Had a tile come off my roof last weekend, think it must have come loose
during the high winds we had the other week, then last Saturday it
decided to slide down the roof and perch on the gutter (the sound of it
scraping down the roof being what alerted me to the problem).

Fortunately, I was able to grab it before it fell from its precarious
position and today managed to get up there and put it back in place.

However, what's troubling me is why did that one paricular tile come loose?

Having put it back, it seems no less sturdy than any of the other tiles
around it.

Should I be worried at the next high wind again?

Silly questions I know, but this is the first time this has happened to
me in the various homes I've lived in over the last 20 years or so.

Thanks in adavance.

Best Wishes
Simon T


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On 03/02/2018 21:38, Simon T wrote:
Had a tile come off my roof last weekend, think it must have come loose
during the high winds we had the other week, then last Saturday it
decided to slide down the roof and perch on the gutter (the sound of it
scraping down the roof being what alerted me to the problem).

Fortunately, I was able to grab it before it fell from its precarious
position and today managed to get up there and put it back in place.

However, what's troubling me is why did that one paricular tile come loose?

Having put it back, it seems no less sturdy than any of the other tiles
around it.

Should I be worried at the next high wind again?

Silly questions I know, but this is the first time this has happened to
me in the various homes I've lived in over the last 20 years or so.

Thanks in adavance.

Best Wishes
Simon T


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It would help to know what type of tile and the age of the roof (or
house, if it is relatively new).

It would help to know what type of tile and the age of the roof (or
house, if it is relatively new).

Here's a piccy I took last week of the hole

http://www.clipsfromthecryptserver1.com/temp/tile1.JPG

House is about 21 years old, I've lived here about 10.


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On 03/02/18 22:37, Simon T wrote:
It would help to know what type of tile and the age of the roof (or
house, if it is relatively new).

Here's a piccy I took last week of the hole

http://www.clipsfromthecryptserver1.com/temp/tile1.JPG

House is about 21 years old, I've lived here about 10.



Small overlap on those tiles (I have the same pattern but I'm sure my
tiles are taller and have a significant overlap).

You could add a nail to that tile if the course above is not nailed (use
aluminium nails and be gentle!)

On 03/02/2018 22:37, Simon T wrote:
It would help to know what type of tile and the age of the roof (or
house, if it is relatively new).

Here's a piccy I took last week of the hole

http://www.clipsfromthecryptserver1.com/temp/tile1.JPG

House is about 21 years old, I've lived here about 10.



You just slide the tiles above up, put a new tile on and slide them down
again.

There isn't normally any nails.

dennis@home wrote:

You just slide the tiles above up, put a new tile on and slide them down
again.

There isn't normally any nails.

Every third row is nailed here. the others slide up (with some
difficulty) I'd be pretty surprised if one of mine moved by itself.

On 03/02/2018 21:38, Simon T wrote:
Had a tile come off my roof last weekend, think it must have come loose
during the high winds we had the other week, then last Saturday it
decided to slide down the roof and perch on the gutter (the sound of it
scraping down the roof being what alerted me to the problem).

Fortunately, I was able to grab it before it fell from its precarious
position and today managed to get up there and put it back in place.

However, what's troubling me is why did that one paricular tile come loose?


Could be no more than being in just the right place for a 'gust' to do
the job.

Depending on the type/style it may only have been held by 'tabs' over a
battern and the weight of the next row. Others have nails. Some both,
our last house had both as I recall. I've seen clips used on slate
style tiles in France but not seen them here but I've not actively looked.

Having put it back, it seems no less sturdy than any of the other tiles
around it.

Should I be worried at the next high wind again?

Silly questions I know, but this is the first time this has happened to
me in the various homes I've lived in over the last 20 years or so.

I think we've lost 3 in about 40 years- all in the same night (1987).
One survived falling 3 floors (town house) and landed edge on in the
lawn- missing me by feet. Two shattered. They didn't come from the same
part of the roof.

You really need to check the mounting. If the battern is sound etc.,
refit (which can be fiddly), and don't worry. You generally have to
push a few tiles up, fit the missing one, nail if needed, pull the
displaced tiles back. Wear gloves.


