See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

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On 18/07/2017 10:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

I find it hard to believe that a person who claims knowledge of such a
vast range of subjects can have failed to see - or find online in a
matter of minutes - ways a person under 18 can buy knives online so I
can only think you were casting around for an excuse to make yet another
OT, political, gratuitously insulting, and boring post.




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On 18-Jul-17 10:40 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?...

An 11 year old can have a bank account with a debit card that can be
used online.


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On 18/07/2017 10:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It used to be only "adult" things that children couldn't buy. Now it's
things mainly used by children (knives and glue).

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On 18/07/2017 10:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

using your stolen credit card details!

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

nothing new there then...


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"Robin" wrote in message
...
On 18/07/2017 10:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

I find it hard to believe that a person who claims knowledge of such a
vast range of subjects can have failed to see - or find online in a matter
of minutes - ways a person under 18 can buy knives online so I can only
think you were casting around for an excuse to make yet another OT,
political, gratuitously insulting, and boring post.

Absolutely correct, any excuse to have a bang at the Tories.
The bloke is a complete bigot.
If the Tories found a way to make him live to 200 (heaven forbid) he'd find
a gripe, any gripe.

On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 11:49:48 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/07/2017 10:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It used to be only "adult" things that children couldn't buy. Now it's
things mainly used by children (knives and glue).

Acid too it seems. I remmeber buying acid from bearmans in leytonstone in the early 70s for my chemisty set.

On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

You are, of course, aware that in some cases a "child" is someone under 18.

So under certain legislation you can have sex, get married, join the
forces and kill people, but you can't photograph each other in the nude.

More knee jerk legislation to show that the government is "doing
something" with no real provision for enforcement.

Apart from blaming 3rd parties after the fact.

Hmph!


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Huge wrote:
Spot on. Dave's jerking knee bigotry ("Tories Bad, Labour Good") is,
as you say, OT, gratuitously insulting, boring and generally
wrong. And no "OT" in the Subject so we can killfile them. (Dave's
already killfiled here).

So just why are you wasting your time replying to such a topic if you
consider it OT?

Apart from never missing the opportunity to make a political point, of
course.

But it is good to see just how easily the right wingers on here can be
baited. They don't bother answering a valid point - just jump to defend
their beliefs.

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On 18/07/2017 14:14, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Huge wrote:
Spot on. Dave's jerking knee bigotry ("Tories Bad, Labour Good") is,
as you say, OT, gratuitously insulting, boring and generally
wrong. And no "OT" in the Subject so we can killfile them. (Dave's
already killfiled here).

So just why are you wasting your time replying to such a topic if you
consider it OT?

Apart from never missing the opportunity to make a political point, of
course.

But it is good to see just how easily the right wingers on here can be
baited. They don't bother answering a valid point - just jump to defend
their beliefs.

Who defended what beliefs?

And I still don't see why you didn't just do some research - eg read The
Guardian on the subject - before displaying your ignorance as well as
your prejudice.

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-bailey-gwynne

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ne-knife-sales

So do you reckon that Scottish Ministers were guilty of knee jerk
reactions? Or are you willing to admit you went off half-cocked?

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In article ,
Robin wrote:
On 18/07/2017 14:14, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Huge wrote:
Spot on. Dave's jerking knee bigotry ("Tories Bad, Labour Good") is,
as you say, OT, gratuitously insulting, boring and generally
wrong. And no "OT" in the Subject so we can killfile them. (Dave's
already killfiled here).

So just why are you wasting your time replying to such a topic if you
consider it OT?

Apart from never missing the opportunity to make a political point, of
course.

But it is good to see just how easily the right wingers on here can be
baited. They don't bother answering a valid point - just jump to defend
their beliefs.

Who defended what beliefs?

And I still don't see why you didn't just do some research - eg read The
Guardian on the subject - before displaying your ignorance as well as
your prejudice.

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-bailey-gwynne

Ah - right. So some extra poorly thought out legislation will prevent a
company doing something which was illegal before anyway?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ne-knife-sales

So do you reckon that Scottish Ministers were guilty of knee jerk
reactions? Or are you willing to admit you went off half-cocked?

