En el artículo , ARW aXXXwadsworth@blueyond
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Aren't most kitchen drawers full of (or partially full of) sharp knives
or have I got an odd kitchen set up?

Mine's full of blunt knives, does that count?

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On 19/07/2017 10:01, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Mine's full of blunt knives, does that count?


They can sharpen the knives with one of the cordless angle grinders they
use to cut through locks on bikes, mopeds, scooters, sheds etc

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On 19/07/2017 07:21, Steve Walker wrote:

I think a shop in Scotland might *if* they stocked it: IIRC the
Scottish Parliament repealed the last of the age restrictions there
around 10 years ago. But I have never seen meths in a Tesco store.

I'm pretty sure I have seen it, along with turpentine substitute in the
diy/motoring section. Not sure how long ago that was though.

I think you're right. Sorry, I must try to remember never to say never.


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On 19/07/2017 09:15, wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 23:35:44 UTC+1, Robin wrote:
On 18/07/2017 23:05, Steve Walker wrote:

The references in the previous posts and mine were referring to children
walking in and buying items at the counter that they would not be able
to do so today. No way would Tesco sell a child meths in the shop.

I think a shop in Scotland might *if* they stocked it: IIRC the
Scottish Parliament repealed the last of the age restrictions there
around 10 years ago. But I have never seen meths in a Tesco store.

That item is not from Tesco, it's sold by a trading partner.


If by "that item" you mean the one in TNP's link, yes - but Steve Walker
had taken us back to items for sale in a bricks-and-mortar shop.

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On 19/07/17 11:15, Robin wrote:
On 19/07/2017 09:15, wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 23:35:44 UTC+1, Robin wrote:
On 18/07/2017 23:05, Steve Walker wrote:

The references in the previous posts and mine were referring to
children
walking in and buying items at the counter that they would not be able
to do so today. No way would Tesco sell a child meths in the shop.

I think a shop in Scotland might *if* they stocked it: IIRC the
Scottish Parliament repealed the last of the age restrictions there
around 10 years ago. But I have never seen meths in a Tesco store.

That item is not from Tesco, it's sold by a trading partner.


If by "that item" you mean the one in TNP's link, yes - but Steve Walker
had taken us back to items for sale in a bricks-and-mortar shop.

B&Q stock it.

AS do most builders merchants.

Its not exactly hard to get, but its availability reflects changes in
the pattern of usage.

Its no longer a useful thing to start a paraffin stove or lamp
with,which is why it was available in any hardware store. It was
replaced by solid fuel starters as early as the 60s, and paraffin is
almost unused these days as well.

But it is used by woodworkers and craft people as a useful solvent,.


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On 18/07/2017 21:44, Steve Walker wrote:
On 18/07/2017 19:44, Robin wrote:
Possibly. But we have yet to see the details. And the requirement to
"collect it in person" may include collecting it from one of the shops
which deal with parcels if there is a person there who is trusted to
check ID.

That'll be great for someone wanting a knife, blades, whatever else gets
covered when they live way out in the countryside - especially of they
don't drive!

The problem has presumably been caused because the banks decided to
issue debit cards to under 18s - I'm sure you used to have to be 18 to
get one at one time.

Technically, though, they could use (say) Amazon gift vouchers, bought
with cash from a supermarket.


Anyway, what stops a child taking a knife, sharpened screwdriver, even
an axe from their parents' garage or house?

SteveW

Well, indeed. I never saw the point of these knife anmesties- surely the
type of people that hand in knives at one are exactly the sort of people
who wouldn't stab someone, and *if* you're the type of person who might
stab someone, there's many, many suitable weapons in the average house
or toolshed?

In article ,
Chris Bartram wrote:
Well, indeed. I never saw the point of these knife anmesties- surely the
type of people that hand in knives at one are exactly the sort of people
who wouldn't stab someone, and *if* you're the type of person who might
stab someone, there's many, many suitable weapons in the average house
or toolshed?

It's sort of the point I was making. These laws seem to be made for law
abiding people. And will likely do zero to get to the crux of the problem.
You need look no further than making some drugs illegal.

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On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 17:00:35 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 11:49:48 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/07/2017 10:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line
collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It used to be only "adult" things that children couldn't buy. Now it's
things mainly used by children (knives and glue).

Acid too it seems. I remmeber buying acid from bearmans
in leytonstone in the early 70s for my chemisty set.

You can still get all but the most obscure acids any time you like.

That goes for most substances.

On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 21:44:16 UTC+1, Steve Walker wrote:
On 18/07/2017 19:44, Robin wrote:
Possibly. But we have yet to see the details. And the requirement to
"collect it in person" may include collecting it from one of the shops
which deal with parcels if there is a person there who is trusted to
check ID.

