Any tips on how to was a typical polyester fibre filled pillow without
getting the fibre fill twisted or distorted in the washing machine.
I have rarely succeeded on having one come out the right shape.

"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
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Any tips on how to was a typical polyester fibre filled pillow without
getting the fibre fill twisted or distorted in the washing machine.
I have rarely succeeded on having one come out the right shape.

toss it they are cheap ...

On 08/12/2017 08:17, DerbyBorn wrote:
Any tips on how to was a typical polyester fibre filled pillow without
getting the fibre fill twisted or distorted in the washing machine.
I have rarely succeeded on having one come out the right shape.


If you have half decent pillows it's worth getting pillow protectors for
them, these are then easily removed and washed keeping your pillow in
tip top condition.

On 08/12/2017 08:17, DerbyBorn wrote:
Any tips on how to was a typical polyester fibre filled pillow without
getting the fibre fill twisted or distorted in the washing machine.
I have rarely succeeded on having one come out the right shape.


Hang on washing line and then get the garden hose out, hose down with a
moderate spray pattern and let drip dry on the line. It works for me
using cold water only.

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Yes use it as insulation in the loft and get a new one. I had a sofa with
this stuff in the cushions etc, had eventually to chuck the sofa.
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"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
2.222...
Any tips on how to was a typical polyester fibre filled pillow without
getting the fibre fill twisted or distorted in the washing machine.
I have rarely succeeded on having one come out the right shape.

toss it they are cheap ...

On 08/12/2017 08:42, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 08/12/2017 08:17, DerbyBorn wrote:
Any tips on how to was a typical polyester fibre filled pillow without
getting the fibre fill twisted or distorted in the washing machine.
I have rarely succeeded on having one come out the right shape.


If you have half decent pillows it's worth getting pillow protectors for
them, these are then easily removed and washed keeping your pillow in
tip top condition.

+1
Padded pillow protectors underneath the pillow case do help stop the
pillows from getting grubby.

For almost complete protection I have some pillows with water
proof/resistant protectors in the car (for the comfort of a often muddy
dog) that keep the pillows clean. Unlike the soft padded pillow
protectors these are made from a thin woven plastic type material.
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On Friday, 8 December 2017 08:42:26 UTC, Andy Bennet wrote:
If you have half decent pillows it's worth getting pillow protectors for
them, these are then easily removed and washed keeping your pillow in
tip top condition.

I always double-bag pillows with two pillow-cases.

Owain

On Friday, 8 December 2017 08:17:32 UTC, DerbyBorn wrote:
Any tips on how to was a typical polyester fibre filled pillow without
getting the fibre fill twisted or distorted in the washing machine.
I have rarely succeeded on having one come out the right shape.

Roll it into a sausage, stuff it through the porthole and let it expand inside the circumference of the drum. Repeat with other pillows until drum stuffed with concentrric pillows. Wash on gentle cycle with minimum spin speed.

Or do them by hand in the bath.

Owain

replying to DerbyBorn, Iggy wrote:
During the washing isn't really needed. But in the dryer, throwing in a pair
of new or washed sneakers does wonders to keep them uniformly fluffy. If you
use one of those horrible front-load washers, then you can wash the sneakers
with them too.

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Iggy wrote:

If you use one of those horrible front-load washers

The number of top-loader washing machines still in use in the UK is
vanishingly small.

then you can wash the sneakers with them too.

And have them fall to pieces, generally ...

Andy Burns wrote:
Iggy wrote:

If you use one of those horrible front-load washers

The number of top-loader washing machines still in use in the UK is
vanishingly small.

then you can wash the sneakers with them too.

And have them fall to pieces, generally ...


I once washed a pair of trainers on their own. The trainers survived,
but the drum support broke. I suppose that's how you learn these things
- the hard way :-)

replying to Andy Burns, Iggy wrote:
That's a shame, I didn't realize they were screwing you so bad...we're next.
Our top-loads lost some ground, but many people found the front-loads
noticeably under-performing and went back to a top-loader. But the sneakers,
no, they stay together just fine and even the worst clean-up to almost new in
every way...washer and dryer. They're the only things to beat the pillows back
to perfect, works like a charm.

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On Friday, 8 December 2017 16:11:19 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Iggy wrote:

If you use one of those horrible front-load washers

The number of top-loader washing machines still in use in the UK is
vanishingly small.

thank god. Top loaders use many times as much water & power per article cleaned.


NT

On 08/12/2017 22:59, wrote:
On Friday, 8 December 2017 16:11:19 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Iggy wrote:

If you use one of those horrible front-load washers

The number of top-loader washing machines still in use in the UK is
vanishingly small.

thank god. Top loaders use many times as much water & power per article cleaned.

Unless it's a twin tub and you can re-use the water until it's filthy.

