The man cave project goes ahead. The old sectional garage has been
demolished, and I found to my surprise that the SWA feeding it is blue,
red, and yellow. Is a new sparky going to balk at this and insist it is
replaced? (it would be a PITA - the cable goes into the house...)

Andy

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Vir Campestris wrote:
The man cave project goes ahead. The old sectional garage has been
demolished, and I found to my surprise that the SWA feeding it is blue,
red, and yellow. Is a new sparky going to balk at this and insist it is
replaced? (it would be a PITA - the cable goes into the house...)

Those were the standard colours for 3 core SWA - the old three phase ones.

It should have had sleeves on both ends using the 'normal' colours of the
time for LN&E.

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Vir Campestris Wrote in message:
The man cave project goes ahead. The old sectional garage has been
demolished, and I found to my surprise that the SWA feeding it is blue,
red, and yellow. Is a new sparky going to balk at this and insist it is
replaced? (it would be a PITA - the cable goes into the house...)

Andy


Can it be sleeved in "correct" colours if really necessary?
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On 05/03/18 23:04, Vir Campestris wrote:
The man cave project goes ahead. The old sectional garage has been
demolished, and I found to my surprise that the SWA feeding it is blue,
red, and yellow. Is a new sparky going to balk at this and insist it is
replaced? (it would be a PITA - the cable goes into the house...)

Andy

No. There is no requirement to "upgrade" the colours. All that matters
is that the cable is suitable for the load and in working condition.

On 06/03/18 01:06, Jim K wrote:
Vir Campestris Wrote in message:
The man cave project goes ahead. The old sectional garage has been
demolished, and I found to my surprise that the SWA feeding it is blue,
red, and yellow. Is a new sparky going to balk at this and insist it is
replaced? (it would be a PITA - the cable goes into the house...)

Andy


Can it be sleeved in "correct" colours if really necessary?


Yes - and you'd have to do that anyway as the "new" colours are black,
brown and grey. So 2 of those need sleeving at best.

Well, as long as you know what they are ans sleeve them appropriately at the
end. I'm sure inside my armoured cable the colours are non standard for
today as well.
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"Vir Campestris" wrote in message
news
The man cave project goes ahead. The old sectional garage has been
demolished, and I found to my surprise that the SWA feeding it is blue,
red, and yellow. Is a new sparky going to balk at this and insist it is
replaced? (it would be a PITA - the cable goes into the house...)

Andy

On 05/03/2018 23:34, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Vir Campestris wrote:
The man cave project goes ahead. The old sectional garage has been
demolished, and I found to my surprise that the SWA feeding it is blue,
red, and yellow. Is a new sparky going to balk at this and insist it is
replaced? (it would be a PITA - the cable goes into the house...)

Those were the standard colours for 3 core SWA - the old three phase ones.

It should have had sleeves on both ends using the 'normal' colours of the
time for LN&E.


+1.

And an extra +1 for saying that it should be sleeved in the colours that
were in use at the time the cable was installed (that would normally be
black sleeving over the blue and green/yellow over the yellow although
very few people did)

There is no requirement to swap the cable just because of the old colours.

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On 06/03/2018 08:15, Tim Watts wrote:
On 06/03/18 01:06, Jim K wrote:
Vir Campestris Wrote in message:
The man cave project goes ahead. The old sectional garage has been
demolished, and I found to my surprise that the SWA feeding it is blue,
red, and yellow. Is a new sparky going to balk at this and insist it is
replaced? (it would be a PITA - the cable goes into the house...)

Andy


Can it be sleeved in "correct" colours if really necessary?


Yes - and you'd have to do that anyway as the "new" colours are black,
brown and grey. So 2 of those need sleeving at best.