That'll be great for someone wanting a knife, blades, whatever else gets
covered when they live way out in the countryside - especially of they
don't drive!

The problem has presumably been caused because the banks decided to
issue debit cards to under 18s - I'm sure you used to have to be 18 to
get one at one time.

Anyway, what stops a child taking a knife, sharpened screwdriver, even
an axe from their parents' garage or house?

The same things that could stop them taking cash out of their mums purse or taking the car for a drive, or getting in the medicine cabinet or putting the cat in the microwave.
Thre's a range of options depending on the kid and thier parents.

On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 21:45:54 UTC+1, Steve Walker wrote:
On 18/07/2017 13:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 11:49:48 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/07/2017 10:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It used to be only "adult" things that children couldn't buy. Now it's
things mainly used by children (knives and glue).

Acid too it seems. I remmeber buying acid from bearmans in leytonstone in the early 70s for my chemisty set.

And methylated spirits for my Mamod traction engine.

Yes I had one of those, burnt myself a few times and first found out what meths tasted like.

On Wednesday, 19 July 2017 13:14:55 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Chris Bartram wrote:

Well, indeed. I never saw the point of these knife anmesties- surely the
type of people that hand in knives at one are exactly the sort of people
who wouldn't stab someone, and *if* you're the type of person who might
stab someone, there's many, many suitable weapons in the average house
or toolshed?

It's sort of the point I was making. These laws seem to be made for law
abiding people. And will likely do zero to get to the crux of the problem.
You need look no further than making some drugs illegal.

I think the knife amnesty is for law abiding people that find knives that have only one purpose, for kids to wave at people. So it does remove some. What percentage I don't know.


NT

On Wednesday, 19 July 2017 13:45:22 UTC+1, wrote:
On Wednesday, 19 July 2017 13:14:55 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Chris Bartram wrote:

Well, indeed. I never saw the point of these knife anmesties- surely the
type of people that hand in knives at one are exactly the sort of people
who wouldn't stab someone, and *if* you're the type of person who might
stab someone, there's many, many suitable weapons in the average house
or toolshed?

It's sort of the point I was making. These laws seem to be made for law
abiding people. And will likely do zero to get to the crux of the problem.
You need look no further than making some drugs illegal.

I think the knife amnesty is for law abiding people that find knives that have only one purpose, for kids to wave at people. So it does remove some. What percentage I don't know.

Have you seen some of the knives law abiding people have put into these bins.
I'm not sure why a law abiding person might have such a knife as standard kitchen and such knives aren't normally a problem if left at home.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/830...re-Jay-Whiston

These bins are good for those that might not have been law biding in the past but wish to change there ways, the same things happend with guns.

In article ,
Huge wrote:
On 2017-07-19, Chris Bartram wrote:

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Well, indeed. I never saw the point of these knife anmesties- surely
the type of people that hand in knives at one are exactly the sort of
people who wouldn't stab someone, and *if* you're the type of person
who might stab someone, there's many, many suitable weapons in the
average house or toolshed?

Precisely.

"Something must be done."

"This is something."

"Therefore we shall do it."

Good to see you actually answering the point rather than being your usual
net cop.

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On 19/07/2017 08:25, wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 23:05:23 UTC+1, Steve Walker wrote:
No way would Tesco sell a child meths in the shop.

Poundland age-checked me for a small tin of yacht varnish yesterday.

I wonder if they thought I was going to make some graffiti glossy and water-resistant?

Owain


I got checked for a pack of six teaspoons in Tesco.

In article . com,
dennis@home wrote:
On 19/07/2017 08:25, wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 23:05:23 UTC+1, Steve Walker wrote:
No way would Tesco sell a child meths in the shop.

Poundland age-checked me for a small tin of yacht varnish yesterday.

I wonder if they thought I was going to make some graffiti glossy and
water-resistant?

Owain


I got checked for a pack of six teaspoons in Tesco.

Tesco must 'flag' things by area. You'll get checked for age when buying
zero alcohol Beck's Blue too.

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En el artículo . com,
dennis@home escribió:

I got checked for a pack of six teaspoons in Tesco.

They thought you were a stirrer.

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Dave Plowman wrote:

Tesco must 'flag' things by area. You'll get checked for age when buying
zero alcohol Beck's Blue too.

But schoolkids can buy 0.5% "Top Deck Shandy" or whatever the equivalent
is today ...

"dennis@home" wrote in message
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On 19/07/2017 08:25, wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 23:05:23 UTC+1, Steve Walker wrote:
No way would Tesco sell a child meths in the shop.

Poundland age-checked me for a small tin of yacht varnish yesterday.

I wonder if they thought I was going to make some graffiti glossy and water-resistant?

Owain


I got checked for a pack of six teaspoons in Tesco.

It soze you can cook your crack, bro'.

