

Since when the set has been troubled by regular requests to be retuned.
In another forum, it was suggested that the weaker transmission might
be varying, such that the channels appear and disappear, each
reappearance prompting a retune.

I have reinstalled the attenuator, tweaked down so the set only sees
the Emley Moor transmitter. So far, it would seem to have fixed the
problem.

Maybe someone else is similarly affected?

I think that this might be an LG-specific problem.

I bought an LG "smart" TV for the kitchen, a year or so ago. Already had a Samsung smart TV in the lounge. The LG got great reviews online, so I went with it.

I have exactly the same issues as you- almost daily prompts for retune or firmware updates, the need to go through a certain confirmatory sequence of selecting country/region etc. The Samsung needs a retune from time to time, but the LG asks for it far more frequently. I also dislike the interface on the LG, compared to the Samsung (e.g. YouTube is one of the selectable, built in options in the Samsung's main DTV screen, but with the LG, I have to choose the web browser and navigate to www.youtube.com

I wouldn't buy another smart TV without testing the interface in a shop.

Regards.

Bill.

On 29/11/2019 05:41, wrote:
I also dislike the interface on the LG, compared to the Samsung (e.g. YouTube is one of the selectable, built in options in the Samsung's main DTV screen, but with the LG, I have to choose the web browser and navigate to www.youtube.com


On ours Youtube is one of the built in apps. Not that we ever use it.

My one complaint is that every time you do a retune because of a change
to the channel line up you lose all your carefully configured favorites
lists.

Andrew May wrote:

My one complaint is that every time you do a retune because of a change
to the channel line up you lose all your carefully configured favorites
lists.

Indeed you do. I have a spreadsheet which I keep up to date each
time, so recreating the list can be made more efficient.

I also take screen shots of the planned recordings on my tablet,
so I can reprogramme them again afterwards.

Chris
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@ChrisJDixon1

Plant amazing Acers.

On 29/11/2019 05:41, wrote:
I think that this might be an LG-specific problem.

I bought an LG "smart" TV for the kitchen, a year or so ago. Already
had a Samsung smart TV in the lounge. The LG got great reviews
online, so I went with it.

I have exactly the same issues as you- almost daily prompts for
retune or firmware updates, the need to go through a certain
confirmatory sequence of selecting country/region etc. The Samsung
needs a retune from time to time, but the LG asks for it far more
frequently. I also dislike the interface on the LG, compared to the
Samsung (e.g. YouTube is one of the selectable, built in options in
the Samsung's main DTV screen, but with the LG, I have to choose the
web browser and navigate to www.youtube.com

If its a Webos TV (normally has a horizontal menu of apps depicted in
slightly slanted "bars" at the bottom of the screen), then you can add
the dedicated youtube app there if its not already installed. Note you
can also hide apps you don't want - so it may be that its already
installed, and just not on the list of visible apps. You can use the
edit facility at the end of the application bar to choose what is shown.

Here is a video on adding it from the LG Content store if you need to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhGSBPxqZ2Y

I wouldn't buy another smart TV without testing the interface in a
shop.

Probably also a case of what you get used to. The web os TVs with the
magic remote are quite good IME (you can add a magic remote to many even
if they don't come with one). That lets you use the remote like a mouse
- just point at what you want Wii style.


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John.

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On 29/11/2019 09:23, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Andrew May wrote:

My one complaint is that every time you do a retune because of a change
to the channel line up you lose all your carefully configured favorites
lists.

Indeed you do. I have a spreadsheet which I keep up to date each
time, so recreating the list can be made more efficient.

I also take screen shots of the planned recordings on my tablet,
so I can reprogramme them again afterwards.

Chris

Which is a right PITA when the seem to require a retune every month.

In article ,
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Almost every other day, when the set was switched on, it was suggesting
it needed a retune because new channels had appeared or channel numbers
had changed.

Happens here too - and with different sets.

A minority channel changes its name to say Xmas TV. So the rather dumb TV
says its a new channel. It would be good if it told you what the changes
were so you could decide whether to bother or not.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

brought next idea :
I have exactly the same issues as you- almost daily prompts for retune or
firmware updates, the need to go through a certain confirmatory sequence of
selecting country/region etc.

It does the check on where you are, when it can see channels from more
than one region. Try the same fix as me - a variable antennuator in the
antenna lead. Its only been a few days, but so far no more requests to
retune.

One suggestion is that the LG's front end, is much more sensitive than
it needs to be, so it picks up distant transmitters.

John Rumm formulated on Friday :
The web os TVs with the magic remote are quite good IME (you can add a magic
remote to many even if they don't come with one). That lets you use the
remote like a mouse - just point at what you want Wii style.

