If an ivy had attached itself to paintwork, any easy way of removing its
adhesive after removing the ivy - other than by sanding?

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On 08/10/17 12:53, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
If an ivy had attached itself to paintwork, any easy way of removing its
adhesive after removing the ivy - other than by sanding?

I doubt it. Might be worth trying a pressure cleaner on a small area
first to see if that helps at all.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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If an ivy had attached itself to paintwork, any easy way of removing its
adhesive after removing the ivy - other than by sanding?

It's not adhesive. Its almost microscopic tendrils right on the ends
of the roots which creep into pores in the brickwork or any other
surface. If the inside of the pore forms a cavity then the tendril
will grow into that and won't easily pull out without snapping.
Given which wired brushing or heat guns applied to the surface
can't really eradicate the stuff in the pores.

Its a well known problem; at least for people who worry about
tendrils in their pores.


michael adams

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Yes indeed. I guess ivy originally climbed up rock and developed this
adoption, but it certainly does cause problems for buildings, no matter how
rustic and attactive it may look. I know that one house around here needed
all the render taking off as the Ivy had blown a lot of it and it actually
started to come away as the ivy was removed.
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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If an ivy had attached itself to paintwork, any easy way of removing its
adhesive after removing the ivy - other than by sanding?

It's not adhesive. Its almost microscopic tendrils right on the ends
of the roots which creep into pores in the brickwork or any other
surface. If the inside of the pore forms a cavity then the tendril
will grow into that and won't easily pull out without snapping.
Given which wired brushing or heat guns applied to the surface
can't really eradicate the stuff in the pores.

Its a well known problem; at least for people who worry about
tendrils in their pores.


michael adams

...

On Sun, 08 Oct 2017 12:53:05 +0100
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

If an ivy had attached itself to paintwork, any easy way of removing
its adhesive after removing the ivy - other than by sanding?

Remove the ivy by killing it and leaving it a while before you pull it
off - that way you don't get as much left behind (and don't remove as
much of your soft old bricks, which is my problem with it). Then I'd
have thought rub it down with wire wool, if the paint is smooth enough
not to snag it all to bits.

In article 20171011160929.5c581ac8@Mars,
Rob Morley wrote:
On Sun, 08 Oct 2017 12:53:05 +0100
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

If an ivy had attached itself to paintwork, any easy way of removing
its adhesive after removing the ivy - other than by sanding?

Remove the ivy by killing it and leaving it a while before you pull it
off - that way you don't get as much left behind (and don't remove as
much of your soft old bricks, which is my problem with it). Then I'd
have thought rub it down with wire wool, if the paint is smooth enough
not to snag it all to bits.

Is there an easy way to kill ivy? This one is pretty well established.

As regards gardening most of the things I plant die. Everything else is
eternal.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article 20171011160929.5c581ac8@Mars,
Rob Morley wrote:
On Sun, 08 Oct 2017 12:53:05 +0100
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

If an ivy had attached itself to paintwork, any easy way of removing
its adhesive after removing the ivy - other than by sanding?

Remove the ivy by killing it and leaving it a while before you pull it
off - that way you don't get as much left behind (and don't remove as
much of your soft old bricks, which is my problem with it). Then I'd
have thought rub it down with wire wool, if the paint is smooth enough
not to snag it all to bits.

Is there an easy way to kill ivy? This one is pretty well established.

Find where its entering the ground and cut the stems there. You may
need a prunung saw. Leave it for a few weeks and that will
show whether you've cut all the stems or there are any
you've missed.

Don't pull it down all in one lump as that will simply pull down all the
stems large and small in one go, leaving the tendrils behind. Take
it off in stages leaving just the smallest stems still sticking
to the wall. Gently levering these off will give a better
chance of bringing the tendrils with them.


michael adams

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article 20171011160929.5c581ac8@Mars,
Rob Morley wrote:
On Sun, 08 Oct 2017 12:53:05 +0100
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

If an ivy had attached itself to paintwork, any easy way of removing
its adhesive after removing the ivy - other than by sanding?

Remove the ivy by killing it and leaving it a while before you pull it
off - that way you don't get as much left behind (and don't remove as
much of your soft old bricks, which is my problem with it). Then I'd
have thought rub it down with wire wool, if the paint is smooth enough
not to snag it all to bits.

Is there an easy way to kill ivy? This one is pretty well established.

Find where its entering the ground and cut the stems there. You may
need a prunung saw. Leave it for a few weeks and that will
show whether you've cut all the stems or there are any
you've missed.

Of course that won't actually kill; it but will provide a short term
solution to its climbing up the walls.

If you actually want to kill it, apparently stem injection with glyphosate
is effective in the dormant season. There's plenty of info on the web.


michael adams

....

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 18:22:04 +0100
"michael adams" wrote:

Of course that won't actually kill; it but will provide a short term
solution to its climbing up the walls.

If you actually want to kill it, apparently stem injection with
glyphosate is effective in the dormant season. There's plenty of info
on the web.

Yet another thing to get done in the garden before everything starts
growing /again/. The neighbours opposite call it "the jungle", we like
to think of it as wildlife-friendly but there's only so much that the
plants can take over before I have to do something about it.

"Rob Morley" wrote in message news:20171011185605.738bde87@Mars...
On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 18:22:04 +0100
"michael adams" wrote:

Of course that won't actually kill; it but will provide a short term
solution to its climbing up the walls.

