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On 01/02/2019 10:30, Bob Eager wrote:

I know the Darwin family quite well because one of the University of
Kent Colleges is named after Charles Darwin.


That needs further explanation.


In what way? What do you need?
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On Friday, 1 February 2019 15:59:17 UTC, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 13:38:18 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

On 01/02/2019 10:30, Bob Eager wrote:

I know the Darwin family quite well because one of the University of
Kent Colleges is named after Charles Darwin.


That needs further explanation.


In what way? What do you need?


Maybe he means....

I work at Queen Mary college but I don't know much about her and never met her and anything I could find out might not all be true anyway.

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On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 08:03:49 -0800, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 1 February 2019 15:59:17 UTC, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 13:38:18 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

On 01/02/2019 10:30, Bob Eager wrote:

I know the Darwin family quite well because one of the University of
Kent Colleges is named after Charles Darwin.

That needs further explanation.


In what way? What do you need?


Maybe he means....

I work at Queen Mary college but I don't know much about her and never
met her and anything I could find out might not all be true anyway.


I have met and dined with many of the direct descendants of Charles
Darwin. Nice people, very interesting and frighteningly clever as well as
practical.



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On 01/02/2019 13:20, Graham. wrote:
On 01/02/2019 08:46, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Brian Gaff presented the following explanation :
One thing that has always interested me is the fact that many
shortwave stations even today, give the frequencies in Khz, but the
band in metres.
*Now I used to know the conversion by heart when I could see, but over
the years its kind of faded, but I know it contains the speed of light
in metres per second.

metres =*** 299792.458/ kHz

kHz =* 299792.458/ metres


...in a vacuum. I await with interest the essay on the conversion
factor for BBC long wave from Droitwich


Aren't the pips deliberately retarded so they are accurately received
100 miles away? Perfect for Lon^H^H^HSalford.




Always if they travel by DAB :-).

PS How come the midnight news on R4 is still introduced by the
Big Ben Bongs, together with its preamble. ?.

Are the BBC transmitting fake chimes while it is silenced ?.
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On 2/1/2019 10:58 AM, Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:32:57 -0500, S Viemeister wrote:

Watching the Eddie Izzard film on the development of radar, I was
surprised that they used 'megahertz' rather than 'megacycle'. Was this
usage accurate for the period?


The same film apparently has a plug being wired with brown/blue/gren-and-
yellow flex.

I missed that! I should watch again, to see if there's anything else...


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On 01/02/2019 12:42, Another Dave wrote:
On 01/02/2019 09:23, Scott wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 08:46:54 GMT, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:

Brian Gaff presented the following explanation :
One thing that has always interested me is the fact that many shortwave
stations even today, give the frequencies in Khz, but the band in
metres.
* Now I used to know the conversion by heart when I could see, but
over the
years its kind of faded, but I know it contains the speed of light
in metres
per second.

metres =*** 299792.458/ kHz

kHz =* 299792.458/ metres


I thought it was 300,000.* The teaching at my school must have been a
bit rubbish!

There has been talk of redefining the metre so the speed of light in
vacuo is precisely that. Since the metre isn't 1/10,000,000th the
distance from the equator to the pole as intended, it shouldn't offend
anybody. I suppose too much inertia has now made the change impossible.


3*10^8 isn't all that 'rational' as it has a 3 in it. Why not redefine
the foot so that c is 10^9 ft/s?

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On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:32:57 -0500, S Viemeister wrote:

Watching the Eddie Izzard film on the development of radar, I was
surprised that they used 'megahertz' rather than 'megacycle'. Was this
usage accurate for the period?


The same film apparently has a plug being wired with
brown/blue/gren-and- yellow flex.

I missed that! I should watch again, to see if there's anything else...


a Routemaster?

