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Searching for travertine style ceramic tiles I am finding lots of sites
which require you to sign up/log in or continue in chrome before
allowing further progress.

I know I can just sign up but this goes against my efforts to keep a low
web profile. Any suggestions?
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On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 09:26:54 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

Searching for travertine style ceramic tiles I am finding lots of sites
which require you to sign up/log in or continue in chrome before
allowing further progress.

I know I can just sign up but this goes against my efforts to keep a low
web profile. Any suggestions?


Use a fake name and email/snailmail address?

I use a yahoo account that enables me to set up aliases to use for
individual sites, communications whatever and that can be dumped after
their usefulness has been completed. They can be created once you have a
yahoo email account.

eg

Your main account address will be (say)

Once this has been created (inculding the password of course) you can the
set up disposable address from within that account. They will have a
'root name' followed by a hyphen and then a disposable element.

eg

to use for tiles
to use for tyres
to use for stove parts
etc
etc

The 'root name' stays contstant but anything you put after the hyphen and
before the @ is the disposable element. All emails to the disposable
address will be seen autmatically in your main inbox unless you want to
be very clever and set up folders and diverts for each disposable address.

Yahoo can also be set up to be read from an email client on your pc (or
other device) to save you repeatedly logging in via the web interface.
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On 03/09/17 09:26, Tim Lamb wrote:
Searching for travertine style ceramic tiles I am finding lots of sites
which require you to sign up/log in or continue in chrome before
allowing further progress.


That's strange. Got a web site address?

"Continue in chrome" kind of suggests a switch from a unknown media or
security context, the sort that may present itself if it's a badly
written website not supported in a not-Chrome compatible website.

Or it could be pesky google advertising ...

I know I can just sign up but this goes against my efforts to keep a low
web profile. Any suggestions?


Try an alternative web browser?

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On 03/09/2017 09:26, Tim Lamb wrote:
Searching for travertine style ceramic tiles I am finding lots of sites
which require you to sign up/log in or continue in chrome before
allowing further progress.

I know I can just sign up but this goes against my efforts to keep a low
web profile. Any suggestions?


An irritation which I share wearing my "working" had, when you just want
to get a product data sheet. To be fair to engineering sites, they do
seem to know not to spam you.

For private use, I usually say "Stuff them them, they can do without my
business".

My real hate is car dealers. I don't buy new cars, but a few years ago I
bought a high spec 2 year old Honda for cash from a main dealer.
Obviously, I want them to have my details for recalls. But in spite of
asking them not to follow up, every year I get "personalised" letters,
emails, and particularly stupid texts that are barely more subtle than
Nigerian emails.

These are almost enough to add Honda to my blacklist, excellent though
the car is. ARE YOU LISTENING HONDA?
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Tim Lamb wrote:

I am finding lots of sites which require you to sign up/log in or
continue in chrome before allowing further progress.

Signing up, e.g. to download a catalogue is a technique to reap sales
prospects, but just to look at a website? Seems more likely to push
potential customers elsewhere ... none of the handful of searches I
tried did that, got an example?



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On 03/09/2017 09:26, Tim Lamb wrote:
Searching for travertine style ceramic tiles I am finding lots of sites
which require you to sign up/log in or continue in chrome before allowing
further progress.

I know I can just sign up but this goes against my efforts to keep a low
web profile. Any suggestions?


An irritation which I share wearing my "working" had, when you just want
to get a product data sheet. To be fair to engineering sites, they do seem
to know not to spam you.

For private use, I usually say "Stuff them them, they can do without my
business".

My real hate is car dealers. I don't buy new cars, but a few years ago I
bought a high spec 2 year old Honda for cash from a main dealer.
Obviously, I want them to have my details for recalls. But in spite of
asking them not to follow up, every year I get "personalised" letters,
emails, and particularly stupid texts that are barely more subtle than
Nigerian emails.

These are almost enough to add Honda to my blacklist, excellent though the
car is. ARE YOU LISTENING HONDA?


I buy new cars, I also have a bin for junk.


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Tim Lamb wrote:

I am finding lots of sites which require you to sign up/log in or
continue in chrome before allowing further progress.

Signing up, e.g. to download a catalogue is a technique to reap sales
prospects, but just to look at a website? Seems more likely to push
potential customers elsewhere ... none of the handful of searches I
tried did that, got an example?


https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/376191375096174019/

Following a *visit page* route from a photo set brought up during a web
search using Firefox.

As Mark says, simply giving a temporary address should work but I'm
happy to give a real address if the site is likely to be useful.

Perhaps it is just Google scraping sign ups.


