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The street where I live is infested with cats and the stinking little
****ers crap all over my garden. So I'm looking for a cat proof fence to keep them out. This looks like it would do the job: https:// colourfence.co.uk/ . It's made from powder coated steel, so the furry bags of **** shouldn't be able to climb it. Anyone had any experience of the product? Any other fencing systems worth considering? |
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:34:47 +0000, Chris wrote:
The street where I live is infested with cats and the stinking little ****ers crap all over my garden. So I'm looking for a cat proof fence to keep them out. This looks like it would do the job: https:// colourfence.co.uk/ . It's made from powder coated steel, so the furry bags of **** shouldn't be able to climb it. Anyone had any experience of the product? Any other fencing systems worth considering? Link broke: https://colourfence.co.uk/ |
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:34:47 +0000, Chris wrote:
Any other fencing systems worth considering? Electric. See your local agricultural suppliers. -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition. |
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:55:05 +0000, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:34:47 +0000, Chris wrote: Any other fencing systems worth considering? Electric. See your local agricultural suppliers. I tried 5kV from a Megger BM11 to some fuse wire strung between 2 old cable rods. The idea was that once the cats had been trained up a bit just the fuse wire without any voltage would be enough to keep them away. Though it is amusing to watch what happens when they sniff at a wire with 5kV on it, it turns out that cats are too ****ing stupid to learn from the experience. |
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![]() "Cursitor Doom" wrote in message news ![]() On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:34:47 +0000, Chris wrote: Any other fencing systems worth considering? Electric. See your local agricultural suppliers. Doesnt work with cats and isnt legal for houses anyway. |
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Well some is OK it is normally fast pulsed or indeed RF based but costly. as
has been noted though, it very seldom works for cats. they tend to learn how to bypass this sort of device and you cannot electrify the whole side of your property. A few weeks with a water pistol can work wonders though. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "Cursitor Doom" wrote in message news ![]() On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:34:47 +0000, Chris wrote: Any other fencing systems worth considering? Electric. See your local agricultural suppliers. Doesn't work with cats and isnt legal for houses anyway. |
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![]() "Brian Gaff" wrote in message news ![]() Well some is OK it is normally fast pulsed or indeed RF based but costly. as has been noted though, it very seldom works for cats. they tend to learn how to bypass this sort of device and you cannot electrify the whole side of your property. A few weeks with a water pistol can work wonders though. A night or two with a shotgun works a lot better. "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "Cursitor Doom" wrote in message news ![]() On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:34:47 +0000, Chris wrote: Any other fencing systems worth considering? Electric. See your local agricultural suppliers. Doesn't work with cats and isnt legal for houses anyway. |
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 08:57:40 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote: Well some is OK it is normally fast pulsed or indeed RF based but costly. as has been noted though, it very seldom works for cats. they tend to learn how to bypass this sort of device and you cannot electrify the whole side of your property. A few weeks with a water pistol can work wonders though. I caught one of the cats in my garden and kept squirting it with a high-powered water pistol. It ended up cowering in the garden, shaking. It didn't come back for a couple of weeks but now it seems to have forgotten about it since its unwanted visits have started again - although it does run away when it sees me. |
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I can also report that ultrasonic don't work for protecting specific
areas.Back in my youth when I could see, I put one of these in the middle of my Mothers garden and the next day two cats were there playing football with it. They could obviously hear it and thought it was something alive. So much for technology. Lion poo is quite good used to bean able to get it round here but since Chessington became a 'resort' its far too posh to have a stall flogging bags of big cat poo to the public. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "Cursitor Doom" wrote in message news ![]() On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:34:47 +0000, Chris wrote: Any other fencing systems worth considering? Electric. See your local agricultural suppliers. -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition. |
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Cursitor Doom Wrote in message:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:34:47 +0000, Chris wrote: Any other fencing systems worth considering? Electric. See your local agricultural suppliers. -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition. Would an electric fence above a residential fence be legal in a rural garden? -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Sun, 01 Oct 2017 22:25:42 +0100, TheChief wrote:
Would an electric fence above a residential fence be legal in a rural garden? Who's going to know anyway? -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition. |
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Cursitor Doom wrote
TheChief wrote Would an electric fence above a residential fence be legal in a rural garden? Who's going to know anyway? Anyone watching the cats react to it. And if they dont, its useless for keeping them out. |
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On 23/09/2017 12:34, Chris wrote:
The street where I live is infested with cats and the stinking little ****ers crap all over my garden. So I'm looking for a cat proof fence to keep them out. This looks like it would do the job: https:// colourfence.co.uk/ . It's made from powder coated steel, so the furry bags of **** shouldn't be able to climb it. Anyone had any experience of the product? Any other fencing systems worth considering? There no such thing as a cat proof fence for a garden. The only real option you have is to trap them and keep them in the trap for a couple of days without food or water - preferably in the rain. After that experience they will not venture in your garden again. With a bit of luck the cat owner will post about a missing cat so that you can return all the **** back to them. -- mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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![]() "alan_m" wrote in message ... On 23/09/2017 12:34, Chris wrote: The street where I live is infested with cats and the stinking little ****ers crap all over my garden. So I'm looking for a cat proof fence to keep them out. This looks like it would do the job: https:// colourfence.co.uk/ . It's made from powder coated steel, so the furry bags of **** shouldn't be able to climb it. Anyone had any experience of the product? Any other fencing systems worth considering? There no such thing as a cat proof fence for a garden. The only real option you have is to trap them and keep them in the trap for a couple of days without food or water - preferably in the rain. After that experience they will not venture in your garden again. With a bit of luck the cat owner will post about a missing cat so that you can return all the **** back to them. And get to eat that **** if its Adam's Toby. |
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On Saturday, 23 September 2017 12:34:50 UTC+1, Chris wrote:
Any other fencing systems worth considering? Get yourself a larger cat. Owain |
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On 23/09/2017 14:59, ARW wrote:
On 23/09/2017 13:54, wrote: On Saturday, 23 September 2017 12:34:50 UTC+1, ChrisÂ* wrote: Any other fencing systems worth considering? Get yourself a larger cat. Or a life. Or a dog. |
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On 24/09/2017 12:41, newshound wrote:
On 23/09/2017 14:59, ARW wrote: On 23/09/2017 13:54, wrote: On Saturday, 23 September 2017 12:34:50 UTC+1, ChrisÂ* wrote: Any other fencing systems worth considering? Get yourself a larger cat. Or a life. Or a dog. I know quite a few people with all three. -- Adam |
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Yes they always go to the loo in other gardens. They also have territories
as well so a more capable cat may well cause stress to others. Also of course unless you are very very lucky, much of what you attribute to cats is usually urban foxes. they dig under fences and crap and **** everywhere and smell worse than cats. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! wrote in message ... On Saturday, 23 September 2017 12:34:50 UTC+1, Chris wrote: Any other fencing systems worth considering? Get yourself a larger cat. Owain |
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:34:47 +0000 (UTC)
Chris wrote: Any other fencing systems worth considering? https://www.katzecure.com/ |
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Steve wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Chris wrote: Any other fencing systems worth considering? https://www.katzecure.com/ I've had complete success with a PIR triggered ultrasonic scarer. I modified it to run from a 6v dc wallwart instead of the 4 aa cells that it was designed to use and all sealed up with neutral cure silicone sealant. It is located at one corner of a roughly 7m square grassed area with flower beds on 3 sides and no sign to any cats deposits since I installed it a couple of years back. The garden is completely open on one side and used to be a regular short cut for local felines, ****ting as they went but no more. Even if you had to run several for a larger area, it would be much cheaper than fencing. Bob |
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On 23/09/2017 15:54, Bob Minchin wrote:
I've had complete success with a PIR triggered ultrasonic scarer. I modified it to run from a 6v dc wallwart instead of the 4 aa cells that it was designed to use and all sealed up with neutral cure silicone sealant. It is located at one corner of a roughly 7m square grassed area with flower beds on 3 sides and no sign to any cats deposits since I installed it a couple of years back. The garden is completely open on one side and used to be a regular short cut for local felines, ****ting as they went but no more. Even if you had to run several for a larger area, it would be much cheaper than fencing. I've got one of those with regular piles of cat **** in front of it! -- mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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alan_m wrote:
