I spotted an item I thought to maybe buy, so requested more information
via there web form. No reply so I emailed the via their sales email
address, still no reply, so I looked a little deeper.

Both of their listed addresses are the addresses of homes on ordinary
streets, rather than any commercial address.

http://www.plumbdepot.co.uk/contact-us

Harry Bloomfield submitted this idea :
I spotted an item I thought to maybe buy, so requested more information via
there web form. No reply so I emailed the via their sales email address,
still no reply, so I looked a little deeper.

Both of their listed addresses are the addresses of homes on ordinary
streets, rather than any commercial address.

http://www.plumbdepot.co.uk/contact-us

The more you dig, the more suspicious it seems, despite the apparent
quality of the web site design.

On 06/02/2019 12:10, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
I spotted an item I thought to maybe buy, so requested more information
via there web form. No reply so I emailed the via their sales email
address, still no reply, so I looked a little deeper.

Both of their listed addresses are the addresses of homes on ordinary
streets, rather than any commercial address.

http://www.plumbdepot.co.uk/contact-us

Plenty of small businesses work from home.

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Nightjar wrote on 06/02/2019 :
Plenty of small businesses work from home.


Yes, but this one is claiming to be a rather big business and
suggesting it takes card payments. Check the about page as to how big
they suggest they are... None of it is backed up by facts, or is
traceable to actual companies that I could find.

On Wednesday, 6 February 2019 13:08:31 UTC, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Nightjar wrote on 06/02/2019 :
Plenty of small businesses work from home.


Yes, but this one is claiming to be a rather big business and
suggesting it takes card payments. Check the about page as to how big
they suggest they are... None of it is backed up by facts, or is
traceable to actual companies that I could find.

I keep getting error 503 service unavailable. It's perfectly possible that someone is working from home + garage or lock-up.


NT

Harry Bloomfield wrote:

Harry Bloomfield submitted this idea :

http://www.plumbdepot.co.uk/contact-us

The more you dig, the more suspicious it seems, despite the apparent
quality of the web site design.

Their "umbrella" organisation williamsharp.net does appear to have lost
its website, they've been trading for 10 years according to companies
house, rumbling along with few assets and some debt.

They might be plumbers themselves, working from home, who treat selling
on a few products from suppliers they deal with anyway as more strings
to their bow, possible drop-shipped so they never see the products or
keep any stock ... not necessarily dodgy.

On 06/02/2019 13:08, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Nightjar wrote on 06/02/2019 :
Plenty of small businesses work from home.


Yes, but this one is claiming to be a rather big business and suggesting
it takes card payments. Check the about page as to how big they suggest
they are... None of it is backed up by facts, or is traceable to actual
companies that I could find.

I haven't spotted where it claims to be a big business.

The site says it's a brand of William Sharp Ltd. That company exists
but is micro:

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...filing-history

Possibly just a website which orders the goods from suppliers as and
when customers order from them (him?).

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It might be what's called a registered address, often this is the company's solicitor but not unknown for a private address to be registered and not unusual for several companies to share the same address. I have never known the reason for having a registered address but perhaps someone might enlighten us.

Richard

On 06/02/2019 12:17, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Harry Bloomfield submitted this idea :
I spotted an item I thought to maybe buy, so requested more
information via there web form. No reply so I emailed the via their
sales email address, still no reply, so I looked a little deeper.

Both of their listed addresses are the addresses of homes on ordinary
streets, rather than any commercial address.

http://www.plumbdepot.co.uk/contact-us

The more you dig, the more suspicious it seems, despite the apparent
quality of the web site design.

From the T&Cs:

"The Plumb Depot and Parts Depot websites are trade only websites: by
registering you confirm that you consider yourself to be a business or
acting on behalf of a business and therefore you will not be covered by
any contract law that relates to retailers and their customers. Distance
Selling Regulations will not apply. Under law, wholesalers and resellers
are expected to negotiate their own terms and conditions. The following
Terms and Conditions set out the trading arrangements with William Sharp
Ltd."

Is that allowed? Does one get consumer rights because one is a consumer
or because one claims to be?

