So not paying proper attention, I managed to add chainsaw-oil rather than 2-stroke oil to 5 litres of unleaded petrol. I spotted the mistake as I went to put the lid back on the incorrectly opened chainsaw-oil, so I haven't actually tried to use it.
I expect that the fuel I mixed is useless, but not really knowing anything about it I thought it worth checking first.
Assuming it is spoiled, what's the best way of getting rid of it, or should I save it to light next years bonfire? Do I need to dispose of the fuel-can too, or can I reuse that once it's empty?

On 27/02/2017 10:17, kdband wrote:
So not paying proper attention, I managed to add chainsaw-oil rather than 2-stroke oil to 5 litres of unleaded petrol. I spotted the mistake as I went to put the lid back on the incorrectly opened chainsaw-oil, so I haven't actually tried to use it.
I expect that the fuel I mixed is useless, but not really knowing anything about it I thought it worth checking first.
Assuming it is spoiled, what's the best way of getting rid of it, or should I save it to light next years bonfire? Do I need to dispose of the fuel-can too, or can I reuse that once it's empty?


If you have a petrol car, I would add it to the tank when it is nearly
full. It will burn to well for use on a bonfire.


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In message , Michael Chare
writes
On 27/02/2017 10:17, kdband wrote:
So not paying proper attention, I managed to add chainsaw-oil rather
than 2-stroke oil to 5 litres of unleaded petrol. I spotted the
mistake as I went to put the lid back on the incorrectly opened
chainsaw-oil, so I haven't actually tried to use it.
I expect that the fuel I mixed is useless, but not really knowing
anything about it I thought it worth checking first.
Assuming it is spoiled, what's the best way of getting rid of it, or
should I save it to light next years bonfire? Do I need to dispose of
the fuel-can too, or can I reuse that once it's empty?


If you have a petrol car, I would add it to the tank when it is nearly
full. It will burn to well for use on a bonfire.

Cue AJH:-)

For environmental reasons chain lubricating oil is likely to be organic
but I don't know how that might impact on combustion in an engine or the
fuel filters.

I have an idea that fuel stations may have some provision for disposing
of petrol/diesel blends:-)



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On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 11:26:12 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

snip

For environmental reasons chain lubricating oil is likely to be organic
but I don't know how that might impact on combustion in an engine or the
fuel filters.

I was wondering if the op actually shook the petrol can to mix the
(chain) oil into the petrol or not, as if not, it may well just be
sitting in the bottom of the can?

Then he might be able to tip the clean petrol off and then use it in a
lawnmower or other 'low spec' 4/ engine where a bit of oil wouldn't
typically harm anything (or my kitcar). ;-)

Or, if it was mixed, I wonder if it would settle out, given time (and
that it wasn't designed to be mixed)?

I'd be tempted to transfer it to a suitable clear glass container
(demijohn) and see what it does (just OOI etc).

Cheers, T i m

kdband wrote:
So not paying proper attention, I managed to add chainsaw-oil rather than
2-stroke oil to 5 litres of unleaded petrol. I spotted the mistake as I
went to put the lid back on the incorrectly opened chainsaw-oil, so I
haven't actually tried to use it.
I expect that the fuel I mixed is useless, but not really knowing
anything about it I thought it worth checking first.
Assuming it is spoiled, what's the best way of getting rid of it, or
should I save it to light next years bonfire? Do I need to dispose of
the fuel-can too, or can I reuse that once it's empty?


I would use it up in an old four stroke lawn mower probably and accept that
I might have to clean the plug a few times. Definitely *wouldn't* but it
on a bonfire. Petrol is just scarily flammable and it's vapour
(pre-ignition) crawls invisibly where you almost certainly don't want it to
go.

Tim
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T i m wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 11:26:12 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

snip

For environmental reasons chain lubricating oil is likely to be organic
but I don't know how that might impact on combustion in an engine or the
fuel filters.

I was wondering if the op actually shook the petrol can to mix the
(chain) oil into the petrol or not, as if not, it may well just be
sitting in the bottom of the can?

Then he might be able to tip the clean petrol off and then use it in a
lawnmower or other 'low spec' 4/ engine where a bit of oil wouldn't
typically harm anything (or my kitcar). ;-)

Or, if it was mixed, I wonder if it would settle out, given time (and
that it wasn't designed to be mixed)?

I'd be tempted to transfer it to a suitable clear glass container
(demijohn) and see what it does (just OOI etc).

I think I'd just add the right amount of 2-stroke oil as well and use
it. Garden equipment 2-stroke engines are pretty basic and unfussy.

