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Quotes for making a given set range between £1400 and £3000...
How hard can it be? Sewing machines are cheap. Curtain making labour is not... Material plus linings/tapes looks to be in the sort of £700 for decent fabric to £1500 mark for really GOOD fabric. Anyone done it? Or know of good online guides? -- I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives. Leo Tolstoy |
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On 08/12/2018 11:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Quotes for making a given set range between £1400 and £3000... How hard can it be? Sewing machines are cheap. Curtain making labour is not... Material plus linings/tapes looks to be in the sort of £700 for decent fabric* to £1500 mark for really GOOD fabric. Anyone done it? Or know of good online guides? https://wereinstitches.co.uk/how-to-make-curtains/ |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message news  Quotes for making a given set range between 1400 and 3000... How hard can it be? Sewing machines are cheap. Curtain making labour is not... Material plus linings/tapes looks to be in the sort of 700 for decent fabric to 1500 mark for really GOOD fabric. Anyone done it? Or know of good online guides? the wife makes ours.......much cheapness... |
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On Saturday, 8 December 2018 11:19:48 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Quotes for making a given set range between £1400 and £3000... How hard can it be? Sewing machines are cheap. Curtain making labour is not... Depends on where you are getting your curtain-making labour from. Magdas are a lot cheaper than Cassandras. Material plus linings/tapes looks to be in the sort of £700 for decent fabric to £1500 mark for really GOOD fabric. Anyone done it? Or know of good online guides? AFAIK if you can sew a straight line you can make curtains. All the ruffly bits are taken care of by the header tapes. I don't have a sewing-machine so my kitchen curtains are made with a stapler. |
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On 08/12/2018 11:32, Richard wrote:
On 08/12/2018 11:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Quotes for making a given set range between £1400 and £3000... How hard can it be? Sewing machines are cheap. Curtain making labour is not... Material plus linings/tapes looks to be in the sort of £700 for decent fabric* to £1500 mark for really GOOD fabric. Anyone done it? Or know of good online guides? https://wereinstitches.co.uk/how-to-make-curtains/ That looks excellent! Once the sewing machine is mastered it can't be as hard as making a model aeroplane. Women manage. -- "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." Jonathan Swift. |
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On 08/12/2018 12:41, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 11:19:45 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Quotes for making a given set range between £1400 and £3000... How hard can it be? Sewing machines are cheap. Curtain making labour is not... Material plus linings/tapes looks to be in the sort of £700 for decent fabric to £1500 mark for really GOOD fabric. Anyone done it? Or know of good online guides? After my wife died and I had to re-size some curtains to fit the windows in the new bungalow, I used iron-on hemming tape to deal with hems etc rather than trying to sew them. This stuff https://tinyurl.com/yacuweh8 Worked out very well. Still got to get some new curtains for other windows though, at the sorts of prices you mention :-( maybe we can form a cartel.. I've done a bit of sewing - made some trousers but they ended up too small...so I reckon I can get the thing done OK. The guide posted earlier has filled in a couple of blanks. -- "The great thing about Glasgow is that if there's a nuclear attack it'll look exactly the same afterwards." Billy Connolly |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote: Quotes for making a given set range between 1400 and 3000... How hard can it be? Sewing machines are cheap. Curtain making labour is not... Material plus linings/tapes looks to be in the sort of 700 for decent fabric to 1500 mark for really GOOD fabric. Anyone done it? Or know of good online guides? Have you checked a decent department store for ready mades? Somewhere like John Lewis. Using a sewing machine isn't difficult once you've acquired the skill. But starting out on a big project using expensive materials ain't the way to learn. In the same way as building electronics. Best to start out with something simple and cheap, to learn on. -- *The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 08/12/2018 11:32, Richard wrote: On 08/12/2018 11:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Quotes for making a given set range between 1400 and 3000... How hard can it be? Sewing machines are cheap. Curtain making labour is not... Material plus linings/tapes looks to be in the sort of 700 for decent fabric to 1500 mark for really GOOD fabric. Anyone done it? Or know of good online guides? https://wereinstitches.co.uk/how-to-make-curtains/ That looks excellent! Once the sewing machine is mastered it can't be as hard as making a model aeroplane. You make model aircraft with a sewing machine?? -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On 08/12/2018 13:39, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 08/12/2018 11:32, Richard wrote: On 08/12/2018 11:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Quotes for making a given set range between £1400 and £3000... How hard can it be? Sewing machines are cheap. Curtain making labour is not... Material plus linings/tapes looks to be in the sort of £700 for decent fabric to £1500 mark for really GOOD fabric. Anyone done it? Or know of good online guides? https://wereinstitches.co.uk/how-to-make-curtains/ That looks excellent! Once the sewing machine is mastered it can't be as hard as making a model aeroplane. You make model aircraft with a sewing machine?? It has been known oddly enough - sewing silk panels together... But no. the normal toools are woodworking ones. -- Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques. |