Will it happen again? Perhaps but, unless there is a problem, its
neighbour is just as likely to come off next time.



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Brian Reay wrote:
On 03/02/2018 21:38, Simon T wrote:
Had a tile come off my roof last weekend, think it must have come
loose during the high winds we had the other week, then last Saturday
it decided to slide down the roof and perch on the gutter (the sound
of it scraping down the roof being what alerted me to the problem).

Fortunately, I was able to grab it before it fell from its precarious
position and today managed to get up there and put it back in place.

However, what's troubling me is why did that one paricular tile come
loose?


Could be no more than being in just the right place for a 'gust' to do
the job.

Depending on the type/style it may only have been held by 'tabs' over a
battern and the weight of the next row. Others have nails. Some both,
our last house had both as I recall.Â* I've seen clips used on slate
style tiles in France but not seen them here but I've not actively looked.

Having put it back, it seems no less sturdy than any of the other
tiles around it.

Should I be worried at the next high wind again?

Silly questions I know, but this is the first time this has happened
to me in the various homes I've lived in over the last 20 years or so.

I think we've lost 3 in about 40 years- all in the same night (1987).
One survived falling 3 floors (town house) and landed edge on in the
lawn- missing me byÂ* feet. Two shattered. They didn't come from the same
part of the roof.

You really need to check the mounting. If the battern is sound etc.,
refit (which can be fiddly), and don't worry.Â* You generally have to
push a few tiles up, fit the missing one, nail if needed, pull the
displaced tiles back. Wear gloves.


Will it happen again? Perhaps but, unless there is a problem, its
neighbour is just as likely to come off next time.




In Australia we might blame possums.

On Saturday, 3 February 2018 21:38:36 UTC, Simon T wrote:
Had a tile come off my roof last weekend, think it must have come loose
during the high winds we had the other week, then last Saturday it
decided to slide down the roof and perch on the gutter (the sound of it
scraping down the roof being what alerted me to the problem).

Fortunately, I was able to grab it before it fell from its precarious
position and today managed to get up there and put it back in place.

However, what's troubling me is why did that one paricular tile come loose?

Having put it back, it seems no less sturdy than any of the other tiles
around it.

Should I be worried at the next high wind again?

Silly questions I know, but this is the first time this has happened to
me in the various homes I've lived in over the last 20 years or so.

Thanks in adavance.

Best Wishes
Simon T


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You don't say if the tile is damaged or not.
If not, the tile above it can be pushed up and it can be put back.
If damaged you'll need a new one.
Common sort of tile easily obtained.
In windy situations, alternate rows of tiles are nailed.
In sheltered situations, maybe every fourth row.

On 04/02/2018 09:20, FMurtz wrote:
Brian Reay wrote:
On 03/02/2018 21:38, Simon T wrote:
Had a tile come off my roof last weekend, think it must have come
loose during the high winds we had the other week, then last Saturday
it decided to slide down the roof and perch on the gutter (the sound
of it scraping down the roof being what alerted me to the problem).

Fortunately, I was able to grab it before it fell from its precarious
position and today managed to get up there and put it back in place.

However, what's troubling me is why did that one paricular tile come
loose?


Could be no more than being in just the right place for a 'gust' to do
the job.

Depending on the type/style it may only have been held by 'tabs' over
a battern and the weight of the next row. Others have nails. Some
both, our last house had both as I recall.Â* I've seen clips used on
slate style tiles in France but not seen them here but I've not
actively looked.

Having put it back, it seems no less sturdy than any of the other
tiles around it.

Should I be worried at the next high wind again?

Silly questions I know, but this is the first time this has happened
to me in the various homes I've lived in over the last 20 years or so.

I think we've lost 3 in about 40 years- all in the same night (1987).
One survived falling 3 floors (town house) and landed edge on in the
lawn- missing me byÂ* feet. Two shattered. They didn't come from the
same part of the roof.