Order the colours in phase rotation please:-)

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On 07/03/18 18:55, ARW wrote:
On 06/03/2018 08:15, Tim Watts wrote:
On 06/03/18 01:06, Jim K wrote:
Vir Campestris Wrote in message:
The man cave project goes ahead. The old sectional garage has been
demolished, and I found to my surprise that the SWA feeding it is blue,
red, and yellow. Is a new sparky going to balk at this and insist it is
replaced? (it would be a PITA - the cable goes into the house...)

Andy


Can it be sleeved in "correct" colours if really necessary?


Yes - and you'd have to do that anyway as the "new" colours are black,
brown and grey. So 2 of those need sleeving at best.

Order the colours in phase rotation please:-)



Left or right?

On 07/03/2018 18:53, ARW wrote:
On 05/03/2018 23:34, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* Vir Campestris wrote:
The man cave project goes ahead. The old sectional garage has been
demolished, and I found to my surprise that the SWA feeding it is blue,
red, and yellow. Is a new sparky going to balk at this and insist it is
replaced? (it would be a PITA - the cable goes into the house...)

Those were the standard colours for 3 core SWA - the old three phase
ones.

It should have had sleeves on both ends using the 'normal' colours of the
time for LN&E.


+1.

And an extra +1 for saying that it should be sleeved in the colours that
were in use at the time the cable was installed (that would normally be
black sleeving over the blue and green/yellow over the yellow although
very few people did)

There is no requirement to swap the cable just because of the old colours.


Just a note that even if reused then it should be sleeved in the OLD
colours.

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On 07/03/2018 19:29, Tim Watts wrote:
On 07/03/18 18:55, ARW wrote:
On 06/03/2018 08:15, Tim Watts wrote:
On 06/03/18 01:06, Jim K wrote:
Vir Campestris Wrote in message:
The man cave project goes ahead. The old sectional garage has been
demolished, and I found to my surprise that the SWA feeding it is
blue,
red, and yellow. Is a new sparky going to balk at this and insist
it is
replaced? (it would be a PITA - the cable goes into the house...)

Andy


Can it be sleeved in "correct" colours if really necessary?


Yes - and you'd have to do that anyway as the "new" colours are
black, brown and grey. So 2 of those need sleeving at best.

Order the colours in phase rotation please:-)



Left or right?

Left this week, right next week:-).

If the 3 phase machine (imported from Ireland) does not work then swap
any two phases over and no one gives a **** what colour the phases are
as long as it works.


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On 05/03/2018 23:34, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Vir Campestris wrote:
The man cave project goes ahead. The old sectional garage has been
demolished, and I found to my surprise that the SWA feeding it is blue,
red, and yellow. Is a new sparky going to balk at this and insist it is
replaced? (it would be a PITA - the cable goes into the house...)

Those were the standard colours for 3 core SWA - the old three phase
ones.

It should have had sleeves on both ends using the 'normal' colours of the
time for LN&E.


+1.

And an extra +1 for saying that it should be sleeved in the colours that
were in use at the time the cable was installed (that would normally be
black sleeving over the blue and green/yellow over the yellow although very
few people did)

There is no requirement to swap the cable just because of the old colours.



If it's a PROPER man cave you need three phase anyway

When UK Power Networks ran the three phase into my workshop they ran out of
the correct colour cables to run into the current transformer meter cabinet
so we have (I think ) a blue cable entirely wrapped along its length in
brown tape making it L1 rather than Neutral ! In fairness they are whacking
great cables as it's a 160 amp per phase supply.

Andrew

On 08/03/2018 08:26, Andrew Mawson wrote:

If it's a PROPER man cave you need three phase anyway

When UK Power Networks ran the three phase into my workshop they ran out
of the correct colour cables to run into the current transformer meter
cabinet so we have (I think ) a blue cable entirely wrapped along its
length in brown tape making it L1 rather than Neutral ! In fairness they
are whacking great cables as it's a 160 amp per phase supply.

The breaker is rated at 63A. I assume the cable will take it too... the
only thing I can think of that will need more than maybe 5kW would be an
electric car point, and I don't have one of those.