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On 08/12/18 11:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Quotes for making a given set range between £1400 and £3000... How hard can it be? Sewing machines are cheap. It depends on what fabric you are using, and what lining and perhaps interlining is being used. We had some very heavy curtains made up about 6 years ago, and when we visited the woman who was making them we were amazed at the size of the sewing machine she was using. An ordinary sewing machine isn't good enough for heavy duty stuff (especially if it's your business and you are frequently called upon to make heavy curtains). Just search on "industrial sewing machines" and you'll find the decent ones start at around £1000. -- Jeff |
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On 08/12/2018 15:28, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 08/12/18 11:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Quotes for making a given set range between £1400 and £3000... How hard can it be? Sewing machines are cheap. It depends on what fabric you are using, and what lining and perhaps interlining is being used. We had some very heavy curtains made up about 6 years ago, and when we visited the woman who was making them we were amazed at the size of the sewing machine she was using. An ordinary sewing machine isn't good enough for heavy duty stuff (especially if it's your business and you are frequently called upon to make heavy curtains). Just search on "industrial sewing machines" and you'll find the decent ones start at around £1000. second hand start around 150.. I would not be buyng a new one... But good point none the less. Thank you. -- "It is an established fact to 97% confidence limits that left wing conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere" |
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On Saturday, 8 December 2018 11:19:48 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Quotes for making a given set range between £1400 and £3000... How hard can it be? Sewing machines are cheap. Curtain making labour is not... Material plus linings/tapes looks to be in the sort of £700 for decent fabric to £1500 mark for really GOOD fabric. Anyone done it? Or know of good online guides? If you can't find what you want at sensible price, making them is relatively easy. Beginners however make all sorts of mistakes that end up looking bad, so do get practice in first & start with the smallest ones. Blackout lining is usually used to stop long term fade. I can recommend adding thermal lining too, though it does add bulk when they're open. And there is always the question of whether you want light to come through or not when closed. NT |
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writes We had some very heavy curtains made up about 6 years ago, and when we visited the woman who was making them we were amazed at the size of the sewing machine she was using. An ordinary sewing machine isn't good enough for heavy duty stuff (especially if it's your business and you are frequently called upon to make heavy curtains). My wife used to make all our curtains, but recently circumstances have changed and she no longer has the time or space. We found a woman who did clothing alterations, curtains and other things at a really good price. One day she mentioned that she was trained as a ship's upholsterer. Son's house came with a shabby but good chaise longue. His father in law asked the posh upholsterer three doors down from him for a quote - over 1000. We asked our contact - she said bring it and the material here 150. She was slow, but she did move premises during the job and the result was excellent. Since then she has made several sets of very large, heavy, lined curtains for him and they have all been quick, first class with no problems and, I'm told, inexpensive. She works, with her one big industrial sewing machine, in a single unit on an industrial estate. The machine is in the centre of a large open area, giving space and easy access all round. Nothing pretentious or in any way flash. When we collected the chaise she showed us the car seats she was rebuilding. If you can find the right person to do the job, there's little point in diy except for interest. -- Bill --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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Pamela wrote: On 11:19 8 Dec 2018, The Natural Philosopher wrote in news Quotes for making a given set range between 1400 and 3000... How hard can it be? Sewing machines are cheap. Curtain making labour is not... Material plus linings/tapes looks to be in the sort of 700 for decent fabric to 1500 mark for really GOOD fabric. Anyone done it? Or know of good online guides? When I made curtains they didn't hang "flat" and you could see annoying ruckles in the fabric when they were drawn. It should have happened but it did. I wouldn't do it again. Using a sewing machine is like all acquired skills. Easy when you've learned that skill. No different from any other. But thinking it looks easy isn't the same as it being easy. Must admit I'm surprised someone has got to Turnip's age and never used a sewing machine. -- *Do they ever shut up on your planet? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 12/12/2018 00:42, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Pamela wrote: On 11:19 8 Dec 2018, The Natural Philosopher wrote in news Quotes for making a given set range between £1400 and £3000... How hard can it be? Sewing machines are cheap. Curtain making labour is not... Material plus linings/tapes looks to be in the sort of £700 for decent fabric to £1500 mark for really GOOD fabric. Anyone done it? Or know of good online guides? When I made curtains they didn't hang "flat" and you could see annoying ruckles in the fabric when they were drawn. It should have happened but it did. I wouldn't do it again. Using a sewing machine is like all acquired skills. Easy when you've learned that skill. No different from any other. But thinking it looks easy isn't the same as it being easy. Must admit I'm surprised someone has got to Turnip's age and never used a sewing machine. Out of seven plus billion on the planet, I'm betting everything that the majority haven't. |