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Chris Green
·

On 27/02/17 10:17, kdband wrote:
So not paying proper attention, I managed to add chainsaw-oil rather than 2-stroke oil to 5 litres of unleaded petrol. I spotted the mistake as I went to put the lid back on the incorrectly opened chainsaw-oil, so I haven't actually tried to use it.
I expect that the fuel I mixed is useless, but not really knowing anything about it I thought it worth checking first.
Assuming it is spoiled, what's the best way of getting rid of it, or should I save it to light next years bonfire? Do I need to dispose of the fuel-can too, or can I reuse that once it's empty?


My neighbour tried to light a bonfire with petrol and had to be taken
away in an ambulance to the specialist burns unit.

Tim ~W

On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 02:17:36 -0800 (PST), kdband wrote:

I expect that the fuel I mixed is useless, but not really knowing
anything about it I thought it worth checking first.

No one has come up with why you can't use it in the two stroke engine
it was intened for. Think I'd add a bit of proper two stroke and try
it being prepared for rather more smoke than normal and maybe having
to clean the plug a few times. I'd also keep a careful ear on the
sound of the engine and how much power it was producing,

"a bit" say 25% of what you'd normally add to 5 l of fuel?

should I save it to light next years bonfire?

With 5 litres it depends how much of the neighbourhood you want to
decorate with your bonfire. Bruncefield...

You really do not want to use petrol as a "fire lighter" BTDTGTTS.
Medium camp fire, table spoon of petrol, if that, lit match was
inches away when it went WHUMPF and the entire fire lifted up and
inch or so, I didn't lose my eyebrows but the fringe was singed. And
it didn't really start the fire very well as it burnt off so quick.
Paraffin (28 sec oil) is better and safer, diesel (35 sec oil) is
quite hard to get going but once going is good.

Do I need to dispose of the fuel-can too, or can I reuse that once it's
empty?

Naw.

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Cheers
Dave.

On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 13:05:15 +0000, Chris Green wrote:

T i m wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 11:26:12 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

snip

For environmental reasons chain lubricating oil is likely to be organic
but I don't know how that might impact on combustion in an engine or the
fuel filters.

I was wondering if the op actually shook the petrol can to mix the
(chain) oil into the petrol or not, as if not, it may well just be
sitting in the bottom of the can?

Then he might be able to tip the clean petrol off and then use it in a
lawnmower or other 'low spec' 4/ engine where a bit of oil wouldn't
typically harm anything (or my kitcar). ;-)

Or, if it was mixed, I wonder if it would settle out, given time (and
that it wasn't designed to be mixed)?

I'd be tempted to transfer it to a suitable clear glass container
(demijohn) and see what it does (just OOI etc).

I think I'd just add the right amount of 2-stroke oil as well and use
it.

Or maybe dilute it a bit across a couple of petrol cans topped up with
fresh fuel and do as you suggest?

Garden equipment 2-stroke engines are pretty basic and unfussy.

True and worst case you might have to clean the plug and exhaust.

Cheers, T i m

In article ,
Tim Lamb wrote:
If you have a petrol car, I would add it to the tank when it is nearly
full. It will burn to well for use on a bonfire.

Cue AJH:-)

For environmental reasons chain lubricating oil is likely to be organic
but I don't know how that might impact on combustion in an engine or the
fuel filters.

More of a worry to the catalytic convertor if fitted. They can be very
sensitive to some additives used in oils. And expensive to replace. I'd be
inclined to use it - diluted - in that two stroke engine (obviously with
the correct oil added)

Two stroke oil is relatively new in the scheme of things. At one time you
just added ordinary engine oil.

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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
idual.net...
On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 02:17:36 -0800 (PST), kdband wrote:

I expect that the fuel I mixed is useless, but not really knowing
anything about it I thought it worth checking first.

No one has come up with why you can't use it in the two stroke engine
it was intened for.

Chain oil was never intended to go in a 2Stroke engine, the oil added to the
petrol is the only lubrication it gets
would it work or not I dont know but I would not chance it
Best advice has been to use it in an old 4 stroke mower


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On 2/27/2017 4:37 PM, Mark wrote:
"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
idual.net...
On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 02:17:36 -0800 (PST), kdband wrote:

I expect that the fuel I mixed is useless, but not really knowing
anything about it I thought it worth checking first.

No one has come up with why you can't use it in the two stroke engine
it was intened for.

Well *one* good reason is that chain oil contains "stickyness"
additives, these are probably organic and quite likely to form gummy
deposits on your piston ring grooves.



Chain oil was never intended to go in a 2Stroke engine, the oil added to the
petrol is the only lubrication it gets
would it work or not I dont know but I would not chance it
Best advice has been to use it in an old 4 stroke mower


+1 to everything.

OK to re-use the can, though.

