Well, I finally got the old housing off, using a combination of brute
force, pig ignorance and heat from a blow lamp. New one arrived and
fitted. OK so far ... until the same thing happened at the other end,
where the heater control valve sits on the head, at the back. The pipe
just fell off, that spigot having disintegrated, too. Oh, and having
disturbed the bottom radiator hose, that now leaks.

Hey ho. New parts in the post. Trouble with older cars - you disturb
something, and bits start failing.
--
Graeme

In article ,
Graeme wrote:

Well, I finally got the old housing off, using a combination of brute
force, pig ignorance and heat from a blow lamp. New one arrived and
fitted. OK so far ... until the same thing happened at the other end,
where the heater control valve sits on the head, at the back. The pipe
just fell off, that spigot having disintegrated, too. Oh, and having
disturbed the bottom radiator hose, that now leaks.

Hey ho. New parts in the post. Trouble with older cars - you disturb
something, and bits start failing.

Do wonder about previous maintenance, though. Generally the thermostat
will need replacing often enough to keep the housing free. And did it
always use a good quality anti-freeze to prevent internal corrosion?
Likely not since at one time anti-freeze caused corrosion. ;-)

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On 12/04/18 13:57, Graeme wrote:

Well, I finally got the old housing off, using a combination of brute
force, pig ignorance and heat from a blow lamp.Â* New one arrived and
fitted.Â* OK so far ... until the same thing happened at the other end,
where the heater control valve sits on the head, at the back.Â* The pipe
just fell off, that spigot having disintegrated, too.Â* Oh, and having
disturbed the bottom radiator hose, that now leaks.

Hey ho.Â* New parts in the post.Â* Trouble with older cars - you disturb
something, and bits start failing.
They were like that when relatively new. Our maxim became 'When in doubt
hoick it out'

And strip it on the bench and replace ALL the dodgy bits


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kind word alone.

Al Capone

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Graeme wrote:

Hey ho. New parts in the post. Trouble with older cars - you disturb
something, and bits start failing.

Do wonder about previous maintenance, though. Generally the thermostat
will need replacing often enough to keep the housing free. And did it
always use a good quality anti-freeze to prevent internal corrosion?
Likely not since at one time anti-freeze caused corrosion. ;-)

Dave, I have owned the car since November 1996 and yes, it has always
received good quality anti freeze since then, although I don't know the
condition of the parts when I bought it. It has received general
maintenance and servicing since then, but no major overhauls. Only done
7k miles in the last 22 years, and was garaged and unused from 98 until
about ten years ago. Since then, just a few miles a year.
--
Graeme

In article ,
Graeme wrote:
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Graeme wrote:

Hey ho. New parts in the post. Trouble with older cars - you disturb
something, and bits start failing.

Do wonder about previous maintenance, though. Generally the thermostat
will need replacing often enough to keep the housing free. And did it
always use a good quality anti-freeze to prevent internal corrosion?
Likely not since at one time anti-freeze caused corrosion. ;-)

Dave, I have owned the car since November 1996 and yes, it has always
received good quality anti freeze since then, although I don't know the
condition of the parts when I bought it. It has received general
maintenance and servicing since then, but no major overhauls. Only done
7k miles in the last 22 years, and was garaged and unused from 98 until
about ten years ago. Since then, just a few miles a year.

Sounds lovely. ;-)

I do remember my days of A series engines, and many of the 'aluminium'
looking parts in the water jacket would have pretty severe signs of
corrosion. Like the internals of the water pump. Later anti-freeze (really
made for all ally engines) tended to be pretty good at preventing
corrosion on most materials in use. Until plastic came along with its own
problems. ;-)

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Dave Plowman London SW
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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes

I do remember my days of A series engines, and many of the 'aluminium'
looking parts in the water jacket would have pretty severe signs of
corrosion. Like the internals of the water pump. Later anti-freeze (really
made for all ally engines) tended to be pretty good at preventing
corrosion on most materials in use. Until plastic came along with its own
problems. ;-)

Making progress. Got the bottom hose off, and yes, I can see the split.
Also got the heater valve off, and although the spigot (right word?) had
completely corroded away, the assembly itself just lifted off the block.
That, of course, was after I had undone the nuts, which was after
removing the battery to gain access ...