Only surprise is they don' take pity on you and give you
the name of a local dealer.



michael adams

....

In article ,
Andy Burns wrote:
Dave Plowman wrote:

Tesco must 'flag' things by area. You'll get checked for age when buying
zero alcohol Beck's Blue too.

But schoolkids can buy 0.5% "Top Deck Shandy" or whatever the equivalent
is today ...

I don't think so, these days.

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charles wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

schoolkids can buy 0.5% "Top Deck Shandy"

I don't think so, these days.

Assuming that the Licensing Act 2003 is what applies, then something
which is specifically defined as "not alcohol" would presumably be
available for sale to anyone, including minors?

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/17

In this Act, €œalcohol€� means spirits, wine, beer, cider or any other
fermented, distilled or spirituous liquor, but does not include€”

(a)alcohol which is of a strength not exceeding 0.5%

On 19/07/2017 19:28, Andy Burns wrote:
charles wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

schoolkids can buy 0.5% "Top Deck Shandy"

I don't think so, these days.

Assuming that the Licensing Act 2003 is what applies, then something
which is specifically defined as "not alcohol" would presumably be
available for sale to anyone, including minors?

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/17

In this Act, €œalcohol€� means spirits, wine, beer, cider or any other
fermented, distilled or spirituous liquor, but does not include€”

(a)alcohol which is of a strength not exceeding 0.5%

They have to do that as fruit juices could be naturally fermented.

(I think the limit used to be 2° proof, ~1%.)

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 11:27:56 +0100, Huge wrote:

On 2017-07-18, Robin wrote:
On 18/07/2017 10:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

I find it hard to believe that a person who claims knowledge of such a
vast range of subjects can have failed to see - or find online in a
matter of minutes - ways a person under 18 can buy knives online so I
can only think you were casting around for an excuse to make yet another
OT, political, gratuitously insulting, and boring post.

Spot on. Dave's jerking knee bigotry ("Tories Bad, Labour Good") is,
as you say, OT, gratuitously insulting, boring and generally
wrong. And no "OT" in the Subject so we can killfile them. (Dave's
already killfiled here).

Clearly not, as you replied to someone who replied to him. Are you using a ZX Spectrum for your killfile? Do you actually see replies to someone you killfiled? How pathetic.

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It's an utterly stupid reaction. If I was a kid I'd take a knife from my mother's kitchen drawer.

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On Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:40:13 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It's an utterly stupid reaction. If I was a kid I'd take a knife from my mother's kitchen drawer.

And you'd probbaly end up stabbing yourself, so that wouldn't be a problem.

But maybe if a mother has a kid that takes knives out of draws to stab other peole with maybe she's not a very good mother.

On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:37:05 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:40:13 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It's an utterly stupid reaction. If I was a kid I'd take a knife from my mother's kitchen drawer.

And you'd probbaly end up stabbing yourself, so that wouldn't be a problem.

But maybe if a mother has a kid that takes knives out of draws to stab other peole with maybe she's not a very good mother.

Bull****. What mother locks the kitchen drawer? Only a really terrible one who failed to teach her kids right from wrong.

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On Friday, 21 July 2017 02:18:24 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:37:05 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:40:13 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It's an utterly stupid reaction. If I was a kid I'd take a knife from my mother's kitchen drawer.

And you'd probbaly end up stabbing yourself, so that wouldn't be a problem.

But maybe if a mother has a kid that takes knives out of draws to stab other peole with maybe she's not a very good mother.

Bull****. What mother locks the kitchen drawer?

One that knows that some things shouldn;t be handled or uswed by kids.

Only a really terrible one who failed to teach her kids right from wrong.

Some kids don't understand such things and need to learn such things BEFORE they are allowed to use them.
Maybe if yuor parents had taught you abouht door heights and weaqrign shoes you wouldn't have the problems you have today.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 11:09:16 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 21 July 2017 02:18:24 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:37:05 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:40:13 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It's an utterly stupid reaction. If I was a kid I'd take a knife from my mother's kitchen drawer.

And you'd probbaly end up stabbing yourself, so that wouldn't be a problem.

But maybe if a mother has a kid that takes knives out of draws to stab other peole with maybe she's not a very good mother.

Bull****. What mother locks the kitchen drawer?

One that knows that some things shouldn;t be handled or uswed by kids.

Never known any do that. Never known any kids abuse the knives either. What you meant to say was "any mother who hasn't taught her child right from wrong".

How annoying to have to unlock and relock the drawer every time she uses it! Then hide the key!

Only a really terrible one who failed to teach her kids right from wrong.

Some kids don't understand such things and need to learn such things BEFORE they are allowed to use them.

Where "some kids" = complete and utter retards. I was talking about normal children. Every single child I knew when growing up had an unlocked drawer. Nobody ever took a knife. Only thing we did was nick money then go buy matches to light fires.

