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It claims to be the voice of impartial news in this country.
Any particular reason why there is not a single mention in it (website, radio, TV, etc) of the story that was on the front page of pretty much every newspaper in the country over the weekend about Corbyn & Co's involvement (or more) with Eastern Bloc spies during the cold war? Just wondering... |
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JoeJoe wrote: It claims to be the voice of impartial news in this country. Any particular reason why there is not a single mention in it (website, radio, TV, etc) of the story that was on the front page of pretty much every newspaper in the country over the weekend about Corbyn & Co's involvement (or more) with Eastern Bloc spies during the cold war? Just wondering... It's in the website on "front pages from the press". I can only see it on 2 front pages - Telegraph & Mail. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England |
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On 19/02/2018 09:39, charles wrote:
In article , JoeJoe wrote: It claims to be the voice of impartial news in this country. Any particular reason why there is not a single mention in it (website, radio, TV, etc) of the story that was on the front page of pretty much every newspaper in the country over the weekend about Corbyn & Co's involvement (or more) with Eastern Bloc spies during the cold war? Just wondering... It's in the website on "front pages from the press". I can only see it on 2 front pages - Telegraph & Mail. We live in a democracy the last time I checked. The leader of the opposition is accused of very serious matters, backed by personal testimonies (possibly by a fantasist), and relevant documents, and the BBC don't think that it was relevant to comment on it at all? Some democracy they must believe in over there... You may choose to ignore the reporting in The Mail, but what about the Telegraph? It was also referred to in the Guardian, The Sun, the Mirror, etc - some on their front page, at least where I buy my Sunday paper from (but I know that there are regional variations). |
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![]() "JoeJoe" wrote in message o.uk... On 19/02/2018 09:39, charles wrote: In article , JoeJoe wrote: It claims to be the voice of impartial news in this country. Any particular reason why there is not a single mention in it (website, radio, TV, etc) of the story that was on the front page of pretty much every newspaper in the country over the weekend about Corbyn & Co's involvement (or more) with Eastern Bloc spies during the cold war? Just wondering... It's in the website on "front pages from the press". I can only see it on 2 front pages - Telegraph & Mail. We live in a democracy the last time I checked. The leader of the opposition is accused of very serious matters, backed by personal testimonies (possibly by a fantasist), and relevant documents, and the BBC don't think that it was relevant to comment on it at all? Some democracy they must believe in over there... It *was* discussed on The Papers But it doesn't make it to The News, because as an unconfirmed report it doesn't meet the threshold for being "News". The Beeb having previously been criticized for reporting unconfirmed stories that turned out to be wrong have corrected that mistake, and here you are now expecting the poor practice again.) and discussions of newspaper headlines isn't what the News slot is for tim |
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On 19/02/18 09:39, charles wrote:
In article , JoeJoe wrote: It claims to be the voice of impartial news in this country. Any particular reason why there is not a single mention in it (website, radio, TV, etc) of the story that was on the front page of pretty much every newspaper in the country over the weekend about Corbyn & Co's involvement (or more) with Eastern Bloc spies during the cold war? Just wondering... It's in the website on "front pages from the press". I can only see it on 2 front pages - Telegraph & Mail. Thats because its all moved on from Jezza. https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...en-livingstone What everyone knew is now 'news' - that the Left were and always have been financed by 'foreign interests'... -- New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in someone else's pocket. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote: What everyone knew is now 'news' - that the Left were and always have been financed by 'foreign interests'... You live and learn Trump is in fact left wing. -- *If you can't see my mirrors, I'm doing my hair* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 19/02/2018 10:25, tim... wrote:
"JoeJoe" wrote in message o.uk... On 19/02/2018 09:39, charles wrote: In article , Â*Â*Â* JoeJoe wrote: It claims to be the voice of impartial news in this country. Any particular reason why there is not a single mention in it (website, radio, TV, etc) of the story that was on the front page of pretty much every newspaper in the country over the weekend about Corbyn & Co's involvement (or more) with Eastern Bloc spies during the cold war? Just wondering... It's in the website on "front pages from the press". I can only see it on 2 front pages - Telegraph & Mail. We live in a democracy the last time I checked. The leader of the opposition is accused of very serious matters, backed by personal testimonies (possibly by a fantasist), and relevant documents, and the BBC don't think that it was relevant to comment on it at all? Some democracy they must believe in over there... It *was* discussed on The Papers But it doesn't make it to The News, because as an unconfirmed report it doesn't meet the threshold for being "News".Â* The Beeb having previously been criticized for reporting unconfirmed stories that turned out to be wrong have corrected that mistake, and here you are now expecting the poor practice again.) Strange then how they did report the allegations of sexual assault by certain female actresses/celebrities against certain Hollywood men. None offered any supporting evidence when they were reported to the BBC, and many were denied by those accused. I am not suggesting for one moment that they were not valid allegations and that they should not be followed, but there is absolutely no difference between the two when it comes to your argument. Care to try harder? |
