Hi

I'm building a softwood conservatory and want to use double glazed
units for the roof.

the question is ....

how do I constuct it so that the roof units are covered all around the
seal and prevent slippage of the units. I'm referring to the bottom
edge of the units that overhang the guttering.

???

Flashing ? Joinery ?

Any thoughts appreciated.

"Nicholas" wrote in message
...
Hi

I'm building a softwood conservatory and want to use double glazed
units for the roof.

the question is ....

how do I constuct it so that the roof units are covered all around the
seal and prevent slippage of the units. I'm referring to the bottom
edge of the units that overhang the guttering.

???

Flashing ? Joinery ?

Any thoughts appreciated.


What are you using as a seal between the glass and the timber frame ? Are
you using routed timber joists and clips ? What type of glass are you using
? Are you aware that there are regulations in force, that actually specify
the type of glass used for this type of construction ? Do you know that
drainage of surface water also comes under regulation ? What type of
foundation is the structure standing on ? Is the glass supporting any of
the weight of the structure or is the timber the only solid support with the
glass being suspended from it ?

Need more input as to what you are actually thinking of doing, as there are
so many types and techniques for this kind of structure.

If it is polycarbonate then I used retaining clips at the bottom, they were
screwed to the wood and pointed upright so holding the sheeting which had a
sealing strip along the bottom edge. Even with this there was quite a bit
of expansion and contraction and over time the sealing strips distorted.
Also the sheets pulled away a little from the wall at the top end so yearly
I had to check the flashing.
"Nicholas" wrote in message
...
Hi

I'm building a softwood conservatory and want to use double glazed
units for the roof.

the question is ....

how do I constuct it so that the roof units are covered all around the
seal and prevent slippage of the units. I'm referring to the bottom
edge of the units that overhang the guttering.

???

Flashing ? Joinery ?

Any thoughts appreciated.

What are you using as a seal between the glass and the timber frame ?

EPDM - sealed unit - EPDM with hardwood capping screwed through to
the joists

What type of glass are you using?

4-10-4 hardened both sides

Are you aware that there are regulations in force, that actually specify
the type of glass used for this type of construction ? Do you know that
drainage of surface water also comes under regulation ? What type of
foundation is the structure standing on ?

Yes
Yes
Concrete Footings

Is the glass supporting any of
the weight of the structure or is the timber the only solid support with the
glass being suspended from it ?

Glass sits on top of 6x3 joists.

Attached is a rough diagram of the problem area

Any ideas?

TIA

Nicholas


On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 23:46:38 GMT, "BigWallop"
wrote:


"Nicholas" wrote in message
.. .
Hi

I'm building a softwood conservatory and want to use double glazed
units for the roof.

the question is ....

how do I constuct it so that the roof units are covered all around the
seal and prevent slippage of the units. I'm referring to the bottom
edge of the units that overhang the guttering.

???

Flashing ? Joinery ?

Any thoughts appreciated.


What are you using as a seal between the glass and the timber frame ? Are
you using routed timber joists and clips ? What type of glass are you using
? Are you aware that there are regulations in force, that actually specify
the type of glass used for this type of construction ? Do you know that
drainage of surface water also comes under regulation ? What type of
foundation is the structure standing on ? Is the glass supporting any of
the weight of the structure or is the timber the only solid support with the
glass being suspended from it ?

Need more input as to what you are actually thinking of doing, as there are
so many types and techniques for this kind of structure.

"Nicholas" wrote in message
...
What are you using as a seal between the glass and the timber frame ?

EPDM - sealed unit - EPDM with hardwood capping screwed through to
the joists

What type of glass are you using?

4-10-4 hardened both sides

Are you aware that there are regulations in force, that actually specify
the type of glass used for this type of construction ? Do you know that
drainage of surface water also comes under regulation ? What type of
foundation is the structure standing on ?

Yes
Yes
Concrete Footings

Is the glass supporting any of
the weight of the structure or is the timber the only solid support with
the
glass being suspended from it ?

Glass sits on top of 6x3 joists.

Attached is a rough diagram of the problem area

Any ideas?

TIA

Nicholas


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So the whole thing is supported on its own. Great.

If you're putting hardwood ridge timbers along the seams of the glass, then
a smear of sealant will act as a glue to hold the units in place and then
the ridge timbers cover the edges. You could fit small blocks of timber at
the bottoms of the joists to sit the corners of the glass against.
Alternatively, a length of quarter round timber along the horizontal support
with a squirt of sealant between will also keep the glass units in place.
The ridge timbers will then allow any surface water to flow off over the
top. Remember to allow for expansion on all the seams by using a flexible
sealant solution.


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Nicholas wrote:
Attached is a rough diagram of the problem area

Oh no there isn't. Most ISPs won't accept pics to a newsgroup. Put it on a
website and post the URL.

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Did a bit of surfing and came up with another solution.

the top pane of glass on the units is 65mm longer than the bottom pane
(and spacer bar) ...forming a drip. the bottom pane and spacer bar
then sit into a groove/rebate in the ring beam thereby holding the
unit in place preventing slippage.

how does that sound to you?

only problem I can forsee is that the spacer bar is exposed to UV.
this could be got round possibly by sticking on a flat covering
(plastic?) which would allow for water runoff

TIA

Nicholas


On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:09:33 GMT, "BigWallop"
wrote:


"Nicholas" wrote in message
.. .
What are you using as a seal between the glass and the timber frame ?

EPDM - sealed unit - EPDM with hardwood capping screwed through to
the joists

What type of glass are you using?

4-10-4 hardened both sides

Are you aware that there are regulations in force, that actually specify
the type of glass used for this type of construction ? Do you know that
drainage of surface water also comes under regulation ? What type of
foundation is the structure standing on ?

Yes
Yes
Concrete Footings

Is the glass supporting any of
the weight of the structure or is the timber the only solid support with
the
glass being suspended from it ?

Glass sits on top of 6x3 joists.

Attached is a rough diagram of the problem area

Any ideas?

TIA

Nicholas


snipped

So the whole thing is supported on its own. Great.

If you're putting hardwood ridge timbers along the seams of the glass, then
a smear of sealant will act as a glue to hold the units in place and then
the ridge timbers cover the edges. You could fit small blocks of timber at
the bottoms of the joists to sit the corners of the glass against.
Alternatively, a length of quarter round timber along the horizontal support
with a squirt of sealant between will also keep the glass units in place.
The ridge timbers will then allow any surface water to flow off over the
top. Remember to allow for expansion on all the seams by using a flexible
sealant solution.


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