Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.

On 17/06/2018 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

Possibly with the consequence that people will jump the lights in a car
before going green and hit the car jumping the lights after red.


An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.


Or possibly more difficult when replacing existing curbs or when one
gets damaged after a heavy goods vehicle has mounted the curb.

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On 17/06/2018 15:50, alan_m wrote:
On 17/06/2018 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

Possibly with the consequence that people will jump the lights in a car
before going green and hit the car jumping the lights after red.

If the timer doesn't faithfully represent the time to green this is
certainly a possibility. Otherwise its a brilliant idea and I've never
seen a car jumping the lights with these countdowns.

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.


Or possibly more difficult when replacing existing curbs or when one
gets damaged after a heavy goods vehicle has mounted the curb.

It could even be reinforced so it doesn't break.

With regard to crossings. There are now some that interface with an app on a
smart phone for the pedestrian to help you find them and alert you of their
mode at a given time using blutooth I understand.There are moves afoot to
try to agree an international standard. It wold certainly help blind people
who no longer would need to either hear the bleeps not knowing if they aare
even there or hang on to a little rotating cone under the box.
Brian

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On 17/06/2018 15:50, alan_m wrote:
On 17/06/2018 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

Possibly with the consequence that people will jump the lights in a car
before going green and hit the car jumping the lights after red.

If the timer doesn't faithfully represent the time to green this is
certainly a possibility. Otherwise its a brilliant idea and I've never
seen a car jumping the lights with these countdowns.

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.


Or possibly more difficult when replacing existing curbs or when one gets
damaged after a heavy goods vehicle has mounted the curb.

It could even be reinforced so it doesn't break.

I imagine they are mirror image either end so I'd not see that as an issue,
though when you get to dropped curbs it kind of ties you in to one supplier
of these things.

Given all te tactile rules being different almost everywhere I'd imagine it
could be a bit of a nightmare if youwanted to sell internationally.
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On 17/06/2018 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

Possibly with the consequence that people will jump the lights in a car
before going green and hit the car jumping the lights after red.


An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.


Or possibly more difficult when replacing existing curbs or when one gets
damaged after a heavy goods vehicle has mounted the curb.

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On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 15:50:54 +0100, alan_m
wrote:

On 17/06/2018 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

Possibly with the consequence that people will jump the lights in a car
before going green and hit the car jumping the lights after red.


Where I've seen it the exact opposite occured and there was no edging
forward in a mistimed expectation of a green light showing.

I don't recall noticing any issue with cars jumping the red. Maybe
they learnt to realise they would get hit? Or maybe there was a
longer delay between the opposing red and the forthcoming green.























An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.


Or possibly more difficult when replacing existing curbs or when one
gets damaged after a heavy goods vehicle has mounted the curb.

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AnthonyL wrote:
I don't recall noticing any issue with cars jumping the red.

You're very lucky round your way, then. Happens all the time these days.
Making it even slower for traffic waiting to turn right.

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On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:31:15 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
AnthonyL wrote:
I don't recall noticing any issue with cars jumping the red.

You're very lucky round your way, then. Happens all the time these days.
Making it even slower for traffic waiting to turn right.


That was a big snip from what I was saying.

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AnthonyL wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:31:15 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
AnthonyL wrote:
I don't recall noticing any issue with cars jumping the red.

You're very lucky round your way, then. Happens all the time these days.
Making it even slower for traffic waiting to turn right.


That was a big snip from what I was saying.

Jumping a red means failing to stop when told. Starting off early would be
jumping the green.

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"alan_m" wrote in message
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On 17/06/2018 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

Possibly with the consequence that people will jump the lights in a car
before going green and hit the car jumping the lights after red.

I don't think they put them in the driver's view, only pedestrians

tim

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tim... wrote:


"alan_m" wrote in message
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On 17/06/2018 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why
the idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been
count-down displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

Possibly with the consequence that people will jump the lights in a
car before going green and hit the car jumping the lights after red.

I don't think they put them in the driver's view, only pedestrians

Pretty well all of then round here can be read by drivers too.

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On 18/06/2018 13:52, tim... wrote:


"alan_m" wrote in message
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On 17/06/2018 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

Possibly with the consequence that people will jump the lights in a
car before going green and hit the car jumping the lights after red.

I don't think they put them in the driver's view, only pedestrians

In full view in Havana and in Ecuador several years ago.

