On Friday, 22 September 2017 12:10:36 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Is it cheaper to make batteries cylindrical or something? If they were square in crosssection, they wouldn't roll off the desk.

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I think the real reason was because AA was meant to replace SP7/HP7s so if they'd made the AA square they wouldn't be able to be used in the products that took SP7/HP7s

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 15:08:08 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 14:58:40 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 22 September 2017 12:10:36 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Is it cheaper to make batteries cylindrical or something? If they were square in crosssection, they wouldn't roll off the desk.

I think the real reason was because AA was meant to replace SP7/HP7s so if they'd made the AA square they wouldn't be able to be used in the products that took SP7/HP7s

Never heard of those, and Google just produces AAs which are also listed as being an SP7/HP7. Have you got a link to one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery

Historically, it is known as SP7 (Standard Power 7) or HP7 (High Power 7) in official documentation the United Kingdom, though it is colloquially known as a "double A battery".

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 16:15:22 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:08:23 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 15:08:08 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 14:58:40 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 22 September 2017 12:10:36 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Is it cheaper to make batteries cylindrical or something? If they were square in crosssection, they wouldn't roll off the desk.

I think the real reason was because AA was meant to replace SP7/HP7s so if they'd made the AA square they wouldn't be able to be used in the products that took SP7/HP7s

Never heard of those, and Google just produces AAs which are also listed as being an SP7/HP7. Have you got a link to one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery

Historically, it is known as SP7 (Standard Power 7) or HP7 (High Power 7) in official documentation the United Kingdom, though it is colloquially known as a "double A battery".

So AA didn't replace SP7, it's just another name, of which there are about 20.


Which is why AA had to be the same shape and size and it didn't replace SP7 it mostly replaced HP7 .

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...ad.php?t=95550

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the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:


But it didn't replace HP7. It was just a name change.

Geezuz Christ ...for how long are you going to go on about that now again?
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On 27/09/2017 16:08, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 15:08:08 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 14:58:40 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 22 September 2017 12:10:36 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Is it cheaper to make batteries cylindrical or something? If they were square in crosssection, they wouldn't roll off the desk.

I think the real reason was because AA was meant to replace SP7/HP7s so if they'd made the AA square they wouldn't be able to be used in the products that took SP7/HP7s

Never heard of those, and Google just produces AAs which are also listed as being an SP7/HP7. Have you got a link to one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery

Historically, it is known as SP7 (Standard Power 7) or HP7 (High Power 7) in official documentation the United Kingdom, though it is colloquially known as a "double A battery".

Originally batteries had names:

Penlight battery, sometimes two cells in a cardboard case. The single
cell version became U12, and HP7 for the "high power" (zinc chloride)
type - which was rather irregular, as the standard power type wasn't
called U7 - then AA.

Bijou (always two cells in a cardboard case) - I forget what number they
had. 4 digits I think. Discontinued.

Baby Torch battery, which became the U11, or HP11 for the "high power"
(zinc chloride) type, then C size.

Standard Torch battery, which became the U2, or HP2 for the "high power"
(zinc chloride) type, then D size.

Flat Torch battery, with three cells side by side and brass prongs on
the top as terminals. That had a 4-digit designation too. Still available.

Lantern Battery which became 996 and now back to Lantern.

And then there's the rectangular Bell battery, which originally had nice
brass screw terminals on top.

Grid bias battery, with multiple sockets for wander plugs...

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Max Demian

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 17:51:18 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:35:00 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 16:15:22 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:08:23 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 15:08:08 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 14:58:40 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 22 September 2017 12:10:36 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Is it cheaper to make batteries cylindrical or something? If they were square in crosssection, they wouldn't roll off the desk.

I think the real reason was because AA was meant to replace SP7/HP7s so if they'd made the AA square they wouldn't be able to be used in the products that took SP7/HP7s

Never heard of those, and Google just produces AAs which are also listed as being an SP7/HP7. Have you got a link to one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery

Historically, it is known as SP7 (Standard Power 7) or HP7 (High Power 7) in official documentation the United Kingdom, though it is colloquially known as a "double A battery".

So AA didn't replace SP7, it's just another name, of which there are about 20.


Which is why AA had to be the same shape and size and it didn't replace SP7 it mostly replaced HP7 .

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...ad.php?t=95550

But it didn't replace HP7. It was just a name change.

Yes I know which is why it was a good idea to keep it the same shape and dimentions Making AA square would have meant them not being usable in any equipment which previously used HP7s, and that;'s why i think they decided to make them cylindical, I doubt they considered the problems you had such as batteries rolling odd the table as very significant to teh majority.

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 19:23:40 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 27/09/2017 16:08, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 15:08:08 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 14:58:40 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 22 September 2017 12:10:36 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Is it cheaper to make batteries cylindrical or something? If they were square in crosssection, they wouldn't roll off the desk.

I think the real reason was because AA was meant to replace SP7/HP7s so if they'd made the AA square they wouldn't be able to be used in the products that took SP7/HP7s

Never heard of those, and Google just produces AAs which are also listed as being an SP7/HP7. Have you got a link to one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery

Historically, it is known as SP7 (Standard Power 7) or HP7 (High Power 7) in official documentation the United Kingdom, though it is colloquially known as a "double A battery".

Originally batteries had names:

Like Fred, George, Mary , you call them what you want to, mine just had ID's which indicated their size and voltage.