I'm not complaining, though. The car has cost me very little to run,
apart from the usual consumables. The coil exploded once, the fuel
gauge works sometimes and a few other little niggles that I'll sort one
day, other than that, all OK.
--
Graeme

On 12/04/2018 17:08, Graeme wrote:
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes

I do remember my days of A series engines, and many of the 'aluminium'
looking parts in the water jacket would have pretty severe signs of
corrosion. Like the internals of the water pump. Later anti-freeze
(really
made for all ally engines) tended to be pretty good at preventing
corrosion on most materials in use. Until plastic came along with its own
problems. ;-)

Making progress. Got the bottom hose off, and yes, I can see the split.
Also got the heater valve off, and although the spigot (right word?) had
completely corroded away, the assembly itself just lifted off the block.
That, of course, was after I had undone the nuts, which was after
removing the battery to gain access ...

I'm not complaining, though. The car has cost me very little to run,
apart from the usual consumables. The coil exploded once, the fuel gauge
works sometimes and a few other little niggles that I'll sort one day,
other than that, all OK.

While you're at it, check the by-pass hose. This is a short small
diameter vertical hose from just under the thermostat housing down to
the top of the water pump. These have a habit of failing at very
inconvenient times and places - as I know to my cost. They're a right
sod to fit 'cos they go between two metal pipes with only a short gap
between them to wangle the hose in. ISTR that the original hoses were
rigid, and could *only* be fitted with either the head or the water pump
removed, but you could buy concertina type replacements which could
*just* be fitted without any dismantling, but were still hellish fiddly.
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On Thursday, 12 April 2018 22:07:43 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 12/04/2018 17:08, Graeme wrote:
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes

I do remember my days of A series engines, and many of the 'aluminium'
looking parts in the water jacket would have pretty severe signs of
corrosion. Like the internals of the water pump. Later anti-freeze
(really
made for all ally engines) tended to be pretty good at preventing
corrosion on most materials in use. Until plastic came along with its own
problems. ;-)

Making progress. Got the bottom hose off, and yes, I can see the split.
Also got the heater valve off, and although the spigot (right word?) had
completely corroded away, the assembly itself just lifted off the block.
That, of course, was after I had undone the nuts, which was after
removing the battery to gain access ...

I'm not complaining, though. The car has cost me very little to run,
apart from the usual consumables. The coil exploded once, the fuel gauge
works sometimes and a few other little niggles that I'll sort one day,
other than that, all OK.

While you're at it, check the by-pass hose. This is a short small
diameter vertical hose from just under the thermostat housing down to
the top of the water pump. These have a habit of failing at very
inconvenient times and places - as I know to my cost. They're a right
sod to fit 'cos they go between two metal pipes with only a short gap
between them to wangle the hose in. ISTR that the original hoses were
rigid, and could *only* be fitted with either the head or the water pump
removed, but you could buy concertina type replacements which could
*just* be fitted without any dismantling, but were still hellish fiddly.
--

The later bypass hoses were corrugated.
The trick was to put them is hot water for a while before fitting.
This softened them and made the job a lot easier.

In message , Roger Mills
writes

While you're at it, check the by-pass hose.

Thanks Roger. You are right, of course, although when ordering parts
yesterday, I quietly ignored that hose, knowing what a pig it is to
change without more major dismantling. At the moment, it does not
appear to be leaking, although I think I will get a spare anyway,
knowing the condition of the bottom hose. One of the concertina ones
would be useful.

Just been talking to my brother, and telling him how my son is amazed
that, when doing stuff on the Morris, I can find almost any tool I need
in the shed. Will my lifetime's collection of tools ever be used after
my demise, or will they become landfill? We just don't see kids today
fixing old bangers in the way most of us did 40-50 years ago. Then
again, I open the bonnet of a modern car and quickly close it again.
Minors, Anglias and Cortinas were so relatively easy to work on.