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Max Demian wrote:
On 08/12/2017 22:59, wrote:
On Friday, 8 December 2017 16:11:19 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Iggy wrote:

If you use one of those horrible front-load washers

The number of top-loader washing machines still in use in the UK is
vanishingly small.

thank god. Top loaders use many times as much water & power per
article cleaned.

Unless it's a twin tub and you can re-use the water until it's filthy.

;-) My mother used to do whites first, then things not so important, and
then dusters, etc. These days you'd just fit an LED light and not worry
about the costs of heating water or the detergent.

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On Saturday, 9 December 2017 12:16:13 UTC, Max Demian wrote:
On 08/12/2017 22:59, tabbypurr wrote:
On Friday, 8 December 2017 16:11:19 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Iggy wrote:

If you use one of those horrible front-load washers

The number of top-loader washing machines still in use in the UK is
vanishingly small.

thank god. Top loaders use many times as much water & power per article cleaned.

Unless it's a twin tub and you can re-use the water until it's filthy.

still costs more.


NT

On 09/12/2017 13:10, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

first, then things not so important, and
then dusters, etc. These days you'd just fit an LED light and not worry
about the costs of heating water or the detergent.

Why do you need to heat the water? With modern detergents 95% of
washing can be done with cold water. Washing machines actually start off
with a cold wash in order not to "cook" stains in.
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On Saturday, 9 December 2017 15:03:00 UTC, alan_m wrote:
On 09/12/2017 13:10, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

first, then things not so important, and
then dusters, etc. These days you'd just fit an LED light and not worry
about the costs of heating water or the detergent.

Why do you need to heat the water? With modern detergents 95% of
washing can be done with cold water. Washing machines actually start off
with a cold wash in order not to "cook" stains in.

100% if you add a chemical or 2 when needed


NT

On 08/12/2017 09:49, wrote:
Or do them by hand in the bath.

Or tread them like grapes, in the bath.

Andrew wrote
wrote

Or do them by hand in the bath.

Or tread them like grapes, in the bath.

Dont imagine too many want to use a pillow
you have trodden, given your smelly feet.

"alan_m" wrote in message
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On 08/12/2017 08:17, DerbyBorn wrote:
Any tips on how to was a typical polyester fibre filled pillow without
getting the fibre fill twisted or distorted in the washing machine.
I have rarely succeeded on having one come out the right shape.


Hang on washing line and then get the garden hose out, hose down with a
moderate spray pattern and let drip dry on the line. It works for me using
cold water only.

Probably doesnt work that well for greasy immigrants tho.

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On Friday, 8 December 2017 16:11:19 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Iggy wrote:

If you use one of those horrible front-load washers

The number of top-loader washing machines still in use in the UK is
vanishingly small.

thank god.

There is no god, just an endless variety of crutches for pathetically
inadequate 'minds'

Top loaders use many times as much water

Irrelevant on the soggy little frigid island.

& power per article cleaned.

Bull****.

On Sunday, 10 December 2017 08:50:47 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message
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On Friday, 8 December 2017 16:11:19 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Iggy wrote:

If you use one of those horrible front-load washers

The number of top-loader washing machines still in use in the UK is
vanishingly small.

thank god.

There is no god, just an endless variety of crutches for pathetically
inadequate 'minds'

Top loaders use many times as much water

Irrelevant on the soggy little frigid island.

& power per article cleaned.

Bull****.

Only Rod is incapable of working out that heating 10x as much water to a given wash temp takes 10x as much electricity.

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On Sunday, 10 December 2017 08:50:47 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message
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On Friday, 8 December 2017 16:11:19 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Iggy wrote:

If you use one of those horrible front-load washers

The number of top-loader washing machines still in use in the UK is
vanishingly small.

thank god.

There is no god, just an endless variety of crutches for pathetically
inadequate 'minds'

Top loaders use many times as much water

Irrelevant on the soggy little frigid island.

& power per article cleaned.

Bull****.

Only Rod is incapable of working out that heating 10x as
much water to a given wash temp takes 10x as much electricity.

Anyone with even half a clue washes in cold water, ****wit.

On Monday, 11 December 2017 03:59:57 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message
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On Sunday, 10 December 2017 08:50:47 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message
...
On Friday, 8 December 2017 16:11:19 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Iggy wrote:

If you use one of those horrible front-load washers

The number of top-loader washing machines still in use in the UK is
vanishingly small.

thank god.

There is no god, just an endless variety of crutches for pathetically
inadequate 'minds'

Top loaders use many times as much water

Irrelevant on the soggy little frigid island.

& power per article cleaned.

Bull****.

Only Rod is incapable of working out that heating 10x as
much water to a given wash temp takes 10x as much electricity.

Anyone with even half a clue washes in cold water, ****wit.