Penlight battery, sometimes two cells in a cardboard case. The single
cell version became U12, and HP7 for the "high power" (zinc chloride)
type - which was rather irregular, as the standard power type wasn't
called U7 - then AA.

Bijou (always two cells in a cardboard case) - I forget what number they
had. 4 digits I think. Discontinued.

Baby Torch battery, which became the U11, or HP11 for the "high power"
(zinc chloride) type, then C size.

Standard Torch battery, which became the U2, or HP2 for the "high power"
(zinc chloride) type, then D size.

Flat Torch battery, with three cells side by side and brass prongs on
the top as terminals. That had a 4-digit designation too. Still available.

Lantern Battery which became 996 and now back to Lantern.

And then there's the rectangular Bell battery, which originally had nice
brass screw terminals on top.

Grid bias battery, with multiple sockets for wander plugs...

--
Max Demian

On 28/09/2017 10:39, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 19:23:40 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 27/09/2017 16:08, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 15:08:08 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 14:58:40 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 22 September 2017 12:10:36 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Is it cheaper to make batteries cylindrical or something? If they were square in crosssection, they wouldn't roll off the desk.

I think the real reason was because AA was meant to replace SP7/HP7s so if they'd made the AA square they wouldn't be able to be used in the products that took SP7/HP7s

Never heard of those, and Google just produces AAs which are also listed as being an SP7/HP7. Have you got a link to one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery

Historically, it is known as SP7 (Standard Power 7) or HP7 (High Power 7) in official documentation the United Kingdom, though it is colloquially known as a "double A battery".

Originally batteries had names:

Like Fred, George, Mary , you call them what you want to, mine just had ID's which indicated their size and voltage.

I suppose IRL you don't have a name; just an ID.

--
Max Demian

On Thursday, 28 September 2017 11:20:47 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 28/09/2017 10:39, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 19:23:40 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 27/09/2017 16:08, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 15:08:08 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 14:58:40 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 22 September 2017 12:10:36 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Is it cheaper to make batteries cylindrical or something? If they were square in crosssection, they wouldn't roll off the desk.

I think the real reason was because AA was meant to replace SP7/HP7s so if they'd made the AA square they wouldn't be able to be used in the products that took SP7/HP7s

Never heard of those, and Google just produces AAs which are also listed as being an SP7/HP7. Have you got a link to one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery

Historically, it is known as SP7 (Standard Power 7) or HP7 (High Power 7) in official documentation the United Kingdom, though it is colloquially known as a "double A battery".

Originally batteries had names:

Like Fred, George, Mary , you call them what you want to, mine just had ID's which indicated their size and voltage.

I suppose IRL you don't have a name; just an ID.

No IRL I can use both for myself, but I can't tell one AA battery from another unless the label on them indicates a differnece.

On 28/09/2017 13:09, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 28 September 2017 11:20:47 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 28/09/2017 10:39, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 19:23:40 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:

Originally batteries had names:

Like Fred, George, Mary , you call them what you want to, mine just had ID's which indicated their size and voltage.

I suppose IRL you don't have a name; just an ID.

No IRL I can use both for myself, but I can't tell one AA battery from another unless the label on them indicates a differnece.

In the days when batteries had names there was only one kind:
zinc/carbon with ammonium chloride electrolyte.

--
Max Demian

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:43:07 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:

FLUSH the attention whore's endless BULL**** unread

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On Thursday, 28 September 2017 19:13:13 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 28/09/2017 13:09, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 28 September 2017 11:20:47 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 28/09/2017 10:39, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 19:23:40 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:

Originally batteries had names:

Like Fred, George, Mary , you call them what you want to, mine just had ID's which indicated their size and voltage.

I suppose IRL you don't have a name; just an ID.

No IRL I can use both for myself, but I can't tell one AA battery from another unless the label on them indicates a differnece.

In the days when batteries had names there was only one kind:
zinc/carbon with ammonium chloride electrolyte.

They had labels not names I didn't name any of my batteries.
And I'm pretty sure in them days they had IDs otherwise you wouldn't know what battery to fit in which device.

On Thursday, 28 September 2017 19:43:09 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:13:08 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

On 28/09/2017 13:09, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 28 September 2017 11:20:47 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 28/09/2017 10:39, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 19:23:40 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:

Originally batteries had names:

Like Fred, George, Mary , you call them what you want to, mine just had ID's which indicated their size and voltage.

I suppose IRL you don't have a name; just an ID.

No IRL I can use both for myself, but I can't tell one AA battery from another unless the label on them indicates a differnece.

In the days when batteries had names there was only one kind:
zinc/carbon with ammonium chloride electrolyte.

When I were a lad, there was Zinc Carbon (the ones that leaked in your radio and made you have to clean the connections),

Didn't those also have cardboard as their case, and the leak was a lovely brown colour.

Zinc Chloride (better), and Alkaline (the ones that actually lasted more than 1 day. I never saw the point in anything but Alkaline, it superseded the two Zinc ones.

I saw the point of NiCds, and of lead acid.


Nowadays I buy Alkaline for things that last for ages, like a clock or a thermostat, and NiMH or LiIon rechargeables (whichever the device prefers) for stuff that uses a fair amount of power.

yes that's true but you also have to take into acount the physical dimentions of the battery to ensure it'll fit in your device. LiPo batteriues seem popular for drones and they seem to be used a lot for medical applications and remote body sensing.