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On 01/02/2019 12:34, Fredxx wrote:
On 01/02/2019 12:24:36, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:32:57 -0500, S Viemeister wrote:

Watching the Eddie Izzard film on the development of radar, I was
surprised that they used 'megahertz' rather than 'megacycle'. Was this
usage accurate for the period?


Not quite as specialist, but cropped up in chat a few days ago, is when
did Centigrade become Celcius in the UK ? Because we sure as hell used
centigrade at school.


Wikipedia says, "Centigrade, a historical forerunner to the Celsius
temperature scale, synonymous in modern usage"

(also when did Peking change it's name ? And Bombay ? And when did
"Islamic" become "Islamist" ? )


Islamic just means Muslim, a follower of Mohammed. Islamists are the
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3*10^8 isn't all that 'rational' as it has a 3 in it. Why not redefine the
foot so that c is 10^9 ft/s?


Because the foot is a "toy" folk unit as opposed to a serious scientific
unit ;-)

Let's define pi=3 and e=3 while we're at it ;-)

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On 01/02/2019 15:59, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 13:38:18 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

On 01/02/2019 10:30, Bob Eager wrote:

I know the Darwin family quite well because one of the University of
Kent Colleges is named after Charles Darwin.


That needs further explanation.


In what way? What do you need?


Why did the fact of one of the University of
Kent Colleges being named after Charles Darwin mean that you know the
Darwin family quite well?

Bill


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I have met and dined with many of the direct descendants of Charles
Darwin. Nice people, very interesting and frighteningly clever as well as
practical.


I have met and dined with many of the direct descendants of my wife's
great grandfather. Dreadful people, frightfully boring, staggeringly
stupid, as well as being hopelessly lacking in any sort of practical
ability whatsoever.

Bill
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On 01/02/2019 09:23, Scott wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 08:46:54 GMT, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:

Brian Gaff presented the following explanation :
One thing that has always interested me is the fact that many shortwave
stations even today, give the frequencies in Khz, but the band in metres.
Now I used to know the conversion by heart when I could see, but over the
years its kind of faded, but I know it contains the speed of light in metres
per second.


metres = 299792.458/ kHz

kHz = 299792.458/ metres


I thought it was 300,000. The teaching at my school must have been a
bit rubbish!

Nah, C is one foot per nanosecond.

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On 01/02/2019 17:48, Bill Wright wrote:
On 01/02/2019 16:09, Bob Eager wrote:


I have met and dined with many of the direct descendants of Charles
Darwin. Nice people, very interesting and frighteningly clever as well as
practical.


I have met and dined with many of the direct descendants of my wife's
great grandfather. Dreadful people, frightfully boring, staggeringly
stupid, as well as being hopelessly lacking in any sort of practical
ability whatsoever.

Bill


Are they Labour or Limp Dem MPs ?.
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On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 12:34:23 PM UTC, Fredxx wrote:
On 01/02/2019 12:24:36, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:32:57 -0500, S Viemeister wrote:

Watching the Eddie Izzard film on the development of radar, I was
surprised that they used 'megahertz' rather than 'megacycle'. Was this
usage accurate for the period?


Not quite as specialist, but cropped up in chat a few days ago, is when
did Centigrade become Celcius in the UK ? Because we sure as hell used
centigrade at school.


Wikipedia says, "Centigrade, a historical forerunner to the Celsius
temperature scale, synonymous in modern usage"


I was told at college that Centigrade was ambiguous as it is also a unit of angle as used in France.
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On Friday, 1 February 2019 17:48:33 UTC, Bill Wright wrote:
On 01/02/2019 16:09, Bob Eager wrote:


I have met and dined with many of the direct descendants of Charles
Darwin. Nice people, very interesting and frighteningly clever as well as
practical.


I have met and dined with many of the direct descendants of my wife's
great grandfather. Dreadful people, frightfully boring, staggeringly
stupid, as well as being hopelessly lacking in any sort of practical
ability whatsoever.



I had relatives like that.
Makes you wonder how they survive.