If you actually want to kill it, apparently stem injection with
glyphosate is effective in the dormant season. There's plenty of info
on the web.

Yet another thing to get done in the garden before everything starts
growing /again/. The neighbours opposite call it "the jungle", we like
to think of it as wildlife-friendly but there's only so much that the
plants can take over before I have to do something about it.

All creepers are fine by me, until they look like reaching the
gutters.

Horizontal growth can also a pain but is easier to get at
where necessary.


michael adams

....

In article 20171011185605.738bde87@Mars,
Rob Morley wrote:
On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 18:22:04 +0100
"michael adams" wrote:

Of course that won't actually kill; it but will provide a short term
solution to its climbing up the walls.

If you actually want to kill it, apparently stem injection with
glyphosate is effective in the dormant season. There's plenty of info
on the web.

Yet another thing to get done in the garden before everything starts
growing /again/. The neighbours opposite call it "the jungle", we like
to think of it as wildlife-friendly but there's only so much that the
plants can take over before I have to do something about it.

That was my mantra. Spent a fortune having it landscaped and planted to be
maintenance free. Discover it no longer was when you can't get into it.

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On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 7:20:58 PM UTC+1, michael adams wrote:
"Rob Morley" wrote in message news:20171011185605.738bde87@Mars...
On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 18:22:04 +0100
"michael adams" wrote:

Of course that won't actually kill; it but will provide a short term
solution to its climbing up the walls.

If you actually want to kill it, apparently stem injection with
glyphosate is effective in the dormant season. There's plenty of info
on the web.

Yet another thing to get done in the garden before everything starts
growing /again/. The neighbours opposite call it "the jungle", we like
to think of it as wildlife-friendly but there's only so much that the
plants can take over before I have to do something about it.

All creepers are fine by me, until they look like reaching the
gutters.

Horizontal growth can also a pain but is easier to get at
where necessary.


michael adams

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It grows up the wall of the garage and seeks entry through the smallest fissure into the interior of same garage. Real p.i.t.a.

On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 00:45:40 -0700 (PDT)
fred wrote:

It grows up the wall of the garage and seeks entry through the
smallest fissure into the interior of same garage. Real p.i.t.a.

It's totally invaded our greenhouse, which hasn't been used for a
while. It's not easy to remove it from between the glass panes because
they're so easy to break.

On Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 3:29:11 PM UTC+1, Rob Morley wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 00:45:40 -0700 (PDT)
fred wrote:

It grows up the wall of the garage and seeks entry through the
smallest fissure into the interior of same garage. Real p.i.t.a.

It's totally invaded our greenhouse, which hasn't been used for a
while. It's not easy to remove it from between the glass panes because
they're so easy to break.

IME ivy roots are shallow, and a paint scraper deals with the tendrils. Bit of a doddle really

stuart noble wrote:
On Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 3:29:11 PM UTC+1, Rob Morley wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 00:45:40 -0700 (PDT)
fred wrote:

It grows up the wall of the garage and seeks entry through the
smallest fissure into the interior of same garage. Real p.i.t.a.

It's totally invaded our greenhouse, which hasn't been used for a
while. It's not easy to remove it from between the glass panes because
they're so easy to break.

IME ivy roots are shallow, and a paint scraper deals with the tendrils.
Bit of a doddle really


On a flat surface maybe, but a scraper isnt much use on a rendered wall.
As I mentioned ages ago, when I removed mine I found a blowtorch and wire
brush pretty effective (for rendered surfaces). Obviously only useful if
youre planning on repainting.

Tim

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On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 17:40:04 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Is there an easy way to kill ivy? This one is pretty well established.
If it's a thick stem drill a 13mm hole in the base and hammer an
ecoplug in, failing that fill the hole with neat glyphosate and plug
it with clay.

Drax root, ammonium sulphamate, out is only available as a compost
accelerator now

AJH

In article ,
wrote:
Is there an easy way to kill ivy? This one is pretty well established.
If it's a thick stem drill a 13mm hole in the base and hammer an
ecoplug in, failing that fill the hole with neat glyphosate and plug
it with clay.

Thanks - instructions I can understand and follow. But what is an ecoplug,
and where can I buy them?

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On 13/10/2017 13:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
Is there an easy way to kill ivy? This one is pretty well established.
If it's a thick stem drill a 13mm hole in the base and hammer an
ecoplug in, failing that fill the hole with neat glyphosate and plug
it with clay.

Thanks - instructions I can understand and follow. But what is an ecoplug,
and where can I buy them?

http://bfy.tw/ESKW

First hit, neat glyphosate and a clay plug might be cheaper.

On 13/10/2017 12:36, wrote:
If it's a thick stem drill a 13mm hole in the base and hammer an
ecoplug in,

https://arbtalk.co.uk/forums/topic/43128-eco-plug-how-effective-are-they/
suggests they are an expensive but safe way to deliver glyphosate.

Andy

On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 13:47:53 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:
Is there an easy way to kill ivy? This one is pretty well established.
If it's a thick stem drill a 13mm hole in the base and hammer an
ecoplug in, failing that fill the hole with neat glyphosate and plug
it with clay.

Thanks - instructions I can understand and follow. But what is an ecoplug,
and where can I buy them?

Well you will have seen what they are by now, a bit expensive if you
only need one and you may have a little difficulty buying them or
glyphosate unless you know a farmer or lads doing tree cutting for the
railway.

http://www.garden-products.info/rootout.htm

or if you are in no hurry my e-mail address should work.

AJH