Sorry about the disco lights they are from previous owners.
The walls as you can see from all the indents are in a pretty bad state,
I then think what they have done is paper over with liner paper and then
paint to try and disguise it but hasnt worked. Admittedly its no to bad
in normal daylight.
Several rooms are much the same, I cant afford to get the rooms skimmed
and my own attempts at skimming fall well short. So looking for my best
DIY options.

Any thoughts?

http://imgur.com/a/HuLVG

ss wrote:

Several rooms are much the same, I cant afford to get the rooms skimmed
and my own attempts at skimming fall well short. So looking for my best
DIY options.

Strip the lining paper, replace any sections of plasterboard that need
it, remove the machine-gunning of rawlplugs, rake out anything loose,
undercut a sharp edge in the face of the plasterboard, use a wide taping
knife to "bridge" to nearby level surface, fill (ready-mixed joint
filler is good for buying as a bulk filler and sands very fine) and sand
it down ... expect lots of dust.

On 05/08/2017 20:55, ss wrote:
Sorry about the disco lights they are from previous owners.
The walls as you can see from all the indents are in a pretty bad state,
I then think what they have done is paper over with liner paper and then
paint to try and disguise it but hasnt worked. Admittedly its no to bad
in normal daylight.
Several rooms are much the same, I cant afford to get the rooms skimmed
and my own attempts at skimming fall well short. So looking for my best
DIY options.

Any thoughts?

http://imgur.com/a/HuLVG





Even thinking about attempting to skim brings me out in a cold sweat.
Your choices a

1. Super-heavy lining paper (plus filling/sanding the worst bits ).
2. The dreaded wood chip - does anyone use that any more?
3. Get counselling, so you can live with it as it is.
4. Save up for a plasterer.

On 05/08/2017 21:39, Andy Burns wrote:
ss wrote:

Several rooms are much the same, I cant afford to get the rooms skimmed
and my own attempts at skimming fall well short. So looking for my best
DIY options.

Strip the lining paper, replace any sections of plasterboard that need
it, remove the machine-gunning of rawlplugs, rake out anything loose,
undercut a sharp edge in the face of the plasterboard, use a wide taping
knife to "bridge" to nearby level surface, fill (ready-mixed joint
filler is good for buying as a bulk filler and sands very fine) and sand
it down ... expect lots of dust.


I too noticed the line of wall plugs that hadn't been removed and are
sitting proud.

The bumps dips are from fixtures/fittings/shelves that have just been
removed and the "holes" not filled before putting up the lining paper.
What may be found is that in the past the walls have been painted with
the fixtures and shelves in place so no paint gets behind these objects.
When they have been removed the dips are the thickness of the paint (and
possibly a paint ridge around the removed object.

I agree the starting point is to remove the lining paper. Just fill
dips with a fine pre-mixed filler and sand down. If you don't go too mad
with the filler hand sanding using a large sanding block will minimise
the dust. Hand sanding tends to allow the dust to directly fall to the
floor where it and be easily vacuumed up.

To remove wall plugs I just screw a screw into them but just enough so
it bites hard and then I use a pair of water-pump pliers to pull the
screw straight out, still attached to the plug. The water-pump pliers
can be used to lever out the screws/plugs by using a piece of scrap wood
against the wall to form a fulcrum point, and protect the surface of the
wall. With these types of holes I would paint them with PVA/water mix
to seal the edges before filling (or inject them with the same mix using
a syringe - available cheaply on Ebay for filling ink cartidges). With
wall plug size holes you may want to fill in a two stage process. Fill
the hole to be flush with the wall surface but it may shrink back by
0.5mm as it dries so then just fill a second time.

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On 05/08/2017 22:08, GB wrote:


2. The dreaded wood chip - does anyone use that any more?

I still have wood chip in my house. It tended to be quite thin and was
good at hiding crazed plaster surfaces in Victorian type lath and
plaster walls. It didn't/doesn't hide the bumps and dips that the OP is
complaining about.