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Tim Lamb wrote:

Andy Burns writes:

Tim Lamb wrote:

I am finding lots of sites which require you to sign up/log in


got an example?


https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/376191375096174019/


Ah well pinterest, explains it; they do seem to let you scroll a little
further than they used to before flining up their login banner, I just
tend to ignore them when they appear in search results ...
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On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 12:26:26 +0100, Tim Lamb
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Tim Lamb wrote:

I am finding lots of sites which require you to sign up/log in or
continue in chrome before allowing further progress.

Signing up, e.g. to download a catalogue is a technique to reap sales
prospects, but just to look at a website? Seems more likely to push
potential customers elsewhere ... none of the handful of searches I
tried did that, got an example?


https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/376191375096174019/

Following a *visit page* route from a photo set brought up during a web
search using Firefox.

As Mark says, simply giving a temporary address should work but I'm
happy to give a real address if the site is likely to be useful.


You don't need to create a 'temporary' address. You can create a
special address for this purpose, and disable it, only if you start
receiving spam on it. This is what I do. Therefore you continue to
receive emails as long as they are useful.


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On Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:03:46 UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/376191375096174019/

Ah well pinterest, explains it;


Pinterest are rapidly breaking Google image search like some of the spam-shopping sites used to.

-pinterest is one of the more useful switches that can be applied to searches

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On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 03:40:34 -0500, Mark Allread wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 09:26:54 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

Searching for travertine style ceramic tiles I am finding lots of sites
which require you to sign up/log in or continue in chrome before
allowing further progress.

I know I can just sign up but this goes against my efforts to keep a
low web profile. Any suggestions?


Use a fake name and email/snailmail address?

I use a yahoo account that enables me to set up aliases to use for
individual sites, communications whatever and that can be dumped after
their usefulness has been completed.


I do that, but on my own mail server. I did once get an objection from a
society who thought I was pretending to be them, but they were very nice
once I explained it.



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Andy Burns wrote:
Ah well pinterest, explains it; they do seem to let you scroll a little
further than they used to before flining up their login banner, I just
tend to ignore them when they appear in search results ...


Pinterest are mostly a waste of space, however for the kinds of sites that
pop up a 'login now' box that greys out the content behind and stops it
scrolling (but is still there), you can go into 'developer tools' and
disable it.

In Chrome you right click on the grey background and go 'inspect'. This
will highlight the div in the source. Right click it and go 'Delete
element'. This makes the login box and grey background disappear, and the
page now scrolls properly.

Firefox has similar tools. You may have to try randomly deleting other bits
of the page until you hit upon the right one.

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Tim Lamb wrote:
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Tim Lamb wrote:

I am finding lots of sites which require you to sign up/log in or
continue in chrome before allowing further progress.

Signing up, e.g. to download a catalogue is a technique to reap sales
prospects, but just to look at a website? Seems more likely to push
potential customers elsewhere ... none of the handful of searches I
tried did that, got an example?


https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/376191375096174019/

Following a *visit page* route from a photo set brought up during a web
search using Firefox.

As Mark says, simply giving a temporary address should work but I'm
happy to give a real address if the site is likely to be useful.

Perhaps it is just Google scraping sign ups.


I get tons of crap from pinterest, I do not know how I caught it .
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Besides as we all know, Yahoos online address book is a bout as secure as a
cardboard safe.


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On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 09:26:54 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

Searching for travertine style ceramic tiles I am finding lots of sites
which require you to sign up/log in or continue in chrome before
allowing further progress.

I know I can just sign up but this goes against my efforts to keep a low
web profile. Any suggestions?


Use a fake name and email/snailmail address?

I use a yahoo account that enables me to set up aliases to use for
individual sites, communications whatever and that can be dumped after
their usefulness has been completed. They can be created once you have a
yahoo email account.

eg

Your main account address will be (say)


Once this has been created (inculding the password of course) you can the
set up disposable address from within that account. They will have a
'root name' followed by a hyphen and then a disposable element.

eg

to use for tiles
to use for tyres
to use for stove parts
etc
etc

The 'root name' stays contstant but anything you put after the hyphen and
before the @ is the disposable element. All emails to the disposable
address will be seen autmatically in your main inbox unless you want to
be very clever and set up folders and diverts for each disposable address.

Yahoo can also be set up to be read from an email client on your pc (or
other device) to save you repeatedly logging in via the web interface.



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Yes private web browsing in Firefox and fit a decent ad blocker. If they
actually won't let you look around without giving your details, I'd be very
suspicious. You can after all go into a high street store and look around
without giving all your details to some pillock on the door.
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On 03/09/17 09:26, Tim Lamb wrote:
Searching for travertine style ceramic tiles I am finding lots of sites
which require you to sign up/log in or continue in chrome before allowing
further progress.