On 29/09/2017 11:23, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 28 September 2017 19:43:09 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:13:08 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

In the days when batteries had names there was only one kind:
zinc/carbon with ammonium chloride electrolyte.

When I were a lad, there was Zinc Carbon (the ones that leaked in your radio and made you have to clean the connections),

Didn't those also have cardboard as their case, and the leak was a lovely brown colour.

The cases of zinc carbon (or zinc chloride) cells (apart from the layer
type such as PP3) was always zinc (which was the negative electrode and
dissolved away in normal use). There was a paper layer around the
outside (or sometimes cardboard if there were two cells together), that
bore the maker's name. "Leakproof" batteries had an extra layer of thin
steel on the outside and the bottom, and plastic at the top.
Non-leakproof batteries were sealed with pitch at the top.

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On 29/09/2017 11:12, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 28 September 2017 19:13:13 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 28/09/2017 13:09, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 28 September 2017 11:20:47 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 28/09/2017 10:39, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 19:23:40 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:

Originally batteries had names:

Like Fred, George, Mary , you call them what you want to, mine just had ID's which indicated their size and voltage.

I suppose IRL you don't have a name; just an ID.

No IRL I can use both for myself, but I can't tell one AA battery from another unless the label on them indicates a differnece.

In the days when batteries had names there was only one kind:
zinc/carbon with ammonium chloride electrolyte.

They had labels not names I didn't name any of my batteries.
And I'm pretty sure in them days they had IDs otherwise you wouldn't know what battery to fit in which device.

So what's the difference between a name and an ID? (Terms like U2 and
U11 didn't exist until the mid 60s.)

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FLUSH sociopath's inevitable DRIVEL

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On Friday, 29 September 2017 20:34:08 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 29/09/2017 11:12, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 28 September 2017 19:13:13 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 28/09/2017 13:09, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 28 September 2017 11:20:47 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 28/09/2017 10:39, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 19:23:40 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:

Originally batteries had names:

Like Fred, George, Mary , you call them what you want to, mine just had ID's which indicated their size and voltage.

I suppose IRL you don't have a name; just an ID.

No IRL I can use both for myself, but I can't tell one AA battery from another unless the label on them indicates a differnece.

In the days when batteries had names there was only one kind:
zinc/carbon with ammonium chloride electrolyte.

They had labels not names I didn't name any of my batteries.
And I'm pretty sure in them days they had IDs otherwise you wouldn't know what battery to fit in which device.

So what's the difference between a name and an ID? (Terms like U2 and
U11 didn't exist until the mid 60s.)

So what;s the differnce between a term and ID a name and a label.

So was it your parents that labeled you Max or was it a form of ID?

On Friday, 29 September 2017 22:55:45 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 11:23:24 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:


Didn't those also have cardboard as their case, and the leak was a lovely brown colour.

Yes, and you speak of them as though they don't still make them. They are still sold (as "ultra high power").

Still encased in paper or cardboard as their main form of protection.?


Zinc Chloride (better), and Alkaline (the ones that actually lasted more than 1 day. I never saw the point in anything but Alkaline, it superseded the two Zinc ones.

I saw the point of NiCds, and of lead acid.

I was talking about single use batteries.

Theere were others silver oxide and zinc air have high capacities and still used.


Nowadays I buy Alkaline for things that last for ages, like a clock or a thermostat, and NiMH or LiIon rechargeables (whichever the device prefers) for stuff that uses a fair amount of power.

yes that's true but you also have to take into acount the physical dimentions of the battery to ensure it'll fit in your device. LiPo batteriues seem popular for drones and they seem to be used a lot for medical applications and remote body sensing.

There's AA size of alkaline, NiMH and LiIon.

Yes as I said AA is a size which is why they didn't make them square because AA were the same size as HP7s and they like/

On Monday, 2 October 2017 01:03:12 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 10:34:24 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 17:51:18 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:35:00 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 16:15:22 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:08:23 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 15:08:08 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 14:58:40 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 22 September 2017 12:10:36 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Is it cheaper to make batteries cylindrical or something? If they were square in crosssection, they wouldn't roll off the desk.

I think the real reason was because AA was meant to replace SP7/HP7s so if they'd made the AA square they wouldn't be able to be used in the products that took SP7/HP7s

Never heard of those, and Google just produces AAs which are also listed as being an SP7/HP7. Have you got a link to one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery

Historically, it is known as SP7 (Standard Power 7) or HP7 (High Power 7) in official documentation the United Kingdom, though it is colloquially known as a "double A battery".

So AA didn't replace SP7, it's just another name, of which there are about 20.


Which is why AA had to be the same shape and size and it didn't replace SP7 it mostly replaced HP7 .

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...ad.php?t=95550

But it didn't replace HP7. It was just a name change.

Yes I know which is why it was a good idea to keep it the same shape and dimentions Making AA square would have meant them not being usable in any equipment which previously used HP7s, and that;'s why i think they decided to make them cylindical, I doubt they considered the problems you had such as batteries rolling odd the table as very significant to teh majority.

Think back to when the shape was first designed. Did they not think about stuff falling off tables?

Probbaly not, otherwise such things as tennis balls, footballs...
and what about car wheels they'd just roll away when you tried to fit them totally stupid idea they should have done what the Egyptians did and make them pyrimids so they didn't roll away when being fitted.

On 02/10/2017 11:12, whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 2 October 2017 01:03:12 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 10:34:24 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 17:51:18 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:35:00 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 16:15:22 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:08:23 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 15:08:08 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 14:58:40 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 22 September 2017 12:10:36 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Is it cheaper to make batteries cylindrical or something? If they were square in crosssection, they wouldn't roll off the desk.