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On 8/5/2017 10:49 PM, alan_m wrote:
On 05/08/2017 22:08, GB wrote:


2. The dreaded wood chip - does anyone use that any more?

I still have wood chip in my house. It tended to be quite thin and was
good at hiding crazed plaster surfaces in Victorian type lath and
plaster walls. It didn't/doesn't hide the bumps and dips that the OP is
complaining about.


I have woodchip too, on an old lath and plaster ceiling in my office.
IMHO it doesn't look too bad, but these days I wouldn't normally put it
on a wall for fear of the style police.

On Sat, 05 Aug 2017 22:17:29 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:

Several rooms are much the same, I cant afford to get the rooms skimmed
and my own attempts at skimming fall well short. So looking for my best
DIY options.

Any thoughts?

http://imgur.com/a/HuLVG

Sand it, polyfilla it, paint it.

Shut it and beat it, Birdbrain!

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MID:

On Saturday, 5 August 2017 20:56:00 UTC+1, ss wrote:
Sorry about the disco lights they are from previous owners.
The walls as you can see from all the indents are in a pretty bad state,
I then think what they have done is paper over with liner paper and then
paint to try and disguise it but hasnt worked. Admittedly its no to bad
in normal daylight.
Several rooms are much the same, I cant afford to get the rooms skimmed
and my own attempts at skimming fall well short. So looking for my best
DIY options.

Any thoughts?

http://imgur.com/a/HuLVG

Dips are fixed by filling, very shallow ones with fine surface filler. Paper is not sandable, ensure when filling than not a single grain is left proud & don't sand.

High points can be cut back then filled.

Sometimes loose nails are a gotcha with PB, remove & screw it in place.


NT

"ss" wrote in message
...
Sorry about the disco lights they are from previous owners.
The walls as you can see from all the indents are in a pretty bad state, I
then think what they have done is paper over with liner paper and then
paint to try and disguise it but hasnt worked. Admittedly its no to bad in
normal daylight.
Several rooms are much the same, I cant afford to get the rooms skimmed
and my own attempts at skimming fall well short. So looking for my best
DIY options.

Any thoughts?

Get off your arse and do some extra paid work so you can afford to get it
skimmed.

http://imgur.com/a/HuLVG

On 05/08/2017 23:04, newshound wrote:
On 8/5/2017 10:49 PM, alan_m wrote:
On 05/08/2017 22:08, GB wrote:


2. The dreaded wood chip - does anyone use that any more?

I still have wood chip in my house. It tended to be quite thin and
was good at hiding crazed plaster surfaces in Victorian type lath and
plaster walls. It didn't/doesn't hide the bumps and dips that the OP
is complaining about.


I have woodchip too, on an old lath and plaster ceiling in my office.
IMHO it doesn't look too bad, but these days I wouldn't normally put it
on a wall for fear of the style police.


I agree it won't hide the OP's bumps and dips, but it lessens the visual
impact of them (IMHO), compared to a smooth finish.

In message , GB
writes
On 05/08/2017 20:55, ss wrote:
Sorry about the disco lights they are from previous owners.
The walls as you can see from all the indents are in a pretty bad
state, I then think what they have done is paper over with liner
paper and then paint to try and disguise it but hasnt worked.
Admittedly its no to bad in normal daylight.
Several rooms are much the same, I cant afford to get the rooms
skimmed and my own attempts at skimming fall well short. So looking
for my best DIY options.
Any thoughts?
http://imgur.com/a/HuLVG



Even thinking about attempting to skim brings me out in a cold sweat.
Your choices a

1. Super-heavy lining paper (plus filling/sanding the worst bits ).
2. The dreaded wood chip - does anyone use that any more?
3. Get counselling, so you can live with it as it is.
4. Save up for a plasterer.