--
Graeme

In message ,
harry writes

The later bypass hoses were corrugated.
The trick was to put them is hot water for a while before fitting.
This softened them and made the job a lot easier.

Thanks Harry. Will order a spare 'just in case'.
--
Graeme

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:43:06 +0000, Huge wrote:

On 2018-04-13, Graeme wrote:
In message ,
harry writes

The later bypass hoses were corrugated.
The trick was to put them is hot water for a while before fitting.
This softened them and made the job a lot easier.

Thanks Harry. Will order a spare 'just in case'.

IIRC (It's been a *long* time since I owned a Mini), there's trick with
the corrugated ones to fitting them, involving putting them in a 'G'
cramp and freezing them ...

ISTR using Swarfega to lubricate them...



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In message , Bob Eager
writes
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:43:06 +0000, Huge wrote:

IIRC (It's been a *long* time since I owned a Mini), there's trick with
the corrugated ones to fitting them, involving putting them in a 'G'
cramp and freezing them ...

ISTR using Swarfega to lubricate them...

Why did I ever start this ... :-)

--
Graeme

In article ,
Graeme wrote:
Thanks Roger. You are right, of course, although when ordering parts
yesterday, I quietly ignored that hose, knowing what a pig it is to
change without more major dismantling. At the moment, it does not
appear to be leaking, although I think I will get a spare anyway,
knowing the condition of the bottom hose. One of the concertina ones
would be useful.

I found on my many Minis that the concertina type being so much thinner
had a much shorter life than the original.

If i had one now I'd go for a silicone type. Would need dismantling to
fit, but should last for ever.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-13, Graeme wrote:

[11 lines snipped]

Just been talking to my brother, and telling him how my son is amazed
that, when doing stuff on the Morris, I can find almost any tool I need
in the shed. Will my lifetime's collection of tools ever be used after
my demise, or will they become landfill? We just don't see kids today
fixing old bangers in the way most of us did 40-50 years ago. Then
again, I open the bonnet of a modern car and quickly close it again.

I picked up my "new" (5 y/o) car, yesterday. I can't even see where the
spark plugs are, never mind get at them. (*) I do wish the manufacturers
would stop deleting dip-sticks, though. Not only is there no dipstick,
but I have to go through a stupid dance to check the oil level (warm
engine, stop engine, wait 10 minutes, access "oil level" function in
electronic dashboard.

(* And why should I pay £95/hr for someone to remove and replace all
those plastic covers over the engine? What are they even for?)

Thing is you may never need to access those plugs. Many have a 100,000
mile life. Covers to stop dirt, damage, etc may be no bad thing.
An electronic 'dipstick' can also give a warning if the oil level is low.
Many people simply ain't capable of using a dipstick and wouldn't know
where to find it anyway. Or add oil themselves.

-

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:43:06 +0000, Huge wrote:

On 2018-04-13, Graeme wrote:
In message ,
harry writes

The later bypass hoses were corrugated.
The trick was to put them is hot water for a while before fitting.
This softened them and made the job a lot easier.

Thanks Harry. Will order a spare 'just in case'.

IIRC (It's been a *long* time since I owned a Mini), there's trick with
the corrugated ones to fitting them, involving putting them in a 'G'
cramp and freezing them ...

ISTR using Swarfega to lubricate them...

Red 'brake' grease. Designed specifically to lubricate 'rubber'

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 13/04/18 10:18, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-13, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:43:06 +0000, Huge wrote:

On 2018-04-13, Graeme wrote:
In message ,
harry writes

The later bypass hoses were corrugated.
The trick was to put them is hot water for a while before fitting.
This softened them and made the job a lot easier.

Thanks Harry. Will order a spare 'just in case'.

IIRC (It's been a *long* time since I owned a Mini), there's trick with
the corrugated ones to fitting them, involving putting them in a 'G'
cramp and freezing them ...

ISTR using Swarfega to lubricate them...

I beg your pardon? D


A delicate mixture of parafin or disel, washing up liquid and sand.

