I have had a small torch for a few years that took either a AA cell or a
Ultrafire YF 14500 (3.7v).(I think I ordered the torch, batteries and
charger together) Recently I mislaid it and ordered another off EBay.

It arrived today - marked HWA-WYS Ultrafire. and CREE. Looks identical to
original (Focussing lens)

Tested it with a conventional AA and it was fine - cautiously tried it with
the 3.7v which has been fine on the original - it caused the light to flash
on and off. Is this some pretection mode for being over-volt?

DerbyBorn wrote in
2.222:

I have had a small torch for a few years that took either a AA cell or
a Ultrafire YF 14500 (3.7v).(I think I ordered the torch, batteries
and charger together) Recently I mislaid it and ordered another off
EBay.

It arrived today - marked HWA-WYS Ultrafire. and CREE. Looks identical
to original (Focussing lens)

Tested it with a conventional AA and it was fine - cautiously tried it
with the 3.7v which has been fine on the original - it caused the
light to flash on and off. Is this some pretection mode for being
over-volt?


Damn - just found a review on Youtube and realise that it has a "Strobe
Function" The review confirms the battery is ok.

In article 6,
DerbyBorn wrote:
Damn - just found a review on Youtube and realise that it has a "Strobe
Function" The review confirms the battery is ok.

My Lidl one has that. Full, half power and strobe, by cycling the on/off
button. No idea what the strobe function is for. Super torch, though.

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On Saturday, 10 March 2018 14:35:27 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
No idea what the strobe function is for. Super torch, though.

I've always assumed it was for if you're stranded on a mountain and need to show a light to indicate your position to rescuers, the strobe is more eye-catching and uses less battery than continuous illumination.

But I could be wrong. Maybe it's used for some obscure version of Chinese silent musical chairs at parties, or for mesmerising rhinocerousousouseses.

Owain

wrote:
On Saturday, 10 March 2018 14:35:27 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
No idea what the strobe function is for. Super torch, though.

I've always assumed it was for if you're stranded on a mountain and need
to show a light to indicate your position to rescuers, the strobe is more
eye-catching and uses less battery than continuous illumination.

One of our Led torches has a fourth mode where the flashes get emitted as
the Morse S O S signal.

I have found that useful in the Local on a Sunday night when the staffing
drops to one millennial lass serving
between two bars to attract her attention through the interconnecting arch
around the corner from which
she is holding court with hopeful young Males.
In Summer I take my own counter Bell.

GH

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article 6,
DerbyBorn wrote:
Damn - just found a review on Youtube and realise that it has a "Strobe
Function" The review confirms the battery is ok.

My Lidl one has that. Full, half power and strobe, by cycling the on/off
button. No idea what the strobe function is for. Super torch, though.

Does anyone else find these two or three mode torches incredibly
annoying as they nearly always use a single button to sequence through
the modes. I want a torch that turns on with one click and turns off
with the next click.

Argh, mutter, mutter, Meldrew mode.... :-)

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 16:59:08 +0000
Chris Green wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article 6,
DerbyBorn wrote:
Damn - just found a review on Youtube and realise that it has a
"Strobe Function" The review confirms the battery is ok.

My Lidl one has that. Full, half power and strobe, by cycling the
on/off button. No idea what the strobe function is for. Super
torch, though.
Does anyone else find these two or three mode torches incredibly
annoying as they nearly always use a single button to sequence through
the modes. I want a torch that turns on with one click and turns off
with the next click.

Argh, mutter, mutter, Meldrew mode.... :-)


+1

I've got an Olight mini torch. Expensive, but it switches on in the
same mode you as switched it off in and not the next mode in the
sequence - which has really annoyed me with other torches I've owned.

In article ,
Chris Green wrote:
My Lidl one has that. Full, half power and strobe, by cycling the on/off
button. No idea what the strobe function is for. Super torch, though.

Does anyone else find these two or three mode torches incredibly
annoying as they nearly always use a single button to sequence through
the modes. I want a torch that turns on with one click and turns off
with the next click.

Argh, mutter, mutter, Meldrew mode.... :-)

Quite. Thought it was just me. Assumed youngsters love plenty 'functions'
they'll never use. Like most phones.