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In article 6,
DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

these have turned up in central London - for the benefit of tourists, no
doubt.

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.

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One weird import that I understand is around in other countries is the
'inlink' street terminal. This magnificent piece of hard ware has an lcd
screen mainly used for advertising which is very bright. A charging bay for
phones and tablets, an actual telephone but with loudspeaker and touch
buttons and often much more.
Its started to appear here in Kingston upon thames and has wifi and also
often a seat nearby.
The term jack of all trades master of none comes to mind . No call is
private as it can be heard by the world and his wife and is free subsidised
by the adverts.
For a town which talks about decluttering the streets this seems an odd
move to me.

Brian

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In article 6,
DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

these have turned up in central London - for the benefit of tourists, no
doubt.

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.

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In article 6,
DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

Count down for the pedestrian side have been around here for years.
Not a good idea for traffic, given how many jump the lights.

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On 17/06/2018 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

Doncaster has them on some pedestrian crossing.

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.

Just goes to show how lazy the Italians are.


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Who invented armadillos for lane segregation of a cycle lane? These look
apparently like bits of car tyre raised up through the road surface
designed not to damage vehicles. The trouble is that they also do not really
work to make cyclists feel safe from traffic either and look bloody awful.
Then who decided to have floating bus stops? These are where you have a
cycle lane but the bus has to stay on the road, so you have to cross the
cycle lane to find the stop, but often for a blind person there is now no
flag on the pavement to indicate where the bus stop is, and neither are
there standards of tactile or which direction from a crossing the buss stop
is, no railings either so you can walk straight off into traffic. Signage is
sparse for cyclists so the think they have right of way and mow the blindy
down.
The problem in the worlds seems to be a complete lack of standards and
indeed awareness that all pavement and public transport users are not able
bodied youths.
Brian

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On 17/06/2018 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

Doncaster has them on some pedestrian crossing.

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.

Just goes to show how lazy the Italians are.


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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 07:48:55 +0100, "Brian Gaff"

wrote:

Who invented armadillos for lane segregation of a cycle lane? These look
apparently like bits of car tyre raised up through the road surface
designed not to damage vehicles.

The Dutch use large brick things that are placed every two metres along
the edge
of the cycle lane.

Must be great for the tyres if you run into one accidentally, say
when someone else does something stupid.

They also have raised lines instead of just white lines
marking the lanes on roundabouts. They make drivers take the right route
through
the roundabouts.

On 19/06/2018 12:31, Martin wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 04:35:50 +1000, "Jim Ross" wrote:



"Martin" wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 07:48:55 +0100, "Brian Gaff"

wrote:

Who invented armadillos for lane segregation of a cycle lane? These look
apparently like bits of car tyre raised up through the road surface
designed not to damage vehicles.

The Dutch use large brick things that are placed every two metres along
the edge
of the cycle lane.

Must be great for the tyres if you run into one accidentally, say
when someone else does something stupid.

Better than running over a cyclist?


Only sex and alcohol are better than running over a cyclist.

It's my third favourite pastime.



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On 18/06/18 11:39, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 19:41:13 +0100, ARW wrote:

On 17/06/2018 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

Doncaster has them on some pedestrian crossing.

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.

Just goes to show how lazy the Italians are.

WTF has that got to do with laziness?


You're not English/British are you?

On 18/06/18 17:37, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 16:33:43 +0100, Richard
wrote:

On 18/06/18 11:39, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 19:41:13 +0100, ARW wrote:

On 17/06/2018 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

Doncaster has them on some pedestrian crossing.

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.

Just goes to show how lazy the Italians are.

WTF has that got to do with laziness?


You're not English/British are you?

Of course I am, but have lived abroad long enough to not use UK stereo types.

Now answer my question.

No.

On 18/06/2018 11:39, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 19:41:13 +0100, ARW wrote:

On 17/06/2018 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

Doncaster has them on some pedestrian crossing.

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.

Just goes to show how lazy the Italians are.

WTF has that got to do with laziness?


Too lazy to lay proper kerb stones set in the floor with concrete..

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On 17/06/18 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.

In France they have stretches of motorway (10 to 20kms) where lorries
are not allowed to overtake each other. I think the police must take
offenders aside and shoot them because you don't get lorries passing at
the glacial pace the do here.

Another Dave

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On 17/06/2018 19:56, Another Dave wrote:
On 17/06/18 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.