Try it. Nothing better for getting ingrained oil off yer hands


--
Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the
gospel of envy.

Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Winston Churchill

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/04/18 10:18, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-13, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:43:06 +0000, Huge wrote:

On 2018-04-13, Graeme wrote:
In message ,
harry writes

The later bypass hoses were corrugated.
The trick was to put them is hot water for a while before fitting.
This softened them and made the job a lot easier.

Thanks Harry. Will order a spare 'just in case'.

IIRC (It's been a *long* time since I owned a Mini), there's trick with
the corrugated ones to fitting them, involving putting them in a 'G'
cramp and freezing them ...

ISTR using Swarfega to lubricate them...

I beg your pardon? D


A delicate mixture of parafin or disel, washing up liquid and sand.

Try it. Nothing better for getting ingrained oil off yer hands



Ive used a similar mixture but using granulated sugar instead of the sand,
Has the advantage that it washes away cleanly down the plug hole and
dissolves in hot water.
I would have thought sand would soon scratch any sink/basin when you came
to clean it and the risk that a lot of it may clog up the plumbing.

GH

On 13/04/2018 11:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/04/18 10:18, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-13, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:43:06 +0000, Huge wrote:

On 2018-04-13, Graeme wrote:
In message ,
harry writes

The later bypass hoses were corrugated.
The trick was to put them is hot water for a while before fitting.
This softened them and made the job a lot easier.

Thanks Harry. Will order a spare 'just in case'.

IIRC (It's been a *long* time since I owned a Mini), there's trick with
the corrugated ones to fitting them, involving putting them in a 'G'
cramp and freezing them ...

ISTR using Swarfega to lubricate them...

I beg your pardon? D


A delicate mixture of parafin or disel, washing up liquid and sand.

Try it. Nothing better for getting ingrained oil off yer hands



Then, all you have to do is to get rid of the smell of the diesel!
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Roger
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On 13/04/2018 09:43, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-13, Graeme wrote:
In message ,
harry writes

The later bypass hoses were corrugated.
The trick was to put them is hot water for a while before fitting.
This softened them and made the job a lot easier.

Thanks Harry. Will order a spare 'just in case'.

IIRC (It's been a *long* time since I owned a Mini), there's trick with the
corrugated ones to fitting them, involving putting them in a 'G' cramp and
freezing them ...


I'd personally not use those, had one fail just after fitting, Romoving
the water pump is a pain, but so is losing all the coolant :-/

On 13/04/2018 09:41, Huge wrote:
[snip]
(* And why should I pay £95/hr for someone to remove and replace all
those plastic covers over the engine? What are they even for?)

Noise reduction. Surprisingly effective on diesels IME.

On 13/04/2018 10:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Graeme wrote:
Thanks Roger. You are right, of course, although when ordering parts
yesterday, I quietly ignored that hose, knowing what a pig it is to
change without more major dismantling. At the moment, it does not
appear to be leaking, although I think I will get a spare anyway,
knowing the condition of the bottom hose. One of the concertina ones
would be useful.

I found on my many Minis that the concertina type being so much thinner
had a much shorter life than the original.

If i had one now I'd go for a silicone type. Would need dismantling to
fit, but should last for ever.

As I posted above, I had the concertina type fail on me after a water
pump replacement on a Mini, so had to take it all apart again to fit a
proper one.

On 13/04/18 14:04, Marland wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/04/18 10:18, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-13, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:43:06 +0000, Huge wrote:

On 2018-04-13, Graeme wrote:
In message ,
harry writes

The later bypass hoses were corrugated.
The trick was to put them is hot water for a while before fitting.
This softened them and made the job a lot easier.

Thanks Harry. Will order a spare 'just in case'.

IIRC (It's been a *long* time since I owned a Mini), there's trick with
the corrugated ones to fitting them, involving putting them in a 'G'
cramp and freezing them ...

ISTR using Swarfega to lubricate them...

I beg your pardon? D


A delicate mixture of parafin or disel, washing up liquid and sand.