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On 12/12/2018 05:28, Richard wrote:
On 12/12/2018 00:42, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , *** Pamela wrote: On 11:19* 8 Dec 2018, The Natural Philosopher wrote in news Quotes for making a given set range between £1400 and £3000... How hard can it be? Sewing machines are cheap. Curtain making labour is not... Material plus linings/tapes looks to be in the sort of £700 for decent fabric to £1500 mark for really GOOD fabric. Anyone done it? Or know of good online guides? When I made curtains they didn't hang "flat" and you could see annoying ruckles in the fabric when they were drawn.* It should have happened but it did.* I wouldn't do it again. Using a sewing machine is like all acquired skills. Easy when you've learned that skill. No different from any other. But thinking it looks easy isn't the same as it being easy. Must admit I'm surprised someone has got to Turnip's age and never used a sewing machine. Out of seven plus billion on the planet, I'm betting everything that the majority haven't. I have in fact used a sewing machine a lot when younger, even making my own trousers, enough to teach mne that mere use of a sewing machines is not the only skill required. As Dave would know if he had ever tried to make a garment with one. I can also knit and crochet. But not to a sufficiently high skill level to make it worth doing anything about. -- "Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) " Alan Sokal |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote: Must admit I'm surprised someone has got to Turnip's age and never used a sewing machine. Out of seven plus billion on the planet, I'm betting everything that the majority haven't. I have in fact used a sewing machine a lot when younger, even making my own trousers, enough to teach mne that mere use of a sewing machines is not the only skill required. As Dave would know if he had ever tried to make a garment with one. I can also knit and crochet. But not to a sufficiently high skill level to make it worth doing anything about. If you do have decent sewing machine skills, You'll not have problems making curtains. Do a bit of Googling for the method. -- *Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Richard wrote: Must admit I'm surprised someone has got to Turnip's age and never used a sewing machine. Out of seven plus billion on the planet, I'm betting everything that the majority haven't. Oddly I was referring to that in the context of a DIY group. I've no doubt the likes of you have forgotten it is. -- *Just give me chocolate and nobody gets hurt Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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writes In article , Richard wrote: Must admit I'm surprised someone has got to Turnip's age and never used a sewing machine. Out of seven plus billion on the planet, I'm betting everything that the majority haven't. Oddly I was referring to that in the context of a DIY group. I've no doubt the likes of you have forgotten it is. Wasted sarcasm Dave:-) -- Tim Lamb |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" writes: In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: Must admit I'm surprised someone has got to Turnip's age and never used a sewing machine. Out of seven plus billion on the planet, I'm betting everything that the majority haven't. I have in fact used a sewing machine a lot when younger, even making my own trousers, enough to teach mne that mere use of a sewing machines is not the only skill required. As Dave would know if he had ever tried to make a garment with one. I can also knit and crochet. But not to a sufficiently high skill level to make it worth doing anything about. If you do have decent sewing machine skills, You'll not have problems making curtains. Do a bit of Googling for the method. Many Repair Cafes have one or two seamstresses (and male equivalents for which there is no recognised name), and they are quite often called upon to teach people how to sew who have just become owners of a sewing machine and want to know how to use it correctly. Pop along to your local Repair Cafe if it has a seamstress. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 12:42:29 PM UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/12/2018 11:32, Richard wrote: On 08/12/2018 11:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Quotes for making a given set range between £1400 and £3000.... How hard can it be? Sewing machines are cheap. Curtain making labour is not... Material plus linings/tapes looks to be in the sort of £700 for decent fabric* to £1500 mark for really GOOD fabric. Anyone done it? Or know of good online guides? https://wereinstitches.co.uk/how-to-make-curtains/ That looks excellent! Once the sewing machine is mastered it can't be as hard as making a model aeroplane. I've done both. They demand roughly equal amounts of time and patience. The best way to make curtains involves a fair bit of hand sewing. Ideally you have a large floor on which to sew the hems etc. I found gathering up the head tape, and sewing some of the parts with many layers, the hardest bit. I think it would be easy to do a quick job and end up with something that is 'OK', but doesn't really hang well. Women manage. Typical, from you. What's that femisim quote you sometimes have in your .sig? J^n |
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On Wednesday, 12 December 2018 11:51:05 UTC, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes: In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: Must admit I'm surprised someone has got to Turnip's age and never used a sewing machine. Out of seven plus billion on the planet, I'm betting everything that the majority haven't. I have in fact used a sewing machine a lot when younger, even making my own trousers, enough to teach mne that mere use of a sewing machines is not the only skill required. As Dave would know if he had ever tried to make a garment with one. I can also knit and crochet. But not to a sufficiently high skill level to make it worth doing anything about. If you do have decent sewing machine skills, You'll not have problems making curtains. Do a bit of Googling for the method. Many Repair Cafes have one or two seamstresses (and male equivalents for which there is no recognised name), and they are quite often called upon to teach people how to sew who have just become owners of a sewing machine and want to know how to use it correctly. Pop along to your local Repair Cafe if it has a seamstress. My local repair cafe insists it has repair events but doesn't. It also never seems to be open. Hardly a way to get people involved. I wonder if it might be just a way to milk whatever benefits of sic company status might exist (I've forgotten what benefits sics do or don't have). NT |