On 23/09/2017 15:54, Bob Minchin wrote: I've had complete success with a PIR triggered ultrasonic scarer. I modified it to run from a 6v dc wallwart instead of the 4 aa cells that it was designed to use and all sealed up with neutral cure silicone sealant. It is located at one corner of a roughly 7m square grassed area with flower beds on 3 sides and no sign to any cats deposits since I installed it a couple of years back. The garden is completely open on one side and used to be a regular short cut for local felines, ****ting as they went but no more. Even if you had to run several for a larger area, it would be much cheaper than fencing. I've got one of those with regular piles of cat **** in front of it! What is that stuff called that you put into the cooling system of a car? The stuff that prevents the coolant freezing up? |
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On 23/09/2017 17:37, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
What is that stuff called that you put into the cooling system of a car? The stuff that prevents the coolant freezing up? Mixed with cat food it acts as a slow acting laxative and hopefully the owner gets the runny load when cat has to go at short notice. -- mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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![]() "Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message news ![]() alan_m wrote: On 23/09/2017 15:54, Bob Minchin wrote: I've had complete success with a PIR triggered ultrasonic scarer. I modified it to run from a 6v dc wallwart instead of the 4 aa cells that it was designed to use and all sealed up with neutral cure silicone sealant. It is located at one corner of a roughly 7m square grassed area with flower beds on 3 sides and no sign to any cats deposits since I installed it a couple of years back. The garden is completely open on one side and used to be a regular short cut for local felines, ****ting as they went but no more. Even if you had to run several for a larger area, it would be much cheaper than fencing. I've got one of those with regular piles of cat **** in front of it! What is that stuff called that you put into the cooling system of a car? The stuff that prevents the coolant freezing up? Antifreeze. And the next time you use it, the neighbours will know it was you now that Adam has told them about what you get up to. |
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 17:31:25 +0100
alan_m wrote: On 23/09/2017 15:54, Bob Minchin wrote: I've had complete success with a PIR triggered ultrasonic scarer. I modified it to run from a 6v dc wallwart instead of the 4 aa cells that it was designed to use and all sealed up with neutral cure silicone sealant. It is located at one corner of a roughly 7m square grassed area with flower beds on 3 sides and no sign to any cats deposits since I installed it a couple of years back. The garden is completely open on one side and used to be a regular short cut for local felines, ****ting as they went but no more. Even if you had to run several for a larger area, it would be much cheaper than fencing. I've got one of those with regular piles of cat **** in front of it! There was a cat that used to **** in my porch, I put down some cat repellent pellets from B&Q - it used them as cat litter. I borrowed a terrier off a friend. |
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alan_m wrote
Bob Minchin wrote I've had complete success with a PIR triggered ultrasonic scarer. I modified it to run from a 6v dc wallwart instead of the 4 aa cells that it was designed to use and all sealed up with neutral cure silicone sealant. It is located at one corner of a roughly 7m square grassed area with flower beds on 3 sides and no sign to any cats deposits since I installed it a couple of years back. The garden is completely open on one side and used to be a regular short cut for local felines, ****ting as they went but no more. Even if you had to run several for a larger area, it would be much cheaper than fencing. I've got one of those with regular piles of cat **** in front of it! Presumably that cat is deaf or has a particularly warped sense of humour and wears ear protectors when it drops the turds there. Either way, you need a PIR triggered electric fence there. |
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On 23 Sep 2017 17:07:04 GMT
Huge wrote: On 23/09/2017 15:54, Bob Minchin wrote: I've had complete success with a PIR triggered ultrasonic scarer. I find 1oz of #9 shot doing about 1000fps most efficacious. 9s, eh. curses Recently bought 1000 Gamebore 6s from he http://www.justcartridges.com I'm pretty sure that my life would rapidly turn to **** if I fired a shotgun in my suburban garden. An experienced working terrier in your garden for a week really is the best bet. Looks like there might be a rental business opportunity. |
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![]() "Huge" wrote in message ... On 23/09/2017 15:54, Bob Minchin wrote: I've had complete success with a PIR triggered ultrasonic scarer. I find 1oz of #9 shot doing about 1000fps most efficacious. And that’s why your neighbours kept setting fire to your bins. |
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 14:59:02 +0100, Steve wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Chris wrote: Any other fencing systems worth considering? https://www.katzecure.com/ Why aren't the rollers just stacked on top of each other on the top of the fence? |
