OT. On Treason May/the EUSSR

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In article , MM
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 08:15:17 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote:

On Tuesday, 25 September 2018 11:11:19 UTC+1, MM wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:40:07 +0100, Nightjar
wrote:

On 25/09/2018 09:14, Brian Gaff wrote:
We need to define democracy. It seems to mean whatever gets
them
back
into
power as many politicians like many rock stars start to
believe
they
are
the
saviour of society and cannot possibly be wrong.

To the Athenians, who invented it, democracy meant giving every
citizen* the right to vote on every issue - effectively a
referendum
on every decision.

* Citizens had to be male, property owners and have completed
military
training.

To my mind, democracy means having the right to change one's mind
when
the facts change. Already half the lifetime of a normal session
of
government (five years) has elapsed and we know a *heck* of a lot
more
now about the ramifications of leaving. A new poll of Labour
Party
members shows that over 80% want now to remain in the EU.
Business
Insider UK reported on 4 September that 2.6 million voters have
switched support from leave to remain.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/this-p...it-voters-now-
want-to-remain-in-the-eu-2018-9?r=US&IR=T

MM

The facts have not changed since the referendum..

But the fact is, many more voters are now aware of the facts.

Any future changes will be for the worse.
Eg, EUSSR army.

Why is that a change for the worse, given the threat Putin poses?

We already have NATO. What we don't have, are that many countries
other
than the US and the UK who are ready to put their defence money
where
their mouth is. So you might be entitled to wonder what the "EU
Army"
is for.

So the EU doesnt have to get the US to agree with what its used for.
It did in fact take a long time before NATO got involved in the fiasco
in Bosnia when Clinton was Prez. And Ike made Britain and France
back off militarily in Suez.


Yes, the Suez "crisis". Serving foreign interests back then

That was serving their own interests given they had built the canal.

and now nothing has changed.

Quite a bit has, actually. Even you should have noticed that
Britain hasnt been running Egypt for quite a while now.

UK and France went to war to fight (again and
again) for issues that were not in our interests.

Thats very arguable with the canal.

The UK foreign policy has always failed, even the
foriegn office admitted that about 3 years ago.

Like hell they did on your always.

UK armed forces are bleeding soldiers because
they do not want to fight for non UK issues.

Its bleeding soldiers because the unemployment rate is so low.

You should stop watching the bbc,

Hard to do when I dont ever watch it.

it is as factually correct as its master the daily mail.

Even sillier than you usually manage, and that's saying something.

A puppet regime will never serve the country interests and the UK armed
forces openly admit why
recruitment drive is failing: soldiers are openly saying we are no
longer
going to fight
for something that is non British.

Bull****.

I work with British soldiers rehab.

The technical term for that is 'pathetically inadequate sample'

You can **** off as you know less than
pig **** you sad little ignorant ****.

Wota stunning line in rational argument you have there, child.

You cannot prove anything.

Neither can you, child.

School has started yet for you.

Try that again in english, child.



It that the best you can come out with. No proof, but wait you must
be using the tabloid "history" book where the UK did nothing
to fight against the "our boys" puppet 1939-45.
It is really funny that you really believe you have some
form of coherence.
What is your mental age? 10!!
Now then stamp your foot on the ground and claim some more lies.