anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes me
it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you run out
of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes
me it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you
run out of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......

or will it not charge because there is no ground? ....

On 19/10/2018 21:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes me
it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you run out
of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......


What's the battery capacity? 20 kWh? So 4% of capacity after an hour
from a typical small genny? Easier to carry a big diesel battery.

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:08:35 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 19/10/2018 21:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes me
it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you run out
of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......


What's the battery capacity? 20 kWh? So 4% of capacity after an hour
from a typical small genny? Easier to carry a big diesel battery.

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)

Cheers, T i m

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:41:17 +0100, T i m wrote:

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)

Nah! Put a windmill on the roof!

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On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:05:31 +0000, The Other John wrote:

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:41:17 +0100, T i m wrote:

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)

Nah! Put a windmill on the roof!

Now THAT is a brilliant idea. You should patent that! ;-)



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On 20/10/2018 00:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:05:31 +0000, The Other John wrote:

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:41:17 +0100, T i m wrote:

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)

Nah! Put a windmill on the roof!

Now THAT is a brilliant idea. You should patent that! ;-)



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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes
me it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you
run out of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......

or will it not charge because there is no ground? ....

It will in fact charge fine and some EVs are sold with one supplied to do
that.

On 20/10/2018 00:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/10/2018 00:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:05:31 +0000, The Other John wrote:

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:41:17 +0100, T i m wrote:

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)

Nah!Â* Put a windmill on the roof!Â*

Now THAT is a brilliant idea. You should patent that! ;-)



The faster you go the further you can go! Free energy!

....and make the blades out of solar panels, and you can get other road
users to pay you for the electricity that they generate.


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T i m wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:08:35 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 19/10/2018 21:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes me
it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you run out
of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......


What's the battery capacity? 20 kWh? So 4% of capacity after an hour
from a typical small genny? Easier to carry a big diesel battery.

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)

Cheers, T i m


Or a trailed generator big enough to drive the car for ever with a huge
fuel tank behind the generator.

That then makes it a hybrid then?
I wonder, do these cars change colour and fall off the road in autumn?
Brian

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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes
me it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you
run out of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......

I would think that its a bit like the lady who swallowed a spider.
To charge it up fast enough you would need a fair sized generator or a
smaller one running for a longer time.To do this you would need to also pack
fuel for the generator to fill it up....
Brian

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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes
me it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you
run out of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......

or will it not charge because there is no ground? ....

Oh no, no more perpetual motion machine threads please!

I guess you could have a wind turbine a water wheel and some solar cells
while you were at it.
Brian

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On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:08:35 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 19/10/2018 21:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes
me
it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you run
out
of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......


What's the battery capacity? 20 kWh? So 4% of capacity after an hour
from a typical small genny? Easier to carry a big diesel battery.

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)

Cheers, T i m

I was thinking that there could be a cow in the back attached to an
extractor so all the methane was captured and the run the generator on gas.
Brian

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On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:05:31 +0000, The Other John wrote:

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:41:17 +0100, T i m wrote:

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)

Nah! Put a windmill on the roof!

Now THAT is a brilliant idea. You should patent that! ;-)



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On 19/10/2018 22:08, newshound wrote:
On 19/10/2018 21:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small
generator?...strikes me
it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you
run out
of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......


What's the battery capacity? 20 kWh? So 4% of capacity after an hour
from a typical small genny? Easier to carry a big diesel battery.
What like 12V 120Ah? - That's 1.4kWh - good for about 5 miles if your lucky.

On 20/10/2018 07:56, Brian Gaff wrote:
That then makes it a hybrid then?
I wonder, do these cars change colour and fall off the road in autumn?
Brian


You do realise that you wreck the reading flow of every thread you post to?
PLEASE DO NOT TOP POST!

On 20/10/2018 09:20, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Andy
Bennet wrote:

On 20/10/2018 07:56, Brian Gaff wrote:
That then makes it a hybrid then?
Â* I wonder, do these cars change colour and fall off the road in autumn?
Â* Brian


You do realise that you wreck the reading flow of every thread you
post to?
PLEASE DO NOT TOP POST!

Brian gets special dispensation: he is blind.


Apologies to Brian. I did not know.
I'll bite my tonguei n future!

