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John Rumm March 29th 18 03:32 PM

Slightly more manly Wago box
 
Just spotted this:

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WAGOBOXXL.html

Probably a bit more usable in a number of situations...

Must admit I had not spotted the Wago "buttons" before - I was looking
at one of the boxes the other week thinking "what are they expecting
these slots to engage with?"

(before I shrugged and screwed through its base into a joist!)


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Andy Burns[_13_] March 29th 18 03:41 PM

Slightly more manly Wago box
 
John Rumm wrote:

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WAGOBOXXL.html
Probably a bit more usable in a number of situations...


But beware it doesn't take the older 222 series, it's for the newer
slimmer 221 series

[email protected] March 29th 18 04:59 PM

Slightly more manly Wago box
 
On Thursday, 29 March 2018 15:32:30 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
Just spotted this:

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WAGOBOXXL.html


By "manly" I was expecting something in cast iron :-)

Owain


Robin March 29th 18 09:31 PM

Slightly more manly Wago box
 
On 29/03/2018 15:32, John Rumm wrote:
Just spotted this:

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WAGOBOXXL.html

Probably a bit more usable in a number of situations...

Must admit I had not spotted the Wago "buttons" before - I was looking
at one of the boxes the other week thinking "what are they expecting
these slots to engage with?"

(before I shrugged and screwed through its base into a joist!)



I had a sense of deja vu all over again when I saw the email from TLC
about them. I eventually recalled/found where I saw them first.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=...U/3nl5EmikCQAJ


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Tim Watts[_3_] March 29th 18 11:12 PM

Slightly more manly Wago box
 
On 29/03/18 15:32, John Rumm wrote:
Just spotted this:

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WAGOBOXXL.html

Probably a bit more usable in a number of situations...

Must admit I had not spotted the Wago "buttons" before - I was looking
at one of the boxes the other week thinking "what are they expecting
these slots to engage with?"

(before I shrugged and screwed through its base into a joist!)



That's actually a useful box!

newshound March 30th 18 03:46 PM

Slightly more manly Wago box
 
On 29/03/2018 15:32, John Rumm wrote:
Just spotted this:

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WAGOBOXXL.html

Probably a bit more usable in a number of situations...

Must admit I had not spotted the Wago "buttons" before - I was looking
at one of the boxes the other week thinking "what are they expecting
these slots to engage with?"

(before I shrugged and screwed through its base into a joist!)


Interesting to see that they have a new design of lever connector. I
have to say that I use far more lever connectors than push fit ones (but
I am not doing much with t+e).

Andy Burns[_13_] March 30th 18 04:05 PM

Slightly more manly Wago box
 
newshound wrote:

Interesting to see that they have a new design of lever connector. I
have to say that I use far more lever connectors than push fit ones (but
I am not doing much with t+e).


I have tended to use the push-fit type for commoning earths in boxes
with multiple two- or three-way lever connectors, meaning I have more
earth wires than could fit into a five-way lever ...


[email protected] March 30th 18 05:26 PM

Slightly more manly Wago box
 
On 30/03/2018 16:05, Andy Burns wrote:
newshound wrote:

Interesting to see that they have a new design of lever connector. I
have to say that I use far more lever connectors than push fit ones (but
I am not doing much with t+e).


I have tended to use the push-fit type for commoning earths in boxes
with multiple two- or three-way lever connectors, meaning I have more
earth wires than could fit into a five-way lever ...


Somehow I still don't trust these over traditional JBs, crimping or
soldering. Are there any concerns about long term reliability -
especially oxidation leading to a bit of resistance leading to a bit of
heat leading to ... ?

Adam Aglionby March 31st 18 01:43 PM

Slightly more manly Wago box
 
On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 5:26:31 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On 30/03/2018 16:05, Andy Burns wrote:
newshound wrote:

Interesting to see that they have a new design of lever connector. I
have to say that I use far more lever connectors than push fit ones (but
I am not doing much with t+e).


I have tended to use the push-fit type for commoning earths in boxes
with multiple two- or three-way lever connectors, meaning I have more
earth wires than could fit into a five-way lever ...


Somehow I still don't trust these over traditional JBs, crimping or
soldering. Are there any concerns about long term reliability -
especially oxidation leading to a bit of resistance leading to a bit of
heat leading to ... ?


Know someone who used to do HVAC install, he much preferred cage clamps in lever and DIN format to screw terminals, reckoned he saw a lot less toasted connections , screw terminals prone to loosening with vibration in the conditions.

John Rumm March 31st 18 02:38 PM

Slightly more manly Wago box
 
On 30/03/2018 17:26, wrote:
On 30/03/2018 16:05, Andy Burns wrote:
newshound wrote:

Interesting to see that they have a new design of lever connector. I
have to say that I use far more lever connectors than push fit ones (but
I am not doing much with t+e).


I have tended to use the push-fit type for commoning earths in boxes
with multiple two- or three-way lever connectors, meaning I have more
earth wires than could fit into a five-way lever ...


Somehow I still don't trust these over traditional JBs, crimping or
soldering. Are there any concerns about long term reliability -
especially oxidation leading to a bit of resistance leading to a bit of
heat leading to ... ?


The push in wagos seem to bite into the copper quite well, they also
shroud the whole connection which ought to make for less oxidisation.

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Cheers,

John.

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Andy Burns[_13_] March 31st 18 02:46 PM

Slightly more manly Wago box
 
John Rumm wrote:

The push in wagos seem to bite into the copper quite well, they also
shroud the whole connection which ought to make for less oxidisation.


They are gas-tight, claim similar* contact pressure to screw terminals,
as they've been around since 1977 someone should have noticed any
problems by now.

https://www.wago.com/infomaterial/pdf/51184677.pdf

[*] which presumable does mean slightly less, otherise they'd claim
better rather than similar.


Andy Burns[_13_] March 31st 18 02:47 PM

Slightly more manly Wago box
 
Huge wrote:

John Rumm wrote:

The push in wagos seem to bite into the copper quite well,


They're certainly very hard (impossible?) to get off again!


Just twist back and forth while pulling.


John Rumm April 2nd 18 12:25 AM

Slightly more manly Wago box
 
On 31/03/2018 14:40, Huge wrote:
On 2018-03-31, John Rumm wrote:
On 30/03/2018 17:26, wrote:
On 30/03/2018 16:05, Andy Burns wrote:
newshound wrote:

Interesting to see that they have a new design of lever connector. I
have to say that I use far more lever connectors than push fit ones (but
I am not doing much with t+e).

I have tended to use the push-fit type for commoning earths in boxes
with multiple two- or three-way lever connectors, meaning I have more
earth wires than could fit into a five-way lever ...


Somehow I still don't trust these over traditional JBs, crimping or
soldering. Are there any concerns about long term reliability -
especially oxidation leading to a bit of resistance leading to a bit of
heat leading to ... ?


The push in wagos seem to bite into the copper quite well,


They're certainly very hard (impossible?) to get off again!


A twisting action does it...


--
Cheers,

John.

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