On 27/02/2017 13:10, TimW wrote:
On 27/02/17 10:17, kdband wrote:
So not paying proper attention, I managed to add chainsaw-oil rather
than 2-stroke oil to 5 litres of unleaded petrol. I spotted the
mistake as I went to put the lid back on the incorrectly opened
chainsaw-oil, so I haven't actually tried to use it.
I expect that the fuel I mixed is useless, but not really knowing
anything about it I thought it worth checking first.
Assuming it is spoiled, what's the best way of getting rid of it, or
should I save it to light next years bonfire? Do I need to dispose of
the fuel-can too, or can I reuse that once it's empty?


My neighbour tried to light a bonfire with petrol and had to be taken
away in an ambulance to the specialist burns unit.


Was it me?

http://s428.photobucket.com/user/ada...10001.jpg.html


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On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 11:26:12 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

In message , Michael Chare
writes
On 27/02/2017 10:17, kdband wrote:
So not paying proper attention, I managed to add chainsaw-oil rather
than 2-stroke oil to 5 litres of unleaded petrol. snip Do I need to dispose of
the fuel-can too, or can I reuse that once it's empty?


I'm assuming you mixed 50:1 (i.e. 2% oil)?

Certainly useless for lighting a fire even if you retire to a safe
distance, works for lighting a tyre better than gasoil.

If you have a petrol car, I would add it to the tank when it is nearly
full. It will burn to well for use on a bonfire.

So would I to my car but I'd not do it to one with a catalyst or
injectors. I'd also dilute it with proper 2T mix with another shot of
synthetic 2t oil and use it in my saws or hedgecutter but probably not
a new autotune saw.

Cue AJH:-)

You called ;-)

For environmental reasons chain lubricating oil is likely to be organic

Most are straight mineral oils with something added for tackiness, so
are emulsions with water and many, like I used to, use straight OSR
from the supermarket.

but I don't know how that might impact on combustion in an engine or the
fuel filters.

Nor do I but it would pass straight through the filters as it will
dissolve in petrol, it will smoke a bit and it will make catalysts get
hot but not really worth the risk given their cost.

I have an idea that fuel stations may have some provision for disposing
of petrol/diesel blends:-)



I added it to the red diesel tank, I know military vehicle enthusiasts
take it for the machines with the K60 engine, which is a diesel but
accepts petrol below 85 octane or mixtures with diesel.

AJH

"ARW" wrote in message ...

On 27/02/2017 13:10, TimW wrote:
On 27/02/17 10:17, kdband wrote:
So not paying proper attention, I managed to add chainsaw-oil rather
than 2-stroke oil to 5 litres of unleaded petrol. I spotted the
mistake as I went to put the lid back on the incorrectly opened
chainsaw-oil, so I haven't actually tried to use it.
I expect that the fuel I mixed is useless, but not really knowing
anything about it I thought it worth checking first.
Assuming it is spoiled, what's the best way of getting rid of it, or
should I save it to light next years bonfire? Do I need to dispose of
the fuel-can too, or can I reuse that once it's empty?


My neighbour tried to light a bonfire with petrol and had to be taken
away in an ambulance to the specialist burns unit.


Was it me?

http://s428.photobucket.com/user/ada...10001.jpg.html

WTF? Still had eyebrows! Or were they originally like Dennis Healy's?

kdband wrote

So not paying proper attention, I managed to add chainsaw-oil
rather than 2-stroke oil to 5 litres of unleaded petrol. I spotted
the mistake as I went to put the lid back on the incorrectly
opened chainsaw-oil, so I haven't actually tried to use it.

I expect that the fuel I mixed is useless, but not really knowing
anything about it I thought it worth checking first.

Assuming it is spoiled, what's the best way of getting rid of it,

Just pour it out on the ground where you arent planning to grow anything.

or should I save it to light next years bonfire?

Not a great idea to light bonfires that way.

Do I need to dispose of the fuel-can too,
or can I reuse that once it's empty?

Just rinse it out with some new petrol before filling it with petrol.

"Chris Green" wrote in message
...
T i m wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 11:26:12 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

snip

For environmental reasons chain lubricating oil is likely to be organic
but I don't know how that might impact on combustion in an engine or the
fuel filters.

I was wondering if the op actually shook the petrol can to mix the
(chain) oil into the petrol or not, as if not, it may well just be
sitting in the bottom of the can?

Then he might be able to tip the clean petrol off and then use it in a
lawnmower or other 'low spec' 4/ engine where a bit of oil wouldn't
typically harm anything (or my kitcar). ;-)

Or, if it was mixed, I wonder if it would settle out, given time (and
that it wasn't designed to be mixed)?