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On Friday, 21 July 2017 02:18:24 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:37:05 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:40:13 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line
collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It's an utterly stupid reaction. If I was a kid I'd take a knife from
my mother's kitchen drawer.

And you'd probbaly end up stabbing yourself, so that wouldn't be a
problem.

But maybe if a mother has a kid that takes knives out of draws to stab
other peole with maybe she's not a very good mother.

Bull****. What mother locks the kitchen drawer?

One that knows that some things shouldn;t be handled or uswed by kids.

Never come across anyone who does that.

I have heard of a few with brats that have Prader-Willi syndrome who have
locked the fridge and food cupboards, but never actually met one in person.

On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 11:19:26 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 11:09:16 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 21 July 2017 02:18:24 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:37:05 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:40:13 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It's an utterly stupid reaction. If I was a kid I'd take a knife from my mother's kitchen drawer.

And you'd probbaly end up stabbing yourself, so that wouldn't be a problem.

But maybe if a mother has a kid that takes knives out of draws to stab other peole with maybe she's not a very good mother.

Bull****. What mother locks the kitchen drawer?

One that knows that some things shouldn;t be handled or used by kids.

Never known any do that.

And why should that suprise me.

Never known any kids abuse the knives either. Proves yuo don't know much.


What you meant to say was "any mother who hasn't taught her child right from wrong".

How annoying to have to unlock and relock the drawer every time she uses it! Then hide the key!

My mum didn't need to do that. I don't remmeber her telling me not to drink the bleach either.
Did you take a knife from your mums draw and go out attacking people with it ?


Only a really terrible one who failed to teach her kids right from wrong.

Some kids don't understand such things and need to learn such things BEFORE they are allowed to use them.

Where "some kids" = complete and utter retards. I was talking about normal children.

Normal childen don't normally go around stabbing each other.


Every single child I knew when growing up had an unlocked drawer. Nobody ever took a knife. Only thing we did was nick money then go buy matches to light fires.

I never took any money from anyone and never thought about buying matches to start a fire. I would bhope that any parent finding out this is what their child was doing would try to stop them and explain the dangers.

On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 11:57:08 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Friday, 21 July 2017 02:18:24 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:37:05 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:40:13 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line
collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It's an utterly stupid reaction. If I was a kid I'd take a knife from
my mother's kitchen drawer.

And you'd probbaly end up stabbing yourself, so that wouldn't be a
problem.

But maybe if a mother has a kid that takes knives out of draws to stab
other peole with maybe she's not a very good mother.

Bull****. What mother locks the kitchen drawer?

One that knows that some things shouldn;t be handled or uswed by kids.

Never come across anyone who does that.

I have heard of a few with brats that have Prader-Willi syndrome who have
locked the fridge and food cupboards, but never actually met one in person.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...her-death.html

How do you know yuo've never met one in person.

On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 11:57:08 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 21 July 2017 02:18:24 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:37:05 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:40:13 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line
collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It's an utterly stupid reaction. If I was a kid I'd take a knife from
my mother's kitchen drawer.

And you'd probbaly end up stabbing yourself, so that wouldn't be a
problem.

But maybe if a mother has a kid that takes knives out of draws to stab
other peole with maybe she's not a very good mother.

Bull****. What mother locks the kitchen drawer?

One that knows that some things shouldn;t be handled or uswed by kids.

Never come across anyone who does that.

I have heard of a few with brats that have Prader-Willi syndrome who have
locked the fridge and food cupboards, but never actually met one in person.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...her-death.html

How do you know yuo've never met one in person ?

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 11:57:08 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Friday, 21 July 2017 02:18:24 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:37:05 +0100, whisky-dave

wrote:

On Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:40:13 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line
collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It's an utterly stupid reaction. If I was a kid I'd take a knife
from
my mother's kitchen drawer.

And you'd probbaly end up stabbing yourself, so that wouldn't be a
problem.

But maybe if a mother has a kid that takes knives out of draws to
stab
other peole with maybe she's not a very good mother.

Bull****. What mother locks the kitchen drawer?

One that knows that some things shouldn;t be handled or uswed by kids.

Never come across anyone who does that.

I have heard of a few with brats that have Prader-Willi syndrome who have
locked the fridge and food cupboards, but never actually met one in
person.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...her-death.html

What is it with you lot ? Even worse than James Bulger.

How do you know yuo've never met one in person.

Those with Prader-Willi are obscenely obese.

One mate of mine was that obese, by far the most
obese person I have ever met in person rather than
seen in a doco etc, but he didnt have Prader-Willi

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 14:59:44 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 11:19:26 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 11:09:16 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 21 July 2017 02:18:24 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:37:05 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:40:13 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It's an utterly stupid reaction. If I was a kid I'd take a knife from my mother's kitchen drawer.