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On 12/12/2018 11:55, jkn wrote:
On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 12:42:29 PM UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 08/12/2018 11:32, Richard wrote: On 08/12/2018 11:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Quotes for making a given set range between £1400 and £3000... How hard can it be? Sewing machines are cheap. Curtain making labour is not... Material plus linings/tapes looks to be in the sort of £700 for decent fabric* to £1500 mark for really GOOD fabric. Anyone done it? Or know of good online guides? https://wereinstitches.co.uk/how-to-make-curtains/ That looks excellent! Once the sewing machine is mastered it can't be as hard as making a model aeroplane. I've done both. They demand roughly equal amounts of time and patience. The best way to make curtains involves a fair bit of hand sewing. Ideally you have a large floor on which to sew the hems etc. I found gathering up the head tape, and sewing some of the parts with many layers, the hardest bit. I think it would be easy to do a quick job and end up with something that is 'OK', but doesn't really hang well. Women manage. Typical, from you. What's that femisim quote you sometimes have in your .sig? Marriage ruined my opinion of women J^n -- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. Mark Twain |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote: Typical, from you. What's that femisim quote you sometimes have in your .sig? Marriage ruined my opinion of women Seems to be a Brexiteer trait. Grouping all under one banner. Apart from UKIP being a bunch of racist cnuts, obviously. -- *Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter since nobody listens* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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jkn wrote: The best way to make curtains involves a fair bit of hand sewing. Ideally you have a large floor on which to sew the hems etc. I found gathering up the head tape, and sewing some of the parts with many layers, the hardest bit. I think it would be easy to do a quick job and end up with something that is 'OK', but doesn't really hang well. I've used a stapler before now to avoid lots of temporary tacking. Most do seem to leave the hem until final fitting to get a nice even fit to the floor or whatever. But again stapling or tape can be used - or other modern day methods. -- *There are two kinds of pedestrians... the quick and the dead. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:15:27 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , jkn wrote: The best way to make curtains involves a fair bit of hand sewing. Ideally you have a large floor on which to sew the hems etc. I found gathering up the head tape, and sewing some of the parts with many layers, the hardest bit. I think it would be easy to do a quick job and end up with something that is 'OK', but doesn't really hang well. I've used a stapler before now to avoid lots of temporary tacking. Most do seem to leave the hem until final fitting to get a nice even fit to the floor or whatever. But again stapling or tape can be used - or other modern day methods. that's like saying sheet polythene can be used. Technically it can, but... |
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On 12/12/2018 11:39, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes In article , * Richard wrote: Must admit I'm surprised someone has got to Turnip's age and never used a sewing machine. Out of seven plus billion on the planet, I'm betting everything that the majority haven't. Oddly I was referring to that in the context of a DIY group. I've no doubt the likes of you have forgotten it is. Wasted sarcasm Dave:-) Not wasted. Just wondering what took the idiot so long to join the thread. His only intent was to have a dig at TNP a whole four days after the original post. See Tim, Dave's sarcasm is self targeted. |
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writes On 12/12/2018 11:39, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes In article , * Richard wrote: Must admit I'm surprised someone has got to Turnip's age and never used a sewing machine. Out of seven plus billion on the planet, I'm betting everything that the majority haven't. Oddly I was referring to that in the context of a DIY group. I've no doubt the likes of you have forgotten it is. Wasted sarcasm Dave:-) Not wasted. Just wondering what took the idiot so long to join the thread. His only intent was to have a dig at TNP a whole four days after the original post. See Tim, Dave's sarcasm is self targeted. I was trying to support the concept of this being a d-i-y group. The political topics that most threads seem to morph into can be interesting but also tediously repetitive. -- Tim Lamb |
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Richard wrote: Oddly I was referring to that in the context of a DIY group. I've no doubt the likes of you have forgotten it is. Wasted sarcasm Dave:-) Not wasted. Just wondering what took the idiot so long to join the thread. His only intent was to have a dig at TNP a whole four days after the original post. That's rich coming from you. But then you're wrong about that as with so much else. I replied to Turnip's first post some 2 hours later. Your grovelling apology for telling lies will be treated accordingly. See Tim, Dave's sarcasm is self targeted. -- *Also too, never, ever use repetitive redundancies * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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