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On 19/02/18 10:25, tim... wrote:
It *was* discussed on The Papers But it doesn't make it to The News, because as an unconfirmed report it doesn't meet the threshold for being "News".Â* The Beeb having previously been criticized for reporting unconfirmed stories that turned out to be wrong have corrected that mistake, and here you are now expecting the poor practice again.) BBC website has some 10 stories on various aspects of the Trump-Russia allegations. Is that different? Apart from Trump being right wing... |
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Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/02/18 10:25, tim... wrote: It *was* discussed on The Papers But it doesn't make it to The News, because as an unconfirmed report it doesn't meet the threshold for being "News". The Beeb having previously been criticized for reporting unconfirmed stories that turned out to be wrong have corrected that mistake, and here you are now expecting the poor practice again.) BBC website has some 10 stories on various aspects of the Trump-Russia allegations. Is that different? Apart from Trump being right wing... All American presidents are right wing war-mongers. It is part of the core job description. Slight differences in domestic policies have little impact on us. But the thing about Trump is that he is uproariously funny, and any news source would want to take advantage of that. -- Roger Hayter |
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![]() "JoeJoe" wrote in message o.uk... On 19/02/2018 10:25, tim... wrote: "JoeJoe" wrote in message o.uk... On 19/02/2018 09:39, charles wrote: In article , JoeJoe wrote: It claims to be the voice of impartial news in this country. Any particular reason why there is not a single mention in it (website, radio, TV, etc) of the story that was on the front page of pretty much every newspaper in the country over the weekend about Corbyn & Co's involvement (or more) with Eastern Bloc spies during the cold war? Just wondering... It's in the website on "front pages from the press". I can only see it on 2 front pages - Telegraph & Mail. We live in a democracy the last time I checked. The leader of the opposition is accused of very serious matters, backed by personal testimonies (possibly by a fantasist), and relevant documents, and the BBC don't think that it was relevant to comment on it at all? Some democracy they must believe in over there... It *was* discussed on The Papers But it doesn't make it to The News, because as an unconfirmed report it doesn't meet the threshold for being "News". The Beeb having previously been criticized for reporting unconfirmed stories that turned out to be wrong have corrected that mistake, and here you are now expecting the poor practice again.) Strange then how they did report the allegations of sexual assault by certain female actresses/celebrities against certain Hollywood men. None offered any supporting evidence when they were reported to the BBC, and many were denied by those accused. The BBC rules on credibility look at number of sources If it's only one you don't run it If it's dozens, you do tim |
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On 19/02/2018 14:16, tim... wrote:
"JoeJoe" wrote in message o.uk... On 19/02/2018 10:25, tim... wrote: "JoeJoe" wrote in message o.uk... On 19/02/2018 09:39, charles wrote: In article , Â*Â*Â* JoeJoe wrote: It claims to be the voice of impartial news in this country. Any particular reason why there is not a single mention in it (website, radio, TV, etc) of the story that was on the front page of pretty much every newspaper in the country over the weekend about Corbyn & Co's involvement (or more) with Eastern Bloc spies during the cold war? Just wondering... It's in the website on "front pages from the press". I can only see it on 2 front pages - Telegraph & Mail. We live in a democracy the last time I checked. The leader of the opposition is accused of very serious matters, backed by personal testimonies (possibly by a fantasist), and relevant documents, and the BBC don't think that it was relevant to comment on it at all? Some democracy they must believe in over there... It *was* discussed on The Papers But it doesn't make it to The News, because as an unconfirmed report it doesn't meet the threshold for being "News".Â* The Beeb having previously been criticized for reporting unconfirmed stories that turned out to be wrong have corrected that mistake, and here you are now expecting the poor practice again.) Strange then how they did report the allegations of sexual assault by certain female actresses/celebrities against certain Hollywood men. None offered any supporting evidence when they were reported to the BBC, and many were denied by those accused. The BBC rules on credibility look at number of sources If it's only one you don't run it If it's dozens, you do I would say that one ex-Czech agent testimony + records from Czech intelligence agency confirmation his account that Corbyn did invite him, as claimed, to meetings in the House of Commons is more than one source (even in Dianne Abbot's world). I am not suggesting that the story was true, just that it definitely has at least as much weight as many others reported on the BBC. |