I think the real reason was because AA was meant to replace SP7/HP7s so if they'd made the AA square they wouldn't be able to be used in the products that took SP7/HP7s

Never heard of those, and Google just produces AAs which are also listed as being an SP7/HP7. Have you got a link to one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery

Historically, it is known as SP7 (Standard Power 7) or HP7 (High Power 7) in official documentation the United Kingdom, though it is colloquially known as a "double A battery".

So AA didn't replace SP7, it's just another name, of which there are about 20.


Which is why AA had to be the same shape and size and it didn't replace SP7 it mostly replaced HP7 .

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...ad.php?t=95550

But it didn't replace HP7. It was just a name change.

Yes I know which is why it was a good idea to keep it the same shape and dimentions Making AA square would have meant them not being usable in any equipment which previously used HP7s, and that;'s why i think they decided to make them cylindical, I doubt they considered the problems you had such as batteries rolling odd the table as very significant to teh majority.

Think back to when the shape was first designed. Did they not think about stuff falling off tables?

Probbaly not, otherwise such things as tennis balls, footballs...
and what about car wheels they'd just roll away when you tried to fit them totally stupid idea they should have done what the Egyptians did and make them pyrimids so they didn't roll away when being fitted.

Or the square wheels used by the Britons in Carry on Cleo.

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On 02/10/2017 10:56, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 29 September 2017 20:34:08 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:

So what's the difference between a name and an ID? (Terms like U2 and
U11 didn't exist until the mid 60s.)

So what;s the differnce between a term and ID a name and a label.

When the cops ask you for your ID they want more than your name (in US
cop shows). (British cops just ask you for your name and address
supposedly.)

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On Monday, 2 October 2017 14:32:16 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 02/10/2017 10:56, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 29 September 2017 20:34:08 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:

So what's the difference between a name and an ID? (Terms like U2 and
U11 didn't exist until the mid 60s.)

So what;s the differnce between a term and ID a name and a label.

When the cops ask you for your ID they want more than your name.

And if you didn't give it, they could charge you, you could be accused of assualt and battery is that it ;-)

When a studnet asks me for a barrery I asked them what type. When they say 1.5V then I asked them what size. AA or AAA are those we use.
If they ask for a 9V they'll get a PP3. I often get asked for 5V battereis and I say we havent; got any.
If they ask for a battery called Tom, Dick or Harry I'd asked them for the order code and supplier.



(in US
cop shows). (British cops just ask you for your name and address
supposedly.)

sometimes they ask DOB too.
At my college there's another with the same name as me, so just a name wouldn't be much to truely ID a person.

Same with batteries really.

On Monday, 2 October 2017 15:41:28 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 14:55:22 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Monday, 2 October 2017 14:32:16 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 02/10/2017 10:56, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 29 September 2017 20:34:08 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:

So what's the difference between a name and an ID? (Terms like U2 and
U11 didn't exist until the mid 60s.)

So what;s the differnce between a term and ID a name and a label.

When the cops ask you for your ID they want more than your name.

And if you didn't give it, they could charge you, you could be accused of assualt and battery is that it ;-)

In the USA that wouldn't surprise me. FFS they have a law against crossing the road without waiting for the green man (or walk signal in their case).

I think it's called j-walking.


When a studnet asks me for a barrery I asked them what type. When they say 1.5V then I asked them what size. AA or AAA are those we use.

To that question I then usually get "er.... the really thin one".

I'd say, what for a realyl thick student, I do try to educate my students, I;d like to think that when a studetn leaves with a degree they can atv least telll batteries apart. Our thin batteries are mostly LiPos.

https://www.rapidonline.com/trupower...350mah-70-0003



If they ask for a 9V they'll get a PP3. I often get asked for 5V battereis and I say we havent; got any.
If they ask for a battery called Tom, Dick or Harry I'd asked them for the order code and supplier.

I'd ask them if they'd forgotten their medication.

yes that would be a good reply.


(in US
cop shows). (British cops just ask you for your name and address
supposedly.)

sometimes they ask DOB too.
At my college there's another with the same name as me, so just a name wouldn't be much to truely ID a person.

Does he live at your address?

No but sometimes we get each others emails. (email addresses)



Same with batteries really.

Not if you also gave their address, which I guess would be "kitchen clock".

wouldnl't tell me which type of battery they took would it.

I just installed a remote (wirless) battery bell push unit.
The battery is the bell push is apparently a 12V 23A alkaline battery according to the instruction manual.
See how much confusion can arrise that;s why I try to be clear to all my students, a student asked me for our box cutters she meant end cutters so I showed her the differnce between our end cutters and our side cutters.

Its why I like to find the proper name for things even if I then prefer not to use it.

On Monday, 2 October 2017 15:42:32 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 11:12:26 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Monday, 2 October 2017 01:03:12 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 10:34:24 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 17:51:18 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:35:00 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 16:15:22 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:08:23 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 15:08:08 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 14:58:40 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 22 September 2017 12:10:36 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Is it cheaper to make batteries cylindrical or something? If they were square in crosssection, they wouldn't roll off the desk.