Try it. Nothing better for getting ingrained oil off yer hands



Ive used a similar mixture but using granulated sugar instead of the sand,
Has the advantage that it washes away cleanly down the plug hole and
dissolves in hot water.
I would have thought sand would soon scratch any sink/basin when you came
to clean it and the risk that a lot of it may clog up the plumbing.

GH

To be honest. most washing up liquids contain microbeads that act as a
very fine scouring agent..

--
"When one man dies it's a tragedy. When thousands die it's statistics."

Josef Stalin

On 13/04/18 14:10, Roger Mills wrote:
On 13/04/2018 11:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/04/18 10:18, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-13, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:43:06 +0000, Huge wrote:

On 2018-04-13, Graeme wrote:
In message ,
harry writes

The later bypass hoses were corrugated.
The trick was to put them is hot water for a while before fitting.
This softened them and made the job a lot easier.

Thanks Harry. Will order a spare 'just in case'.

IIRC (It's been a *long* time since I owned a Mini), there's trick
with
the corrugated ones to fitting them, involving putting them in a 'G'
cramp and freezing them ...

ISTR using Swarfega to lubricate them...

I beg your pardon? D


A delicate mixture of parafin or disel, washing up liquid and sand.

Try it. Nothing better for getting ingrained oil off yer hands



Then, all you have to do is to get rid of the smell of the diesel!

Thats what swarfega smelt of anyway.

Just fondle yer balls and replace it with the smell of Thrush...

--
"When one man dies it's a tragedy. When thousands die it's statistics."

Josef Stalin

In message , Marland
writes

Ive used a similar mixture but using granulated sugar instead of the sand,
Has the advantage that it washes away cleanly down the plug hole and
dissolves in hot water.

'Back in the day' we used to use a mixture of washing up liquid and
whatever washing powder was in the cupboard. Tide, OMO etc. Good for
cleaning, but probably not terribly good for the skin.
--
Graeme

In article ,
Chris Bartram wrote:
On 13/04/2018 10:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Graeme wrote:
Thanks Roger. You are right, of course, although when ordering parts
yesterday, I quietly ignored that hose, knowing what a pig it is to
change without more major dismantling. At the moment, it does not
appear to be leaking, although I think I will get a spare anyway,
knowing the condition of the bottom hose. One of the concertina ones
would be useful.

I found on my many Minis that the concertina type being so much thinner
had a much shorter life than the original.

If i had one now I'd go for a silicone type. Would need dismantling to
fit, but should last for ever.

As I posted above, I had the concertina type fail on me after a water
pump replacement on a Mini, so had to take it all apart again to fit a
proper one.

Likewise. Even at best had a much shorter life than the plain ones. Makes
sense if you think about it.

Think if a new standard one was fitted each time the pump was replaced (or
head lifted) they'd not normally fail in service. But people do try and
penny pinch. ;-)

--
*Be more or less specific *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Then, all you have to do is to get rid of the smell of the diesel!

Thats what swarfega smelt of anyway.

You either use odd diesel odd Swarfega...

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

The Natural Philosopher Wrote in message:
On 13/04/18 14:04, Marland wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/04/18 10:18, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-13, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:43:06 +0000, Huge wrote:

On 2018-04-13, Graeme wrote:
In message ,
harry writes

The later bypass hoses were corrugated.
The trick was to put them is hot water for a while before fitting.
This softened them and made the job a lot easier.

Thanks Harry. Will order a spare 'just in case'.

IIRC (It's been a *long* time since I owned a Mini), there's trick with
the corrugated ones to fitting them, involving putting them in a 'G'
cramp and freezing them ...

ISTR using Swarfega to lubricate them...

I beg your pardon? D


A delicate mixture of parafin or disel, washing up liquid and sand.

Try it. Nothing better for getting ingrained oil off yer hands



I?ve used a similar mixture but using granulated sugar instead of the sand,
Has the advantage that it washes away cleanly down the plug hole and
dissolves in hot water.
I would have thought sand would soon scratch any sink/basin when you came
to clean it and the risk that a lot of it may clog up the plumbing.

GH

To be honest. most washing up liquids contain microbeads that act as a
very fine scouring agent..