You certainly do have only half a clue. Nearly everyone does not wash in cold water, most machines don't even have a program for it.

On 11/12/2017 13:27, wrote:


You certainly do have only half a clue. Nearly everyone does not wash in cold water, most machines don't even have a program for it.


Most/all machines allow a cold wash (no heating of water) - and have
done for a decade or more.

I agree that many people probably don't realise that a cold wash will
get the cloths just as clean as with a hot wash. Commonly available
washing detergents work at 15C.

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On Monday, 11 December 2017 03:59:57 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message
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On Sunday, 10 December 2017 08:50:47 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message
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On Friday, 8 December 2017 16:11:19 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Iggy wrote:

If you use one of those horrible front-load washers

The number of top-loader washing machines still in use in the UK is
vanishingly small.

thank god.

There is no god, just an endless variety of crutches for pathetically
inadequate 'minds'

Top loaders use many times as much water

Irrelevant on the soggy little frigid island.

& power per article cleaned.

Bull****.

Only Rod is incapable of working out that heating 10x as
much water to a given wash temp takes 10x as much electricity.

Anyone with even half a clue washes in cold water, ****wit.

You certainly do have only half a clue.

You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag.

Nearly everyone does not wash in cold water,

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage, and thats saying something.

most machines don't even have a program for it.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually
manage with top loaders, and thats saying something.

On 9 Dec 2017 18:09:43 GMT
Huge wrote:

On 2017-12-09, Andrew wrote:
On 08/12/2017 09:49, wrote:
[...]

Or tread them like grapes, in the bath.

Or throw them away and buy new ones.


And remember to use pillow protectors, or multiple pillow cases, so
you don't need to throw the new ones away for a while.

On 09/12/2017 18:15, Rod Speed wrote:
Andrew wrote
wrote

Or do them by hand in the bath.

Or tread them like grapes, in the bath.

Dont imagine too many want to use a pillow
you have trodden, given your smelly feet.

Just wear a pair wellies then.

On 11/12/2017 17:24, alan_m wrote:
On 11/12/2017 13:27, wrote:


You certainly do have only half a clue. Nearly everyone does not wash
in cold water, most machines don't even have a program for it.


Most/all machines allow a cold wash (no heating of water) - and have
done for a decade or more.

I agree that many people probably don't realise that a cold wash will
get the cloths just as clean as with a hot wash. Commonly available
washing detergents work at 15C.


My tapwater is lot colder than 15C today !.

On Monday, 11 December 2017 17:24:31 UTC, alan_m wrote:
On 11/12/2017 13:27, wrote:


You certainly do have only half a clue. Nearly everyone does not wash in cold water, most machines don't even have a program for it.


Most/all machines allow a cold wash (no heating of water) - and have
done for a decade or more.

I think all machines since 2013 have a 20C option.


I agree that many people probably don't realise that a cold wash will
get the cloths just as clean as with a hot wash.

And most don't realise the build up of bacteria when washing at low temps.
looking clean and being clean isn't the same.

And under 20C is only applicable to lightly soiled clothes.

On 12/12/2017 13:21, whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 11 December 2017 17:24:31 UTC, alan_m wrote:
On 11/12/2017 13:27, wrote:


You certainly do have only half a clue. Nearly everyone does not wash in cold water, most machines don't even have a program for it.


Most/all machines allow a cold wash (no heating of water) - and have
done for a decade or more.

I think all machines since 2013 have a 20C option.


I agree that many people probably don't realise that a cold wash will
get the cloths just as clean as with a hot wash.

And most don't realise the build up of bacteria when washing at low temps.
looking clean and being clean isn't the same.

And under 20C is only applicable to lightly soiled clothes.


But you would have to actually boil your cloths for minutes to kill the
all bacteria and machines don't reach those temperatures. Part of the
washing cycle is hanging out the cloths to dry/air.

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On Tuesday, 12 December 2017 13:53:53 UTC, alan_m wrote:
On 12/12/2017 13:21, whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 11 December 2017 17:24:31 UTC, alan_m wrote:
On 11/12/2017 13:27, tabbypurr wrote:


You certainly do have only half a clue. Nearly everyone does not wash in cold water, most machines don't even have a program for it.


Most/all machines allow a cold wash (no heating of water) - and have
done for a decade or more.

I think all machines since 2013 have a 20C option.


I agree that many people probably don't realise that a cold wash will
get the cloths just as clean as with a hot wash.

And most don't realise the build up of bacteria when washing at low temps.
looking clean and being clean isn't the same.

And under 20C is only applicable to lightly soiled clothes.


But you would have to actually boil your cloths for minutes to kill the
all bacteria and machines don't reach those temperatures. Part of the
washing cycle is hanging out the cloths to dry/air.

Same with dishwashers, the minority of bugs they don't wash away are spread about, it's drying that kills them.