Oddly, I'm one of those who think legislation which isn't/ can't be
enforced is worse than no legislation at all.

But you carry on in your ivory tower. Where any law works perfectly.

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On 18/07/2017 15:30, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
snip

Oddly, I'm one of those who think legislation which isn't/ can't be
enforced is worse than no legislation at all.

Good for you. But

(a) how do you know the legislation will fall into that category? and


(b) did you criticise in the same way the many provisions introduced by
the Blair/Brown administrations which fell into to that camp? It was
long a part of real politics but they took the art to new heights.


But you carry on in your ivory tower. Where any law works perfectly.


That's another assertion you make without offering any evidence.

I have in fact no opinion on the effectiveness of the proposed
legislation because I have not seen the details of what is proposed nor
the evidence gathered in the work over recent years. My starting
position is one of low expectations because legislation to change
behaviour - especially criminal behaviour - is notoriously difficult.
But I also don't doubt that the Opposition and minority parties would
make the government's life hell if they did nothing on the matter.

And I am - as so often - puzzled by your position. You start off not
even knowing that children can in practice buy knives online. So you
were patently also ignorant of the pressure for changes over several
years. Yet you still harp on about knee-jerk reactions and poorly
thought out legislation.


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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

Its a bit late as they're all moving to acid and stuff
like drain cleaner in London nowadays. Just throwing it
in peopales faces.
Getting caught with a knife in a stop and search - or a
knife suddenly dropping to the ground and its bang to
rights and an immediate custodial.

At present there are no regs regarding the sale of acids
or other potenially noxious stuff such as bleach to yoofs

Acid can be carried around in lemonade bottles.
Although carrying it in anything other than the
original container is an offence you need to
catch them first


michael adams

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In article ,
Huge wrote:
On 2017-07-18, Robin wrote:
On 18/07/2017 15:30, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

[27 lines snipped]

And I am - as so often - puzzled by your position.

It's really simple. If the Tories are for it then Dave is against it,
even if it's something Labour previously proposed.

How wrong you are - but nothing new there. I'm against half hearted
legislation that I don't think will work. 'The something must be seen to
being done' type.

He's just like the
retarded Labour politician on WatO criticising the Tories for doing
something (increasing education spending) Labour are for. Lefties
see the world in black and white; if you're not for them, you're
against them. It's one of the defining characteristics of the Left,
along with hypocrisy, authoritarianism and a pathological inability
to understand simple economics.

Crikey. Have we got a left government at the moment? You've just described
the current one perfectly. But you head in the sand Tories can't even see
that.

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In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:

It's really simple. If the Tories are for it then Dave is against it,
even if it's something Labour previously proposed. He's just like the
retarded Labour politician on WatO criticising the Tories for doing
something (increasing education spending) Labour are for. Lefties
see the world in black and white; if you're not for them, you're
against them. It's one of the defining characteristics of the Left,
along with hypocrisy, authoritarianism and a pathological inability
to understand simple economics.

*Applause*

Very good - you two make a good pair.

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Dave Plowman wrote:

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

I think more or less anyone can have a debit card

In article ,
Robin wrote:
(b) did you criticise in the same way the many provisions introduced by
the Blair/Brown administrations which fell into to that camp? It was
long a part of real politics but they took the art to new heights.

Very likely. But in case it's escaped your notice, they've been out of
office for a very long time.

What is it about you right wingers that makes you continually want to
excuse a failing administration? And never actually discuss the point in
question?

But a typical Brexiteer. 'Let's just give it a try and hope it works'

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"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 11:49:48 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/07/2017 10:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line
collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It used to be only "adult" things that children couldn't buy. Now it's
things mainly used by children (knives and glue).

Acid too it seems. I remmeber buying acid from bearmans
in leytonstone in the early 70s for my chemisty set.

You can still get all but the most obscure acids any time you like.

On 18/07/17 16:25, Huge wrote:
On 2017-07-18, Robin wrote:
On 18/07/2017 15:30, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

[27 lines snipped]

And I am - as so often - puzzled by your position.