I think the real reason was because AA was meant to replace SP7/HP7s so if they'd made the AA square they wouldn't be able to be used in the products that took SP7/HP7s

Never heard of those, and Google just produces AAs which are also listed as being an SP7/HP7. Have you got a link to one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery

Historically, it is known as SP7 (Standard Power 7) or HP7 (High Power 7) in official documentation the United Kingdom, though it is colloquially known as a "double A battery".

So AA didn't replace SP7, it's just another name, of which there are about 20.


Which is why AA had to be the same shape and size and it didn't replace SP7 it mostly replaced HP7 .

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...ad.php?t=95550

But it didn't replace HP7. It was just a name change.

Yes I know which is why it was a good idea to keep it the same shape and dimentions Making AA square would have meant them not being usable in any equipment which previously used HP7s, and that;'s why i think they decided to make them cylindical, I doubt they considered the problems you had such as batteries rolling odd the table as very significant to teh majority.

Think back to when the shape was first designed. Did they not think about stuff falling off tables?

Probbaly not, otherwise such things as tennis balls, footballs...
and what about car wheels they'd just roll away when you tried to fit them totally stupid idea they should have done what the Egyptians did and make them pyrimids so they didn't roll away when being fitted.

Those things are required to roll to perform their function. Batteries aren't.

Those AA had to be cyclindrical to fit in the applieances they were made for
it's that simple.


Somebody once told me a NiCd AA would explode if dropped :-)

That's a weird story to tell anyone.

On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 15:43:57 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:


How come it's America -- Americans, but Britain -- Britons, and Canada -- Canadians?
It should be Britains and Canadans. I always say they live in Canadia to annoy them.

You say that because you are a congenital idiot, Birdbrain! And, yes, that
was quoteworthy again, poor idiot! BG

--
More of Birdbrain Macaw's (now "James Wilkinson" LOL) endless sociopathic
babble:
"I eat real food, not stuff that's already been eaten and created into an
animal. Does your digestive system lack this ability?"
MID:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 15:42:25 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:


Those things are required to roll to perform their function. Batteries aren't.

Somebody once told me a NiCd AA would explode if dropped :-)

Are you STILL going on about your idiotic batteries, you ****ed up, stupid
attention whore?

--
More from Birdbrain Macaw's (now "James Wilkinson" LOL) strange sociopathic
world:
"The most comfortable underwear is no underwear. And that's quite normal
for both sexes."
MID:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 15:41:24 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:

FLUSH all the usual sick bull**** unread again

--
ItsJoanNotJoann addressing Birdbrain Macaw's (now "James Wilkinson" LOL):
"You're an annoying troll and I'm done with you and your
stupidity."
MID:

--
AndyW addressing Birdbrain:
"Troll or idiot?...
You have been presented with a viewpoint with information, reasoning,
historical cases, citations and references to back it up and wilfully
ignore all going back to your idea which has no supporting information."
MID:

--
Phil Lee adressing Birdbrain Macaw:
"You are too stupid to be wasting oxygen."
MID:

--
Phil Lee describing Birdbrain Macaw:
"I've never seen such misplaced pride in being a ****ing moronic motorist."
MID:

--
Tony944 addressing Birdbrain Macaw:
"I seen and heard many people but you are on top of list being first class
ass hole jerk. ...You fit under unconditional Idiot and should be put in
mental institution.
MID:

--
Pelican to Birdbrain Macaw:
"Ok. I'm persuaded . You are an idiot."
MID:

--
DerbyDad03 addressing Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL):
"Frigging Idiot. Get the hell out of my thread."
MID:

--
Kerr Mudd-John about Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL):
"It's like arguing with a demented frog."
MID:

--
Mr Pounder Esquire about Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL):
"the **** poor delivery boy with no hot running water, 11 cats and
several parrots living in his hovel."
MID:

--
Rob Morley about Birdbrain:
"He's a perennial idiot"
MID: 20170519215057.56a1f1d4@Mars

--
JoeyDee to Birdbrain
"I apologize for thinking you were a jerk. You're just someone with an IQ
lower than your age, and I accept that as a reason for your comments."
MID: l-september.org

--
Sam Plusnet about Birdbrain (now "James Wilkinson Sword" LOL):
"He's just desperate to be noticed. Any attention will do, no matter how
negative it may be."
MID:

--
asking Birdbrain:
"What, were you dropped on your head as a child?"
MID:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 17:07:16 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:


Some people are scared of technology. I was also told mixing a half used
Duracell with a new one would cause an explosion as the emptier one would
eventually get reverse charged. Apparently this did happen in a
calculator, which I find hard to believe as the current going through it
would be tiny.

There just is no end to your utterly weird stories that people allegedly
told you, Birdbrain. Could be that you ONLY know inmates from your time in
the loony bin, Birdbrain. But I'm more or less convinced now that you keep
making those stories up on the go, as suits your purpose.

--
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"Someone (a Scotsman) once told me he doesn't bother wiping his arse if he's
about to have a shower anyway."
MID:

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 2 October 2017 01:03:12 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 10:34:24 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 17:51:18 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:35:00 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 16:15:22 UTC+1, James Wilkinson
Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:08:23 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 15:08:08 UTC+1, James Wilkinson
Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 14:58:40 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Friday, 22 September 2017 12:10:36 UTC+1, James Wilkinson
Sword wrote:
Is it cheaper to make batteries cylindrical or something? If
they were square in crosssection, they wouldn't roll off the
desk.