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On Friday, 1 February 2019 15:58:14 UTC, Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:32:57 -0500, S Viemeister wrote:

Watching the Eddie Izzard film on the development of radar, I was
surprised that they used 'megahertz' rather than 'megacycle'. Was this
usage accurate for the period?


The same film apparently has a plug being wired with brown/blue/gren-and-
yellow flex.

You often see modern light switches in period films.
Also roads with parallel ruts,ie no horse tracks in the middle.
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On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 9:31:26 AM UTC, harry wrote:
On Friday, 1 February 2019 01:33:02 UTC, S Viemeister wrote:
Watching the Eddie Izzard film on the development of radar, I was
surprised that they used 'megahertz' rather than 'megacycle'. Was this
usage accurate for the period?


It's c/s not cycles. (cycles per second)
If you leave the time element out, it's meaningless.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz


Radio Moscow was still using metre bands and megacycles per second in the 1980's
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On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 9:31:26 AM UTC, harry wrote:
On Friday, 1 February 2019 01:33:02 UTC, S Viemeister wrote:
Watching the Eddie Izzard film on the development of radar, I was
surprised that they used 'megahertz' rather than 'megacycle'. Was this
usage accurate for the period?


It's c/s not cycles. (cycles per second)
If you leave the time element out, it's meaningless.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz


Radio Moscow was still using metre bands and kilocycles per second in the 1980's
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On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 17:44:10 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

On 01/02/2019 15:59, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 13:38:18 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

On 01/02/2019 10:30, Bob Eager wrote:

I know the Darwin family quite well because one of the University of
Kent Colleges is named after Charles Darwin.

That needs further explanation.


In what way? What do you need?


Why did the fact of one of the University of
Kent Colleges being named after Charles Darwin mean that you know the
Darwin family quite well?


Ah, I see. I was a founder member of the College. I ended up being its
Master for 10 years. That's a sort of executive position covering student
welfare (e.g. emergency counselling, fixiung problems), discipline
(fining students or chucking them out of their accommodation!) and
entertaining important guests. The Darwin family used to come to our
dinners, and I got to know them quite well. I still see one of them
fairly often.


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On 01/02/2019 21:24, Tim Streater wrote:
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harry wrote:

On Friday, 1 February 2019 15:58:14 UTC, Bob Eager* wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:32:57 -0500, S Viemeister wrote:

Watching the Eddie Izzard film on the development of radar, I was
surprised that they used 'megahertz' rather than 'megacycle'. Was this
usage accurate for the period?

The same film apparently has a plug being wired with
brown/blue/gren-and-
yellow flex.

You often see modern light switches in period films.
Also roads with parallel ruts,ie no horse tracks in the middle.


Watching an episode of Foyle's War larse night. There was a wartime
(presumably prewar model) car that had two rear lights. I thought that
was only a postwar requirement.


Doesn't mean they didn't make ones with two at the back.

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On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:32:57 -0500, S Viemeister wrote:

Watching the Eddie Izzard film on the development of radar, I was
surprised that they used 'megahertz' rather than 'megacycle'. Was this
usage accurate for the period?


Not quite as specialist, but cropped up in chat a few days ago, is when
did Centigrade become Celcius in the UK ? Because we sure as hell used
centigrade at school.

(also when did Peking change it's name ? And Bombay ?


When lazy colonists showed up originally, and
back to the original when they went home.

And when did "Islamic" become "Islamist" ? )

And when did airfield become airport.

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Light frequencies, and especially infrared, are often still described as
a wavelength in nanometres.


Whereas at one time they were quoted in Angstroms - when 1 ? is 0.1 nm or
100 pm.


I remember them! I came across them regarding X-rays, I don't know if
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On 01/02/2019 16:09, Bob Eager wrote:


I have met and dined with many of the direct descendants of Charles
Darwin. Nice people, very interesting and frighteningly clever as well
as
practical.