You really need to check the mounting. If the battern is sound etc.,
refit (which can be fiddly), and don't worry.Â* You generally have to
push a few tiles up, fit the missing one, nail if needed, pull the
displaced tiles back. Wear gloves.


Will it happen again? Perhaps but, unless there is a problem, its
neighbour is just as likely to come off next time.




In Australia we might blame possums.


I get squirrels on the roof, not in it, but they would need to do some
serious weight lifting sessions to move our tiles, which are huge clay
wavy beasts.

We once rented a Gite (cottage if you don't use the term) in France and
there was a note explaining that, if you heard 'little foot steps' in
the bedrooms, it was pine martins in the loft. We heard the but never
say one. I think a pine martin is like a ferret. Our daughters were
still young at the time and loved it.



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On 03/02/18 22:59, dennis@home wrote:
On 03/02/2018 22:37, Simon T wrote:
It would help to know what type of tile and the age of the roof (or
house, if it is relatively new).

Here's a piccy I took last week of the hole

http://www.clipsfromthecryptserver1.com/temp/tile1.JPG

House is about 21 years old, I've lived here about 10.



You just slide the tiles above up, put a new tile on and slide them down
again.

There isn't normally any nails.


Rubbish.

Every x-th course is nailed, every 3rd is typical.

On 04/02/2018 09:50, Tim Watts wrote:
On 03/02/18 22:59, dennis@home wrote:
On 03/02/2018 22:37, Simon T wrote:
It would help to know what type of tile and the age of the roof (or
house, if it is relatively new).

Here's a piccy I took last week of the hole

http://www.clipsfromthecryptserver1.com/temp/tile1.JPG

House is about 21 years old, I've lived here about 10.



You just slide the tiles above up, put a new tile on and slide them
down again.

There isn't normally any nails.


Rubbish.

Every x-th course is nailed, every 3rd is typical.

So only a 33% chance of a nail then, assuming any at all.
Like I said then

Simon T wrote on 03/02/2018 :
http://www.clipsfromthecryptserver1.com/temp/tile1.JPG

Not very much overlap there at all. My roof has three thicknesses of
tile over the entire roof. Loose one tile and it would make absolutely
no difference to weather ingress.

Lucky you spotted it in time to prevent major damage.

On 04/02/2018 11:50, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Simon T wrote on 03/02/2018 :
http://www.clipsfromthecryptserver1.com/temp/tile1.JPG

Not very much overlap there at all. My roof has three thicknesses of
tile over the entire roof. Loose one tile and it would make absolutely
no difference to weather ingress.

Lucky you spotted it in time to prevent major damage.

Modern roofs don't rely on the tiles for weatherproofing.
The sarking underneath is what makes them weather proof, the tiles are
there to protect the sarking.

You could take all the tiles of my roof and as long as you put them back
in a few weeks/months nothing bad will happen baring a huricane.

On 04/02/18 09:50, Tim Watts wrote:
On 03/02/18 22:59, dennis@home wrote:
On 03/02/2018 22:37, Simon T wrote:
It would help to know what type of tile and the age of the roof (or
house, if it is relatively new).

Here's a piccy I took last week of the hole

http://www.clipsfromthecryptserver1.com/temp/tile1.JPG

House is about 21 years old, I've lived here about 10.



You just slide the tiles above up, put a new tile on and slide them
down again.

There isn't normally any nails.


Rubbish.

Every x-th course is nailed, every 3rd is typical.
Dennis is correct. 'Isn't normally any nails' aqples to a singlular
nail. There are always more than one


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On 04/02/18 11:50, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Simon T wrote on 03/02/2018 :
http://www.clipsfromthecryptserver1.com/temp/tile1.JPG

Not very much overlap there at all. My roof has three thicknesses of
tile over the entire roof. Loose one tile and it would make absolutely
no difference to weather ingress.

Lucky you spotted it in time to prevent major damage.

Those pantile style tiles don't have 3 overlaps - but it should be more
than shown...