On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 13:40:12 +0000, Andrew May
wrote:

On 06/02/2019 12:17, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Harry Bloomfield submitted this idea :
I spotted an item I thought to maybe buy, so requested more
information via there web form. No reply so I emailed the via their
sales email address, still no reply, so I looked a little deeper.

Both of their listed addresses are the addresses of homes on ordinary
streets, rather than any commercial address.

http://www.plumbdepot.co.uk/contact-us

The more you dig, the more suspicious it seems, despite the apparent
quality of the web site design.

From the T&Cs:

"The Plumb Depot and Parts Depot websites are trade only websites: by
registering you confirm that you consider yourself to be a business or
acting on behalf of a business and therefore you will not be covered by
any contract law that relates to retailers and their customers. Distance
Selling Regulations will not apply. Under law, wholesalers and resellers
are expected to negotiate their own terms and conditions. The following
Terms and Conditions set out the trading arrangements with William Sharp
Ltd."

Is that allowed? Does one get consumer rights because one is a consumer
or because one claims to be?

It is legal for a company to trade on Business to Business terms as
long as they make that perfectly clear. If someone who is not a
business specifically says they are a business in order to deal with
such a company they can't really expect to be able to claim later that
they were really a private individual.

Trading on B2B terms is far from unusual. However, it can't be used
to deceive, so someone patently trading Business to Consumer (B2C)
can't later claim it was really B2B.

On 06/02/2019 13:08, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Nightjar wrote on 06/02/2019 :
Plenty of small businesses work from home.


Yes, but this one is claiming to be a rather big business and suggesting
it takes card payments. Check the about page as to how big they suggest
they are... None of it is backed up by facts, or is traceable to actual
companies that I could find.

I've known a one man business in a cowshed that took card payments


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On 06/02/2019 13:34, Tricky Dicky wrote:
It might be what's called a registered address, often this is the
company's solicitor but not unknown for a private address to be
registered and not unusual for several companies to share the same
address. I have never known the reason for having a registered
address but perhaps someone might enlighten us.


Mine is my accountant. Its where official documents relating to the
legal status of the company go. He has about 50 companies using it as
their registered address.

Mostly tax and companies house ****.

Richard



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On 06/02/2019 13:34, Tricky Dicky wrote:
It might be what's called a registered address, often this is the company's solicitor but not unknown for a private address to be registered and not unusual for several companies to share the same address. I have never known the reason for having a registered address but perhaps someone might enlighten us.

Richard


It is a statutory requirement for any limited company to have a
registered address. Many use that of their accountant or solicitor.

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Colin Bignell

On 06/02/2019 13:08, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Nightjar wrote on 06/02/2019 :
Plenty of small businesses work from home.


Yes, but this one is claiming to be a rather big business and suggesting
it takes card payments. Check the about page as to how big they suggest
they are... None of it is backed up by facts, or is traceable to actual
companies that I could find.

They say they have a lot of web sites, but I don't see any specific
claims to being a large business. I work from home, on my own, and take
card payments. The card machine is a few feet from where I am sitting now.

If you check the company number at Companies House, it shows it to be
William Sharp Ltd, which is mentioned on the site, and they have been
trading since 2010. Doing an internet search on the post code throws up
a couple of other businesses operating from one of the neighbouring
properties at 2 Thistle Road.

I wouldn't consider there to be anything inherently suspicious about the
company, but if you are worried, don't buy from them. Use somebody with
an e-commerce site with payments going through somebody like Sage Pay or
one of the really big name companies.

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Colin Bignell

Nightjar Wrote in message:
On 06/02/2019 13:08, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Nightjar wrote on 06/02/2019 :
Plenty of small businesses work from home.


Yes, but this one is claiming to be a rather big business and suggesting
it takes card payments. Check the about page as to how big they suggest
they are... None of it is backed up by facts, or is traceable to actual
companies that I could find.

They say they have a lot of web sites, but I don't see any specific
claims to being a large business. I work from home, on my own, and take
card payments. The card machine is a few feet from where I am sitting now.

OOI how much does your card machine work out at?
Is it a % off the top of each sale or a monthly fee & smaller %
arrangement? Or something else?

TIA

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Somebody who bought up a load of bankrupt stuff at an auction and his wife
wants her garage back?
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"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
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I spotted an item I thought to maybe buy, so requested more information via
there web form. No reply so I emailed the via their sales email address,
still no reply, so I looked a little deeper.