I'd be tempted to transfer it to a suitable clear glass container
(demijohn) and see what it does (just OOI etc).

I think I'd just add the right amount of 2-stroke oil as well and use
it. Garden equipment 2-stroke engines are pretty basic and unfussy.

You can make a case that because they are so much simpler than say
modern car engines, its more likely that the chain oil clag up the very
simple carb systems with garden equipment 2 stroke engines.

Personally I'd bin it, its only one can of fuel.

On 27/02/2017 17:38, ARW wrote:
On 27/02/2017 13:10, TimW wrote:
On 27/02/17 10:17, kdband wrote:
So not paying proper attention, I managed to add chainsaw-oil rather
than 2-stroke oil to 5 litres of unleaded petrol. I spotted the
mistake as I went to put the lid back on the incorrectly opened
chainsaw-oil, so I haven't actually tried to use it.
I expect that the fuel I mixed is useless, but not really knowing
anything about it I thought it worth checking first.
Assuming it is spoiled, what's the best way of getting rid of it, or
should I save it to light next years bonfire? Do I need to dispose of
the fuel-can too, or can I reuse that once it's empty?


My neighbour tried to light a bonfire with petrol and had to be taken
away in an ambulance to the specialist burns unit.


Was it me?

http://s428.photobucket.com/user/ada...10001.jpg.html

Ouch, no kissing allowed for how long?

"kdband" wrote in message
...
So not paying proper attention, I managed to add chainsaw-oil rather than
2-stroke oil to 5 litres of unleaded petrol. I spotted the mistake as I
went to put the lid back on the incorrectly opened chainsaw-oil, so I
haven't actually tried to use it.
I expect that the fuel I mixed is useless, but not really knowing anything
about it I thought it worth checking first.
Assuming it is spoiled, what's the best way of getting rid of it, or
should I save it to light next years bonfire? Do I need to dispose of the
fuel-can too, or can I reuse that once it's empty?

You could keep the can in your car and offer it to the first person you
encounter who has run out of petrol... :-) After all, he won't be able to
chase after you once it clogs his fuel system. :-)

On 27/02/2017 19:00, Richard wrote:
"ARW" wrote in message ...

On 27/02/2017 13:10, TimW wrote:
On 27/02/17 10:17, kdband wrote:
So not paying proper attention, I managed to add chainsaw-oil rather
than 2-stroke oil to 5 litres of unleaded petrol. I spotted the
mistake as I went to put the lid back on the incorrectly opened
chainsaw-oil, so I haven't actually tried to use it.
I expect that the fuel I mixed is useless, but not really knowing
anything about it I thought it worth checking first.
Assuming it is spoiled, what's the best way of getting rid of it, or
should I save it to light next years bonfire? Do I need to dispose of
the fuel-can too, or can I reuse that once it's empty?


My neighbour tried to light a bonfire with petrol and had to be taken
away in an ambulance to the specialist burns unit.


Was it me?

http://s428.photobucket.com/user/ada...10001.jpg.html

WTF? Still had eyebrows! Or were they originally like Dennis Healy's?

I thing my glasses saved them.

I still owe the idiot that threw the petrol on the fire a kick in the
********.

--
Adam

On 27/02/2017 20:34, Fredxxx wrote:
On 27/02/2017 17:38, ARW wrote:
On 27/02/2017 13:10, TimW wrote:
On 27/02/17 10:17, kdband wrote:
So not paying proper attention, I managed to add chainsaw-oil rather
than 2-stroke oil to 5 litres of unleaded petrol. I spotted the
mistake as I went to put the lid back on the incorrectly opened
chainsaw-oil, so I haven't actually tried to use it.
I expect that the fuel I mixed is useless, but not really knowing
anything about it I thought it worth checking first.
Assuming it is spoiled, what's the best way of getting rid of it, or
should I save it to light next years bonfire? Do I need to dispose of
the fuel-can too, or can I reuse that once it's empty?


My neighbour tried to light a bonfire with petrol and had to be taken
away in an ambulance to the specialist burns unit.


Was it me?

http://s428.photobucket.com/user/ada...10001.jpg.html

Ouch, no kissing allowed for how long?

About 6 weeks. And the cat I had at the time used to jump into bed at
night and try to lick my face.

--
Adam

On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 16:37:55 -0000, Mark wrote:

No one has come up with why you can't use it in the two stroke
engine
it was intened for.

Chain oil was never intended to go in a 2Stroke engine, the oil added to
the petrol is the only lubrication it gets

Which is why I suggested adding 25% of the normal amount of 2 stroke
oil as well and making sure it ran OK.

Best advice has been to use it in an old 4 stroke mower

The organics (if present) will still gum up the rings etc...

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Cheers
Dave.