Some ten years ago i lashed out on wooden fence. Although the upright
panes have weather well (something like a cedar wood i guess) the
horizontal rails (25 x 40 mm cross section ) are completely rotten and
breaking up.
I've bought a lot of treated roof battens 25cm x38cm to replace the
horizontal rails.
Since there are literally hundreds and hundreds of fixing each pane to
the rails and feel that staples are likely too easy to come adrift?

What is the best way of fixing them? small nails? if so, what kind
should i get, or small screws of some kind of weatherproof ones ?

Thanks for any advice on the most painless way of doing so very many
fixings.

On 12/04/2019 19:16, john west wrote:
Some ten years ago i lashed out on wooden fence. Although the upright
panes have weather well (something like a cedar wood i guess) the
horizontal rails (25 x 40 mm cross section ) are completely rotten and
breaking up.
I've bought a lot of treated roof battens 25cm x38cm to replace the
horizontal rails.
Since there are literally hundreds and hundreds of fixing each pane to
the rails and feel that staples are likely too easy to come adrift?

What is the best way of fixing them? small nails? if so, what kind
should i get, or small screws of some kind of weatherproof ones ?

Thanks for any advice on the most painless way of doing so very many
fixings.

It rather depends on the dimensions of the uprights. If they are feather
edge, they are probably thin enough for a stapler to be fine although a
powered one would be best.

On Friday, 12 April 2019 19:16:24 UTC+1, john west wrote:
Some ten years ago i lashed out on wooden fence. Although the upright
panes have weather well (something like a cedar wood i guess) the
horizontal rails (25 x 40 mm cross section ) are completely rotten and
breaking up.
I've bought a lot of treated roof battens 25cm x38cm to replace the
horizontal rails.
Since there are literally hundreds and hundreds of fixing each pane to
the rails and feel that staples are likely too easy to come adrift?

What is the best way of fixing them? small nails? if so, what kind
should i get, or small screws of some kind of weatherproof ones ?

Thanks for any advice on the most painless way of doing so very many
fixings.

The answer o that is always a nailgun, but they're not cheap and have poor pullout resistance compared to screws.


NT

Well you mean you want to keep the old boards?
I think in your position if they all needed replacing I'd go the whole hog
and buy finished panels.
Brian

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Some ten years ago i lashed out on wooden fence. Although the upright
panes have weather well (something like a cedar wood i guess) the
horizontal rails (25 x 40 mm cross section ) are completely rotten and
breaking up.
I've bought a lot of treated roof battens 25cm x38cm to replace the
horizontal rails.
Since there are literally hundreds and hundreds of fixing each pane to the
rails and feel that staples are likely too easy to come adrift?

What is the best way of fixing them? small nails? if so, what kind should
i get, or small screws of some kind of weatherproof ones ?

Thanks for any advice on the most painless way of doing so very many
fixings.

On 13/04/2019 11:21, Brian Gaff wrote:
Well you mean you want to keep the old boards?
I think in your position if they all needed replacing I'd go the whole hog
and buy finished panels.
Brian


Brian, he's already bought the battens to fix them with. So, he's after
a solution that uses the battens, regardless of whether that's a good
idea, or not.



To the OP: Lidl do a drywall screw fixing gun that automatically drives
screws. Only £30, IIRC, but you'll have to wait until they stock it.
That's a lot, lot cheaper than a nailer with comparable fixing power.

The screws will probably rust after a while, but that just adds to their
fixing power, and a bit of rust adds to the patina of the fence. Drywall
screws are treated, but I think that won't last in 'weather'.

On 13/04/2019 11:49, GB wrote:
On 13/04/2019 11:21, Brian Gaff wrote:
Well you mean you want to keep the old boards?
Â* I think in your position if they all needed replacing I'd go the
whole hog
and buy finished panels.
Â* Brian


Brian, he's already bought the battens to fix them with. So, he's after
a solution that uses the battens, regardless of whether that's a good
idea, or not.



To the OP: Lidl do a drywall screw fixing gun that automatically drives
screws. Only £30, IIRC, but you'll have to wait until they stock it.
That's a lot, lot cheaper than a nailer with comparable fixing power.

The screws will probably rust after a while, but that just adds to their
fixing power, and a bit of rust adds to the patina of the fence. Drywall
screws are treated, but I think that won't last in 'weather'.




I must confess I always build feather edge on triangular rail fences
with screws. A bit more expensive but even without a collated driver
it's quicker than nailing and easier to adjust.

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On 13/04/2019 11:49, GB wrote:
On 13/04/2019 11:21, Brian Gaff wrote:
Well you mean you want to keep the old boards?
I think in your position if they all needed replacing I'd go the
whole hog
and buy finished panels.
Brian


Brian, he's already bought the battens to fix them with. So, he's after
a solution that uses the battens, regardless of whether that's a good
idea, or not.



To the OP: Lidl do a drywall screw fixing gun that automatically drives
screws. Only £30, IIRC, but you'll have to wait until they stock it.
That's a lot, lot cheaper than a nailer with comparable fixing power.

The screws will probably rust after a while, but that just adds to their
fixing power, and a bit of rust adds to the patina of the fence. Drywall
screws are treated, but I think that won't last in 'weather'.




I must confess I always build feather edge on triangular rail fences
with screws.

How many do you build?

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On 12/04/2019 19:16, john west wrote:
Some ten years ago i lashed out on wooden fence. Although the upright
panes have weather well (something like a cedar wood i guess) the
horizontal rails (25 x 40 mm cross section ) are completely rotten and
breaking up.
I've bought a lot of treated roof battens 25cm x38cm to replace the
horizontal rails.
Since there are literally hundreds and hundreds of fixing each pane to
the rails and feel that staples are likely too easy to come adrift?

What is the best way of fixing them? small nails? if so, what kind
should i get, or small screws of some kind of weatherproof ones ?

Thanks for any advice on the most painless way of doing so very many
fixings.

I bought a box of 200 Ulti-Mate II "High Performance Wood Screws" from
my local Countrystore for about £5. They came with a screwdriver bit
which gripped the cross head. I used an impact driver I bought for £16
when Homebase changed hands.

I put the screw on the bit and the fact that the bit held it and the
impact action of the drill made the job easy. It helped that my wife
held the palings.

Very proud of the result and it's survived the winter gales (it's very
exposed where we are) so job done.

Another Dave

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On 12/04/2019 19:16, john west wrote:

Some ten years ago i lashed out on wooden fence. ...
... rails are completely rotten and
breaking up.....

Urine can encouraged rot, but if you only ****ed on it once ten years
ago you really shouldn't blame yourself. We've all felt the need to mark
out our territory in the garden from time to time.

TW