Both of their listed addresses are the addresses of homes on ordinary
streets, rather than any commercial address.

http://www.plumbdepot.co.uk/contact-us

Well they want to get an edge over 5G.
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"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
...
I spotted an item I thought to maybe buy, so requested more information via
there web form. No reply so I emailed the via their sales email address,
still no reply, so I looked a little deeper.

Both of their listed addresses are the addresses of homes on ordinary
streets, rather than any commercial address.

http://www.plumbdepot.co.uk/contact-us

On 06/02/2019 17:18, Jim K.. wrote:
Nightjar Wrote in message:
On 06/02/2019 13:08, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Nightjar wrote on 06/02/2019 :
Plenty of small businesses work from home.


Yes, but this one is claiming to be a rather big business and suggesting
it takes card payments. Check the about page as to how big they suggest
they are... None of it is backed up by facts, or is traceable to actual
companies that I could find.

They say they have a lot of web sites, but I don't see any specific
claims to being a large business. I work from home, on my own, and take
card payments. The card machine is a few feet from where I am sitting now.

OOI how much does your card machine work out at?
Is it a % off the top of each sale or a monthly fee & smaller %
arrangement? Or something else?

A percentage of every credit card transaction and a flat fee per debit
card transaction. I don't recall the exact amounts though.


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"Andrew May" wrote in message
...
On 06/02/2019 12:17, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Harry Bloomfield submitted this idea :
I spotted an item I thought to maybe buy, so requested more information
via there web form. No reply so I emailed the via their sales email
address, still no reply, so I looked a little deeper.

Both of their listed addresses are the addresses of homes on ordinary
streets, rather than any commercial address.

http://www.plumbdepot.co.uk/contact-us

The more you dig, the more suspicious it seems, despite the apparent
quality of the web site design.

From the T&Cs:

"The Plumb Depot and Parts Depot websites are trade only websites: by
registering you confirm that you consider yourself to be a business or
acting on behalf of a business and therefore you will not be covered by
any contract law that relates to retailers and their customers. Distance
Selling Regulations will not apply. Under law, wholesalers and resellers
are expected to negotiate their own terms and conditions. The following
Terms and Conditions set out the trading arrangements with William Sharp
Ltd."

Is that allowed?

Yes, the law does make that distinction.

Does one get consumer rights because one is a consumer

Yes. But they don't deal with consumers, they are trade only.

or because one claims to be?

On 06/02/2019 19:10, Nightjar wrote:
On 06/02/2019 17:18, Jim K.. wrote:
Nightjar Wrote in message:
On 06/02/2019 13:08, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Nightjar wrote on 06/02/2019 :
Plenty of small businesses work from home.


Yes, but this one is claiming to be a rather big business and
suggesting
it takes card payments. Check the about page as to how big they suggest
they are... None of it is backed up by facts, or is traceable to actual
companies that I could find.

They say they have a lot of web sites, but I don't see any specific
claims to being a large business. I work from home, on my own, and take
card payments. The card machine is a few feet from where I am sitting
now.

OOI how much does your card machine work out at?
Is it a % off the top of each sale or a monthly fee & smaller %
Â* arrangement? Or something else?

A percentage of every credit card transaction and a flat fee per debit
card transaction. I don't recall the exact amounts though.


ISTR that there is also a minimum monthly charge, if the transaction
fees don't reach that much (which doesn't affect me) and a small monthly
fee for a security audit.

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On 07/02/2019 14:46, Jim K.. wrote:

Interesting thanks.

Looking at izettle as part of a project - flat 1.75% per
transaction, no contract. Card readers need buying though, Their
introductory"reader 2" does contactless and is only 19+vat on
offer...

Looks like a fair price.
At least you know exactly what you're going to pay for each transaction
regardless of whether its credit/debit/commercial/premium etc "payment
roulette" we play.

On 06/02/2019 13:34, Tricky Dicky wrote:
It might be what's called a registered address, often this is the company's solicitor but not unknown for a private address to be registered and not unusual for several companies to share the same address. I have never known the reason for having a registered address but perhaps someone might enlighten us.


It is where official documents are sent or, more formally where legal
notices are served.


Richard



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