Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front door.
People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I politely
asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have been in
trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames any
good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks

On Sunday, 5 February 2017 18:04:57 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front door.
People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I politely
asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have been in
trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames any
good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks

Google door restrainers.

What you want to consider is either a peep hole thingy or a video camera/audio link. You can get ones that bring up a picture on the TV. Plus a recorder if you want.

harry wrote:
On Sunday, 5 February 2017 18:04:57 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have
been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks

Google door restrainers.

What you want to consider is either a peep hole thingy or a video
camera/audio link. You can get ones that bring up a picture on the
TV. Plus a recorder if you want.

Door restrainers does not bring up very much.
I think a peep hole could be an idea.
A camera would blow my mind, I spent ages today working out why the telly
was not pushing sound through the speakers!
Thanks Harry.

On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 19:01:18 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

harry wrote:
On Sunday, 5 February 2017 18:04:57 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have
been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks

Google door restrainers.

What you want to consider is either a peep hole thingy or a video
camera/audio link. You can get ones that bring up a picture on the
TV. Plus a recorder if you want.

Door restrainers does not bring up very much.
I think a peep hole could be an idea.
A camera would blow my mind, I spent ages today working out why the telly
was not pushing sound through the speakers!
Thanks Harry.

Peepholes are used by most elderly folk around here. I didn't think you were that old yet.

So, what if you came across 5 or 6 very big lads cycling on the pavement?

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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 19:01:18 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
harry wrote:
On Sunday, 5 February 2017 18:04:57 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could
have been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks

Google door restrainers.

What you want to consider is either a peep hole thingy or a video
camera/audio link. You can get ones that bring up a picture on the
TV. Plus a recorder if you want.

Door restrainers does not bring up very much.
I think a peep hole could be an idea.
A camera would blow my mind, I spent ages today working out why the
telly was not pushing sound through the speakers!
Thanks Harry.

Peepholes are used by most elderly folk around here. I didn't think
you were that old yet.
So, what if you came across 5 or 6 very big lads cycling on the
pavement?

As ALWAYS your contribution to this group and any other group is zero.
The class clown you are and always will be.
What a fool you really are.

On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 19:22:20 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 19:01:18 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
harry wrote:
On Sunday, 5 February 2017 18:04:57 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could
have been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks

Google door restrainers.

What you want to consider is either a peep hole thingy or a video
camera/audio link. You can get ones that bring up a picture on the
TV. Plus a recorder if you want.

Door restrainers does not bring up very much.
I think a peep hole could be an idea.
A camera would blow my mind, I spent ages today working out why the
telly was not pushing sound through the speakers!
Thanks Harry.

Peepholes are used by most elderly folk around here. I didn't think
you were that old yet.
So, what if you came across 5 or 6 very big lads cycling on the
pavement?

As ALWAYS your contribution to this group and any other group is zero.

I was being helpful (in the other replies). This one was poking fun at you, since you're a self admitted assaulter, yet you now fear people coming to your door. Worried someone might get their own back are you?

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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 19:01:18 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

harry wrote:
On Sunday, 5 February 2017 18:04:57 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have
been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks

Google door restrainers.

What you want to consider is either a peep hole thingy or a video
camera/audio link. You can get ones that bring up a picture on the
TV. Plus a recorder if you want.

Door restrainers does not bring up very much.
I think a peep hole could be an idea.
A camera would blow my mind, I spent ages today working out why the telly
was not pushing sound through the speakers!
Thanks Harry.

Peepholes are used by most elderly folk around here. I didn't think you
were that old yet.

So, what if you came across 5 or 6 very big lads cycling on the pavement?

He ****s his pants, again.

On Sunday, 5 February 2017 19:01:51 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
harry wrote:
On Sunday, 5 February 2017 18:04:57 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have
been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks

Google door restrainers.

What you want to consider is either a peep hole thingy or a video
camera/audio link. You can get ones that bring up a picture on the
TV. Plus a recorder if you want.

Door restrainers does not bring up very much.
I think a peep hole could be an idea.
A camera would blow my mind, I spent ages today working out why the telly
was not pushing sound through the speakers!
Thanks Harry.

I was thinking of this sort of thing.
https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...g&action=click

On 2/5/2017 6:04 PM, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front door.
People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I politely
asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have been in
trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames any
good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks



PVC frame will have steel structure somewhere behind it. You would need
to drill and tap into that, or fit rivnuts, or perhaps steel pop rivets
to get security. Not necessarily a trivial job unless you are fairly handy.

You are quite right, screws into PVC won't do much. Screws into wood
will do very much better.

CCTV is becoming much more affordable (but not as cheap as a security
chain, of course).

newshound wrote:
On 2/5/2017 6:04 PM, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off. If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I
could have
been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks



PVC frame will have steel structure somewhere behind it. You would
need to drill and tap into that, or fit rivnuts, or perhaps steel pop
rivets to get security. Not necessarily a trivial job unless you are
fairly
handy.
You are quite right, screws into PVC won't do much. Screws into wood
will do very much better.