Is this something else that you've made up?

Given the bad publicity given to microbeads in exfoliating scrubs,
i think it highly unlikely that there are any in "most washing up
liquids".

Happy to be proved wrong if you can provide any evidence.

Tim


--

On 13/04/18 14:39, Tim+ wrote:
The Natural Philosopher Wrote in message:
On 13/04/18 14:04, Marland wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/04/18 10:18, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-13, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:43:06 +0000, Huge wrote:

On 2018-04-13, Graeme wrote:
In message ,
harry writes

The later bypass hoses were corrugated.
The trick was to put them is hot water for a while before fitting.
This softened them and made the job a lot easier.

Thanks Harry. Will order a spare 'just in case'.

IIRC (It's been a *long* time since I owned a Mini), there's trick with
the corrugated ones to fitting them, involving putting them in a 'G'
cramp and freezing them ...

ISTR using Swarfega to lubricate them...

I beg your pardon? D


A delicate mixture of parafin or disel, washing up liquid and sand.

Try it. Nothing better for getting ingrained oil off yer hands



I?ve used a similar mixture but using granulated sugar instead of the sand,
Has the advantage that it washes away cleanly down the plug hole and
dissolves in hot water.
I would have thought sand would soon scratch any sink/basin when you came
to clean it and the risk that a lot of it may clog up the plumbing.

GH

To be honest. most washing up liquids contain microbeads that act as a
very fine scouring agent..

Is this something else that you've made up?

Given the bad publicity given to microbeads in exfoliating scrubs,
i think it highly unlikely that there are any in "most washing up
liquids".

Happy to be proved wrong if you can provide any evidence.

That's waht my chemistry master, PhD, ex Proctor and Gamble told us in
the 60s..beacause edtergent isn't 'thick' its like Teepol. Water like


Maybe they dont any more, buit its still a witches brew..dyes,
thickeners, perfumes...






Tim




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Those who want slavery should have the grace to name it by its proper
name. They must face the full meaning of that which they are advocating
or condoning; the full, exact, specific meaning of collectivism, of its
logical implications, of the principles upon which it is based, and of
the ultimate consequences to which these principles will lead. They must
face it, then decide whether this is what they want or not.

Ayn Rand.

On Friday, 13 April 2018 14:14:36 UTC+1, Chris Bartram wrote:
On 13/04/2018 09:41, Huge wrote:
[snip]
(* And why should I pay £95/hr for someone to remove and replace all
those plastic covers over the engine? What are they even for?)

Noise reduction. Surprisingly effective on diesels IME.

Last new car I drove was so noise controlled that I couldn't hear the engine properly. No clue what rpm it was doing. But that's new cars all over, a load of extra crap that costs money that I've zero interest in buying.


NT

On 13/04/2018 14:12, Chris Bartram wrote:
On 13/04/2018 09:43, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-13, Graeme wrote:
In message ,
harry writes

The later bypass hoses were corrugated.
The trick was to put them is hot water for a while before fitting.
This softened them and made the job a lot easier.

Thanks Harry.Â* Will order a spare 'just in case'.

IIRC (It's been a *long* time since I owned a Mini), there's trick
with the
corrugated ones to fitting them, involving putting them in a 'G' cramp
and
freezing them ...


I'd personally not use those, had one fail just after fitting, Romoving
the water pump is a pain, but so is losing all the coolant :-/

ISTR, on a Mini at least, the head needs to come off if you're not using
a compressible hose? I remember looking at the concertina type and
thinking 'nope'.

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In article ,
RJH wrote:
ISTR, on a Mini at least, the head needs to come off if you're not using
a compressible hose? I remember looking at the concertina type and
thinking 'nope'.

You can remove the water pump to change it. Up to you whether that is more
fiddly on a Mini.

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On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 00:01:28 +0100
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
RJH wrote:
ISTR, on a Mini at least, the head needs to come off if you're not
using a compressible hose? I remember looking at the concertina
type and thinking 'nope'.

You can remove the water pump to change it. Up to you whether that is
more fiddly on a Mini.