NT

On Tuesday, 12 December 2017 13:53:53 UTC, alan_m wrote:
On 12/12/2017 13:21, whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 11 December 2017 17:24:31 UTC, alan_m wrote:
On 11/12/2017 13:27, wrote:


You certainly do have only half a clue. Nearly everyone does not wash in cold water, most machines don't even have a program for it.


Most/all machines allow a cold wash (no heating of water) - and have
done for a decade or more.

I think all machines since 2013 have a 20C option.


I agree that many people probably don't realise that a cold wash will
get the cloths just as clean as with a hot wash.

And most don't realise the build up of bacteria when washing at low temps.
looking clean and being clean isn't the same.

And under 20C is only applicable to lightly soiled clothes.


But you would have to actually boil your cloths for minutes to kill the
all bacteria and machines don't reach those temperatures.

Doesn't the same go for washing hands who uses boiling water for that ?
I think autoclaving reaches temperatures of 120C to get rid of 'all' bacteria.
Usually we just aim to get rid of as many as possible with as little effort as possible.




Part of the
washing cycle is hanging out the cloths to dry/air.

For some, but I wouldn't considering that part of the washing cycle I'd call it part of the drying cycle.

On 12/12/2017 16:14, whisky-dave wrote:


Doesn't the same go for washing hands who uses boiling water for that ?

If a processes of washing your hands in cold water with an added
ingredients works the same must work for washing machines. Plus, in the
UK most water from the rising main will be chlorinated thus adding a
disinfectant to the mix in the washing machine. Detergents also contain
bleaching agents adding to the disinfectant effect.

I think autoclaving reaches temperatures of 120C to get rid of 'all' bacteria.
Usually we just aim to get rid of as many as possible with as little effort as possible.

But many fabrics cannot be washed at a maximum temperature half or a
third of that temperatures.

Part of the
washing cycle is hanging out the cloths to dry/air.

For some, but I wouldn't considering that part of the washing cycle I'd call it part of the drying cycle.

There is little point in washing clothes if they are not dried
thoroughly afterwards. Leave damp clothes in a pile of for a day or two
and you will be able to identify them by the distinctive smell.

With any disinfectant or high temperature its also the amount of time
that the washing is sitting in the active disinfectant ingredient or at
the required temperature that is important. Do washing machines maintain
the higher temperatures for long enough to be effective against 'bugs',
especially on ECO washes?

All the rage are the steam cleaners that promise clean germ free work
surfaces, toilets, babies eating tables etc. What most people don't see
is the small print in the adverts for those products (paraphrasing)
"kills everything when held at the super-heated steam temperatures for
two MINUTES" which to me says kills bugger all when wafted around as
shown in the demonstrations.


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In article ,
Andrew wrote:
On 09/12/2017 18:15, Rod Speed wrote:
Andrew wrote
wrote

Or do them by hand in the bath.

Or tread them like grapes, in the bath.

Don‘t imagine too many want to use a pillow
you have trodden, given your smelly feet.

Just wear a pair wellies then.

but not the ones you've been using in the garden

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"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Monday, 11 December 2017 17:24:31 UTC, alan_m wrote:
On 11/12/2017 13:27, wrote:


You certainly do have only half a clue. Nearly everyone does not wash
in cold water, most machines don't even have a program for it.


Most/all machines allow a cold wash (no heating of water) - and have
done for a decade or more.

I think all machines since 2013 have a 20C option.


I agree that many people probably don't realise that a cold wash will
get the cloths just as clean as with a hot wash.

And most don't realise the build up of bacteria when washing at low temps.
looking clean and being clean isn't the same.

And under 20C is only applicable to lightly soiled clothes.

Bull****.

In article ,
alan_m wrote:
But you would have to actually boil your cloths for minutes to kill the
all bacteria and machines don't reach those temperatures. Part of the
washing cycle is hanging out the cloths to dry/air.

Do you actually have to boil to kill bacteria?

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On 13/12/2017 01:06, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
alan_m wrote:
But you would have to actually boil your cloths for minutes to kill the
all bacteria and machines don't reach those temperatures. Part of the
washing cycle is hanging out the cloths to dry/air.

Do you actually have to boil to kill bacteria?


Temperature, a quick google suggests 102C stops them reproducing, 120C+
kills them.
Lower temperatures can be used but may require the temperature to be
kept at that level for an hour.

You can also zap them chemically - chlorine in your cold water supply
for instance.

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On 13/12/2017 01:06, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
alan_m wrote:
But you would have to actually boil your cloths for minutes to kill the
all bacteria and machines don't reach those temperatures. Part of the
washing cycle is hanging out the cloths to dry/air.

Do you actually have to boil to kill bacteria?

No: soap/detergent washes them out. Surgeons don't boil their hands.

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