As sems to be well known, I have not lived in my house for over three
yesars, after being driven out by a concerted campaign of domestic abuse
from a mentally ill very nearly ex-wife.

I have maintained insurance on te property as its in my name.

Now I have got a court judgement to pay the ex off and get her out, the
lawyers raised the prospect of malicious damage.

In order to buy her out I will have to mortgage the property and rent it
out at least till I can find a way to make a ****load of money. Or sell it.

This however is what the unhelpful insurers say:

"Following our telephone conversation, I have spoken with our
Underwriters in regards to your policy for xxxxxxxxx

We are unable to transfer this across to our Landlords policy until the
property is occupied by a tenant and not by your ex-wife.

I did check the cover we provide and Theft or Malicious damage by the
tenant would be excluded under our Landlords policy as well. "

I know there are people who rent out property here. Is this normal? If
your tenant trashes the place you can't claim?


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A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on
its shoes.

On Thursday, 4 January 2018 17:01:25 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I know there are people who rent out property here. Is this normal? If
your tenant trashes the place you can't claim?

If you're prepared to pay the premium (and shop around comparing policies) you can get cover for just about anything, including non-payment of rent.

Most landlord insurance will require the tenant to be on a standard type of tenancy with a deposit in one of the protection schemes, etc.

Owain

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher writes:

As sems to be well known, I have not lived in my house for over three
yesars, after being driven out by a concerted campaign of domestic abuse
from a mentally ill very nearly ex-wife.

I have maintained insurance on te property as its in my name.

Now I have got a court judgement to pay the ex off and get her out, the
lawyers raised the prospect of malicious damage.

In order to buy her out I will have to mortgage the property and rent it
out at least till I can find a way to make a ****load of money. Or sell it.

This however is what the unhelpful insurers say:

"Following our telephone conversation, I have spoken with our
Underwriters in regards to your policy for xxxxxxxxx

We are unable to transfer this across to our Landlords policy until the
property is occupied by a tenant and not by your ex-wife.

I did check the cover we provide and Theft or Malicious damage by the
tenant would be excluded under our Landlords policy as well. "

I know there are people who rent out property here. Is this normal? If
your tenant trashes the place you can't claim?

There are specialist insurers for landlords and holiday homes.
I used one for a family house between death and sale, as that wasn't
covered by regular insurance. We weren't letting it, but it had options
to cover whatever you like right up to loss of letting income if you
are letting it. Of course, the more things you tick, the more you pay.

I don't think any insurance will pay for deliberate damage by a family
member though, divorced or not. Don't know if there's any way to do
it, but a better bet would be for your ex's payment to be reduced for
all damage which happens to the house from the date of the hearing or
valuation survey until departure, so it's not in her interests to trash
it.

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Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

On 04/01/2018 17:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

As sems to be well known, I have not lived in my house for over three
yesars, after being driven out by a concerted campaign of domestic abuse
from a mentally ill very nearly ex-wife.

I have maintained insurance on te property as its in my name.

Now I have got a court judgement to pay the ex off and get her out, the
lawyers raised the prospect of malicious damage.

In order to buy her out I will have to mortgage the property and rent it
out at least till I can find a way to make a ****load of money. Or sell it.

This however is what the unhelpful insurers say:

"Following our telephone conversation, I have spoken with our
Underwriters in regards to your policy for xxxxxxxxx

We are unable to transfer this across to our Landlords policy until the
property is occupied by a tenant and not by your ex-wife.

I did check the cover we provide and Theft or Malicious damage by the
tenant would be excluded under our Landlords policy as well. "

I know there are people who rent out property here. Is this normal? If
your tenant trashes the place you can't claim?

When MIL died, the beneficiaries decided to rent out her house. They
used a specialist firm, Rentguard Ltd, who seem to know their stuff.

There was a period whilst the place was being refurbed that the standard
landlord's policy was not available, and they had a different policy in
force - all arranged by Rentguard, who probably got two lots of
commission that year.

The policy does not cover malicious damage or theft by the tenant.
However, my understanding is that it does cover arson by the tenant.
That seems okay to me. The beneficiaries can afford to self-insure a bit
of damage by the tenant.

On 04/01/18 17:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

As sems to be well known, I have not lived in my house for over three
yesars, after being driven out by a concerted campaign of domestic abuse
from a mentally ill very nearly ex-wife.

I have maintained insurance on te property as its in my name.

Now I have got a court judgement to pay the ex off and get her out, the
lawyers raised the prospect of malicious damage.

In order to buy her out I will have to mortgage the property and rent it
out at least till I can find a way to make a ****load of money. Or sell it.

This however is what the unhelpful insurers say:

"Following our telephone conversation, I have spoken with our
Underwriters in regards to your policy for xxxxxxxxx

We are unable to transfer this across to our Landlords policy until the
property is occupied by a tenant and not by your ex-wife.

I did check the cover we provide and Theft or Malicious damage by the
tenant would be excluded under our Landlords policy as well. "

I know there are people who rent out property here. Is this normal? If
your tenant trashes the place you can't claim?



Try Fresh Insurance - they front to a load of very specialist insurers
(unoccupied, landlord, holiday homes, that sort of thing). Used them in
probate and they seem very helpful.

On 04/01/18 18:13, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

I don't think any insurance will pay for deliberate damage by a family
member though, divorced or not. Don't know if there's any way to do
it, but a better bet would be for your ex's payment to be reduced for
all damage which happens to the house from the date of the hearing or
valuation survey until departure, so it's not in her interests to trash
it.

Unfortunately my lawyers reckon the chances of gettimng a judge to agree
to that are zero.



--
€œBut what a weak barrier is truth when it stands in the way of an
hypothesis!€�

Mary Wollstonecraft

On 04/01/18 17:54, wrote:
On Thursday, 4 January 2018 17:01:25 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I know there are people who rent out property here. Is this normal? If
your tenant trashes the place you can't claim?

If you're prepared to pay the premium (and shop around comparing policies) you can get cover for just about anything, including non-payment of rent.

Most landlord insurance will require the tenant to be on a standard type of tenancy with a deposit in one of the protection schemes, etc.


yep. I am on two months deposit here.

Owain



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Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have
guns, why should we let them have ideas?

Josef Stalin

On 04/01/2018 19:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 04/01/18 18:13, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

I don't think any insurance will pay for deliberate damage by a family
member though, divorced or not. Don't know if there's any way to do
it, but a better bet would be for your ex's payment to be reduced for
all damage which happens to the house from the date of the hearing or
valuation survey until departure, so it's not in her interests to trash
it.

Unfortunately my lawyers reckon the chances of gettimng a judge to agree
to that are zero.

Perhaps better wording is required, something like "the house will be
left in good condition as indicated by these photos".