Andy

Andy Bennet wrote:
On 19/10/2018 22:08, newshound wrote:
On 19/10/2018 21:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small
generator?...strikes me
it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you
run out
of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......


What's the battery capacity? 20 kWh? So 4% of capacity after an hour
from a typical small genny? Easier to carry a big diesel battery.
What like 12V 120Ah? - That's 1.4kWh - good for about 5 miles if your
lucky.
And the problem of converting the 12 volt into 360 volt or whatever.

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
news

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
news
anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes
me it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you
run out of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......

or will it not charge because there is no ground? ....

It will in fact charge fine and some EVs are sold with one supplied to do
that.

really?...which ones ? ....

"newshound" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 19/10/2018 21:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes
me
it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you run
out
of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......


What's the battery capacity? 20 kWh? So 4% of capacity after an hour from
a typical small genny? Easier to carry a big diesel battery.


OK .....

"T i m" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:08:35 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 19/10/2018 21:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes
me
it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you run
out
of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......


What's the battery capacity? 20 kWh? So 4% of capacity after an hour
from a typical small genny? Easier to carry a big diesel battery.

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)

Cheers, T i m


why can they not tow ? ....

"Andy Bennet" wrote in message
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On 20/10/2018 07:56, Brian Gaff wrote:
That then makes it a hybrid then?
I wonder, do these cars change colour and fall off the road in autumn?
Brian


You do realise that you wreck the reading flow of every thread you post
to?
PLEASE DO NOT TOP POST!

that would bring a tear to a glass eye ...tee hee

On 19/10/2018 22:41, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:08:35 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 19/10/2018 21:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes me
it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you run out
of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......


What's the battery capacity? 20 kWh? So 4% of capacity after an hour
from a typical small genny? Easier to carry a big diesel battery.

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)

Cheers, T i m



Jim isn't bright enough to understand that is a joke.



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On 20/10/2018 09:32, FMurtz wrote:
Andy Bennet wrote:
On 19/10/2018 22:08, newshound wrote:
On 19/10/2018 21:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small
generator?...strikes me
it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you
run out
of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......


What's the battery capacity? 20 kWh? So 4% of capacity after an hour
from a typical small genny? Easier to carry a big diesel battery.
What like 12V 120Ah? - That's 1.4kWh - good for about 5 miles if your
lucky.
And the problem of converting the 12 volt into 360 volt or whatever.

Probably easier to strap another 20kWh battery on the roof and use that
as a spare!
Might knacker the acceleration and cornering ability a tad, but hey ....

On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 04:15:11 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 20/10/2018 00:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/10/2018 00:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:05:31 +0000, The Other John wrote:

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:41:17 +0100, T i m wrote:

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)

Nah!* Put a windmill on the roof!*

Now THAT is a brilliant idea. You should patent that! ;-)



The faster you go the further you can go! Free energy!

...and make the blades out of solar panels, and you can get other road
users to pay you for the electricity that they generate.

Hehe ... weg

Cheers, T i m

On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:29:50 +1100, FMurtz
wrote:
snip

What's the battery capacity? 20 kWh? So 4% of capacity after an hour
from a typical small genny? Easier to carry a big diesel battery.

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)


Or a trailed generator big enough to drive the car for ever with a huge
fuel tank behind the generator.

Ah, but the only problem with a trailer behind a trailer (to keep the
axle loads down) is I think you might be restricted to 25 mpg or
somesuch. Not a problem if everyone was doing it though ...

Cheers, T i m

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
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On 19/10/2018 22:41, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:08:35 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 19/10/2018 21:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small
generator?...strikes me
it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you
run out
of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......


What's the battery capacity? 20 kWh? So 4% of capacity after an hour
from a typical small genny? Easier to carry a big diesel battery.

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)

Cheers, T i m



Jim isn't bright enough to understand that is a joke.


is that the same as you not understanding my jokes about being beat up or my
vapour trip to Kent ?...and going on about it for years .......

On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 09:38:05 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

snip

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)


why can they not tow ? ....

Because to fit a towbar (more the point technically) 'these days' the
vehicle (and the Towbar I believe) has to be type approved for such
and that would mean testing it with such ... and apart from Tesla in
The States (and I'm not sure their regulations are the same as ours),
no EV I'm aware of has been type approved for a towbar.