And you'd probbaly end up stabbing yourself, so that wouldn't be a problem.

But maybe if a mother has a kid that takes knives out of draws to stab other peole with maybe she's not a very good mother.

Bull****. What mother locks the kitchen drawer?

One that knows that some things shouldn;t be handled or used by kids.

Never known any do that.

And why should that suprise me.

I must know more intelligent people than you. Kids I know have never wanted to take a knife and do things they shouldn't with it.

Never known any kids abuse the knives either. Proves yuo don't know much.

What you meant to say was "any mother who hasn't taught her child right from wrong".

How annoying to have to unlock and relock the drawer every time she uses it! Then hide the key!

My mum didn't need to do that. I don't remmeber her telling me not to drink the bleach either.
Did you take a knife from your mums draw and go out attacking people with it ?

No I didn't. Like your parents, it was unnecessary to lock the drawer. That's my point.

Only a really terrible one who failed to teach her kids right from wrong.

Some kids don't understand such things and need to learn such things BEFORE they are allowed to use them.

Where "some kids" = complete and utter retards. I was talking about normal children.

Normal childen don't normally go around stabbing each other.

Exactly, so no point in locking the drawer then.

Every single child I knew when growing up had an unlocked drawer. Nobody ever took a knife. Only thing we did was nick money then go buy matches to light fires.

I never took any money from anyone and never thought about buying matches to start a fire. I would bhope that any parent finding out this is what their child was doing would try to stop them and explain the dangers.

I was clever enough to never get caught, even when an entire field set light.

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On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:24:04 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 14:59:44 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 11:19:26 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 11:09:16 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 21 July 2017 02:18:24 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:37:05 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:40:13 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It's an utterly stupid reaction. If I was a kid I'd take a knife from my mother's kitchen drawer.

And you'd probbaly end up stabbing yourself, so that wouldn't be a problem.

But maybe if a mother has a kid that takes knives out of draws to stab other peole with maybe she's not a very good mother.

Bull****. What mother locks the kitchen drawer?

One that knows that some things shouldn;t be handled or used by kids.

Never known any do that.

And why should that suprise me.

I must know more intelligent people than you.

I doubt that.


Kids I know have never wanted to take a knife and do things they shouldn't with it.

I'm not sure that proves anything maybe they don't know what a knife is or what it can be used for.




Never known any kids abuse the knives either. Proves yuo don't know much.

What you meant to say was "any mother who hasn't taught her child right from wrong".

How annoying to have to unlock and relock the drawer every time she uses it! Then hide the key!

My mum didn't need to do that. I don't remmeber her telling me not to drink the bleach either.
Did you take a knife from your mums draw and go out attacking people with it ?

No I didn't. Like your parents, it was unnecessary to lock the drawer. That's my point.

Makes you wonder why parents can't control their kids.



Only a really terrible one who failed to teach her kids right from wrong.

Some kids don't understand such things and need to learn such things BEFORE they are allowed to use them.

Where "some kids" = complete and utter retards. I was talking about normal children.

Normal childen don't normally go around stabbing each other.

Exactly, so no point in locking the drawer then.

Well there shouldn't be, but soem kids like to behave like adults or to be seen as adults doing adult things. Could be as simple as smoking or driving a car.



Every single child I knew when growing up had an unlocked drawer. Nobody ever took a knife. Only thing we did was nick money then go buy matches to light fires.

I never took any money from anyone and never thought about buying matches to start a fire. I would bhope that any parent finding out this is what their child was doing would try to stop them and explain the dangers.

I was clever enough to never get caught, even when an entire field set light.

Some parents are thick and can't even teach themselves about dangers so their kids have no chnace ot learn from them.

On Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:08:49 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 12:17:38 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:24:04 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 14:59:44 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 11:19:26 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 11:09:16 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 21 July 2017 02:18:24 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:37:05 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:40:13 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It's an utterly stupid reaction. If I was a kid I'd take a knife from my mother's kitchen drawer.

And you'd probbaly end up stabbing yourself, so that wouldn't be a problem.

But maybe if a mother has a kid that takes knives out of draws to stab other peole with maybe she's not a very good mother.

Bull****. What mother locks the kitchen drawer?

One that knows that some things shouldn;t be handled or used by kids.

Never known any do that.

And why should that suprise me.

I must know more intelligent people than you.

I doubt that.

I can tell you ain't too bright.

But what makes uo think you know more inteligent peole than me, I'm working in a university I typically talk to one of two people or more a day with PhDs and higher.

One of our students has written a paper on €œA Practical Model and an Optimal Controller for Variable Speed Wind Turbine Permanent Magnet Synchronous Generator€� and awarded the best student paper candidate in the 9th IEEE conference on Modelling, Identification and Control (ICMIC 2017).

