On 10/07/2018 15:57, Mark wrote:
On 10 Jul 2018 13:10:27 GMT, Huge wrote:

New Brexit secretary Dominic Raab wanted UK to negotiate with EU to scrap workers' rights

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8438706.html

Please with yourselves, Brexitards?

Still, I suppose it'll make it easier to chuck people out on the streets
once all the manufacturing industry leaves.

Frying Pan ---- Fire



Airbus have backed the wrong horse with the A380 that no-one is
buying so they just want an excuse to cut back. It's always
much cheaper to cull jobs in the UK, because we don't go out
and block all the motorways with burning tyres like they do
over in France.

On 10/07/2018 16:18, Andrew wrote:
On 10/07/2018 15:57, Mark wrote:
On 10 Jul 2018 13:10:27 GMT, Huge wrote:

New Brexit secretary Dominic Raab wanted UK to negotiate with EU to
scrap workers' rights

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8438706.html


Please with yourselves, Brexitards?

Still, I suppose it'll make it easier to chuck people out on the streets
once all the manufacturing industry leaves.

Frying Pan ---- Fire



Airbus have backed the wrong horse with the A380 that no-one is
buying so they just want an excuse to cut back. It's always
much cheaper to cull jobs in the UK, because we don't go out
and block all the motorways with burning tyres like they do
over in France.

Which is also one of the reasons why its much cheaper to create jobs
here (that and we have a vast flexible skilled labour market in
comparison to France.

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On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 16:18:58 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 10/07/2018 15:57, Mark wrote:
On 10 Jul 2018 13:10:27 GMT, Huge wrote:

New Brexit secretary Dominic Raab wanted UK to negotiate with EU to scrap workers' rights

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8438706.html

Please with yourselves, Brexitards?

Still, I suppose it'll make it easier to chuck people out on the streets
once all the manufacturing industry leaves.

Frying Pan ---- Fire



Airbus have backed the wrong horse with the A380 that no-one is
buying so they just want an excuse to cut back. It's always
much cheaper to cull jobs in the UK, because we don't go out
and block all the motorways with burning tyres like they do
over in France.

We dont invest in people either. Spend damn all on training, you have
a very flexible workforce. All interchangeable and as disposable as a
aldi twin blade.

AB

On 10/07/2018 16:18, Andrew wrote:
On 10/07/2018 15:57, Mark wrote:
On 10 Jul 2018 13:10:27 GMT, Huge wrote:

New Brexit secretary Dominic Raab wanted UK to negotiate with EU to
scrap workers' rights

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8438706.html


Please with yourselves, Brexitards?

Still, I suppose it'll make it easier to chuck people out on the streets
once all the manufacturing industry leaves.

Frying Pan ---- Fire



Airbus have backed the wrong horse with the A380 that no-one is
buying so they just want an excuse to cut back. It's always
much cheaper to cull jobs in the UK, because we don't go out
and block all the motorways with burning tyres like they do
over in France.

I don't know if it is still the case, but back in 1997, a very
successful UK office and factory in Manchester closed, losing around 500
jobs, purely because it was too expensive to close the French plant,
where they'd have had to pay everyone 3-years redundancy pay!

SteveW

On 10/07/2018 21:53, Steve Walker wrote:


I don't know if it is still the case, but back in 1997, a very
successful UK office and factory in Manchester closed, losing around 500
jobs, purely because it was too expensive to close the French plant,
where they'd have had to pay everyone 3-years redundancy pay!

Redundancy is usually based on a number of weeks salary for every full
year worked.

It seems that the statutory minimum is France may be higher than that in
the UK, but not necessarily by much if you were earning £25K or less.

The difference may be with an ongoing business that it is a lot faster
process in the UK than in many other EU countries.

With an ongoing business the payments, even in the UK, for redundancy
may be a lot higher than the statutory minimum. Maybe in the case above
the French workers/union had previously negotiated a much better
redundancy package. The French workers may have been with the same
company a lot longer.

I've accepted a voluntary redundancy package at equivalent of 80 weeks
at my final annual salary amount. The UK statutory minimum would have
given me the equivalent of 10 weeks at my final annual salary. The UK
statutory minimum not only limits the number of years but also limits
the amount of salary used in the calculation.

UK
https://www.gov.uk/redundant-your-rights/redundancy-pay

France
https://www.eurofound.europa.eu/obse...y-compensation
(there is a union flag in the top RH corner for an English translation)

Italy (3.8 weeks payment for every year worked)
https://www.eurofound.europa.eu/obse...y-compensation

Germany
https://www.eurofound.europa.eu/obse...y-compensation.

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On 10/07/2018 21:53, Steve Walker wrote:
On 10/07/2018 16:18, Andrew wrote:
On 10/07/2018 15:57, Mark wrote:
On 10 Jul 2018 13:10:27 GMT, Huge wrote:

New Brexit secretary Dominic Raab wanted UK to negotiate with EU to
scrap workers' rights

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8438706.html


Please with yourselves, Brexitards?

Still, I suppose it'll make it easier to chuck people out on the
streets
once all the manufacturing industry leaves.

Frying Pan ---- Fire



Airbus have backed the wrong horse with the A380 that no-one is
buying so they just want an excuse to cut back. It's always
much cheaper to cull jobs in the UK, because we don't go out
and block all the motorways with burning tyres like they do
over in France.

I don't know if it is still the case, but back in 1997, a very
successful UK office and factory in Manchester closed, losing around 500
jobs, purely because it was too expensive to close the French plant,
where they'd have had to pay everyone 3-years redundancy pay!

SteveW

It was the same when Massey Ferguson had to choose between closing
the historic tractor plant in Coventry or the one over in France.

Coventry got the chop and the French plant got lots more
investment.

On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 14:27:32 +0100, Andrew wrote:

It was the same when Massey Ferguson had to choose between closing
the historic tractor plant in Coventry or the one over in France.


Coventry got the chop and the French plant got lots more
investment.

Well French productivity is much better than the UKs.

On 12/07/18 20:08, mechanic wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 14:27:32 +0100, Andrew wrote:

It was the same when Massey Ferguson had to choose between closing
the historic tractor plant in Coventry or the one over in France.


Coventry got the chop and the French plant got lots more
investment.

Well French productivity is much better than the UKs.

ROFLMAO!



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true: it is true because it is powerful."

Lucas Bergkamp

mechanic wrote
Andrew wrote

It was the same when Massey Ferguson had to choose between closing
the historic tractor plant in Coventry or the one over in France.

Coventry got the chop and the French plant got lots more investment.

Well French productivity is much better than the UKs.

And the Coventry plant was one hell of a dinosaur too.