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On 19/02/2018 09:32, JoeJoe wrote:
It claims to be the voice of impartial news in this country. Horse****. BBC is simply the broadcasting wing of the Guardian. |
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On 19/02/18 09:32, JoeJoe wrote:
It claims to be the voice of impartial news in this country. Any particular reason why there is not a single mention in it (website, radio, TV, etc) of the story that was on the front page of pretty much every newspaper in the country over the weekend about Corbyn & Co's involvement (or more) with Eastern Bloc spies during the cold war? Just wondering... The BBC aren't perfect but thankfully they don't do complete ******** like the Daily Mail does, and that story is ********. The Tories have only bad news about the NHS, bad news about education, bad news about housing and homelessness, bad news about social care, and bad bad news about brexit and the economy. No wonder they are desperate and have made up some cock and bull nonsense about Corbyn. Corbyn is a member of the Privy Council, which means he would have been subject to the very highest level of scrutiny by MI5 already. But somehow the Sun's hacks know better. Even the czechs have confirmed that it's ********. TW |
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Well since I heard about it on a bbc radio station I think your argument is
flawed. it was on World service certainly. However so was something about Boris and some things he said years back that might also be construed as controversial. You have to remember in all things, to listen widely. I always did at the time and I don' think it was a secret that some labour people courted the communists to see if common ground could be formed. I just do not like the guilty by implication type of story we get these days. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "JoeJoe" wrote in message ... It claims to be the voice of impartial news in this country. Any particular reason why there is not a single mention in it (website, radio, TV, etc) of the story that was on the front page of pretty much every newspaper in the country over the weekend about Corbyn & Co's involvement (or more) with Eastern Bloc spies during the cold war? Just wondering... |
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On 19/02/18 14:16, tim... wrote:
"JoeJoe" wrote in message o.uk... On 19/02/2018 10:25, tim... wrote: "JoeJoe" wrote in message o.uk... On 19/02/2018 09:39, charles wrote: In article , Â*Â*Â* JoeJoe wrote: It claims to be the voice of impartial news in this country. Any particular reason why there is not a single mention in it (website, radio, TV, etc) of the story that was on the front page of pretty much every newspaper in the country over the weekend about Corbyn & Co's involvement (or more) with Eastern Bloc spies during the cold war? Just wondering... It's in the website on "front pages from the press". I can only see it on 2 front pages - Telegraph & Mail. We live in a democracy the last time I checked. The leader of the opposition is accused of very serious matters, backed by personal testimonies (possibly by a fantasist), and relevant documents, and the BBC don't think that it was relevant to comment on it at all? Some democracy they must believe in over there... It *was* discussed on The Papers But it doesn't make it to The News, because as an unconfirmed report it doesn't meet the threshold for being "News".Â* The Beeb having previously been criticized for reporting unconfirmed stories that turned out to be wrong have corrected that mistake, and here you are now expecting the poor practice again.) Strange then how they did report the allegations of sexual assault by certain female actresses/celebrities against certain Hollywood men. None offered any supporting evidence when they were reported to the BBC, and many were denied by those accused. The BBC rules on credibility look at number of sources If it's only one you don't run it If it's dozens, you do tim So...alloit takes for 'credibility' is a left wing conspiracy all agreeing to lie. OK. That figgers. -- "If you dont read the news paper, you are un-informed. If you read the news paper, you are mis-informed." Mark Twain |
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On 19/02/18 16:39, TimW wrote:
On 19/02/18 09:32, JoeJoe wrote: It claims to be the voice of impartial news in this country. Any particular reason why there is not a single mention in it (website, radio, TV, etc) of the story that was on the front page of pretty much every newspaper in the country over the weekend about Corbyn & Co's involvement (or more) with Eastern Bloc spies during the cold war? Just wondering... The BBC aren't perfect but thankfully they don't do complete ******** like the Daily Mail does, and that story is ********. MP's are going to call Sarkocy to give evidence: "The Daily Telegraph can disclose that MPs intend to call Mr Sarkocy to give evidence in Parliament about his meetings with several Labour politicians, as part of an inquiry into the influence of foreign powers on British democracy." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/...sparent-links/ Corbyn is a member of the Privy Council, which means he would have been subject to the very highest level of scrutiny by MI5 already. But somehow the Sun's hacks know better. It would appear so: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7745966.html Even the czechs have confirmed that it's ********. Your source please? |
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