If the job is ready, I have found skimming not hugely expensive. This
site seems fairly accurate.
http://www.whatprice.co.uk/costs/pla....php#axzz4oxpi
Pr7c






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On 06/08/2017 09:39, GB wrote:
On 05/08/2017 23:04, newshound wrote:
On 8/5/2017 10:49 PM, alan_m wrote:
On 05/08/2017 22:08, GB wrote:


2. The dreaded wood chip - does anyone use that any more?

I still have wood chip in my house. It tended to be quite thin and
was good at hiding crazed plaster surfaces in Victorian type lath and
plaster walls. It didn't/doesn't hide the bumps and dips that the OP
is complaining about.


I have woodchip too, on an old lath and plaster ceiling in my office.
IMHO it doesn't look too bad, but these days I wouldn't normally put
it on a wall for fear of the style police.


I agree it won't hide the OP's bumps and dips, but it lessens the visual
impact of them (IMHO), compared to a smooth finish.

I think blown vinyls are deeper and even more effective than woodchip.

SteveW

On 06/08/2017 20:59, Steve Walker wrote:
On 06/08/2017 09:39, GB wrote:
On 05/08/2017 23:04, newshound wrote:
On 8/5/2017 10:49 PM, alan_m wrote:
On 05/08/2017 22:08, GB wrote:


2. The dreaded wood chip - does anyone use that any more?

I still have wood chip in my house. It tended to be quite thin and
was good at hiding crazed plaster surfaces in Victorian type lath
and plaster walls. It didn't/doesn't hide the bumps and dips that
the OP is complaining about.


I have woodchip too, on an old lath and plaster ceiling in my office.
IMHO it doesn't look too bad, but these days I wouldn't normally put
it on a wall for fear of the style police.


I agree it won't hide the OP's bumps and dips, but it lessens the
visual impact of them (IMHO), compared to a smooth finish.

I like woodchip.



I think blown vinyls are deeper and even more effective than woodchip.

Horrible stuff, not least the texture. It isn't easy to put up either.

Having said that, some people hate woodchip- the world would be boring
if everyone liked the same things.

On 06/08/2017 21:33, Brian Reay wrote:

I like woodchip.

It's not that bad with a few coats of paint to soften out the lumps.


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On 8/6/2017 9:33 PM, Brian Reay wrote:
On 06/08/2017 20:59, Steve Walker wrote:
On 06/08/2017 09:39, GB wrote:
On 05/08/2017 23:04, newshound wrote:
On 8/5/2017 10:49 PM, alan_m wrote:
On 05/08/2017 22:08, GB wrote:


2. The dreaded wood chip - does anyone use that any more?

I still have wood chip in my house. It tended to be quite thin and
was good at hiding crazed plaster surfaces in Victorian type lath
and plaster walls. It didn't/doesn't hide the bumps and dips that
the OP is complaining about.


I have woodchip too, on an old lath and plaster ceiling in my office.
IMHO it doesn't look too bad, but these days I wouldn't normally put
it on a wall for fear of the style police.


I agree it won't hide the OP's bumps and dips, but it lessens the
visual impact of them (IMHO), compared to a smooth finish.

I like woodchip.



I think blown vinyls are deeper and even more effective than woodchip.

Horrible stuff, not least the texture. It isn't easy to put up either.

Having said that, some people hate woodchip- the world would be boring
if everyone liked the same things.

I don't like blown vinyls at all, but I do quite like anaglypta in
suitable Victorian and Edwardian settings.

On 05/08/2017 22:39, alan_m wrote:

To remove wall plugs I just screw a screw into them but just enough so
it bites hard and then I use a pair of water-pump pliers to pull the
screw straight out, still attached to the plug. The water-pump pliers
can be used to lever out the screws/plugs by using a piece of scrap wood
against the wall to form a fulcrum point, and protect the surface of the
wall.

In many cases its easier to stick a screw into the plug and just hammer
it a little bit deeper into the wall, remove the screw and then fill
over it. Saves ripping out the surface or having to prise against the
wall etc. Easier to fill as well.



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