I just bought a flat to rent out and the gas hob has a couple of problems
Overall the hob is very clean and not obviously abused.
The large burner wont light by itself but gentle blowing at the burner
and it lights ok

The smallest burner appears to have no gas coming out - presumably
blocked somewhere.

Are these common/easy to fix problems?

TIA
Bob

Bob Minchin has brought this to us :
I just bought a flat to rent out and the gas hob has a couple of problems
Overall the hob is very clean and not obviously abused.
The large burner wont light by itself but gentle blowing at the burner and it
lights ok

The smallest burner appears to have no gas coming out - presumably blocked
somewhere.

Are these common/easy to fix problems?

Yes, usually!

No gas is likely the jet blocked with grease. The failing to light
might as simple as the spark gap distorted, the gas port at that
location obstructed.

Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Bob Minchin has brought this to us :
I just bought a flat to rent out and the gas hob has a couple of problems
Overall the hob is very clean and not obviously abused.
The large burner wont light by itself but gentle blowing at the burner
and it lights ok

The smallest burner appears to have no gas coming out - presumably
blocked somewhere.

Are these common/easy to fix problems?

Yes, usually!

No gas is likely the jet blocked with grease. The failing to light might
as simple as the spark gap distorted, the gas port at that location
obstructed.
Thanks Harry,
I've found a youtube video showing the small hole allowing gas to get
near to the spark gap so I'll check that.

My only experience of gas burner goes back to one piece cast iron burner
heads with a single metering jet at the other end from the flame and an
open adjustable air gap to control the mixture. Almost impossible for
the jet to block.
I'm guessing that modern ones work differently if grease can block a
jet. I'm going back tomorrow armed with tools and tooth picks to see
what I can find.

Bob

Bob Minchin submitted this idea :
My only experience of gas burner goes back to one piece cast iron burner
heads with a single metering jet at the other end from the flame and an open
adjustable air gap to control the mixture. Almost impossible for the jet to
block.
I'm guessing that modern ones work differently if grease can block a jet.
I'm going back tomorrow armed with tools and tooth picks to see what I can
find.

They are quite similar, but usually the air is none adjustable. It
might be easier to unscrew the jet and pop it in boiling soapy water,
then rinse it, if it proves to be blocked with grease.

On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 21:38:47 +0100, Bob Minchin wrote:

My only experience of gas burner goes back to one piece cast iron burner
heads with a single metering jet at the other end from the flame and an
open adjustable air gap to control the mixture.

We had a cooker with four similar cast iron burners the air inlet was
none adjustable mind. Damn thing frightened the life out of me one
morning when I was about 7 or 8. Decided that I'd make Mum and Dad a
morning cup of tea, lit the gas (matches none of this automatic
electrical nonsense) and it backfired making a helluva roar withe the
gas burning from the jet and down the tube to the ring. Rather abrupt
awakening of Mum and Dad, who never got a cup of tea.

I'm guessing that modern ones work differently if grease can block a
jet.

I don't think so the tube from the jet and air inlet makes sure they
are well mixed before the flame spreader and burning. Fairly sure the
jet is part of the valve rather than the burner. It is on our backup
two ring camping gas hob. Mind you how well it's protected from
grease or condesating grease is another matter.

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Cheers
Dave.

But do make sure that there are smoke and co 2 alarms in the flat as its a
legal requirement these days for rented out properties.
Brian

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"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
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Bob Minchin has brought this to us :
I just bought a flat to rent out and the gas hob has a couple of problems
Overall the hob is very clean and not obviously abused.
The large burner wont light by itself but gentle blowing at the burner
and it lights ok

The smallest burner appears to have no gas coming out - presumably
blocked somewhere.

Are these common/easy to fix problems?

Yes, usually!

No gas is likely the jet blocked with grease. The failing to light might
as simple as the spark gap distorted, the gas port at that location
obstructed.

Brian Gaff wrote:
But do make sure that there are smoke and co 2 alarms in the flat as its a
legal requirement these days for rented out properties.
Brian

Not so apparently Brian.
This is a flat within a building. The landlord of the building should
have a smoke alarm on each floor. (logically these are only any use in
the communal areas.
Carbon Monoxide (not Dioxide) alarms are only needed where solid fuel is
in use.

