13 amp sockets in bathrooms - houses and caravans
 

There is an awful lot of regulation about mains power in bathrooms (but
not kitchens).

I was intrigued to note the 13 amp sockets in the bathroom of our new
caravan.

Are there different regulations (the caravan is German manufactured to UK
specification) or are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than home
owners?

Cheers


Dave R

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On Friday, 10 March 2017 12:27:28 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
Are there different regulations (the caravan is German manufactured to UK
specification) or are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than home
owners?

Caravans aren't covered by Building Regulations.

Owain

13 amp sockets in bathrooms - houses and caravans
 

On 10 Mar 2017 12:27:26 GMT, David wrote:

There is an awful lot of regulation about mains power in bathrooms (but
not kitchens).

I was intrigued to note the 13 amp sockets in the bathroom of our new
caravan.

Are there different regulations (the caravan is German manufactured to UK
specification) or are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than home
owners?

Cheers


Dave R


Americans have a two-word name for people who reside in caravans.


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13 amp sockets in bathrooms - houses and caravans
 

In article ,
wrote:
On Friday, 10 March 2017 12:27:28 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
Are there different regulations (the caravan is German manufactured to
UK specification) or are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than
home owners?

Caravans aren't covered by Building Regulations.

I'd also hope they'd have decent protection on the supply against
electrocution.

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13 amp sockets in bathrooms - houses and caravans
 

are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than
home owners?

Jeremy Clarkson has a view.........

13 amp sockets in bathrooms - houses and caravans
 

On 10/03/2017 15:14, wrote:
On Friday, 10 March 2017 12:27:28 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
Are there different regulations (the caravan is German manufactured to UK
specification) or are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than home
owners?

Caravans aren't covered by Building Regulations.


Are caravans internal electrics not required to follow BS7671 regs?




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13 amp sockets in bathrooms - houses and caravans
 

On Friday, 10 March 2017 19:42:48 UTC, ARW wrote:
Caravans aren't covered by Building Regulations.
Are caravans internal electrics not required to follow BS7671 regs?


They might be if it's a portable building to the relevant BS.

On the other hand if it's a vehicle then I don't think the Construction and Use Regulations require vehicle electrics to comply with BS7671.

Without Building Regs there's no Part P.

Owain

13 amp sockets in bathrooms - houses and caravans
 

On 10/03/2017 20:08, wrote:
On Friday, 10 March 2017 19:42:48 UTC, ARW wrote:
Caravans aren't covered by Building Regulations.
Are caravans internal electrics not required to follow BS7671 regs?


They might be if it's a portable building to the relevant BS.

On the other hand if it's a vehicle then I don't think the Construction and Use Regulations require vehicle electrics to comply with BS7671.

Without Building Regs there's no Part P.



I agree that Prat P does not apply.

However would it not be prudent to follow BS7671 when installing the
230V electrics in a caravan?




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13 amp sockets in bathrooms - houses and caravans
 

On 2017-03-10, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
wrote:
On Friday, 10 March 2017 12:27:28 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
Are there different regulations (the caravan is German manufactured to
UK specification) or are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than
home owners?

Caravans aren't covered by Building Regulations.

I'd also hope they'd have decent protection on the supply against
electrocution.

The caravan connections that I've seen (small sample, I admit!) have
an RCD outside the caravan & upstream of the caravan's own CU. IIRC,
it's a 30 mA RCD.

13 amp sockets in bathrooms - houses and caravans
 

On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 21:42:19 +0000, Adam Funk wrote:

On 2017-03-10, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
wrote:
On Friday, 10 March 2017 12:27:28 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google)
wrote:
Are there different regulations (the caravan is German manufactured
to UK specification) or are caravanners intrinsically less valuable
than home owners?

Caravans aren't covered by Building Regulations.

I'd also hope they'd have decent protection on the supply against
electrocution.

The caravan connections that I've seen (small sample, I admit!) have an
RCD outside the caravan & upstream of the caravan's own CU. IIRC,
it's a 30 mA RCD.

External box (blue 3 round pin connector) has a breaker.

Caravan or motor home normally has a fuse box and breakers inside (much
like a normal house).

So two levels of protection with implied mutual distrust.

Can't be arsed to go outside tonight to check on rating of breakers in the
van.

Cheers


Dave R


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On 10/03/2017 15:49, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
On Friday, 10 March 2017 12:27:28 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
Are there different regulations (the caravan is German manufactured to
UK specification) or are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than
home owners?

Caravans aren't covered by Building Regulations.

I'd also hope they'd have decent protection on the supply against
electrocution.


The supply side at a caravan park is a TT supply and so has 30mA RCD
protection.

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On 11/03/17 14:07, Huge wrote:
On 2017-03-10, wrote:
On Friday, 10 March 2017 12:27:28 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
Are there different regulations (the caravan is German manufactured to UK
specification) or are caravanners intrinsically less valuable than home
owners?

Caravans aren't covered by Building Regulations.

Besides, a dead caravanner is a good caravanner,


Were you the one stuck behind me for 3 hours in 1985 as I towed a
caravan with a Fiat 131 stuck in 3rd gear all the way to the Forest of Dean?

13 amp sockets in bathrooms - houses and caravans
 

Adam Funk brought next idea :
The caravan connections that I've seen (small sample, I admit!) have
an RCD outside the caravan & upstream of the caravan's own CU. IIRC,
it's a 30 mA RCD.

Which are often rusted up. The DB inside the caravan is also fitted
with an RCD.

13 amp sockets in bathrooms - houses and caravans
 

On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 09:00:15 +0000, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

Adam Funk brought next idea :
The caravan connections that I've seen (small sample, I admit!) have an
RCD outside the caravan & upstream of the caravan's own CU. IIRC,
it's a 30 mA RCD.

Which are often rusted up. The DB inside the caravan is also fitted with
an RCD.

Must remember to test the RCD when hooking up to a caravan site mains.
Usually it is such a relief to find a blue plug that the lead just gets
banged in then the kettle plugged in.


Cheers


Dave R


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David explained :
Must remember to test the RCD when hooking up to a caravan site mains.
Usually it is such a relief to find a blue plug that the lead just gets
banged in then the kettle plugged in.

I also do a rough polarity check, though I must admit I have never
found one with an obvious wrong polarity. Make sure that if the EHU
cable is on a reel, that it MUST be run completely off the reel to
prevent it over heating.

13 amp sockets in bathrooms - houses and caravans
 

In article , Harry Bloomfield
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David explained :
Must remember to test the RCD when hooking up to a caravan site mains.
Usually it is such a relief to find a blue plug that the lead just gets
banged in then the kettle plugged in.

I also do a rough polarity check, though I must admit I have never
found one with an obvious wrong polarity. Make sure that if the EHU
cable is on a reel, that it MUST be run completely off the reel to
prevent it over heating.
Don't know if this was answered but this is from the caravan Club
technical advice pages
"The distribution and supply of electrical power in the UK, as well as
wiring installations in buildings, caravan sites and caravans is
governed by the British Standard BS7671, 2001"
Maybe the regs been updated since then.
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