Just spotted this:

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WAGOBOXXL.html

Probably a bit more usable in a number of situations...

Must admit I had not spotted the Wago "buttons" before - I was looking
at one of the boxes the other week thinking "what are they expecting
these slots to engage with?"

(before I shrugged and screwed through its base into a joist!)


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John Rumm wrote:

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WAGOBOXXL.html
Probably a bit more usable in a number of situations...

But beware it doesn't take the older 222 series, it's for the newer
slimmer 221 series

On Thursday, 29 March 2018 15:32:30 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
Just spotted this:

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WAGOBOXXL.html

By "manly" I was expecting something in cast iron :-)

Owain

On 29/03/2018 15:32, John Rumm wrote:
Just spotted this:

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WAGOBOXXL.html

Probably a bit more usable in a number of situations...

Must admit I had not spotted the Wago "buttons" before - I was looking
at one of the boxes the other week thinking "what are they expecting
these slots to engage with?"

(before I shrugged and screwed through its base into a joist!)



I had a sense of deja vu all over again when I saw the email from TLC
about them. I eventually recalled/found where I saw them first.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=...U/3nl5EmikCQAJ


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On 29/03/18 15:32, John Rumm wrote:
Just spotted this:

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WAGOBOXXL.html

Probably a bit more usable in a number of situations...

Must admit I had not spotted the Wago "buttons" before - I was looking
at one of the boxes the other week thinking "what are they expecting
these slots to engage with?"

(before I shrugged and screwed through its base into a joist!)



That's actually a useful box!

On 29/03/2018 15:32, John Rumm wrote:
Just spotted this:

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WAGOBOXXL.html

Probably a bit more usable in a number of situations...

Must admit I had not spotted the Wago "buttons" before - I was looking
at one of the boxes the other week thinking "what are they expecting
these slots to engage with?"

(before I shrugged and screwed through its base into a joist!)


Interesting to see that they have a new design of lever connector. I
have to say that I use far more lever connectors than push fit ones (but
I am not doing much with t+e).

newshound wrote:

Interesting to see that they have a new design of lever connector. I
have to say that I use far more lever connectors than push fit ones (but
I am not doing much with t+e).

I have tended to use the push-fit type for commoning earths in boxes
with multiple two- or three-way lever connectors, meaning I have more
earth wires than could fit into a five-way lever ...

On 30/03/2018 16:05, Andy Burns wrote:
newshound wrote:

Interesting to see that they have a new design of lever connector. I
have to say that I use far more lever connectors than push fit ones (but
I am not doing much with t+e).

I have tended to use the push-fit type for commoning earths in boxes
with multiple two- or three-way lever connectors, meaning I have more
earth wires than could fit into a five-way lever ...


Somehow I still don't trust these over traditional JBs, crimping or
soldering. Are there any concerns about long term reliability -
especially oxidation leading to a bit of resistance leading to a bit of
heat leading to ... ?

On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 5:26:31 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On 30/03/2018 16:05, Andy Burns wrote:
newshound wrote:

Interesting to see that they have a new design of lever connector. I
have to say that I use far more lever connectors than push fit ones (but
I am not doing much with t+e).

I have tended to use the push-fit type for commoning earths in boxes
with multiple two- or three-way lever connectors, meaning I have more
earth wires than could fit into a five-way lever ...


Somehow I still don't trust these over traditional JBs, crimping or
soldering. Are there any concerns about long term reliability -
especially oxidation leading to a bit of resistance leading to a bit of
heat leading to ... ?

Know someone who used to do HVAC install, he much preferred cage clamps in lever and DIN format to screw terminals, reckoned he saw a lot less toasted connections , screw terminals prone to loosening with vibration in the conditions.

On 30/03/2018 17:26, wrote:
On 30/03/2018 16:05, Andy Burns wrote:
newshound wrote:

Interesting to see that they have a new design of lever connector. I
have to say that I use far more lever connectors than push fit ones (but
I am not doing much with t+e).

I have tended to use the push-fit type for commoning earths in boxes
with multiple two- or three-way lever connectors, meaning I have more
earth wires than could fit into a five-way lever ...


Somehow I still don't trust these over traditional JBs, crimping or
soldering. Are there any concerns about long term reliability -
especially oxidation leading to a bit of resistance leading to a bit of
heat leading to ... ?

The push in wagos seem to bite into the copper quite well, they also
shroud the whole connection which ought to make for less oxidisation.

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John Rumm wrote:

The push in wagos seem to bite into the copper quite well, they also
shroud the whole connection which ought to make for less oxidisation.

They are gas-tight, claim similar* contact pressure to screw terminals,
as they've been around since 1977 someone should have noticed any
problems by now.

https://www.wago.com/infomaterial/pdf/51184677.pdf

[*] which presumable does mean slightly less, otherise they'd claim
better rather than similar.

Huge wrote:

John Rumm wrote:

The push in wagos seem to bite into the copper quite well,

They're certainly very hard (impossible?) to get off again!

Just twist back and forth while pulling.

On 31/03/2018 14:40, Huge wrote:
On 2018-03-31, John Rumm wrote:
On 30/03/2018 17:26, wrote:
On 30/03/2018 16:05, Andy Burns wrote:
newshound wrote:

Interesting to see that they have a new design of lever connector. I
have to say that I use far more lever connectors than push fit ones (but
I am not doing much with t+e).

I have tended to use the push-fit type for commoning earths in boxes
with multiple two- or three-way lever connectors, meaning I have more
earth wires than could fit into a five-way lever ...


Somehow I still don't trust these over traditional JBs, crimping or
soldering. Are there any concerns about long term reliability -
especially oxidation leading to a bit of resistance leading to a bit of
heat leading to ... ?

The push in wagos seem to bite into the copper quite well,

They're certainly very hard (impossible?) to get off again!

A twisting action does it...


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John.

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