In France they have stretches of motorway (10 to 20kms) where lorries
are not allowed to overtake each other. I think the police must take
offenders aside and shoot them because you don't get lorries passing at
the glacial pace the do here.

There are some dual carriageways here too where lorries are not allowed
in the inside lane. Parts of the A42 come to mind.

Fredxx wrote:
On 17/06/2018 19:56, Another Dave wrote:
On 17/06/18 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.

In France they have stretches of motorway (10 to 20kms) where lorries
are not allowed to overtake each other. I think the police must take
offenders aside and shoot them because you don't get lorries passing at
the glacial pace the do here.

The 'glacial pace' is hardly the lorry drivers' fault, it's simply
down to the speed governor on the lorry.

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Fredxx wrote:
On 17/06/2018 19:56, Another Dave wrote:
On 17/06/18 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.

In France they have stretches of motorway (10 to 20kms) where lorries
are not allowed to overtake each other. I think the police must take
offenders aside and shoot them because you don't get lorries passing at
the glacial pace the do here.

The 'glacial pace' is hardly the lorry drivers' fault, it's simply
down to the speed governor on the lorry.

So why doesn't the guy on the inside lift his foot for half a minute?


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Chris Green wrote:
Fredxx wrote:
On 17/06/2018 19:56, Another Dave wrote:
On 17/06/18 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.

In France they have stretches of motorway (10 to 20kms) where lorries
are not allowed to overtake each other. I think the police must take
offenders aside and shoot them because you don't get lorries passing at
the glacial pace the do here.

The 'glacial pace' is hardly the lorry drivers' fault, it's simply
down to the speed governor on the lorry.


Its the €œglacial pace of overtaking€� rather than absolute speed thats the
problem. Two lorries overtaking on a dual carriageway can form a rolling
roadblock that can last for miles if theyre really pig-headed.

Tim

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On 18/06/2018 10:41, Tim+ wrote:
Chris Green wrote:
Fredxx wrote:
On 17/06/2018 19:56, Another Dave wrote:
On 17/06/18 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.

In France they have stretches of motorway (10 to 20kms) where lorries
are not allowed to overtake each other. I think the police must take
offenders aside and shoot them because you don't get lorries passing at
the glacial pace the do here.

The 'glacial pace' is hardly the lorry drivers' fault, it's simply
down to the speed governor on the lorry.


Its the €œglacial pace of overtaking€� rather than absolute speed thats the
problem. Two lorries overtaking on a dual carriageway can form a rolling
roadblock that can last for miles if theyre really pig-headed.

Yes, I once had a pair like that on an otherwise empty road at 04:30,
for 8.5 miles!

SteveW

On 17/06/2018 20:16, Chris Green wrote:
Fredxx wrote:
On 17/06/2018 19:56, Another Dave wrote:
On 17/06/18 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.

In France they have stretches of motorway (10 to 20kms) where lorries
are not allowed to overtake each other. I think the police must take
offenders aside and shoot them because you don't get lorries passing at
the glacial pace the do here.

The 'glacial pace' is hardly the lorry drivers' fault, it's simply
down to the speed governor on the lorry.


Of course its the drivers fault, he knows its going to happen and still
does it.
Just an ignorant bstard.

On 17/06/2018 20:16, Chris Green wrote:
The 'glacial pace' is hardly the lorry drivers' fault, it's simply
down to the speed governor on the lorry.

It's their fault.

If they are driving at 56, and they catch a guy driving at 55.5 they
ought to slow down a tad and sit behind him, not pull out and stop
everyone else.

But that would show common sense and courtesy.

Andy

Jethro_uk wrote:

Chris Green wrote:

The 'glacial pace' is hardly the lorry drivers' fault, it's simply down
to the speed governor on the lorry.

So why overtake in the first place ?

Because sitting behind involves constant adjustment of accelerator or
cruise control, but planting their foot and letting the governor sit on
the limit while creeping past the lorry in front is 'easier'.

An adaptive cruise control that let them sit behind the truck in front,
without any driver input, even if it was +/- 1 or 2 mph of the governor
might actually help.

On 18/06/18 11:47, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 20:20:32 -0000 (UTC), Jethro_uk
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 20:16:57 +0100, Chris Green wrote:

Fredxx wrote:
On 17/06/2018 19:56, Another Dave wrote:
On 17/06/18 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why
the idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been
count-down displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue
and groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation
easier.