It's really simple. If the Tories are for it then Dave is against it,
even if it's something Labour previously proposed. He's just like the
retarded Labour politician on WatO criticising the Tories for doing
something (increasing education spending) Labour are for. Lefties
see the world in black and white; if you're not for them, you're
against them. It's one of the defining characteristics of the Left,
along with hypocrisy, authoritarianism and a pathological inability
to understand simple economics.

Its even more simple. Daves viewpoint is funadmentalist, just as a
Christian fundmaentalist believes that the only truth in the world is in
the One Book, so Dave believes that the only truth in the world is
dipsensed via his Marxist perspective.

Any glaring inconsistencies are simply errors of interpretation.

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On 18-Jul-17 1:06 PM, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 11:49:48 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/07/2017 10:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It used to be only "adult" things that children couldn't buy. Now it's
things mainly used by children (knives and glue).

Acid too it seems. I remmeber buying acid from bearmans in leytonstone in the early 70s for my chemisty set.

I was mildly surprised to be able to buy 12 x 500ml bottles of spirit of
salts online a few months ago without any checks or even it coming by
specialist courier..


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On 18/07/2017 16:50, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Robin wrote:

You snipped and didn't answer:

"(a) how do you know the legislation will fall into that category
[isn't/ can't be enforced]?

Too difficult for you?

(b) did you criticise in the same way the many provisions introduced by
the Blair/Brown administrations which fell into to that camp? It was
long a part of real politics but they took the art to new heights.

Very likely. But in case it's escaped your notice, they've been out of
office for a very long time.

Does that mean you did criticise those provisions or that you didn't?
Or that you can't bring yourself to say? Or you forget?

What is it about you right wingers that makes you continually want to
excuse a failing administration? And never actually discuss the point in
question?

You mean like you continue to duck and dive the issue on which you
opined about at the start of this thread? Care to point me to a single
fact you have given or source you have cited? You accuse me of living in
an ivory tower when all you have done so far is demonstrate your
ignorance of the how minors can pay (often lawfully), of the evidence of
online sales of knives to minors (which goes back to at least 2005), and
of the pros and cons of legislation to try to reduce them. You accuse
me of living in an ivory tower. It seems to me you are the one showing
signs of living somewhat detached from the world of politics and policy
formulation - not to mention reasonable, rational debate.


But a typical Brexiteer. 'Let's just give it a try and hope it works'


There you go again. Where's your evidence that I'm a "Brexiteer"?



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It is interesting though, Does this mean if I want to buy a Stanley Knife
and blades they cannot bedelivered in the mail?
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"Robin" wrote in message
...
On 18/07/2017 10:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

I find it hard to believe that a person who claims knowledge of such a
vast range of subjects can have failed to see - or find online in a matter
of minutes - ways a person under 18 can buy knives online so I can only
think you were casting around for an excuse to make yet another OT,
political, gratuitously insulting, and boring post.




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Possibly. But we have yet to see the details. And the requirement to
"collect it in person" may include collecting it from one of the shops
which deal with parcels if there is a person there who is trusted to
check ID.


On 18/07/2017 19:07, Brian Gaff wrote:
It is interesting though, Does this mean if I want to buy a Stanley Knife
and blades they cannot bedelivered in the mail?
Brian



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On 18/07/2017 19:44, Robin wrote:
Possibly. But we have yet to see the details. And the requirement to
"collect it in person" may include collecting it from one of the shops
which deal with parcels if there is a person there who is trusted to
check ID.

That'll be great for someone wanting a knife, blades, whatever else gets
covered when they live way out in the countryside - especially of they
don't drive!

The problem has presumably been caused because the banks decided to
issue debit cards to under 18s - I'm sure you used to have to be 18 to
get one at one time.

Anyway, what stops a child taking a knife, sharpened screwdriver, even
an axe from their parents' garage or house?

SteveW

On 18/07/2017 13:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 11:49:48 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/07/2017 10:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It used to be only "adult" things that children couldn't buy. Now it's
things mainly used by children (knives and glue).