My LG didn't come with the magic remote, but I quickly bought one. It
certainly works much better than the more basic one which came with it,
that is apart from the lack of pause, FF, FR, play buttons which are
absent on the magic.

On 29/11/2019 16:57, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
John Rumm formulated on Friday :
The web os TVs with the magic remote are quite good IME (you can add a
magic remote to many even if they don't come with one). That lets you
use the remote like a mouse - just point at what you want Wii style.

My LG didn't come with the magic remote, but I quickly bought one. It
certainly works much better than the more basic one which came with it,
that is apart from the lack of pause, FF, FR, play buttons which are
absent on the magic.

Normally one would point at the on screen pause button etc.

(not actually tried the recording capability on mine it has to be said -
I built a system for network based recording, since all the TV based
systems seem fairly limited)

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John.

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On 29/11/2019 05:41, wrote:
I think that this might be an LG-specific problem.

I bought an LG "smart" TV for the kitchen, a year or so ago. Already had a Samsung smart TV in the lounge. The LG got great reviews online, so I went with it.

I have exactly the same issues as you- almost daily prompts for retune or firmware updates, the need to go through a certain confirmatory sequence of selecting country/region etc. The Samsung needs a retune from time to time, but the LG asks for it far more frequently. I also dislike the interface on the LG, compared to the Samsung (e.g. YouTube is one of the selectable, built in options in the Samsung's main DTV screen, but with the LG, I have to choose the web browser and navigate to www.youtube.com

I wouldn't buy another smart TV without testing the interface in a shop.

Our smart TV's "smart" functions are only ever used to access Netflix or
Channel 5 catch-up; everything else is handled by our OpenVIX satellite box.

In fact, the TV's tuners (DTV and DBS) are never used either.

SteveW

On 28/11/2019 19:16, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
I think, thanks to a suggestion in another forum - I have nailed this..

Almost every other day, when the set was switched on, it was suggesting
it needed a retune because new channels had appeared or channel numbers
had changed.

Soon after I bought the set, a problem occurred with the software, in as
much as the ability to access directly, programs which had been shown
earlier, disappeared - everyone was affected by the issue. I found I
could improve this a little, by installing a variable antenna attenuator.

My local transmitter is Emley Moor, but I can also receive a Tyne Tees
transmitter of the rear of the antenna. Once the software issue was
fixed with an upgrade, I was able to remove the attenuator. Any attempt
to retune would then require me to choose which of the two transmitters
to use.

Since when the set has been troubled by regular requests to be retuned.
In another forum, it was suggested that the weaker transmission might be
varying, such that the channels appear and disappear, each reappearance
prompting a retune.

I have reinstalled the attenuator, tweaked down so the set only sees the
Emley Moor transmitter. So far, it would seem to have fixed the problem.

Maybe someone else is similarly affected?

Yes, happening on mine too. I just press 'No' when it asks to retune.

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Cheers, Rob

On 29/11/2019 09:23, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Andrew May wrote:

My one complaint is that every time you do a retune because of a change
to the channel line up you lose all your carefully configured favorites
lists.

Indeed you do. I have a spreadsheet which I keep up to date each
time, so recreating the list can be made more efficient.

I also take screen shots of the planned recordings on my tablet,
so I can reprogramme them again afterwards.

Yes. It is very odd that terrestrial TV requires frequent retunes and
loses even simple things like timer settings when it is done, yet our
satellite boxes (that replaced our terrestrial boxes) manage to not need
frequent retunes and to retain all the settings, even after a complete
re-install of the software! I have even recently replaced a very old
(from before we had the terrestrial boxes), failing box with a brand new
one of an entirely different make, with different hardware, connected
the old hard-disk and had it re-install the software, the tuning
settings, the UI settings, the timers, etc. from the old set-up - even
retaining the old MAC address, so my DHCP allocation remained the same.

SteveW

On 29/11/19 13:50, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Almost every other day, when the set was switched on, it was suggesting
it needed a retune because new channels had appeared or channel numbers
had changed.

Happens here too - and with different sets.

A minority channel changes its name to say Xmas TV. So the rather dumb TV
says its a new channel. It would be good if it told you what the changes
were so you could decide whether to bother or not.

Check he
https://www.terrestrialtv.uk/dtt.cgi?pg=log.php

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Jeff

RJH presented the following explanation :
Yes, happening on mine too. I just press 'No' when it asks to retune.

There was a genuine need to retune several days ago, PBS (I think)
added a +1 channel to the lineup.

Bedroom TV, which I thought I had retuned not too long ago, wasn't
complaining, but was showing Yesterday on channel 19, instead of the
present 25 - so I retuned last night to bring it into line.