On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:49:18 +0100, T i m wrote:

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 18:44:55 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

snip

The only way to resolve the issue is too allow a democratic vote on the
deal, no deal or stay.

Yup. That would be the standard / democratic way, after a poll and
could have easily been part of the original poll.

Leavers are too scared they will lose to want that.

They were caught out (along with Farrage) that they actually won (all
be it only just).

Anyone in their right mind would realise a margin that close alongside
the BS surrounding the whole farce and the likelihood that the racists
/ activists (neither group actually representing 'the people'), along
with those placing a protest vote against the government and the
gullible (£350m/pw and hoards of immigrants etc) could easily swing it
... especially when the thought of a Leave win was never seriously
considered likely by many? So what really makes me laugh is hearing
the fanatic Brexiteers or even poor Mrs May say 'The public voted' as
if it was something that the vast majority agreed on? All this cost,
angst, BS and all because of 4% of those who voted. ;-(

Now, had either group gained a supermajority I don't think we would
still be in the position we are now as 'everyone' (locally and
Internationally) would see that 'most people' were behind it.

Cheers, T i m

I heard someone on the radio a few days ago saying her mum had voted
Brexit because she had been told that 80 million Turks were going to
be coming here.

MM

On 26/09/18 09:35, MM wrote:
I heard someone on the radio a few days ago saying her mum had voted
Brexit because she had been told that 80 million Turks were going to
be coming here.


I was told by an 18 year old schoolgiorl that we had to remain or we
'wouldn't be able to buy stuff'.


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On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 09:52:39 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 26/09/18 09:35, MM wrote:
I heard someone on the radio a few days ago saying her mum had voted
Brexit because she had been told that 80 million Turks were going to
be coming here.


I was told by an 18 year old schoolgiorl that we had to remain or we
'wouldn't be able to buy stuff'.

Yup, highlighting exactly why I didn't vote because like them, I
wasn't aware of the facts.

Let's wait till we find out what the final options will be and vote on
those facts, not bogus promises and lies.

Cheers, T i m

On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 11:48:25 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 09:52:39 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 26/09/18 09:35, MM wrote:
I heard someone on the radio a few days ago saying her mum had voted
Brexit because she had been told that 80 million Turks were going to
be coming here.


I was told by an 18 year old schoolgiorl that we had to remain or we
'wouldn't be able to buy stuff'.

Yup, highlighting exactly why I didn't vote because like them, I
wasn't aware of the facts.

Let's wait till we find out what the final options will be and vote on
those facts, not bogus promises and lies.

Cheers, T i m

The problem was/is that a remain vote wouldn't have given us these facts or any facts, only a leave vote meant that things would be discussed and hopefully facts would emerge.

On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 04:24:02 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave
wrote:

On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 11:48:25 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 09:52:39 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 26/09/18 09:35, MM wrote:
I heard someone on the radio a few days ago saying her mum had voted
Brexit because she had been told that 80 million Turks were going to
be coming here.


I was told by an 18 year old schoolgiorl that we had to remain or we
'wouldn't be able to buy stuff'.

Yup, highlighting exactly why I didn't vote because like them, I
wasn't aware of the facts.

Let's wait till we find out what the final options will be and vote on
those facts, not bogus promises and lies.

Cheers, T i m

The problem was/is that a remain vote wouldn't have given us these facts or any facts, only a leave vote meant that things would be discussed and hopefully facts would emerge.

And now they have, let's see what people think we should do. I'm sure
that a sizable majority now want to remain in the EU.

MM

On 27/09/18 09:13, MM wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 04:24:02 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave
wrote:

On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 11:48:25 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 09:52:39 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 26/09/18 09:35, MM wrote:
I heard someone on the radio a few days ago saying her mum had voted
Brexit because she had been told that 80 million Turks were going to
be coming here.


I was told by an 18 year old schoolgirl that we had to remain or we
'wouldn't be able to buy stuff'.

Yup, highlighting exactly why I didn't vote because like them, I
wasn't aware of the facts.

Let's wait till we find out what the final options will be and vote on
those facts, not bogus promises and lies.