Acid too it seems. I remmeber buying acid from bearmans in leytonstone in the early 70s for my chemisty set.

And methylated spirits for my Mamod traction engine.

SteveW

On 18/07/2017 21:44, Steve Walker wrote:

Anyway, what stops a child taking a knife, sharpened screwdriver, even
an axe from their parents' garage or house?

Nothing.

Aren't most kitchen drawers full of (or partially full of) sharp knives
or have I got an odd kitchen set up?




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On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 21:45:52 +0100, Steve Walker wrote:

On 18/07/2017 13:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 11:49:48 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/07/2017 10:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line
collected in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It used to be only "adult" things that children couldn't buy. Now it's
things mainly used by children (knives and glue).

Acid too it seems. I remmeber buying acid from bearmans in leytonstone
in the early 70s for my chemisty set.

And methylated spirits for my Mamod traction engine.

I have methylated spirits.

And a Mamod traction engine.


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On 18/07/17 22:12, Bob Eager wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 21:45:52 +0100, Steve Walker wrote:

On 18/07/2017 13:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 11:49:48 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/07/2017 10:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line
collected in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It used to be only "adult" things that children couldn't buy. Now it's
things mainly used by children (knives and glue).

Acid too it seems. I remmeber buying acid from bearmans in leytonstone
in the early 70s for my chemisty set.

And methylated spirits for my Mamod traction engine.

I have methylated spirits.

And a Mamod traction engine.


can buy meths in 5 litrre cans easy enough. used in french polishing


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On 18/07/2017 22:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 18/07/17 22:12, Bob Eager wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 21:45:52 +0100, Steve Walker wrote:

On 18/07/2017 13:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 11:49:48 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/07/2017 10:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line
collected in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It used to be only "adult" things that children couldn't buy. Now it's
things mainly used by children (knives and glue).

Acid too it seems. I remmeber buying acid from bearmans in leytonstone
in the early 70s for my chemisty set.

And methylated spirits for my Mamod traction engine.

I have methylated spirits.

And a Mamod traction engine.


can buy meths in 5 litrre cans easy enough. used in french polishing

Yes you can, but I was talking about buying meths as a 9 year-old child
- not a chance these days!

SteveW

On 18/07/17 22:41, Steve Walker wrote:
On 18/07/2017 22:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 18/07/17 22:12, Bob Eager wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 21:45:52 +0100, Steve Walker wrote:

On 18/07/2017 13:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 11:49:48 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/07/2017 10:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line
collected in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It used to be only "adult" things that children couldn't buy. Now
it's
things mainly used by children (knives and glue).

Acid too it seems. I remmeber buying acid from bearmans in leytonstone
in the early 70s for my chemisty set.

And methylated spirits for my Mamod traction engine.

I have methylated spirits.

And a Mamod traction engine.


can buy meths in 5 litrre cans easy enough. used in french polishing

Yes you can, but I was talking about buying meths as a 9 year-old child
- not a chance these days!

Bollox.

https://www.tesco.com/direct/rustins...l/506-9065.prd

Buy it at tescos.

BTW any onlookers pelase tell me I am not suffering halluicinatins and
that that web page does say that its grey in colour and includes
batteries....????

------------------------------------------
Product specifications
Additional Information
Colour
Grey
Power Source
Battery only
Power
Batteries Included
Y
Battery Type
123
Dimensions
Product Height
16.8 Centimetre
Product Width
5.0 Centimetre
Product Depth
4.9 Centimetre
Product Weight
0.23 Kilogram
Material
Material
Plastic
Key Information
Type
Tool
Pack Size
1
Features
Size
1

SteveW


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On 18/07/2017 22:45, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 18/07/17 22:41, Steve Walker wrote:
On 18/07/2017 22:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 18/07/17 22:12, Bob Eager wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 21:45:52 +0100, Steve Walker wrote:

On 18/07/2017 13:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 11:49:48 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/07/2017 10:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line
collected in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It used to be only "adult" things that children couldn't buy. Now
it's
things mainly used by children (knives and glue).

Acid too it seems. I remmeber buying acid from bearmans in
leytonstone
in the early 70s for my chemisty set.