The same applies to the Ford Ka etc, so it's not just EV's.

Many (most?) Hybrids can tow because they are just ICE vehicles in any
case. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

"T i m" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:08:35 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 19/10/2018 21:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes
me
it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you run
out
of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......


What's the battery capacity? 20 kWh? So 4% of capacity after an hour
from a typical small genny? Easier to carry a big diesel battery.

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)

Cheers, T i m


what about pedals so a cheeky fat obese ******* like brian reay can lose
some weight .....?

Brian Gaff wrote

I was thinking that there could be a cow in the
back attached to an extractor so all the methane
was captured and the run the generator on gas.

More fool you. There would be nothing
for it to eat and so no methane, stupid.

"Cursitor Doom" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:05:31 +0000, The Other John wrote:

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:41:17 +0100, T i m wrote:

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)

Nah! Put a windmill on the roof!

Now THAT is a brilliant idea. You should patent that! ;-)



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"T i m" wrote in message
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 09:38:05 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

snip

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)


why can they not tow ? ....

Because to fit a towbar (more the point technically) 'these days' the
vehicle (and the Towbar I believe) has to be type approved for such
and that would mean testing it with such ... and apart from Tesla in
The States (and I'm not sure their regulations are the same as ours),
no EV I'm aware of has been type approved for a towbar.

The same applies to the Ford Ka etc, so it's not just EV's.

Many (most?) Hybrids can tow because they are just ICE vehicles in any
case. ;-)

yes the worse parts of both worlds....outlandish ....tee hee


so there is no technical reason just an approval issue
.....thanks.......think it applies to my mustang then ....but who would want
to tow with a mustang...tee hee

On Saturday, 20 October 2018 04:15:13 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
...and make the blades out of solar panels, and you can get other road
users to pay you for the electricity that they generate.

Also solar panels on the rear bumper, then you can be powered by the car behind's headlamps

Owain

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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I would think that its a bit like the lady who swallowed a spider.
To charge it up fast enough you would need a fair sized generator or a
smaller one running for a longer time.To do this you would need to also
pack fuel for the generator to fill it up....
Brian

what about a long extension cable then ? .....

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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I would think that its a bit like the lady who swallowed a spider.
To charge it up fast enough you would need a fair sized generator or a
smaller one running for a longer time.To do this you would need to also
pack fuel for the generator to fill it up....
Brian

what about a long extension cable then ? .....

Brian Gaff wrote

That then makes it a hybrid then?

The Nissan Leaf isnt a hybrid.

I wonder, do these cars change colour and fall off the road in autumn?

Nope, in winter, silly.

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes
me it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you
run out of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......

In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes
me it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you
run out of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......

Have you done the sums on how long a small generator would take to give
you a meaningful range? How much the weight would effect the range if you
carry it at all times?

Why not just by a hybrid in the first place?

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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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"Rod Speed" wrote in message
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
news

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
news anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small
generator?...strikes me it would be a good idea to carry one and be
able to charge up if you run out of juice....like carrying a gallon of
petrol in the boot......

or will it not charge because there is no ground? ....

It will in fact charge fine and some EVs are sold with one supplied to do
that.

really?...which ones ? ....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_i3...xtender_option

"T i m" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:08:35 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 19/10/2018 21:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes
me
it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you run
out
of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......


What's the battery capacity? 20 kWh? So 4% of capacity after an hour
from a typical small genny? Easier to carry a big diesel battery.

Or, if only they could tow ... you could have a friction driven
generator in a trailer charging the battery as you drive! ;-)

Cheers, T i m

what about pedals so a cheeky fat obese ******* like brian reay can lose
some weight .....?

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
anybody tried charging the nissan leaf from a small generator?...strikes
me it would be a good idea to carry one and be able to charge up if you
run out of juice....like carrying a gallon of petrol in the boot......

Have you done the sums on how long a small generator would take to give
you a meaningful range? How much the weight would effect the range if you
carry it at all times?
no.....

Why not just by a hybrid in the first place?

coz I only want to pay for petrol in an emergency and I don't want to haul
about a petrol engine .....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=supALdCIRJI

what about this? ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxmShTA92Gs