It's not currently sleeved. I was happy to turn it off, seal the
breaker, and cut the ends (which are outside, still in the old metal
waterproof JB), but TPTB get stroppy over connections.

Andy

In article ,
Vir Campestris wrote:
It's not currently sleeved.

Get the impression it's only Adam and me that bother with such things. ;-)

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On 09/03/2018 22:58, Vir Campestris wrote:

The breaker is rated at 63A. I assume the cable will take it too... the
only thing I can think of that will need more than maybe 5kW would be an
electric car point, and I don't have one of those.


Do you mean 15KW?


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On 10/03/2018 06:51, ARW wrote:
On 09/03/2018 22:58, Vir Campestris wrote:

The breaker is rated at 63A. I assume the cable will take it too...
the only thing I can think of that will need more than maybe 5kW would
be an electric car point, and I don't have one of those.


Do you mean 15KW?


No, I mean 5kW.

3kW to keep me warm, and a 2kW saw, lathe or such. Lighting is trivial.
If I'm on the computer that's only a couple of hundred watts even if gaming.

WTF would you do with 15kW?

Andy

"Vir Campestris" wrote in message news

On 10/03/2018 06:51, ARW wrote:
On 09/03/2018 22:58, Vir Campestris wrote:

The breaker is rated at 63A. I assume the cable will take it too... the
only thing I can think of that will need more than maybe 5kW would be an
electric car point, and I don't have one of those.


Do you mean 15KW?


No, I mean 5kW.

3kW to keep me warm, and a 2kW saw, lathe or such. Lighting is trivial. If
I'm on the computer that's only a couple of hundred watts even if gaming.

WTF would you do with 15kW?

Andy

Have some proper machines in your man cave perhaps?

Andrew

On 11/03/2018 22:59, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 10/03/2018 06:51, ARW wrote:
On 09/03/2018 22:58, Vir Campestris wrote:

The breaker is rated at 63A. I assume the cable will take it too...
the only thing I can think of that will need more than maybe 5kW
would be an electric car point, and I don't have one of those.


Do you mean 15KW?


No, I mean 5kW.

3kW to keep me warm, and a 2kW saw, lathe or such. Lighting is trivial.
If I'm on the computer that's only a couple of hundred watts even if
gaming.

WTF would you do with 15kW?

Well you could charge a car, fit a hot tub, install an ensuite in the
shed with an electric shower:-)

I took that you had missed a 1 from your 5Kw as a 63A MCB is about right
for a 15Kw max load.


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Adam

On 12/03/2018 20:17, ARW wrote:
Well you could charge a car, fit a hot tub, install an ensuite in the
shed with an electric shower:-)

No plumbing. Too hard - downhill from the sewer, and I don't really need it.

I took that you had missed a 1 from your 5Kw as a 63A MCB is about right
for a 15Kw max load.

Oh, I see. 63A is what I have. It's more than adequate.

Andy

On 12/03/2018 23:00, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 12/03/2018 20:17, ARW wrote:
Well you could charge a car, fit a hot tub, install an ensuite in the
shed with an electric shower:-)

No plumbing. Too hard - downhill from the sewer, and I don't really need
it.

I took that you had missed a 1 from your 5Kw as a 63A MCB is about
right for a 15Kw max load.

Oh, I see. 63A is what I have. It's more than adequate.

Got it. Sun bed lounge.


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Adam

On 12/03/18 23:42, ARW wrote:
On 12/03/2018 23:00, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 12/03/2018 20:17, ARW wrote:
Well you could charge a car, fit a hot tub, install an ensuite in the
shed with an electric shower:-)

No plumbing. Too hard - downhill from the sewer, and I don't really
need it.

I took that you had missed a 1 from your 5Kw as a 63A MCB is about
right for a 15Kw max load.

Oh, I see. 63A is what I have. It's more than adequate.

Got it. Sun bed lounge.



On 63A? He'll be "done" after about 3 seconds