I have met and dined with many of the direct descendants of my wife's
great grandfather. Dreadful people, frightfully boring, staggeringly
stupid, as well as being hopelessly lacking in any sort of practical
ability whatsoever.



I had relatives like that.
Makes you wonder how they survive.


The modern cradle to grave nanny state.

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On 01/02/2019 17:58, Andrew wrote:
On 01/02/2019 17:48, Bill Wright wrote:
On 01/02/2019 16:09, Bob Eager wrote:


I have met and dined with many of the direct descendants of Charles
Darwin. Nice people, very interesting and frighteningly clever as
well as
practical.


I have met and dined with many of the direct descendants of my wife's
great grandfather. Dreadful people, frightfully boring, staggeringly
stupid, as well as being hopelessly lacking in any sort of practical
ability whatsoever.

Bill


Are they Labour or Limp Dem MPs ?.


They are don't knows.

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On 01/02/2019 22:38, Bob Eager wrote:

Ah, I see. I was a founder member of the College. I ended up being its
Master for 10 years. That's a sort of executive position covering student
welfare (e.g. emergency counselling, fixiung problems), discipline
(fining students or chucking them out of their accommodation!) and
entertaining important guests. The Darwin family used to come to our
dinners, and I got to know them quite well. I still see one of them
fairly often.



I'm genuinely impressed.

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Light frequencies, and especially infrared, are often still described
as
a wavelength in nanometres.


Whereas at one time they were quoted in Angstroms - when 1 ? is 0.1 nm or
100 pm.


I remember them! I came across them regarding X-rays, I don't know if
they are still used in that field.


Yes they are
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%85ngstr%C3%B6m#Use

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On Friday, 1 February 2019 01:33:02 UTC, S Viemeister wrote:
Watching the Eddie Izzard film on the development of radar, I was
surprised that they used 'megahertz' rather than 'megacycle'. Was this
usage accurate for the period?


It's c/s not cycles. (cycles per second)
If you leave the time element out, it's meaningless.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz

Radio Moscow was still using metre bands and kilocycles per second in the 1980's

Odd.

I would have thought they would be using valves and electricity?


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On Friday, 1 February 2019 15:58:14 UTC, Bob Eager* wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:32:57 -0500, S Viemeister wrote:

Watching the Eddie Izzard film on the development of radar, I was
surprised that they used 'megahertz' rather than 'megacycle'. Was this
usage accurate for the period?

The same film apparently has a plug being wired with
brown/blue/gren-and-
yellow flex.

You often see modern light switches in period films.
Also roads with parallel ruts,ie no horse tracks in the middle.


Watching an episode of Foyle's War larse night. There was a wartime
(presumably prewar model) car that had two rear lights. I thought that
was only a postwar requirement.

Might have been, but plenty of cars had them in the 30s



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On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:32:57 -0500, S Viemeister wrote:

Watching the Eddie Izzard film on the development of radar, I was
surprised that they used 'megahertz' rather than 'megacycle'. Was this
usage accurate for the period?


Not quite as specialist, but cropped up in chat a few days ago, is when
did Centigrade become Celcius in the UK ? Because we sure as hell used
centigrade at school.

(also when did Peking change it's name ? And Bombay ?


When lazy colonists showed up originally, and
back to the original when they went home.

And when did "Islamic" become "Islamist" ? )

And when did airfield become airport.


When international commercial traffic started using them

In fact in between was 'aerodrome'.



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On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:32:57 -0500, S Viemeister wrote:

Watching the Eddie Izzard film on the development of radar, I was
surprised that they used 'megahertz' rather than 'megacycle'. Was this
usage accurate for the period?


Not quite as specialist, but cropped up in chat a few days ago, is when
did Centigrade become Celcius in the UK ? Because we sure as hell used
centigrade at school.

(also when did Peking change it's name ? And Bombay ?


When lazy colonists showed up originally, and
back to the original when they went home.