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 16:59:08 +0000, Chris Green wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article 6,
DerbyBorn wrote:
Damn - just found a review on Youtube and realise that it has a "Strobe
Function" The review confirms the battery is ok.

My Lidl one has that. Full, half power and strobe, by cycling the on/off
button. No idea what the strobe function is for. Super torch, though.

Does anyone else find these two or three mode torches incredibly
annoying as they nearly always use a single button to sequence through
the modes. I want a torch that turns on with one click and turns off
with the next click.

Argh, mutter, mutter, Meldrew mode.... :-)

Yes! I've v. good LED lamp that has 3 modes, so 4 presses - with just on-off
I have a use for it; with 4...!
Having said that, the v. bright Aldidl 2xAA torch has Full - 'Half' - Off
(and zoom) and that could be useful, perhaps, as it'll last about 6 hours on
the lower setting, with a good light.
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whilst religions hold sway

Huge wrote:

On 2018-03-10, Chris Green wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article 6,
DerbyBorn wrote:
Damn - just found a review on Youtube and realise that it has a "Strobe
Function" The review confirms the battery is ok.

My Lidl one has that. Full, half power and strobe, by cycling the on/off
button. No idea what the strobe function is for. Super torch, though.

Does anyone else find these two or three mode torches incredibly
annoying as they nearly always use a single button to sequence through
the modes. I want a torch that turns on with one click and turns off
with the next click.

Yes, me. WTF use is the "flashing" mode?

Judging by the adverts for these torches it is for those Americans who
are in a constant state of training to combat federal government special
forces planning to take away their constitutional rights. I think it is
intended to temporarily distract and confuse the enemy.

--

Roger Hayter

In article ,
Roger Hayter wrote:
Yes, me. WTF use is the "flashing" mode?

Judging by the adverts for these torches it is for those Americans who
are in a constant state of training to combat federal government special
forces planning to take away their constitutional rights. I think it is
intended to temporarily distract and confuse the enemy.

Perhaps they mount them on their rifles designed for protecting the person
only. Flashes in sync with the speed of firing.

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On 10/03/2018 17:04, Huge wrote:
On 2018-03-10, Chris Green wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article 6,
DerbyBorn wrote:
Damn - just found a review on Youtube and realise that it has a "Strobe
Function" The review confirms the battery is ok.

My Lidl one has that. Full, half power and strobe, by cycling the on/off
button. No idea what the strobe function is for. Super torch, though.

Does anyone else find these two or three mode torches incredibly
annoying as they nearly always use a single button to sequence through
the modes. I want a torch that turns on with one click and turns off
with the next click.

Yes, me. WTF use is the "flashing" mode?

Cyclists like to mount them on the front of the bike - mor "eye
catching" than a static light...

(and perhaps means you can crash in stop motion ;-)



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In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
Yes, me. WTF use is the "flashing" mode?

Cyclists like to mount them on the front of the bike - mor "eye
catching" than a static light...

Why would you mount a torch to a bike? You want a much wider beam 'to be
seen' than that from a torch.

Flashing lights on cycles are more down to improving battery life.

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Is this mode designed to make people have fits, or somethingmore useful?
Brian

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2.236...
DerbyBorn wrote in
2.222:

I have had a small torch for a few years that took either a AA cell or
a Ultrafire YF 14500 (3.7v).(I think I ordered the torch, batteries
and charger together) Recently I mislaid it and ordered another off
EBay.

It arrived today - marked HWA-WYS Ultrafire. and CREE. Looks identical
to original (Focussing lens)

Tested it with a conventional AA and it was fine - cautiously tried it
with the 3.7v which has been fine on the original - it caused the
light to flash on and off. Is this some pretection mode for being
over-volt?


Damn - just found a review on Youtube and realise that it has a "Strobe
Function" The review confirms the battery is ok.

On 10/03/2018 13:57, DerbyBorn wrote:
DerbyBorn wrote in
2.222:

I have had a small torch for a few years that took either a AA cell or
a Ultrafire YF 14500 (3.7v).(I think I ordered the torch, batteries
and charger together) Recently I mislaid it and ordered another off
EBay.