3 other reaseach studetns this week have passed their PhD vivas.
One on "Minimising Human Annotation for Scalable Person Re-Identification"

And you have a problem outwiting a doorframe. ;-P


Kids I know have never wanted to take a knife and do things they shouldn't with it.

I'm not sure that proves anything maybe they don't know what a knife is or what it can be used for.

Well they watch TV.

So if inteligent enough might realsie there's little reason for them to carry one, those depicted on the TV seem to have their reasons for carrying them, mostley claimed for self defence.



How annoying to have to unlock and relock the drawer every time she uses it! Then hide the key!

My mum didn't need to do that. I don't remmeber her telling me not to drink the bleach either.
Did you take a knife from your mums draw and go out attacking people with it ?

No I didn't. Like your parents, it was unnecessary to lock the drawer.. That's my point.

Makes you wonder why parents can't control their kids.

Bad genetics. A wild kid is just wild, nothing to do with upbringing, I reckon the brain is ****ed.

How did the brain get ****ed ? headbutting the door frame, alcohol, drugs.......



Normal childen don't normally go around stabbing each other.

Exactly, so no point in locking the drawer then.

Well there shouldn't be, but soem kids like to behave like adults or to be seen as adults doing adult things. Could be as simple as smoking or driving a car.

When I was 19 I showed a local 14 year old the basics of driving a car. He took it upon himself the next day to reverse his mother's car out of the garage and remove the wingmirror with the garage doorframe.

I wouldn't allow a kid of that age to drive a car even when supervised (unless on a private road). I didn't hang around 14 year-olds when I was 19.




I never took any money from anyone and never thought about buying matches to start a fire. I would bhope that any parent finding out this is what their child was doing would try to stop them and explain the dangers.

I was clever enough to never get caught, even when an entire field set light.

Some parents are thick and can't even teach themselves about dangers so their kids have no chnance ot learn from them.

Anyone who considers a danger is a sissy. Just get on with life.

That's why H&S is needed to many thick peole doing dangerous or potentially dangerous things to themselves without knowing, or worse still to others.

On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 16:30:28 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:08:49 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 12:17:38 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:24:04 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 14:59:44 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 11:19:26 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 11:09:16 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 21 July 2017 02:18:24 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:37:05 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:40:13 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It's an utterly stupid reaction. If I was a kid I'd take a knife from my mother's kitchen drawer.

And you'd probbaly end up stabbing yourself, so that wouldn't be a problem.

But maybe if a mother has a kid that takes knives out of draws to stab other peole with maybe she's not a very good mother.

Bull****. What mother locks the kitchen drawer?

One that knows that some things shouldn;t be handled or used by kids.

Never known any do that.

And why should that suprise me.

I must know more intelligent people than you.

I doubt that.

I can tell you ain't too bright.

But what makes uo think you know more inteligent peole than me, I'm working in a university I typically talk to one of two people or more a day with PhDs and higher.

We were talking about kids with knives. I assume your students aren't kids.

Kids I know have never wanted to take a knife and do things they shouldn't with it.

I'm not sure that proves anything maybe they don't know what a knife is or what it can be used for.

Well they watch TV.

So if inteligent enough might realsie there's little reason for them to carry one, those depicted on the TV seem to have their reasons for carrying them, mostley claimed for self defence.

Or to attack the **** that lives down the road that they don't like.

How annoying to have to unlock and relock the drawer every time she uses it! Then hide the key!

My mum didn't need to do that. I don't remmeber her telling me not to drink the bleach either.
Did you take a knife from your mums draw and go out attacking people with it ?

No I didn't. Like your parents, it was unnecessary to lock the drawer. That's my point.

Makes you wonder why parents can't control their kids.

Bad genetics. A wild kid is just wild, nothing to do with upbringing, I reckon the brain is ****ed.

How did the brain get ****ed ? headbutting the door frame, alcohol, drugs......

GENETICS.

Normal childen don't normally go around stabbing each other.

Exactly, so no point in locking the drawer then.

Well there shouldn't be, but soem kids like to behave like adults or to be seen as adults doing adult things. Could be as simple as smoking or driving a car.

When I was 19 I showed a local 14 year old the basics of driving a car. He took it upon himself the next day to reverse his mother's car out of the garage and remove the wingmirror with the garage doorframe.

I wouldn't allow a kid of that age to drive a car even when supervised (unless on a private road). I didn't hang around 14 year-olds when I was 19.

A 17 year old can legally drive a car by themselves. Do you seriously think someone 3 years younger is incapable of driving one with assistance?