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On 23/09/2017 22:06, Chris wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 14:59:02 +0100, Steve wrote: On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Chris wrote: Any other fencing systems worth considering? https://www.katzecure.com/ Why aren't the rollers just stacked on top of each other on the top of the fence? Its the overhang that does the job. The cat has to jump from the vertical backwards and outwards and then the roller will spin in a direction to drop the cat downwards. If the rollers were stacked above each other the cat could bypass the lower one and then be catapulted outwards on the top roller. Those fences are primarily designed to keep your own cat in your own garden and not necessarily to keep other cat out. -- mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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![]() "alan_m" wrote in message ... On 23/09/2017 22:06, Chris wrote: On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 14:59:02 +0100, Steve wrote: On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Chris wrote: Any other fencing systems worth considering? https://www.katzecure.com/ Why aren't the rollers just stacked on top of each other on the top of the fence? Its the overhang that does the job. The cat has to jump from the vertical backwards and outwards and then the roller will spin in a direction to drop the cat downwards. Its more to provide a wide enough rotating area at the top of the fence. If it was just one roller, some cats could leap right over it. If the rollers were stacked above each other the cat could bypass the lower one The lower one would in fact have no purpose at all. and then be catapulted outwards on the top roller. Those fences are primarily designed to keep your own cat in your own garden and not necessarily to keep other cat out. They prevent any cat from successfully landing on the top of the fence. Its far from clear how long they continue to rotate well enough to stop a cat tho. |
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On 24/09/2017 02:04, Rod Speed wrote:
Its far from clear how long they continue to rotate well enough to stop a cat tho. Quote:
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Steve wrote Chris wrote Any other fencing systems worth considering? https://www.katzecure.com/ Why aren't the rollers just stacked on top of each other on the top of the fence? Because the bottom one wouldnt do anything. |
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Chris wrote: Any other fencing systems worth considering? https://www.katzecure.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIbkLjjlMV8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goZ2DqMnaGc |
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Steve wrote Chris wrote Any other fencing systems worth considering? https://www.katzecure.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIbkLjjlMV8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goZ2DqMnaGc Weird. The local cats love my jungle but never **** on my car or doors. |
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Chris wrote
The street where I live is infested with cats and the stinking little ****ers crap all over my garden. So I'm looking for a cat proof fence to keep them out. This looks like it would do the job: https://colourfence.co.uk/ . It's made from powder coated steel, so the furry bags of **** shouldn't be able to climb it. Doesnt stop ours. One of my neighbour's cats regularly wanders along the top of mine and jumps off whenever it feels like doing that. Anyone had any experience of the product? Yep, doesnt stop any cat around here. Any other fencing systems worth considering? Only full cages. Some do that to keep their own cats in. They'd obviously work to keep the cats out too, but look utterly obscene IMO. |
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The problem is if you don't allow any way to dig under it, then you won't
get any hedgehogs and your garden will be eaten by slugs. The big problem with most cats is that they just love freshly tilled soil and usually have a favoured spot. I think rather than be worried about where thy go to the loo though I'd be more worried about eye fate of the bird population if there are so many of them. In my view all cats should be fitted with bells. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "Chris" wrote in message news ![]() The street where I live is infested with cats and the stinking little ****ers crap all over my garden. So I'm looking for a cat proof fence to keep them out. This looks like it would do the job: https:// colourfence.co.uk/ . It's made from powder coated steel, so the furry bags of **** shouldn't be able to climb it. Anyone had any experience of the product? Any other fencing systems worth considering? |
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On 24/09/2017 08:49, Brian Gaff wrote:
The problem is if you don't allow any way to dig under it, then you won't get any hedgehogs and your garden will be eaten by slugs. The big problem with most cats is that they just love freshly tilled soil and usually have a favoured spot. I think rather than be worried about where thy go to the loo though I'd be more worried about eye fate of the bird population if there are so many of them. In my view all cats should be fitted with bells. Brian We fitted bells to ours. It didn't work. |
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![]() "GB" wrote in message news ![]() On 24/09/2017 08:49, Brian Gaff wrote: The problem is if you don't allow any way to dig under it, then you won't get any hedgehogs and your garden will be eaten by slugs. The big problem with most cats is that they just love freshly tilled soil and usually have a favoured spot. I think rather than be worried about where thy go to the loo though I'd be more worried about eye fate of the bird population if there are so many of them. In my view all cats should be fitted with bells. Brian We fitted bells to ours. It didn't work. Yeah, a few of the neighbour's cats have bells, but they only ring when the cat is running, not when its creeping up on a bird. |
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