On Sunday, 4 February 2018 09:48:40 UTC, Brian Reay wrote:
On 04/02/2018 09:20, FMurtz wrote:
Brian Reay wrote:
On 03/02/2018 21:38, Simon T wrote:
Had a tile come off my roof last weekend, think it must have come
loose during the high winds we had the other week, then last Saturday
it decided to slide down the roof and perch on the gutter (the sound
of it scraping down the roof being what alerted me to the problem).

Fortunately, I was able to grab it before it fell from its precarious
position and today managed to get up there and put it back in place.

However, what's troubling me is why did that one paricular tile come
loose?


Could be no more than being in just the right place for a 'gust' to do
the job.

Depending on the type/style it may only have been held by 'tabs' over
a battern and the weight of the next row. Others have nails. Some
both, our last house had both as I recall.Â* I've seen clips used on
slate style tiles in France but not seen them here but I've not
actively looked.

Having put it back, it seems no less sturdy than any of the other
tiles around it.

Should I be worried at the next high wind again?

Silly questions I know, but this is the first time this has happened
to me in the various homes I've lived in over the last 20 years or so..

I think we've lost 3 in about 40 years- all in the same night (1987).
One survived falling 3 floors (town house) and landed edge on in the
lawn- missing me byÂ* feet. Two shattered. They didn't come from the
same part of the roof.

You really need to check the mounting. If the battern is sound etc.,
refit (which can be fiddly), and don't worry.Â* You generally have to
push a few tiles up, fit the missing one, nail if needed, pull the
displaced tiles back. Wear gloves.


Will it happen again? Perhaps but, unless there is a problem, its
neighbour is just as likely to come off next time.




In Australia we might blame possums.


I get squirrels on the roof, not in it, but they would need to do some
serious weight lifting sessions to move our tiles, which are huge clay
wavy beasts.

We once rented a Gite (cottage if you don't use the term) in France and
there was a note explaining that, if you heard 'little foot steps' in
the bedrooms, it was pine martins in the loft. We heard the but never
say one. I think a pine martin is like a ferret. Our daughters were
still young at the time and loved it.


Rats more likely.

On 03/02/2018 22:59, dennis@home wrote:
On 03/02/2018 22:37, Simon T wrote:
It would help to know what type of tile and the age of the roof (or
house, if it is relatively new).

Here's a piccy I took last week of the hole

http://www.clipsfromthecryptserver1.com/temp/tile1.JPG

House is about 21 years old, I've lived here about 10.



You just slide the tiles above up, put a new tile on and slide them down
again.

There isn't normally any nails.

What roof have you got?

A standard tiled roof will always have nails, normally aluminium,
sometimes copper. Every few rows according to pitch.

People like you continually providing duff information give Usenet a bad
name.

just push the sucker back into place.....


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On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 21:38:34 +0000
Simon T wrote:

However, what's troubling me is why did that one paricular tile come
loose?

A few weeks back the wind picked up a builder's bag next door and
thrashed it around, creating a few bits of broken tile (I don't think
any of them were ours, from what I could see they slid into our drive
from next door's roof).

On 03/02/2018 22:37, Simon T wrote:
It would help to know what type of tile and the age of the roof (or
house, if it is relatively new).

Here's a piccy I took last week of the hole

http://www.clipsfromthecryptserver1.com/temp/tile1.JPG

House is about 21 years old, I've lived here about 10.


Those tiles have to be nailed. So, no nail? Also, they have a lip that
hooks over the battens. Sometimes that lip gets knocked off but the
roofer still uses the tile. If a tile is slightly proud due to a bit of
mortar or whatever stuck under it, the wind will get in and lift it.

Bill

On 04/02/2018 16:27, harry wrote:

We once rented a Gite (cottage if you don't use the term) in France and
there was a note explaining that, if you heard 'little foot steps' in
the bedrooms, it was pine martins in the loft. We heard the but never
say one. I think a pine martin is like a ferret. Our daughters were
still young at the time and loved it.


Rats more likely.


Cynic! What would you say, if you were the owner?

Remember using one when the children were very small, they were
encouraged to feed the "pet" rabbits in hutches in the garden.

Some of the biggest, fattest rabbits I have ever seen.

:-)