Just checked, apparently you have to have a provisional license before you can be taught to drive? Never heard of that before. My dad taught me to drive before I got a provisional. I only got the provisional when I was about to take my test. I thought anyone was allowed to drive if a licensed driver was in the passenger seat.

I never took any money from anyone and never thought about buying matches to start a fire. I would bhope that any parent finding out this is what their child was doing would try to stop them and explain the dangers.

I was clever enough to never get caught, even when an entire field set light.

Some parents are thick and can't even teach themselves about dangers so their kids have no chnance ot learn from them.

Anyone who considers a danger is a sissy. Just get on with life.

That's why H&S is needed to many thick peole doing dangerous or potentially dangerous things to themselves without knowing, or worse still to others.

It's not needed. Like I said, non-sissies are not scared of danger. Look out for yourself and stop worrying about others.

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On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 16:30:28 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:08:49 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 12:17:38 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:24:04 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 14:59:44 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

Normal childen don't normally go around stabbing each other.

Exactly, so no point in locking the drawer then.

Well there shouldn't be, but soem kids like to behave like adults or to be seen as adults doing adult things. Could be as simple as smoking or driving a car.

When I was 19 I showed a local 14 year old the basics of driving a car. He took it upon himself the next day to reverse his mother's car out of the garage and remove the wingmirror with the garage doorframe.

I wouldn't allow a kid of that age to drive a car even when supervised (unless on a private road). I didn't hang around 14 year-olds when I was 19.

I had to, he was the village drug dealer.

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There are forty £100 million notes in the Bank of England.

On 27/07/2017 16:45, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 16:30:28 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:08:49 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 12:17:38 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:24:04 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 14:59:44 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 11:19:26 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 11:09:16 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Friday, 21 July 2017 02:18:24 UTC+1, James Wilkinson
Sword wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:37:05 +0100, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:40:13 UTC+1, James Wilkinson
Sword wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought
on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious
problem?

It's an utterly stupid reaction. If I was a kid I'd take
a knife from my mother's kitchen drawer.

And you'd probbaly end up stabbing yourself, so that
wouldn't be a problem.

But maybe if a mother has a kid that takes knives out of
draws to stab other peole with maybe she's not a very good mother.

Bull****. What mother locks the kitchen drawer?

One that knows that some things shouldn;t be handled or used
by kids.

Never known any do that.

And why should that suprise me.

I must know more intelligent people than you.

I doubt that.

I can tell you ain't too bright.

But what makes uo think you know more inteligent peole than me, I'm
working in a university I typically talk to one of two people or more
a day with PhDs and higher.

We were talking about kids with knives. I assume your students aren't
kids.

Kids I know have never wanted to take a knife and do things they
shouldn't with it.

I'm not sure that proves anything maybe they don't know what a
knife is or what it can be used for.

Well they watch TV.

So if inteligent enough might realsie there's little reason for them
to carry one, those depicted on the TV seem to have their reasons for
carrying them, mostley claimed for self defence.

Or to attack the **** that lives down the road that they don't like.

My cousin took one with him (fortunately nothing came from it) at the
age of about 14, because he was told that a friend of his ex-girlfriend
and his gang of friends were going to beat him to a pulp when they next
bumped into him. Understandable really.

SteveW

On Thursday, 27 July 2017 16:45:30 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 16:30:28 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:08:49 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 12:17:38 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:24:04 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 14:59:44 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 11:19:26 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 11:09:16 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 21 July 2017 02:18:24 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:37:05 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:40:13 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It's an utterly stupid reaction. If I was a kid I'd take a knife from my mother's kitchen drawer.

And you'd probbaly end up stabbing yourself, so that wouldn't be a problem.

But maybe if a mother has a kid that takes knives out of draws to stab other peole with maybe she's not a very good mother.

Bull****. What mother locks the kitchen drawer?

One that knows that some things shouldn;t be handled or used by kids.

Never known any do that.

And why should that suprise me.

I must know more intelligent people than you.

I doubt that.

I can tell you ain't too bright.

But what makes uo think you know more inteligent peole than me, I'm working in a university I typically talk to one of two people or more a day with PhDs and higher.

We were talking about kids with knives. I assume your students aren't kids.

I don't know any kids, the vast majority of people I talk to are over the age of consent and they can buy alcohol legally and own a credit card of some sort.
This is partly what makes me think I know more inmteligent people than you.



Kids I know have never wanted to take a knife and do things they shouldn't with it.

I'm not sure that proves anything maybe they don't know what a knife is or what it can be used for.

Well they watch TV.

So if inteligent enough might realsie there's little reason for them to carry one, those depicted on the TV seem to have their reasons for carrying them, mostley claimed for self defence.

Or to attack the **** that lives down the road that they don't like.

That's not the reason(s) they give.