I think the real reason was because AA was meant to replace
SP7/HP7s so if they'd made the AA square they wouldn't be able
to be used in the products that took SP7/HP7s

Never heard of those, and Google just produces AAs which are
also listed as being an SP7/HP7. Have you got a link to one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery

Historically, it is known as SP7 (Standard Power 7) or HP7 (High
Power 7) in official documentation the United Kingdom, though it
is colloquially known as a "double A battery".

So AA didn't replace SP7, it's just another name, of which there
are about 20.


Which is why AA had to be the same shape and size and it didn't
replace SP7 it mostly replaced HP7 .

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...ad.php?t=95550

But it didn't replace HP7. It was just a name change.

Yes I know which is why it was a good idea to keep it the same shape
and dimentions Making AA square would have meant them not being usable
in any equipment which previously used HP7s, and that;'s why i think
they decided to make them cylindical, I doubt they considered the
problems you had such as batteries rolling odd the table as very
significant to teh majority.

Think back to when the shape was first designed. Did they not think
about stuff falling off tables?

Probbaly not, otherwise such things as tennis balls, footballs...
and what about car wheels they'd just roll away when you tried to fit them
totally stupid idea they should have done what the Egyptians did and make
them pyrimids so they didn't roll away when being fitted.

Those fiendish japs had enough of a clue to have no wheels at all, not even
on wheel barrows.

They weren't into football or tennis either.

They got their jollys chopping of the heads of the peasants
with ****ing great swords if they didnt get out of the road
quick enough. And those dont roll of the table either.

Even their chopsticks are square where it matters so they dont roll off the
table either.

On 02/10/2017 15:43, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 14:29:09 +0100, Max Demian
wrote:
On 02/10/2017 11:12, whisky-dave wrote:

Probbaly not, otherwise such things as tennis balls, footballs...
and what about car wheels they'd just roll away when you tried to fit
them totally stupid idea they should have done what the* Egyptians
did and make them pyrimids so they didn't roll away when being fitted.

Or the square wheels used by the Britons in Carry on Cleo.

How come it's America -- Americans, but Britain -- Britons, and Canada
-- Canadians?
It should be Britains and Canadans.* I always say they live in Canadia
to annoy them.

There aren't any Britons, except in newspapers and the past, woad
painted kind.

There isn't a word for an inhabitant of Britain. Or the UK for that matter.

--
Max Demian

On 02/10/2017 14:55, whisky-dave wrote:

When a studnet asks me for a barrery I asked them what type. When they say 1.5V then I asked them what size. AA or AAA are those we use.
If they ask for a 9V they'll get a PP3.

They might want a PP9 for a portable radio. That's what British made
large portables used (though I bought a Roberts in 1977 or so that took
either C or D size, depending on whether you installed the mains
adapter). A few years ago "retro" radios were popular and some of those
took PP9s - I've no idea why as the electronics was all new.

I often get asked for 5V battereis and I say we havent; got any.
If they ask for a battery called Tom, Dick or Harry I'd asked them for the order code and supplier.

What if they ask for a Baby or a Bijou?

--
Max Demian

On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 20:54:40 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

On 02/10/2017 14:55, whisky-dave wrote:

When a studnet asks me for a barrery I asked them what type. When they
say 1.5V then I asked them what size. AA or AAA are those we use.
If they ask for a 9V they'll get a PP3.

They might want a PP9 for a portable radio. That's what British made
large portables used (though I bought a Roberts in 1977 or so that took
either C or D size, depending on whether you installed the mains
adapter). A few years ago "retro" radios were popular and some of those
took PP9s - I've no idea why as the electronics was all new.

I had one that took *two* PP9s! Decca TP85.

http://www.1900s.org.uk/radio-images/edco-u354.jpg

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On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 21:12:13 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:


I remember something being called a baby - C cell?

I remember MANY people calling you an idiot, Birdbrain!

--
ItsJoanNotJoann addressing Birdbrain Macaw's (now "James Wilkinson" LOL):
"You're an annoying troll and I'm done with you and your
stupidity."
MID:

--
AndyW addressing Birdbrain:
"Troll or idiot?...
You have been presented with a viewpoint with information, reasoning,
historical cases, citations and references to back it up and wilfully
ignore all going back to your idea which has no supporting information."
MID:

--
Phil Lee adressing Birdbrain Macaw:
"You are too stupid to be wasting oxygen."
MID:

--
Phil Lee describing Birdbrain Macaw:
"I've never seen such misplaced pride in being a ****ing moronic motorist."
MID:

--
Tony944 addressing Birdbrain Macaw:
"I seen and heard many people but you are on top of list being first class
ass hole jerk. ...You fit under unconditional Idiot and should be put in
mental institution.
MID:

--
Pelican to Birdbrain Macaw:
"Ok. I'm persuaded . You are an idiot."
MID:

--
DerbyDad03 addressing Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL):
"Frigging Idiot. Get the hell out of my thread."
MID:

--
Kerr Mudd-John about Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL):
"It's like arguing with a demented frog."
MID:

--
Mr Pounder Esquire about Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL):
"the **** poor delivery boy with no hot running water, 11 cats and
several parrots living in his hovel."
MID:

--
Rob Morley about Birdbrain:
"He's a perennial idiot"
MID: 20170519215057.56a1f1d4@Mars

--
JoeyDee to Birdbrain
"I apologize for thinking you were a jerk. You're just someone with an IQ
lower than your age, and I accept that as a reason for your comments."
MID: l-september.org

--
Sam Plusnet about Birdbrain (now "James Wilkinson Sword" LOL):
"He's just desperate to be noticed. Any attention will do, no matter how
negative it may be."
MID:

--
asking Birdbrain:
"What, were you dropped on your head as a child?"
MID:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 21:46:39 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:



Ah, the modern transistor radio!

