"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
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In message , Fredxx writes




There are two types of Brexiter. One that has existed from the 1970s who
has always hated the idea of EU control over the UK and have always been a
minority. And those more recent converts, who have seen salaries dwindle,
increased demand for housing and an lack of investment in infrastructure,
despite being repeatedly told the economy is doing well.

I actually agree with you entirely. Actually, these people are
well-represented by the callers to LBC.

There is the 'batty old lady' variety (of both sexes) who never really did
like Johnny Foreigner all that much, (even though some might actually own
a second home in France or Spain).

Many of the 'recent converts' justifiably feel deprived and disadvantaged
by the things you mention (and much more). Unfortunately, they rarely seem
to work out WHY things are like they are, and have simply swallowed the
simplistic "It's all the EU's fault" propaganda.

But while the EU rules certainly restrict things like government subsidies
for failing and uncompetitive industries, and nationalisation, one of the
main reasons for such deprivation has simply been successive governments'
policies of economies, cut-backs, austerity, tax reduction (especially
since 2010) and general ineptitude - most of which has been little or
nothing to do with the EU.

It must be particularly galling to be told repeatedly that the economy is
booming, unemployment is at an all-time low, and essentially "We've never
had it so good" - when you know it's mainly a load of lies (at least as
far as you're concerned).

So which particular groups do you claim that is true for ?

I guess you could claim its true for those in industrial ghost towns
with those that refuse to leave those industrial ghost towns but its
hard to see that there are enough of those to matter country wide.

But as I've said many times before, how is leaving the EU really going to
improve matters?

By allowing the UK to be selective about which
EU citizens it chooses to allow to move to the
UK because they are useful to the UK economy.

And by allowing the UK to decide what policy makes
sense with stuff like nationalisation and state subsidies
and those sorts of important policy issues instead of
having to do what some unelected bureaucrat in the
EU has decided is the way it must be done. So the
party that has made that policy choice with stuff like
nationalisation can be given the bums rush at the
next general election instead of being stuck with
it like is the current situation with EU policy.

If you can forget this so easily, I would suggest a visit to the doctors
and tests for dementia.

On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 01:44:26 +1100, Chang, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

FLUSH the nym-shifting trolling senile asshole's latest troll****

01:44 in Australia? AGAIN??? And you are up and trolling ALREADY? Just what
the **** is WRONG with you, you clinically insane senile cretin? Oh, yeah, I
just provided the answer: you ARE clinically insane!

--
FredXX to Rot Speed:
"You are still an idiot and an embarrassment to your country. No wonder
we shipped the likes of you out of the British Isles. Perhaps stupidity
and criminality is inherited after all?"
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