When I was 19 I showed a local 14 year old the basics of driving a car. He took it upon himself the next day to reverse his mother's car out of the garage and remove the wingmirror with the garage doorframe.

I wouldn't allow a kid of that age to drive a car even when supervised (unless on a private road). I didn't hang around 14 year-olds when I was 19.

A 17 year old can legally drive a car by themselves.

So.

Do you seriously think someone 3 years younger is incapable of driving one with assistance?

I never said that, all I said is I wouldn't allow a 14 year-old to drive on a public road.



Just checked, apparently you have to have a provisional license before you can be taught to drive? Never heard of that before.

I have and last time I checked it lasted a year.

My dad taught me to drive before I got a provisional.

No problem if on a private road.

I only got the provisional when I was about to take my test. I thought anyone was allowed to drive if a licensed driver was in the passenger seat.

I've always known that a provisional license was required for someone driving on a public road that didn't have any other form of driving license.





Anyone who considers a danger is a sissy. Just get on with life.

That's why H&S is needed to many thick peole doing dangerous or potentially dangerous things to themselves without knowing, or worse still to others.

It's not needed. Like I said, non-sissies are not scared of danger.

That's because they lack the inteligence required to stay safe.

Look out for yourself and stop worrying about others.

That's why those on underground platforms tend to fall on the tracks, because others are behind them and it;s easy to get knock off balance especailly in 'rush hour'.
You shouldn't stand close to the edge if you can't judge how far your shoes stick out either.

On Tue, 01 Aug 2017 11:44:46 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 27 July 2017 16:45:30 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 16:30:28 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:08:49 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 12:17:38 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 19:24:04 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 14:59:44 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 11:19:26 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 11:09:16 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 21 July 2017 02:18:24 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:37:05 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:40:13 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:40:17 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected
in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

It's an utterly stupid reaction. If I was a kid I'd take a knife from my mother's kitchen drawer.

And you'd probbaly end up stabbing yourself, so that wouldn't be a problem.

But maybe if a mother has a kid that takes knives out of draws to stab other peole with maybe she's not a very good mother.

Bull****. What mother locks the kitchen drawer?

One that knows that some things shouldn;t be handled or used by kids.

Never known any do that.

And why should that suprise me.

I must know more intelligent people than you.

I doubt that.

I can tell you ain't too bright.

But what makes uo think you know more inteligent peole than me, I'm working in a university I typically talk to one of two people or more a day with PhDs and higher.

We were talking about kids with knives. I assume your students aren't kids.

I don't know any kids, the vast majority of people I talk to are over the age of consent and they can buy alcohol legally and own a credit card of some sort.
This is partly what makes me think I know more inmteligent people than you.

So basically you have no idea about how stupid or clever kids are, or how likely they are to murder someone with a kitchen knife.

Kids I know have never wanted to take a knife and do things they shouldn't with it.

I'm not sure that proves anything maybe they don't know what a knife is or what it can be used for.

Well they watch TV.

So if inteligent enough might realsie there's little reason for them to carry one, those depicted on the TV seem to have their reasons for carrying them, mostley claimed for self defence.

Or to attack the **** that lives down the road that they don't like.

That's not the reason(s) they give.

Ever heard of lying?

When I was 19 I showed a local 14 year old the basics of driving a car. He took it upon himself the next day to reverse his mother's car out of the garage and remove the wingmirror with the garage doorframe.

I wouldn't allow a kid of that age to drive a car even when supervised (unless on a private road). I didn't hang around 14 year-olds when I was 19.

A 17 year old can legally drive a car by themselves.

So.

Do you seriously think someone 3 years younger is incapable of driving one with assistance?

I never said that, all I said is I wouldn't allow a 14 year-old to drive on a public road.

Which means you think they're incapable of driving.

Just checked, apparently you have to have a provisional license before you can be taught to drive? Never heard of that before.

I have and last time I checked it lasted a year.

My dad taught me to drive before I got a provisional.

No problem if on a private road.

I only got the provisional when I was about to take my test. I thought anyone was allowed to drive if a licensed driver was in the passenger seat.

I've always known that a provisional license was required for someone driving on a public road that didn't have any other form of driving license.

Well nobody ever told me.

Anyone who considers a danger is a sissy. Just get on with life.

That's why H&S is needed to many thick peole doing dangerous or potentially dangerous things to themselves without knowing, or worse still to others.

It's not needed. Like I said, non-sissies are not scared of danger.

That's because they lack the inteligence required to stay safe.

It's not intelligent to waste time and money because you're scared of things.

Look out for yourself and stop worrying about others.

That's why those on underground platforms tend to fall on the tracks, because others are behind them and it;s easy to get knock off balance especailly in 'rush hour'.
You shouldn't stand close to the edge if you can't judge how far your shoes stick out either.

But only those standing too close to the edge are to blame.

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