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OT Scary Road Layout - Coventry
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It's a month or so since the visit but.... My lad is at Warwick University and has a shared house in south Coventry. Whenever we have visited the Uni so far, we must have been a bit further south. This time we were following the sat-nav and probably clipping the south East corner of the city. I have never been in such a scary road system. Imagine you are travelling round one of the large roundabouts where you are given insufficient time to change lanes between exits. Then add the complication that the lanes joining and leaving the roundabout are alternately connected to underpasses and fly overs. Then to add insult to injury, vehicles are carving across the lanes in both directions to access slip roads. Has anyone been through this horrendous road system? Phil -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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TheChief wrote:
Hi all It's a month or so since the visit but.... My lad is at Warwick University and has a shared house in south Coventry. Whenever we have visited the Uni so far, we must have been a bit further south. This time we were following the sat-nav and probably clipping the south East corner of the city. I have never been in such a scary road system. Imagine you are travelling round one of the large roundabouts where you are given insufficient time to change lanes between exits. Then add the complication that the lanes joining and leaving the roundabout are alternately connected to underpasses and fly overs. Then to add insult to injury, vehicles are carving across the lanes in both directions to access slip roads. Has anyone been through this horrendous road system? Phil It's been a while since I was there. Do you mean the ring road heading out of Coventry? If so, yes, it is a total nightmare. |
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On 28/09/2017 21:08, TheChief wrote:
Hi all It's a month or so since the visit but.... My lad is at Warwick University and has a shared house in south Coventry. Whenever we have visited the Uni so far, we must have been a bit further south. This time we were following the sat-nav and probably clipping the south East corner of the city. I have never been in such a scary road system. Imagine you are travelling round one of the large roundabouts where you are given insufficient time to change lanes between exits. Then add the complication that the lanes joining and leaving the roundabout are alternately connected to underpasses and fly overs. Then to add insult to injury, vehicles are carving across the lanes in both directions to access slip roads. Has anyone been through this horrendous road system? Phil I suspect you mean the Baginton roundabout/flyover on the A45 , if you think its bad now you should have seen it before. It is actually an improvement for most locals. |
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"TheChief" wrote in message news  Hi all It's a month or so since the visit but.... My lad is at Warwick University and has a shared house in south Coventry. Whenever we have visited the Uni so far, we must have been a bit further south. This time we were following the sat-nav and probably clipping the south East corner of the city. I have never been in such a scary road system. Imagine you are travelling round one of the large roundabouts where you are given insufficient time to change lanes between exits. Then add the complication that the lanes joining and leaving the roundabout are alternately connected to underpasses and fly overs. Then to add insult to injury, vehicles are carving across the lanes in both directions to access slip roads. Has anyone been through this horrendous road system? Quite a few must have. |
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On 28/09/2017 21:08, TheChief wrote:
Hi all It's a month or so since the visit but.... My lad is at Warwick University and has a shared house in south Coventry. Whenever we have visited the Uni so far, we must have been a bit further south. This time we were following the sat-nav and probably clipping the south East corner of the city. I have never been in such a scary road system. Imagine you are travelling round one of the large roundabouts where you are given insufficient time to change lanes between exits. Then add the complication that the lanes joining and leaving the roundabout are alternately connected to underpasses and fly overs. Then to add insult to injury, vehicles are carving across the lanes in both directions to access slip roads. Has anyone been through this horrendous road system? Been there a few times. If you're attentive and competent all is fine. Birmingham has similar style of junctions. Leave sufficient room in front for a car to nip in. Adjust speed and distance accordingly. The Birmingham equivalent suggests you stay in the RH lane for normal driving with the LH lane for leaving or entering the carriageway. Roads and junctions are being more and more sanitised to the lowest common denominator of driving ability. Lets hope the current system stays as it is. |
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On 28/09/2017 21:08, TheChief wrote:
Hi all It's a month or so since the visit but.... My lad is at Warwick University and has a shared house in south Coventry. Whenever we have visited the Uni so far, we must have been a bit further south. This time we were following the sat-nav and probably clipping the south East corner of the city. I have never been in such a scary road system. Imagine you are travelling round one of the large roundabouts where you are given insufficient time to change lanes between exits. Then add the complication that the lanes joining and leaving the roundabout are alternately connected to underpasses and fly overs. Then to add insult to injury, vehicles are carving across the lanes in both directions to access slip roads. Has anyone been through this horrendous road system? Yup, the ring road in particular is an inspired bit of design - just not in a good way. Forcing everyone leaving the road to cross over everyone joining it, and limiting it all to the short distance where the slip roads join the main carriageway ;-) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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OT Scary Road Layout - Coventry
Ash Burton wrote:
On 28/09/2017 21:08, TheChief wrote: Hi all It's a month or so since the visit but.... My lad is at Warwick University and has a shared house in south Coventry. Whenever we have visited the Uni so far, we must have been a bit further south. This time we were following the sat-nav and probably clipping the south East corner of the city. I have never been in such a scary road system. Imagine you are travelling round one of the large roundabouts where you are given insufficient time to change lanes between exits. Then add the complication that the lanes joining and leaving the roundabout are alternately connected to underpasses and fly overs. Then to add insult to injury, vehicles are carving across the lanes in both directions to access slip roads. Has anyone been through this horrendous road system? Phil I suspect you mean the Baginton roundabout/flyover on the A45 , if you think its bad now you should have seen it before. It is actually an improvement for most locals. I think I know where you mean - someone ran into the back of my car when I was prevaricatng here a few years ago. I wasn't actually stationary though, so I thnk it was their faul -- Roger Hayter |
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On 28/09/2017 22:42, John Rumm wrote:
On 28/09/2017 21:08, TheChief wrote: Hi all It's a month or so since the visit but.... My lad is at Warwick University and has a shared house in south * Coventry. Whenever we have visited the Uni so far, we must have been a bit * further south. This time we were following the sat-nav and probably clipping the * south East corner of the city. I have never been in such a scary road system. Imagine you are travelling round one of the large roundabouts * where you are given insufficient time to change lanes between * exits. Then add the complication that the lanes joining and leaving the * roundabout are alternately connected to underpasses and fly * overs.* Then to add insult to injury, vehicles are carving across * the lanes in both directions to access slip roads. Has anyone been through this horrendous road system? Yup, the ring road in particular is an inspired bit of design - just not in a good way. Forcing everyone leaving the road to cross over everyone joining it, and limiting it all to the short distance where the slip roads join the main carriageway ;-) Just try the M6 / A34 junction, now that is exciting. |
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On 29/09/2017 00:34, Roger Hayter wrote:
Ash Burton wrote: On 28/09/2017 21:08, TheChief wrote: Hi all It's a month or so since the visit but.... My lad is at Warwick University and has a shared house in south Coventry. Whenever we have visited the Uni so far, we must have been a bit further south. This time we were following the sat-nav and probably clipping the south East corner of the city. I have never been in such a scary road system. Imagine you are travelling round one of the large roundabouts where you are given insufficient time to change lanes between exits. Then add the complication that the lanes joining and leaving the roundabout are alternately connected to underpasses and fly overs. Then to add insult to injury, vehicles are carving across the lanes in both directions to access slip roads. Has anyone been through this horrendous road system? Phil I suspect you mean the Baginton roundabout/flyover on the A45 , if you think its bad now you should have seen it before. It is actually an improvement for most locals. I think I know where you mean - someone ran into the back of my car when I was prevaricatng here a few years ago. I wasn't actually stationary though, so I thnk it was their faul This place? https://goo.gl/maps/WDMbLHwijcF2 Hmmm. Highway Safety Solutions, Traffix, Armac Demolition ... |
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On 29/09/2017 02:07, Fredxxx wrote:
On 28/09/2017 22:42, John Rumm wrote: On 28/09/2017 21:08, TheChief wrote: Hi all It's a month or so since the visit but.... My lad is at Warwick University and has a shared house in south * Coventry. Whenever we have visited the Uni so far, we must have been a bit * further south. This time we were following the sat-nav and probably clipping the * south East corner of the city. I have never been in such a scary road system. Imagine you are travelling round one of the large roundabouts * where you are given insufficient time to change lanes between * exits. Then add the complication that the lanes joining and leaving the * roundabout are alternately connected to underpasses and fly * overs.* Then to add insult to injury, vehicles are carving across * the lanes in both directions to access slip roads. Has anyone been through this horrendous road system? Yup, the ring road in particular is an inspired bit of design - just not in a good way. Forcing everyone leaving the road to cross over everyone joining it, and limiting it all to the short distance where the slip roads join the main carriageway ;-) Just try the M6 / A34 junction, now that is exciting. Heh. It's only excitingt at middling traffic levels, when stuff is dense but moving. Often it's too gridlocked to be exciting. http://www.cbrd.co.uk/badjunctions/6-34 There's an interesting legend about why it's like that: allegedy the position was miscalculated, making it neccesary to put two sliproads on the inside. No idea if it's true. |
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On 28/09/2017 21:08, TheChief wrote:
Hi all It's a month or so since the visit but.... My lad is at Warwick University and has a shared house in south Coventry. Whenever we have visited the Uni so far, we must have been a bit further south. This time we were following the sat-nav and probably clipping the south East corner of the city. I have never been in such a scary road system. Imagine you are travelling round one of the large roundabouts where you are given insufficient time to change lanes between exits. Then add the complication that the lanes joining and leaving the roundabout are alternately connected to underpasses and fly overs. Then to add insult to injury, vehicles are carving across the lanes in both directions to access slip roads. Has anyone been through this horrendous road system? Phil Coventry ring road? It's "interesting" at times, and the first place I remember seeing speed cameras. Before that it was very interesting indeed, but most of it is technique: leave a right=sized gap and let traffic merge, and don't hesitate. Much, as another poster has said, like Birmingham's Queensway tunnels as the A38 cuts through the city. |
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Coventry ring road? It's "interesting" at times, and the first place I remember seeing speed cameras. Before that it was very interesting indeed, but most of it is technique: leave a right=sized gap and let traffic merge, and don't hesitate. Much, as another poster has said, like Birmingham's Queensway tunnels as the A38 cuts through the city. http://www.cbrd.co.uk/articles/coventry-ring-road |
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On 28/09/2017 21:08, TheChief wrote:
Hi all It's a month or so since the visit but.... My lad is at Warwick University and has a shared house in south Coventry. Whenever we have visited the Uni so far, we must have been a bit further south. This time we were following the sat-nav and probably clipping the south East corner of the city. I have never been in such a scary road system. Imagine you are travelling round one of the large roundabouts where you are given insufficient time to change lanes between exits. Then add the complication that the lanes joining and leaving the roundabout are alternately connected to underpasses and fly overs. Then to add insult to injury, vehicles are carving across the lanes in both directions to access slip roads. Has anyone been through this horrendous road system? Phil Everyday for 30 years and its fine. Rural drivers need more practice IMO. |
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On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 21:08:03 +0100, TheChief wrote:
Has anyone been through this horrendous road system? Oh yes - dreadful layout - but try doing it with a tri-axle trailer with a 2 tonne load on it if you really want some fun. |
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On 28/09/17 21:52, Ash Burton wrote:
I suspect you mean the Baginton roundabout/flyover on the A45 , if you think its bad now you should have seen it before. It is actually an improvement for most locals. There's a roundabout somewhere coming into Harrow where 3 lanes go to 2. That's common enough. Except the dork who designed it made lane 1+2 merge in about 50 yards with no road markings and no signs: What sort of dickhead does that - It's nearly given me a heart attack twice. *******s. |
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"TheChief" wrote in message news Hi all It's a month or so since the visit but.... My lad is at Warwick University and has a shared house in south Coventry. Whenever we have visited the Uni so far, we must have been a bit further south. This time we were following the sat-nav and probably clipping the south East corner of the city. I have never been in such a scary road system. Imagine you are travelling round one of the large roundabouts where you are given insufficient time to change lanes between exits. Then add the complication that the lanes joining and leaving the roundabout are alternately connected to underpasses and fly overs. Then to add insult to injury, vehicles are carving across the lanes in both directions to access slip roads. Has anyone been through this horrendous road system? you mean the ring road? Often been cited as a way not to build a road TPTB know, with hindsight, that they got it wrong and learned the lesson for future roads But it's too late now for this one. tim |
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On Thursday, 28 September 2017 21:08:07 UTC+1, TheChief wrote:
Hi all It's a month or so since the visit but.... My lad is at Warwick University and has a shared house in south Coventry. Whenever we have visited the Uni so far, we must have been a bit further south. This time we were following the sat-nav and probably clipping the south East corner of the city. I have never been in such a scary road system. Imagine you are travelling round one of the large roundabouts where you are given insufficient time to change lanes between exits. Then add the complication that the lanes joining and leaving the roundabout are alternately connected to underpasses and fly overs. Then to add insult to injury, vehicles are carving across the lanes in both directions to access slip roads. Has anyone been through this horrendous road system? Phil -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ Yes and I go there as little as possible for all the reasons you mention. Jonathan |
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"Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 28/09/17 21:52, Ash Burton wrote: I suspect you mean the Baginton roundabout/flyover on the A45 , if you think its bad now you should have seen it before. It is actually an improvement for most locals. There's a roundabout somewhere coming into Harrow where 3 lanes go to 2. That's common enough. Except the dork who designed it made lane 1+2 merge in about 50 yards with no road markings and no signs: Presumably you mean this one https://goo.gl/maps/TJiNosRhFi32 There are very clear road markings there. What sort of dickhead does that - What sort of dickhead drives when he has clearly wanked himself completely blind ? It's nearly given me a heart attack twice. *******s. You were warned about that furious wanking, boy. |
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On 29/09/2017 09:10, dennis@home wrote:
On 28/09/2017 21:08, TheChief wrote: Hi all It's a month or so since the visit but.... My lad is at Warwick University and has a shared house in south Â* Coventry. Whenever we have visited the Uni so far, we must have been a bit Â* further south. This time we were following the sat-nav and probably clipping the Â* south East corner of the city. I have never been in such a scary road system. Imagine you are travelling round one of the large roundabouts Â* where you are given insufficient time to change lanes between Â* exits. Then add the complication that the lanes joining and leaving the Â* roundabout are alternately connected to underpasses and fly Â* overs.Â* Then to add insult to injury, vehicles are carving across Â* the lanes in both directions to access slip roads. Has anyone been through this horrendous road system? Phil Everyday for 30 years and its fine. Rural drivers need more practice IMO. Driving ability is being dumbed down, not helped with decrepit councillors unable to drive and wet themselves on installing traffic lights. I too think it is fine. When I have a problem with this style of junction it's probably time I simply stopped driving. |
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"Jethro_uk" wrote in message news since we're in that neck of the woods ... I hope it's not a trend, but there are a couple of junctions in the Midlands which have popped up which are - frankly - too wide open. Teh A461/A4123 intersection being a good example. How do you look this one up ? A461/A4123 intersection doesnt work in google maps. Probably a football pitches worth of open tarmac, acting as the centrepiece for 8 roads (that's 4xduak carriageways) and not a marking in sight. It's so big, there's no "straight on". |
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"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "Jethro_uk" wrote in message news since we're in that neck of the woods ... I hope it's not a trend, but there are a couple of junctions in the Midlands which have popped up which are - frankly - too wide open. Teh A461/A4123 intersection being a good example. How do you look this one up ? A461/A4123 intersection doesnt work in google maps. Turns out to work if you use the maps tab in google, it offers the intersection with the normal road names. But doesnt label A461 as that much, so you have to zoom out till you see that added to that one. Pretty poor UI IMO. Probably a football pitches worth of open tarmac, acting as the centrepiece for 8 roads (that's 4xduak carriageways) and not a marking in sight. It's so big, there's no "straight on". |
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On 28/09/17 21:08, TheChief wrote:
Hi all It's a month or so since the visit but.... My lad is at Warwick University and has a shared house in south Coventry. Whenever we have visited the Uni so far, we must have been a bit further south. This time we were following the sat-nav and probably clipping the south East corner of the city. I have never been in such a scary road system. Imagine you are travelling round one of the large roundabouts where you are given insufficient time to change lanes between exits. Then add the complication that the lanes joining and leaving the roundabout are alternately connected to underpasses and fly overs. Then to add insult to injury, vehicles are carving across the lanes in both directions to access slip roads. Has anyone been through this horrendous road system? Oh yes, I was at Warwick 1997€“2002. Coventry is best avoided altogether, Leamington is much nicer. Phil -- djc (–€Ì¿Ä¹Ì¯–€Ì¿ Ì¿) No low-hanging fruit, just a lot of small berries up a tall tree. |
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