And when did "Islamic" become "Islamist" ? )

And when did airfield become airport.


when the used concrete instead of grass for the runways

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"Jethro_uk" wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:32:57 -0500, S Viemeister wrote:

Watching the Eddie Izzard film on the development of radar, I was
surprised that they used 'megahertz' rather than 'megacycle'. Was this
usage accurate for the period?

Not quite as specialist, but cropped up in chat a few days ago, is when
did Centigrade become Celcius in the UK ? Because we sure as hell used
centigrade at school.

(also when did Peking change it's name ? And Bombay ?


When lazy colonists showed up originally, and
back to the original when they went home.

And when did "Islamic" become "Islamist" ? )

And when did airfield become airport.


When international commercial traffic started using them


Thats not really true in europe with airships.

In fact in between was 'aerodrome'.


True.

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"Jethro_uk" wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:32:57 -0500, S Viemeister wrote:

Watching the Eddie Izzard film on the development of radar, I was
surprised that they used 'megahertz' rather than 'megacycle'. Was this
usage accurate for the period?

Not quite as specialist, but cropped up in chat a few days ago, is when
did Centigrade become Celcius in the UK ? Because we sure as hell used
centigrade at school.

(also when did Peking change it's name ? And Bombay ?


When lazy colonists showed up originally, and
back to the original when they went home.


And when did "Islamic" become "Islamist" ? )

And when did airfield become airport.


when the used concrete instead of grass for the runways


Fraid not and plenty of them still dont use concrete.

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On Friday, 1 February 2019 23:03:49 UTC, 2987fr wrote:
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:32:57 -0500, S Viemeister wrote:

Watching the Eddie Izzard film on the development of radar, I was
surprised that they used 'megahertz' rather than 'megacycle'. Was this
usage accurate for the period?


Not quite as specialist, but cropped up in chat a few days ago, is when
did Centigrade become Celcius in the UK ? Because we sure as hell used
centigrade at school.

(also when did Peking change it's name ? And Bombay ?


When lazy colonists showed up originally, and
back to the original when they went home.

And when did "Islamic" become "Islamist" ? )

And when did airfield become airport.


We always called them "Aerodromes" in the UK.

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On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:32:57 -0500, S Viemeister wrote:

Watching the Eddie Izzard film on the development of radar, I was
surprised that they used 'megahertz' rather than 'megacycle'. Was this
usage accurate for the period?

Not quite as specialist, but cropped up in chat a few days ago, is when
did Centigrade become Celcius in the UK ? Because we sure as hell used
centigrade at school.

(also when did Peking change it's name ? And Bombay ?


When lazy colonists showed up originally, and
back to the original when they went home.


And when did "Islamic" become "Islamist" ? )

And when did airfield become airport.


when the used concrete instead of grass for the runways


Most use tarmac. Only wartime runways used concrete.
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On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 12:26:27 AM UTC, Roger Hayter wrote:
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Light frequencies, and especially infrared, are often still described as
a wavelength in nanometres.


Whereas at one time they were quoted in Angstroms - when 1 ? is 0.1 nm or
100 pm.


I remember them! I came across them regarding X-rays, I don't know if
they are still used in that field.


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In our lab at BP we quoted small wavelengths in nanometres.
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On Sat, 02 Feb 2019 02:19:05 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

On 01/02/2019 22:38, Bob Eager wrote:

Ah, I see. I was a founder member of the College. I ended up being its
Master for 10 years. That's a sort of executive position covering
student welfare (e.g. emergency counselling, fixiung problems),
discipline (fining students or chucking them out of their
accommodation!) and entertaining important guests. The Darwin family
used to come to our dinners, and I got to know them quite well. I still
see one of them fairly often.



I'm genuinely impressed.


Hard work. On call 24/7 weekdays, 1 in 4 weekends. Dead students at 3
a.m. Firts one was 3 weeks after I started.

I didn't realise how stressful it was until I stopped.

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