In France they have stretches of motorway (10 to 20kms) where lorries
are not allowed to overtake each other. I think the police must take
offenders aside and shoot them because you don't get lorries passing
at the glacial pace the do here.

The 'glacial pace' is hardly the lorry drivers' fault, it's simply down
to the speed governor on the lorry.

So why overtake in the first place ?

A question I have asked myself over and over again :-)


Stop asking if you couldn't be bothered to reply then.

On 18/06/18 17:38, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 16:35:18 +0100, Richard
wrote:

On 18/06/18 11:47, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 20:20:32 -0000 (UTC), Jethro_uk
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 20:16:57 +0100, Chris Green wrote:

Fredxx wrote:
On 17/06/2018 19:56, Another Dave wrote:
On 17/06/18 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why
the idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been
count-down displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue
and groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation
easier.

In France they have stretches of motorway (10 to 20kms) where lorries
are not allowed to overtake each other. I think the police must take
offenders aside and shoot them because you don't get lorries passing
at the glacial pace the do here.

The 'glacial pace' is hardly the lorry drivers' fault, it's simply down
to the speed governor on the lorry.

So why overtake in the first place ?

A question I have asked myself over and over again :-)


Stop asking if you couldn't be bothered to reply then.

I did reply.

Well then, you couldn't have been satisfied with the answer.

Another Dave wrote in newsg6at8$85l$1@dont-
email.me:

On 17/06/18 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why
the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-
down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue
and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.

In France they have stretches of motorway (10 to 20kms) where lorries
are not allowed to overtake each other. I think the police must take
offenders aside and shoot them because you don't get lorries passing
at
the glacial pace the do here.

Another Dave


I saw this on the M42 here yesterday - for a few miles on a slight up
hill gradient.

On 17/06/2018 15:42, DerbyBorn wrote:
Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.


We (in the UK) seem unable to copy ideas from overseas which are good
but happily adopt bad ones ;-(

I recall joking to a German that they would learn that trams were a bad
idea and scrap them. I didn't realise Germans lack our sense of humour.

Likewise, every time I see a 'bendy bus' in a French City I am reminded
that they are unsuitable for use in cities, which is why Boris got rid
of them. (They cope fine with narrow streets etc in France.)

Plus, of course, there is the attitude to alcohol and licensing laws
etc. You simply don't see the drunken behaviour we have here elsewhere
in Europe, at least unless it is Brits.

Brian Reay wrote
DerbyBorn wrote

Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder why the
idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been count-down
displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.


We (in the UK) seem unable to copy ideas from overseas which are good

Could have sworn you did with mobile phones,
credit cards, nuclear weapons, etc etc etc.

but happily adopt bad ones ;-(

I recall joking to a German that they would learn that trams were a bad
idea and scrap them. I didn't realise Germans lack our sense of humour.

Likewise, every time I see a 'bendy bus' in a French City I am reminded
that they are unsuitable for use in cities, which is why Boris got rid
of them. (They cope fine with narrow streets etc in France.)

Plus, of course, there is the attitude to alcohol and licensing
laws etc. You simply don't see the drunken behaviour we
have here elsewhere in Europe, at least unless it is Brits.

On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 07:29:42 +1000, cantankerous geezer Rot Speed blabbered,
again:

We (in the UK) seem unable to copy ideas from overseas which are good

Could have sworn you did with mobile phones,
credit cards, nuclear weapons, etc etc etc.

Some people swear you are an argumentative asshole, Rot!

--
Sqwertz to Rot Speed:
"This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative
asshole.
MID:

On 17/06/2018 20:24, Brian Reay wrote:
(They cope fine with narrow streets etc in France.)

They don't cope with any narrow streets that are also
infested with too many cars and other vehicles.

Do they use them in central Paris ?.

DerbyBorn wrote

Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder
why the idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been
count-down displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

Yeah, useful idea.

An idea I just saw in Italy was Pre-cast Curb Stones with a tongue and
groove a the end so they interlocked. Must make installation easier.

We pour ours into formwork.

On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 05:41:14 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

DerbyBorn wrote

Sometimes one sees ideas when on holiday and it makes you wonder
why the idea is not more commonplace. An obvious one to me has been
count-down displays on Traffic Lights (and/or the Pedestrian Light)

Yeah, useful idea.

You pesky senile oaf need a count-down display on your watch showing the
remaining time for you! That MIGHT make you a bit less irascible!