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My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had
his stolen. Some locks are available but they assume the toe-rag is going to unbolt them and not brutally attack the exhaust. Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? |
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John presented the following explanation :
Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? A 20Kv PD between car's body and the ground? |
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On 22/08/2019 09:19, John wrote:
My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had his stolen. Some locks are available but they assume the toe-rag is going to unbolt them and not brutally attack the exhaust. Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? I cant believe people do that...do they jack the car up? |
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On 22/08/2019 09:27, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
John presented the following explanation : Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? A 20Kv PD between car's body and the ground? tee hee |
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in news:fOs7F.191444
: On 22/08/2019 09:19, John wrote: My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had his stolen. Some locks are available but they assume the toe-rag is going to unbolt them and not brutally attack the exhaust. Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? I cant believe people do that...do they jack the car up? They shuffle under - they don't mind getting dirty or having proper tools - 2 mins is the usual time. |
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On 22/08/2019 09:27, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
John presented the following explanation : Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? A 20Kv PD between car's body and the ground? tricky to isolate the converter - necessary now tyres conduct well enough to prevent large static differences? -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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"John" wrote in message 2.236... "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in news:fOs7F.191444 : On 22/08/2019 09:19, John wrote: My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had his stolen. Some locks are available but they assume the toe-rag is going to unbolt them and not brutally attack the exhaust. Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? I cant believe people do that...do they jack the car up? They shuffle under - they don't mind getting dirty or having proper tools - 2 mins is the usual time. good god |
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John wrote:
My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had his stolen. Some locks are available but they assume the toe-rag is going to unbolt them and not brutally attack the exhaust. Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? Unfortunately we now live in the age of the battery-powered angle-grinder. Im not sure how easy it is to make anything proof against these. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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In article ,
Jethro_uk wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 08:19:11 +0000, John wrote: My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had his stolen. Some locks are available but they assume the toe-rag is going to unbolt them and not brutally attack the exhaust. Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? Was it stolen as a part, or for metal ? I thought metal theft was a thing of the past, as "they've done something about it" ? And the thieving *******s who nick it (and the people who deal with them) have "done something about what the authorities had done about it". In other words: metal theft still goes on, big time, same people (if you can call them that), same channels. I was amazed, and distraught, last month to be visiting a tiny church hidden in the hills of the Borders, to be told that lead still gets stolen from the roof every now and again. John |
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In article 6,
John wrote: My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had his stolen. What I'd like to know, John, is what sort of car(s), and in what region do you live? I thought cats (cars' cats) had not been a target for a long time, now. John |
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On 22/08/2019 09:19, John wrote:
My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had his stolen. Some locks are available but they assume the toe-rag is going to unbolt them and not brutally attack the exhaust. Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? My neighbour, ex MOT tester and garage owner says only the OEM cats are worth any money to the trade, while the after market ones are not worth stealing. |
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On 22/08/2019 10:08, John wrote:
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in news:fOs7F.191444 : On 22/08/2019 09:19, John wrote: My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had his stolen. Some locks are available but they assume the toe-rag is going to unbolt them and not brutally attack the exhaust. Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? I cant believe people do that...do they jack the car up? They shuffle under - they don't mind getting dirty or having proper tools - 2 mins is the usual time. SUV/ crossovers have a lot more ground clearance, as do vans. Something like a citroen DS would defeat them. |
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On 22/08/2019 12:28, Another John wrote:
In article , Jethro_uk wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 08:19:11 +0000, John wrote: My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had his stolen. Some locks are available but they assume the toe-rag is going to unbolt them and not brutally attack the exhaust. Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? Was it stolen as a part, or for metal ? I thought metal theft was a thing of the past, as "they've done something about it" ? And the thieving *******s who nick it (and the people who deal with them) have "done something about what the authorities had done about it". In other words: metal theft still goes on, big time, same people (if you can call them that), same channels. I was amazed, and distraught, last month to be visiting a tiny church hidden in the hills of the Borders, to be told that lead still gets stolen from the roof every now and again. John The insurance co that covers churches insists on proper lead as a replacement. |
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On 22/08/2019 12:30, Another John wrote:
In article 6, John wrote: My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had his stolen. What I'd like to know, John, is what sort of car(s), and in what region do you live? I thought cats (cars' cats) had not been a target for a long time, now. John Older OEM cats still have valuable metal content. |