Ah, the village idiot had to open his stupid gob again!

--
More of Birdbrain Macaw's (now "James Wilkinson" LOL) endless sociopathic
bull****:
"Why would anyone want a long haired cat? That's as ridiculous as having a
beard."
MID:

"Max Demian" wrote in message
news
On 02/10/2017 15:43, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 14:29:09 +0100, Max Demian
wrote:
On 02/10/2017 11:12, whisky-dave wrote:

Probbaly not, otherwise such things as tennis balls, footballs...
and what about car wheels they'd just roll away when you tried to fit
them totally stupid idea they should have done what the Egyptians did
and make them pyrimids so they didn't roll away when being fitted.

Or the square wheels used by the Britons in Carry on Cleo.

How come it's America -- Americans, but Britain -- Britons, and Canada --
Canadians?
It should be Britains and Canadans. I always say they live in Canadia to
annoy them.

There aren't any Britons, except in newspapers and the past, woad painted
kind.

There isn't a word for an inhabitant of Britain. Or the UK for that
matter.

Corse there are, they are poms, usually whingeing poms.

"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 16:00:30 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Monday, 2 October 2017 15:41:28 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 14:55:22 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Monday, 2 October 2017 14:32:16 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 02/10/2017 10:56, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 29 September 2017 20:34:08 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:

So what's the difference between a name and an ID? (Terms like U2
and
U11 didn't exist until the mid 60s.)

So what;s the differnce between a term and ID a name and a label.

When the cops ask you for your ID they want more than your name.

And if you didn't give it, they could charge you, you could be accused
of assualt and battery is that it ;-)

In the USA that wouldn't surprise me. FFS they have a law against
crossing the road without waiting for the green man (or walk signal in
their case).

I think it's called j-walking.

Indeed. Americans are so stupid they get into trouble for endangering
themselves.

When a studnet asks me for a barrery I asked them what type. When they
say 1.5V then I asked them what size. AA or AAA are those we use.

To that question I then usually get "er.... the really thin one".

I'd say, what for a realyl thick student, I do try to educate my
students, I;d like to think that when a studetn leaves with a degree they
can atv least telll batteries apart. Our thin batteries are mostly LiPos.

https://www.rapidonline.com/trupower...350mah-70-0003

You can get those in AAA can you?

If they ask for a 9V they'll get a PP3. I often get asked for 5V
battereis and I say we havent; got any.
If they ask for a battery called Tom, Dick or Harry I'd asked them for
the order code and supplier.

I'd ask them if they'd forgotten their medication.

yes that would be a good reply.

(in US
cop shows). (British cops just ask you for your name and address
supposedly.)

sometimes they ask DOB too.
At my college there's another with the same name as me, so just a name
wouldn't be much to truely ID a person.

Does he live at your address?

No but sometimes we get each others emails. (email addresses)

There should be more names so everyone is unique.

That's why I now call myself Englebert WeaselStrangler.

Same with batteries really.

Not if you also gave their address, which I guess would be "kitchen
clock".

wouldnl't tell me which type of battery they took would it.

All clocks use AA.

I just installed a remote (wirless) battery bell push unit.
The battery is the bell push is apparently a 12V 23A alkaline battery
according to the instruction manual.
See how much confusion can arrise that;s why I try to be clear to all my
students, a student asked me for our box cutters she meant end cutters so
I showed her the differnce between our end cutters and our side cutters.

Its why I like to find the proper name for things even if I then prefer
not to use it.

99% of people are thick, ignorant, or just plain stupid.

--
And if there were a god, I think it very unlikely that he would have such
an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt his existence --
Bertrand Russell

On Monday, 2 October 2017 17:07:20 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 16:47:50 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Monday, 2 October 2017 15:42:32 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 11:12:26 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Monday, 2 October 2017 01:03:12 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 10:34:24 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 17:51:18 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:35:00 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 16:15:22 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:08:23 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 15:08:08 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 14:58:40 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 22 September 2017 12:10:36 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Is it cheaper to make batteries cylindrical or something? If they were square in crosssection, they wouldn't roll off the desk.

I think the real reason was because AA was meant to replace SP7/HP7s so if they'd made the AA square they wouldn't be able to be used in the products that took SP7/HP7s

Never heard of those, and Google just produces AAs which are also listed as being an SP7/HP7. Have you got a link to one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery

Historically, it is known as SP7 (Standard Power 7) or HP7 (High Power 7) in official documentation the United Kingdom, though it is colloquially known as a "double A battery".

So AA didn't replace SP7, it's just another name, of which there are about 20.


Which is why AA had to be the same shape and size and it didn't replace SP7 it mostly replaced HP7 .

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...ad.php?t=95550

But it didn't replace HP7. It was just a name change.

Yes I know which is why it was a good idea to keep it the same shape and dimentions Making AA square would have meant them not being usable in any equipment which previously used HP7s, and that;'s why i think they decided to make them cylindical, I doubt they considered the problems you had such as batteries rolling odd the table as very significant to teh majority.

Think back to when the shape was first designed. Did they not think about stuff falling off tables?

Probbaly not, otherwise such things as tennis balls, footballs...
and what about car wheels they'd just roll away when you tried to fit them totally stupid idea they should have done what the Egyptians did and make them pyrimids so they didn't roll away when being fitted.