In article ,
Bob Minchin wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:
But do make sure that there are smoke and co 2 alarms in the flat as
its a legal requirement these days for rented out properties.
Brian

Not so apparently Brian.
This is a flat within a building. The landlord of the building should
have a smoke alarm on each floor. (logically these are only any use in
the communal areas.
Carbon Monoxide (not Dioxide) alarms are only needed where solid fuel is
in use.

and unsealed gas applianced.

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charles wrote:
In article ,
Bob Minchin wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:
But do make sure that there are smoke and co 2 alarms in the flat as
its a legal requirement these days for rented out properties.
Brian

Not so apparently Brian.
This is a flat within a building. The landlord of the building should
have a smoke alarm on each floor. (logically these are only any use in
the communal areas.
Carbon Monoxide (not Dioxide) alarms are only needed where solid fuel is
in use.

and unsealed gas applianced.

Ah! I did not see that twist when I looked. I have a gas hob so
presumably I need a CO alarm within the flat or in the kitchen itself?
Do you have a reference please?

TIA
Bob

On 04/08/2017 20:25, Bob Minchin wrote:
I just bought a flat to rent out and the gas hob has a couple of problems
Overall the hob is very clean and not obviously abused.
The large burner wont light by itself but gentle blowing at the burner
and it lights ok

The smallest burner appears to have no gas coming out - presumably
blocked somewhere.

Are these common/easy to fix problems?

TIA
Bob


On my cheap hob the burners just lift of. The holes/grooves in the top
parts are likely to be partially or fully blocked with burnt on crud
that has spilt over from a pan on the hob . Soak them in hot soapy
water and then clean out the grooves/holes with a wire brush (I use my
barbecue brush) or a Billo pad. I've found in the past that even a small
amount of crud causes the problem of having to blow the flame around to
light it.

If the burner just lifts off you may/will find a hole in the base of the
hop from which the gas emerges. Use a bit of wire (fuse wire) to clear a
blocked hole.

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alan_m wrote:
On 04/08/2017 20:25, Bob Minchin wrote:
I just bought a flat to rent out and the gas hob has a couple of problems
Overall the hob is very clean and not obviously abused.
The large burner wont light by itself but gentle blowing at the burner
and it lights ok

The smallest burner appears to have no gas coming out - presumably
blocked somewhere.

Are these common/easy to fix problems?

TIA
Bob


On my cheap hob the burners just lift of. The holes/grooves in the top
parts are likely to be partially or fully blocked with burnt on crud
that has spilt over from a pan on the hob . Soak them in hot soapy
water and then clean out the grooves/holes with a wire brush (I use my
barbecue brush) or a Billo pad. I've found in the past that even a small
amount of crud causes the problem of having to blow the flame around to
light it.

If the burner just lifts off you may/will find a hole in the base of the
hop from which the gas emerges. Use a bit of wire (fuse wire) to clear a
blocked hole.

Thanks Alan,
I will go back tomorrow more suitably equipped to investigate. Sounds
like it should be fixable from above.

On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 9:47:23 PM UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 04/08/2017 20:25, Bob Minchin wrote:
I just bought a flat to rent out and the gas hob has a couple of problems
Overall the hob is very clean and not obviously abused.
The large burner wont light by itself but gentle blowing at the burner
and it lights ok

The smallest burner appears to have no gas coming out - presumably
blocked somewhere.

Are these common/easy to fix problems?

TIA
Bob


On my cheap hob the burners just lift of. The holes/grooves in the top
parts are likely to be partially or fully blocked with burnt on crud
that has spilt over from a pan on the hob . Soak them in hot soapy
water and then clean out the grooves/holes with a wire brush (I use my
barbecue brush) or a Billo pad. I've found in the past that even a small
amount of crud causes the problem of having to blow the flame around to
light it.

Well my hob never lights directly after washing the burners and while they're still a bit damp. Have to use a lighter initially, but after burning for 5 mins to heat and dry out they then light OK. Never understood it.