It arrived today - marked HWA-WYS Ultrafire. and CREE. Looks identical
to original (Focussing lens)

Tested it with a conventional AA and it was fine - cautiously tried it
with the 3.7v which has been fine on the original - it caused the
light to flash on and off. Is this some pretection mode for being
over-volt?


Damn - just found a review on Youtube and realise that it has a "Strobe
Function" The review confirms the battery is ok.


I have several that strobe sometimes; usually cleared by turning off and
on. But there is no *obvious" button press sequence to select one or the
other. I can see the case for strobe for cyclists or emergency lights,
but they make little sense on torches, to my mind. I *used* to think
this were a sign of low battery, but it doesn't seem to be on my newer ones.

On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 14:40:07 +0000
newshound wrote:

I have several that strobe sometimes; usually cleared by turning off
and on. But there is no *obvious" button press sequence to select one
or the other.

On most that I have encountered clicking the switch turns them on and
off, half-pressing the switch without clicking cycles through the
modes[1]. Power cycling usually restarts in the same made it was in
when switched off, except for my bike lights, which annoyingly always
have to cycle through all modes.


[1] Usually bright, dim and flash, sometimes more than one flash
setting e.g. even blink, uneven strobe, SOS Morse.

In article ,
pamela wrote:
Hopefully it is genuine because there are many counterfeit Ultrafire
torches with fake Cree LEDs and fakes 18650 cells.

How do you fake a 18650 cell? Lots make them.

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On 10/03/2018 16:24, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
pamela wrote:
Hopefully it is genuine because there are many counterfeit Ultrafire
torches with fake Cree LEDs and fakes 18650 cells.

How do you fake a 18650 cell? Lots make them.


Sellers on Ebay have them listed with capacities of 500mAh to 2400mAh. I
suspect that the former figure is nearer the true capacity.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
pamela wrote:
Hopefully it is genuine because there are many counterfeit Ultrafire
torches with fake Cree LEDs and fakes 18650 cells.

How do you fake a 18650 cell? Lots make them.

When it's not an 18650 inside:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/27603

Or when they lie about the capacity
Or when they skimped on the construction so it only lasts a few dozen cycles
(just enough to get beyond any returns policy)
Or when it's a production reject
Or when they re-wrap a battery and claim it's a branded version:
https://batterybro.com/blogs/18650-w...he-samsung-25r
https://batterybro.com/blogs/18650-w...-18650-battery

Lots of Chinese vendors make 18650s, but if you want them to last go for LG
Chem, Samsung, Sony or Panasonic. If you can work out which ones are
genuine, that is.

Theo

pamela wrote:
On 16:24 10 Mar 2018, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
pamela wrote:


Hopefully it is genuine because there are many counterfeit Ultrafire
torches with fake Cree LEDs and fakes 18650 cells.

How do you fake a 18650 cell? Lots make them.

Lots of manufacturers make cells called Ultrafire 18650 but few are
made by Ultrafire.

There are so many fakes that you can't be sure of getting genuine
branded 18650s even from a reputable retailer. YouTube has plenty of
warning videos.

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ltrafire+18650

Maybe pinch a tesla and use its batteries?

FMurtz wrote:
Maybe pinch a tesla and use its batteries?

That's actually quite sensible. Anyone want to do a group buy:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Panasonic...s/302659762579
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Panasonic...s/302659762202

Tesla cells are top-quality Panasonic NCR18650B 3200mAh.

Theo

On 10/03/2018 13:52, DerbyBorn wrote:
I have had a small torch for a few years that took either a AA cell or a
Ultrafire YF 14500 (3.7v).(I think I ordered the torch, batteries and
charger together) Recently I mislaid it and ordered another off EBay.

It arrived today - marked HWA-WYS Ultrafire. and CREE. Looks identical to
original (Focussing lens)

Tested it with a conventional AA and it was fine - cautiously tried it with
the 3.7v which has been fine on the original - it caused the light to flash
on and off. Is this some pretection mode for being over-volt?


A lot of these torches have more than one mode of operation and flashing
on/off is one of these modes. Repeatedly pressing the on off button
cycles through the modes of operation which may be "on fill brightness
- on half brightness - off = on flashing - off - etc. repeated cycle.

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