You can drop the whole front subframe (or rather leave it in place, and
lift the body off) for better access to the fiddly bits of a Mini. But
there's loads of space to get at everything on a Moggy Minor.

On 13 Apr 2018 10:48:44 GMT
Huge wrote:

On 2018-04-13, Graeme wrote:

Why did I ever start this ... :-)

A question I frequently ask myself when DIY is involved.


A question I've occasionally asked myself while lying under a car on
Sunday evening, when I'll need it to drive to work on Monday morning.

In message 20180414145503.793d5e5b@Mars, Rob Morley
writes
On 13 Apr 2018 10:48:44 GMT
Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-13, Graeme wrote:

Why did I ever start this ... :-)
A question I frequently ask myself when DIY is involved.

A question I've occasionally asked myself while lying under a car on
Sunday evening, when I'll need it to drive to work on Monday morning.

I think we've all been there, in days of yore :-)

Luckily, this Traveller is fun only, so no deadlines. The parts having
arrived, and the sun shining this morning I changed the heater control
and fitted the new bottom hose, and went for a run. So far, so good ...

One day, I'll look at the fuel gauge, which reads permanently empty.

--
Graeme

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 15:45:45 +0100
Graeme wrote:

One day, I'll look at the fuel gauge, which reads permanently empty.

Does it have a "reserve" setting on the tank? My Triumph Vitesse
(Herald) did, together with a manual priming lever on the fuel pump.

On 14/04/18 16:04, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 15:45:45 +0100
Graeme wrote:

One day, I'll look at the fuel gauge, which reads permanently empty.

Does it have a "reserve" setting on the tank? My Triumph Vitesse
(Herald) did, together with a manual priming lever on the fuel pump.

That was very much a triumph thing. Never on a moggy tho
..
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In article 20180414145503.793d5e5b@Mars,
Rob Morley wrote:
On 13 Apr 2018 10:48:44 GMT
Huge wrote:

On 2018-04-13, Graeme wrote:

Why did I ever start this ... :-)

A question I frequently ask myself when DIY is involved.


A question I've occasionally asked myself while lying under a car on
Sunday evening, when I'll need it to drive to work on Monday morning.

My brother fitted a new clutch to his Austin A105 while on holiday. After
towing a very old and heavy caravan. May have been before the days of
rescue and recovery.

Worst I've had was a windscreen breaking on the autobahn. Toughened type,
so not just a crack. On an Austin 1800. No spare available in Frankfurt or
the surrounds, so drove all the way home with a temporary one. Which let
in a lot of air. ;-)

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In article 20180414160459.7f88fe98@Mars,
Rob Morley wrote:
On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 15:45:45 +0100
Graeme wrote:

One day, I'll look at the fuel gauge, which reads permanently empty.

Does it have a "reserve" setting on the tank? My Triumph Vitesse
(Herald) did, together with a manual priming lever on the fuel pump.

No reserve and an electric SU pump on a moggy.

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On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:53:02 +0000, Huge wrote:

On 2018-04-14, Rob Morley wrote:
On 13 Apr 2018 10:48:44 GMT Huge wrote:

On 2018-04-13, Graeme wrote:

Why did I ever start this ... :-)

A question I frequently ask myself when DIY is involved.


A question I've occasionally asked myself while lying under a car on
Sunday evening, when I'll need it to drive to work on Monday morning.

BTDT, too. Replacing the thermostat on a 3 litre Capri, in the road, in
the dark and ****ing rain, when I'll need it to drive to work on Monday
morning.

I got really good at Mini fan belts. Must have done dozens. Mini vans
were a sod, though.

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On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 16:04:59 +0100, Rob Morley wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 15:45:45 +0100 Graeme
wrote:

One day, I'll look at the fuel gauge, which reads permanently empty.

Does it have a "reserve" setting on the tank? My Triumph Vitesse
(Herald) did, together with a manual priming lever on the fuel pump.

Don't think Travellers ever had them. Different shape tank to a Vitesse,
too. I only remember seeing them on Heralds and Vitesses.

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