Cheers, T i m

The problem was/is that a remain vote wouldn't have given us these facts or any facts, only a leave vote meant that things would be discussed and hopefully facts would emerge.

And now they have, let's see what people think we should do. I'm sure
that a sizable majority now want to remain in the EU.


I'm sure that a sizeable (sp) majority do not.

(How come illiteracy is so rife in remoaners)

MM



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on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer
projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/09/18 09:35, MM wrote:
I heard someone on the radio a few days ago saying her mum had voted
Brexit because she had been told that 80 million Turks were going to
be coming here.


I was told by an 18 year old schoolgiorl that we had to remain or we
'wouldn't be able to buy stuff'.

But when you say a large percentage of the electorate didn't understand
the issues, you get told you're being elitist. And I'm willing to bet
everyone on here understands them rather more that than they did before.
Even if not changing their minds.

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 09:34:58 UTC+1, MM wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:49:18 +0100, T i m wrote:

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 18:44:55 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

snip

The only way to resolve the issue is too allow a democratic vote on the
deal, no deal or stay.

Yup. That would be the standard / democratic way, after a poll and
could have easily been part of the original poll.

Leavers are too scared they will lose to want that.

They were caught out (along with Farrage) that they actually won (all
be it only just).

Anyone in their right mind would realise a margin that close alongside
the BS surrounding the whole farce and the likelihood that the racists
/ activists (neither group actually representing 'the people'), along
with those placing a protest vote against the government and the
gullible (£350m/pw and hoards of immigrants etc) could easily swing it
... especially when the thought of a Leave win was never seriously
considered likely by many? So what really makes me laugh is hearing
the fanatic Brexiteers or even poor Mrs May say 'The public voted' as
if it was something that the vast majority agreed on? All this cost,
angst, BS and all because of 4% of those who voted. ;-(

Now, had either group gained a supermajority I don't think we would
still be in the position we are now as 'everyone' (locally and
Internationally) would see that 'most people' were behind it.

Cheers, T i m

I heard someone on the radio a few days ago saying her mum had voted
Brexit because she had been told that 80 million Turks were going to
be coming here.

MM

Could be almost true. Merkel needs to send her excess migrants somewhere.

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On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 09:34:58 UTC+1, MM wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:49:18 +0100, T i m wrote:

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 18:44:55 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

snip

The only way to resolve the issue is too allow a democratic vote on the
deal, no deal or stay.

Yup. That would be the standard / democratic way, after a poll and
could have easily been part of the original poll.

Leavers are too scared they will lose to want that.

They were caught out (along with Farrage) that they actually won (all
be it only just).

Anyone in their right mind would realise a margin that close alongside
the BS surrounding the whole farce and the likelihood that the racists
/ activists (neither group actually representing 'the people'), along
with those placing a protest vote against the government and the
gullible (£350m/pw and hoards of immigrants etc) could easily swing it
... especially when the thought of a Leave win was never seriously
considered likely by many? So what really makes me laugh is hearing
the fanatic Brexiteers or even poor Mrs May say 'The public voted' as
if it was something that the vast majority agreed on? All this cost,
angst, BS and all because of 4% of those who voted. ;-(

Now, had either group gained a supermajority I don't think we would
still be in the position we are now as 'everyone' (locally and
Internationally) would see that 'most people' were behind it.

I heard someone on the radio a few days ago saying her mum had voted
Brexit because she had been told that 80 million Turks were going to
be coming here.

Could be almost true. Merkel needs to send her excess migrants somewhere.

She doesnt have an excess, thats why she invited 1M illegals to her
country, stupid.

On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 05:33:23 +1000, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:


Could be almost true. Merkel needs to send her excess migrants somewhere.

She doesn¢t have an excess, that¢s why she invited 1M illegals to her
country, stupid.

It's not "her" country, senile idiot! The Germans (and many German
politicians) are more or less fed up with her.

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blabbermouth! LOL):
"But it can make a lot more sense to realise that the
really stupid will get the operation they bought
the phone from to set it up so it can be used
than to try to explain to the most stupid who
don¢t even understand what a sim is for how to
get something so small and fiddly into an iphone."
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