That's strange. Got a web site address?

"Continue in chrome" kind of suggests a switch from a unknown media or
security context, the sort that may present itself if it's a badly written
website not supported in a not-Chrome compatible website.

Or it could be pesky google advertising ...

I know I can just sign up but this goes against my efforts to keep a low
web profile. Any suggestions?


Try an alternative web browser?

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Andy Burns wrote:
Ah well pinterest, explains it; they do seem to let you scroll a little
further than they used to before flining up their login banner, I just
tend to ignore them when they appear in search results ...


Pinterest are mostly a waste of space, however for the kinds of sites that
pop up a 'login now' box that greys out the content behind and stops it
scrolling (but is still there), you can go into 'developer tools' and
disable it.

In Chrome you right click on the grey background and go 'inspect'. This
will highlight the div in the source. Right click it and go 'Delete
element'. This makes the login box and grey background disappear, and the
page now scrolls properly.

Firefox has similar tools. You may have to try randomly deleting other bits
of the page until you hit upon the right one.


Interesting Theo. Stretching my capabilities a bit but avoiding Crome
seems a worthwhile objective:-)

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On 03/09/2017 12:26, Tim Lamb wrote:
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Tim Lamb wrote:

I am finding lots of sites which require you to sign up/log in or
continue in chrome before allowing further progress.

Signing up, e.g. to download a catalogue is a technique to reap sales
prospects, but just to look at a website? Seems more likely to push
potential customers elsewhere ... none of the handful of searches I
tried did that, got an example?


https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/376191375096174019/


Pinterest seem to be a law unto themselves. In the end I gave them a
fake address using an address on *their* domain! Seemed to keep it happy ;-)


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On 04/09/2017 00:48, Theo wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
Ah well pinterest, explains it; they do seem to let you scroll a little
further than they used to before flining up their login banner, I just
tend to ignore them when they appear in search results ...


Pinterest are mostly a waste of space, however for the kinds of sites that
pop up a 'login now' box that greys out the content behind and stops it
scrolling (but is still there), you can go into 'developer tools' and
disable it.

In Chrome you right click on the grey background and go 'inspect'. This
will highlight the div in the source. Right click it and go 'Delete
element'. This makes the login box and grey background disappear, and the
page now scrolls properly.

Firefox has similar tools. You may have to try randomly deleting other bits
of the page until you hit upon the right one.


+1

I find that technique works on lots of sites that pop up something in
front of what you want to read, and dim the background.


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On 03/09/2017 13:34, Mark wrote:
On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 12:26:26 +0100, Tim Lamb
wrote:

In message , Andy Burns
writes
Tim Lamb wrote:

I am finding lots of sites which require you to sign up/log in or
continue in chrome before allowing further progress.
Signing up, e.g. to download a catalogue is a technique to reap sales
prospects, but just to look at a website? Seems more likely to push
potential customers elsewhere ... none of the handful of searches I
tried did that, got an example?


https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/376191375096174019/

Following a *visit page* route from a photo set brought up during a web
search using Firefox.

As Mark says, simply giving a temporary address should work but I'm
happy to give a real address if the site is likely to be useful.


You don't need to create a 'temporary' address. You can create a
special address for this purpose, and disable it, only if you start
receiving spam on it. This is what I do. Therefore you continue to
receive emails as long as they are useful.


In cases where site don't need to confirm the email address actually
works, I find giving them something like can
work well - that way they will receive their own spam rather than you.


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On 04/09/2017 10:36, John Rumm wrote:
On 03/09/2017 13:34, Mark wrote:
On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 12:26:26 +0100, Tim Lamb
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In message , Andy Burns
writes
Tim Lamb wrote:

I am finding lots of sites which require you to sign up/log in or
continue in chrome before allowing further progress.
Signing up, e.g. to download a catalogue is a technique to reap sales
prospects, but just to look at a website?* Seems more likely to push
potential customers elsewhere ... none of the handful of searches I
tried did that, got an example?

https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/376191375096174019/

Following a *visit page* route from a photo set brought up during a web
search using Firefox.

As Mark says, simply giving a temporary address should work but I'm
happy to give a real address if the site is likely to be useful.


You don't need to create a 'temporary' address.* You can create a
special address for this purpose, and disable it, only if you start
receiving spam on it.* This is what I do.* Therefore you continue to
receive emails as long as they are useful.


In cases where site don't need to confirm the email address actually
works, I find giving them something like can
work well - that way they will receive their own spam rather than you.


I like it. Recursion: See Recursion.
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