And methylated spirits for my Mamod traction engine.

I have methylated spirits.

And a Mamod traction engine.


can buy meths in 5 litrre cans easy enough. used in french polishing

Yes you can, but I was talking about buying meths as a 9 year-old
child - not a chance these days!

Bollox.

https://www.tesco.com/direct/rustins...l/506-9065.prd

Buy it at tescos.

The references in the previous posts and mine were referring to children
walking in and buying items at the counter that they would not be able
to do so today. No way would Tesco sell a child meths in the shop.

SteveW

On 18/07/2017 23:05, Steve Walker wrote:

The references in the previous posts and mine were referring to children
walking in and buying items at the counter that they would not be able
to do so today. No way would Tesco sell a child meths in the shop.

I think a shop in Scotland might *if* they stocked it: IIRC the
Scottish Parliament repealed the last of the age restrictions there
around 10 years ago. But I have never seen meths in a Tesco store.

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In article ,
Steve Walker wrote:
On 18/07/2017 19:44, Robin wrote:
Possibly. But we have yet to see the details. And the requirement to
"collect it in person" may include collecting it from one of the shops
which deal with parcels if there is a person there who is trusted to
check ID.

That'll be great for someone wanting a knife, blades, whatever else gets
covered when they live way out in the countryside - especially of they
don't drive!

The problem has presumably been caused because the banks decided to
issue debit cards to under 18s - I'm sure you used to have to be 18 to
get one at one time.

That's what I thought too. Obviously, things have changed. So in other
words, there can be no checks age wise on buying absolutely anything
online. I'd have thought that needed sorting rather than just knives.

Anyway, what stops a child taking a knife, sharpened screwdriver, even
an axe from their parents' garage or house?

Quite. Most kitchens have plenty knives capable of being used as a weapon.

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On 18/07/2017 23:35, Robin wrote:
On 18/07/2017 23:05, Steve Walker wrote:

The references in the previous posts and mine were referring to
children walking in and buying items at the counter that they would
not be able to do so today. No way would Tesco sell a child meths in
the shop.

I think a shop in Scotland might *if* they stocked it: IIRC the
Scottish Parliament repealed the last of the age restrictions there
around 10 years ago. But I have never seen meths in a Tesco store.

I'm pretty sure I have seen it, along with turpentine substitute in the
diy/motoring section. Not sure how long ago that was though.

SteveW

In message , Bob Eager
writes
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 21:45:52 +0100, Steve Walker wrote:

I have methylated spirits.

And a Mamod traction engine.

+1

Not to mention a Mamod stationary engine, ditto Bowman.
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Graeme

On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 23:05:23 UTC+1, Steve Walker wrote:
No way would Tesco sell a child meths in the shop.

Poundland age-checked me for a small tin of yacht varnish yesterday.

I wonder if they thought I was going to make some graffiti glossy and water-resistant?

Owain

On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 10:49:29 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Well ****-fer-brains.
Any kid wanting a knife only has to look in his mums kitchen drawer.

On 19/07/17 08:25, wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 23:05:23 UTC+1, Steve Walker wrote:
No way would Tesco sell a child meths in the shop.

Poundland age-checked me for a small tin of yacht varnish yesterday.

I wonder if they thought I was going to make some graffiti glossy and water-resistant?

Owain

sniff yourself silly.



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look exactly the same afterwards."

Billy Connolly

On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 23:35:44 UTC+1, Robin wrote:
On 18/07/2017 23:05, Steve Walker wrote:

The references in the previous posts and mine were referring to children
walking in and buying items at the counter that they would not be able
to do so today. No way would Tesco sell a child meths in the shop.

I think a shop in Scotland might *if* they stocked it: IIRC the
Scottish Parliament repealed the last of the age restrictions there
around 10 years ago. But I have never seen meths in a Tesco store.

That item is not from Tesco, it's sold by a trading partner.


NT

En el artículo , Robin
escribió:

There you go again. Where's your evidence that I'm a "Brexiteer"?

I think Brexit has to be the new Godwin as far as Usenet is concerned.

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