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On 22/08/2019 09:19, John wrote:
My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had his stolen. Some locks are available but they assume the toe-rag is going to unbolt them and not brutally attack the exhaust. Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? Local gravedigger left his tranny van overnight at a remote church and the next day the pikeys had ripped open the bonnet and nicked the battery. They just peeled the bonnet up on one side. they were probably scouting the church for other metals to take. |
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On 22/08/2019 12:28, Another John wrote:
I was amazed, and distraught, last month to be visiting a tiny church hidden in the hills of the Borders, to be told that lead still gets stolen from the roof every now and again. Shows their God isn't as powerful as He once was. -- Max Demian |
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 14:15:31 +0100, Andrew
wrote: On 22/08/2019 09:19, John wrote: My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had his stolen. Some locks are available but they assume the toe-rag is going to unbolt them and not brutally attack the exhaust. Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? My neighbour, ex MOT tester and garage owner says only the OEM cats are worth any money to the trade, while the after market ones are not worth stealing. Also there are ceramic and precious metal types and places on the net you can access (apparently) that lists those vehicles that have the ones worth having. Cheers, T i m |
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On 22/08/2019 09:57, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 22/08/2019 09:19, John wrote: My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had his stolen. Some locks are available but they assume the toe-rag is going to unbolt them and not brutally attack the exhaust. Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? I cant believe people do that...do they jack the car up? Standard MO is smallish child underneath with battery powered angle grinder. There was a spate of it nearby a couple of years back. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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On 22/08/2019 14:15, Andrew wrote:
On 22/08/2019 09:19, John wrote: My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had his stolen. Some locks are available but they assume the toe-rag is going to unbolt them and not brutally attack the exhaust. Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? My neighbour, ex MOT tester and garage owner says only the OEM cats are worth any money to the trade, while the after market ones are not worth stealing. Is that after market dummy cats like they sell on ebay, they aren't even cats in the first place. maybe like https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200CPI-SP...1/150890183850 "we are unable to guarantee you will pass the MOT if you fit this". |
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On 22/08/2019 14:18, Andrew wrote:
On 22/08/2019 12:28, Another John wrote: In article , Â* Jethro_uk wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 08:19:11 +0000, John wrote: My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had his stolen. Some locks are available but they assume the toe-rag is going to unbolt them and not brutally attack the exhaust. Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? Was it stolen as a part, or for metal ? I thought metal theft was a thing of the past, as "they've done something about it" ? And the thieving *******s who nick it (and the people who deal with them) have "done something about what the authorities had done about it". In other words: metal theft still goes on, big time, same people (if you can call them that), same channels. It is surprising that it still goes on but sadly it does. Smart water seems to act only as a moderate discouragement. I was amazed, and distraught, last month to be visiting a tiny church hidden in the hills of the Borders, to be told that lead still gets stolen from the roof every now and again. The insurance co that covers churches insists on proper lead as a replacement. I was told very recently by someone in the know that the insurers and listed building people are now prepared to accept a resilient non-lead substitute although they didn't say what it was. They figure that the damage to the building by repeated tearing lead off the valleys and ingress of water can be mitigated by not having valuable lead on it. It remains to be seen how well or if this works out. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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20000 v on them when parked?
Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "John" wrote in message 2.236... My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had his stolen. Some locks are available but they assume the toe-rag is going to unbolt them and not brutally attack the exhaust. Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? |
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On 22/08/2019 09:19, John wrote:
Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? Buy a sports car. No room underneath for even a child. Or something old enough not to need one! Andy |
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Brian Gaff wrote
20000 v on them when parked? Likely to end with keyed body panels very quickly indeed. Much more expensive to fix than a new cat converter. "John" wrote in message 2.236... My daughter had hers stolen back in March and a good friend has just had his stolen. Some locks are available but they assume the toe-rag is going to unbolt them and not brutally attack the exhaust. Any ideas for making them tamper-proof - ideally with potential to cause injury to the scroats? |
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On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 07:23:23 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Likely to end with keyed body panels very quickly indeed. Much more expensive to fix than a new cat converter. Oh, ****! ...and this thread was Rodent-free, so far! tsk -- Sqwertz to Rot Speed: "This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative asshole. MID: |
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On 22/08/2019 11:17, Jethro_uk wrote:
I thought metal theft was a thing of the past, as "they've done something about it" ? Metal thieves have always had a market for their ill gotten gains - and still have. As with most legislation of this type, all it has done is inconvenience law abiding people. Often the problem with this type of crime is that the thieves have an inflated idea of the scrap value. The media will report that thousands of GBP of cable has been stolen where in the real world this is the actual cost of replacement where labour and equipment costs far exceed the cost the item. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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