Those things are required to roll to perform their function. Batteries aren't.

Those AA had to be cyclindrical to fit in the applieances they were made for
it's that simple.

You can make an appliance any shape.

So, why make cars squarish why not round or pyramid shape ?

I guess yuo failed those inteligence tests as a child when given blocks of differnt shapes to put in similar shaped holes.
Did you sit there crying because you couldn't get the square peg in the round hole, or crying because the round hole was your arse.


Somebody once told me a NiCd AA would explode if dropped :-)

That's a weird story to tell anyone.

Some people are scared of technology. I was also told mixing a half used Duracell with a new one would cause an explosion as the emptier one would eventually get reverse charged. Apparently this did happen in a calculator, which I find hard to believe as the current going through it would be tiny.


Well you shouldn't try to charge non rechargable batteries, but I do remember a device you could buy that was said to recharge old alkaline batteries.

On Monday, 2 October 2017 20:08:51 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 2 October 2017 01:03:12 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 10:34:24 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 17:51:18 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:35:00 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 16:15:22 UTC+1, James Wilkinson
Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:08:23 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Wednesday, 27 September 2017 15:08:08 UTC+1, James Wilkinson
Sword wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 14:58:40 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Friday, 22 September 2017 12:10:36 UTC+1, James Wilkinson
Sword wrote:
Is it cheaper to make batteries cylindrical or something? If
they were square in crosssection, they wouldn't roll off the
desk.

I think the real reason was because AA was meant to replace
SP7/HP7s so if they'd made the AA square they wouldn't be able
to be used in the products that took SP7/HP7s

Never heard of those, and Google just produces AAs which are
also listed as being an SP7/HP7. Have you got a link to one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery

Historically, it is known as SP7 (Standard Power 7) or HP7 (High
Power 7) in official documentation the United Kingdom, though it
is colloquially known as a "double A battery".

So AA didn't replace SP7, it's just another name, of which there
are about 20.


Which is why AA had to be the same shape and size and it didn't
replace SP7 it mostly replaced HP7 .

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...ad.php?t=95550

But it didn't replace HP7. It was just a name change.

Yes I know which is why it was a good idea to keep it the same shape
and dimentions Making AA square would have meant them not being usable
in any equipment which previously used HP7s, and that;'s why i think
they decided to make them cylindical, I doubt they considered the
problems you had such as batteries rolling odd the table as very
significant to teh majority.

Think back to when the shape was first designed. Did they not think
about stuff falling off tables?

Probbaly not, otherwise such things as tennis balls, footballs...
and what about car wheels they'd just roll away when you tried to fit them
totally stupid idea they should have done what the Egyptians did and make
them pyrimids so they didn't roll away when being fitted.

Those fiendish japs had enough of a clue to have no wheels at all, not even
on wheel barrows.

What have the japs got to do with it ?


They weren't into football or tennis either.

but tehy are into baseball and they use round balls just like everyone else does who plays baseball.
Thier sumo boxing rings are round or circular unlike western boxign rings which are square. So how come we dontl have round boxing rings ?.
Why don't boxers train in round rings ?


They got their jollys chopping of the heads of the peasants
with ****ing great swords if they didnt get out of the road
quick enough. And those dont roll of the table either.

You've never heard the expression heads will roll.


Even their chopsticks are square where it matters so they dont roll off the
table either.

That's not the reason, and it's the handle that is shaped, most are still rounded with the edges smoothed.

On Monday, 2 October 2017 20:54:46 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 02/10/2017 14:55, whisky-dave wrote:

When a studnet asks me for a barrery I asked them what type. When they say 1.5V then I asked them what size. AA or AAA are those we use.
If they ask for a 9V they'll get a PP3.

They might want a PP9 for a portable radio.

Well they aren't getting one from me. I don't supply batteries for personal use in the home, we supply batteries for labs we run and when a student needs them for a particular project.


That's what British made
large portables used (though I bought a Roberts in 1977 or so that took
either C or D size, depending on whether you installed the mains
adapter). A few years ago "retro" radios were popular and some of those
took PP9s - I've no idea why as the electronics was all new.

Because it was retro perhaps.
So we invent a new style of pacemaker or other medical device that need to take PP9 batteries I don't think so.
And NASA are loking at coal fired space ships yes sure.


I often get asked for 5V battereis and I say we havent; got any.
If they ask for a battery called Tom, Dick or Harry I'd asked them for the order code and supplier.

What if they ask for a Baby or a Bijou?

They can ask for whatever they want, doesn't mean they'll get it from me.

On Monday, 2 October 2017 20:43:55 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 02/10/2017 15:43, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 14:29:09 +0100, Max Demian
wrote:
On 02/10/2017 11:12, whisky-dave wrote:

Probbaly not, otherwise such things as tennis balls, footballs...
and what about car wheels they'd just roll away when you tried to fit
them totally stupid idea they should have done what theÂ* Egyptians
did and make them pyrimids so they didn't roll away when being fitted..

Or the square wheels used by the Britons in Carry on Cleo.

How come it's America -- Americans, but Britain -- Britons, and Canada
-- Canadians?
It should be Britains and Canadans.Â* I always say they live in Canadia
to annoy them.

There aren't any Britons, except in newspapers and the past, woad
painted kind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_people

British people, or Britons, are the citizens of the United Kingdom,






There isn't a word for an inhabitant of Britain. Or the UK for that matter.