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13 amp sockets in bathrooms - houses and caravans
There is an awful lot of regulation about mains power in bathrooms (but
not kitchens). I was intrigued to note the 13 amp sockets in the bathroom of our new caravan. Are there different regulations (the caravan is German manufactured to UK specification) or are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than home owners? Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Friday, 10 March 2017 12:27:28 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
Are there different regulations (the caravan is German manufactured to UK specification) or are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than home owners? Caravans aren't covered by Building Regulations. Owain |
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On 10 Mar 2017 12:27:26 GMT, David wrote:
There is an awful lot of regulation about mains power in bathrooms (but not kitchens). I was intrigued to note the 13 amp sockets in the bathroom of our new caravan. Are there different regulations (the caravan is German manufactured to UK specification) or are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than home owners? Cheers Dave R Americans have a two-word name for people who reside in caravans. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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wrote: On Friday, 10 March 2017 12:27:28 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote: Are there different regulations (the caravan is German manufactured to UK specification) or are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than home owners? Caravans aren't covered by Building Regulations. I'd also hope they'd have decent protection on the supply against electrocution. -- *Haunted French pancakes give me the crepes.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than
home owners? Jeremy Clarkson has a view......... |
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On Friday, 10 March 2017 19:42:48 UTC, ARW wrote:
Caravans aren't covered by Building Regulations. Are caravans internal electrics not required to follow BS7671 regs? They might be if it's a portable building to the relevant BS. On the other hand if it's a vehicle then I don't think the Construction and Use Regulations require vehicle electrics to comply with BS7671. Without Building Regs there's no Part P. Owain |
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On 2017-03-10, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , wrote: On Friday, 10 March 2017 12:27:28 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote: Are there different regulations (the caravan is German manufactured to UK specification) or are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than home owners? Caravans aren't covered by Building Regulations. I'd also hope they'd have decent protection on the supply against electrocution. The caravan connections that I've seen (small sample, I admit!) have an RCD outside the caravan & upstream of the caravan's own CU. IIRC, it's a 30 mA RCD. |
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On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 21:42:19 +0000, Adam Funk wrote:
On 2017-03-10, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , wrote: On Friday, 10 March 2017 12:27:28 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote: Are there different regulations (the caravan is German manufactured to UK specification) or are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than home owners? Caravans aren't covered by Building Regulations. I'd also hope they'd have decent protection on the supply against electrocution. The caravan connections that I've seen (small sample, I admit!) have an RCD outside the caravan & upstream of the caravan's own CU. IIRC, it's a 30 mA RCD. External box (blue 3 round pin connector) has a breaker. Caravan or motor home normally has a fuse box and breakers inside (much like a normal house). So two levels of protection with implied mutual distrust. Can't be arsed to go outside tonight to check on rating of breakers in the van. Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 10/03/2017 15:49, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , wrote: On Friday, 10 March 2017 12:27:28 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote: Are there different regulations (the caravan is German manufactured to UK specification) or are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than home owners? Caravans aren't covered by Building Regulations. I'd also hope they'd have decent protection on the supply against electrocution. The supply side at a caravan park is a TT supply and so has 30mA RCD protection. -- Adam |
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On 11/03/17 14:07, Huge wrote:
On 2017-03-10, wrote: On Friday, 10 March 2017 12:27:28 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote: Are there different regulations (the caravan is German manufactured to UK specification) or are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than home owners? Caravans aren't covered by Building Regulations. Besides, a dead caravanner is a good caravanner, Were you the one stuck behind me for 3 hours in 1985 as I towed a caravan with a Fiat 131 stuck in 3rd gear all the way to the Forest of Dean? |
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Adam Funk brought next idea :
The caravan connections that I've seen (small sample, I admit!) have an RCD outside the caravan & upstream of the caravan's own CU. IIRC, it's a 30 mA RCD. Which are often rusted up. The DB inside the caravan is also fitted with an RCD. |
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 09:00:15 +0000, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Adam Funk brought next idea : The caravan connections that I've seen (small sample, I admit!) have an RCD outside the caravan & upstream of the caravan's own CU. IIRC, it's a 30 mA RCD. Which are often rusted up. The DB inside the caravan is also fitted with an RCD. Must remember to test the RCD when hooking up to a caravan site mains. Usually it is such a relief to find a blue plug that the lead just gets banged in then the kettle plugged in. Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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David explained :
Must remember to test the RCD when hooking up to a caravan site mains. Usually it is such a relief to find a blue plug that the lead just gets banged in then the kettle plugged in. I also do a rough polarity check, though I must admit I have never found one with an obvious wrong polarity. Make sure that if the EHU cable is on a reel, that it MUST be run completely off the reel to prevent it over heating. |
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In article , Harry Bloomfield
writes David explained : Must remember to test the RCD when hooking up to a caravan site mains. Usually it is such a relief to find a blue plug that the lead just gets banged in then the kettle plugged in. I also do a rough polarity check, though I must admit I have never found one with an obvious wrong polarity. Make sure that if the EHU cable is on a reel, that it MUST be run completely off the reel to prevent it over heating. Don't know if this was answered but this is from the caravan Club technical advice pages "The distribution and supply of electrical power in the UK, as well as wiring installations in buildings, caravan sites and caravans is governed by the British Standard BS7671, 2001" Maybe the regs been updated since then. -- bert |
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