CCTV is becoming much more affordable (but not as cheap as a security
chain, of course).

PVC frame will have steel structure somewhere behind it.

The somewhere is the problem.

Thanks for the reply.

On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 19:03:21 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

newshound wrote:
On 2/5/2017 6:04 PM, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off. If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I
could have
been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks



PVC frame will have steel structure somewhere behind it. You would
need to drill and tap into that, or fit rivnuts, or perhaps steel pop
rivets to get security. Not necessarily a trivial job unless you are
fairly
handy.
You are quite right, screws into PVC won't do much. Screws into wood
will do very much better.

CCTV is becoming much more affordable (but not as cheap as a security
chain, of course).

PVC frame will have steel structure somewhere behind it.

The somewhere is the problem.

Thanks for the reply.

The PVC doors don't. You can stick your foot through them. Not burglar proof whatsoever.

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What's soft and warm when you go to bed, but hard and stiff when you wake up?
Vomit.

On 05/02/2017 19:09, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 19:03:21 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

newshound wrote:
On 2/5/2017 6:04 PM, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off. If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I
could have
been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks



PVC frame will have steel structure somewhere behind it. You would
need to drill and tap into that, or fit rivnuts, or perhaps steel pop
rivets to get security. Not necessarily a trivial job unless you are
fairly
handy.
You are quite right, screws into PVC won't do much. Screws into wood
will do very much better.

CCTV is becoming much more affordable (but not as cheap as a security
chain, of course).

PVC frame will have steel structure somewhere behind it.

The somewhere is the problem.

Thanks for the reply.

The PVC doors don't. You can stick your foot through them. Not burglar
proof whatsoever.

Yup, they are useless unless you buy the very best, which are extremely
expensive.
Nothing like a sturdy wooden front door, IMO.

Bod wrote:
On 05/02/2017 19:09, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 19:03:21 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

newshound wrote:
On 2/5/2017 6:04 PM, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off. If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no
good I could have
been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and
frames any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks



PVC frame will have steel structure somewhere behind it. You would
need to drill and tap into that, or fit rivnuts, or perhaps steel
pop rivets to get security. Not necessarily a trivial job unless
you are fairly
handy.
You are quite right, screws into PVC won't do much. Screws into
wood will do very much better.

CCTV is becoming much more affordable (but not as cheap as a
security chain, of course).

PVC frame will have steel structure somewhere behind it.

The somewhere is the problem.

Thanks for the reply.

The PVC doors don't. You can stick your foot through them. Not
burglar proof whatsoever.

Yup, they are useless unless you buy the very best, which are
extremely expensive.
Nothing like a sturdy wooden front door, IMO.

I bought the best.
Enjoy your pikey wooden door and the condensation running down the walls of
your .............. caravan.

Mr Pounder Esquire explained on 05/02/2017 :
PVC frame will have steel structure somewhere behind it.

The somewhere is the problem.

Small metal detector?

On 2/5/2017 9:17 PM, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Mr Pounder Esquire explained on 05/02/2017 :
PVC frame will have steel structure somewhere behind it.

The somewhere is the problem.

Small metal detector?

Rare earth magnet will localise it better. IME the only good way to do
it is to explore with a small drill, and hope you can conceal "misses".
This was what I did when fitting a stair gate hinge for son-in-law. In
that case I was happy that self tappers (in shear) would be strong enough.

On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 22:55:29 -0000, newshound wrote:

On 2/5/2017 9:17 PM, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Mr Pounder Esquire explained on 05/02/2017 :
PVC frame will have steel structure somewhere behind it.

The somewhere is the problem.

Small metal detector?

Rare earth magnet will localise it better.

Couldn't you spell neodymium? :-)

IME the only good way to do
it is to explore with a small drill, and hope you can conceal "misses".
This was what I did when fitting a stair gate hinge for son-in-law. In
that case I was happy that self tappers (in shear) would be strong enough.



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On Sunday, 5 February 2017 18:04:57 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front door.
People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I politely
asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have been in
trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames any
good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks

Door chains are certainly low security, but definitely better than nothing. They do help in some situations where nothing else does, so are worth the trivial cost. Many invaders don't kick doors in. Door bars are a similar but tougher option.

If it's 6 large lads, just don't open the door.


NT

On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 19:30:57 -0000, wrote:

On Sunday, 5 February 2017 18:04:57 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front door.
People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I politely
asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have been in
trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames any
good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks

Door chains are certainly low security, but definitely better than nothing. They do help in some situations where nothing else does, so are worth the trivial cost. Many invaders don't kick doors in. Door bars are a similar but tougher option.

If it's 6 large lads, just don't open the door.

Saying "who is it?" before unlocking the door works fine for a lot of old folk.

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wrote:
On Sunday, 5 February 2017 18:04:57 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have
been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks

Door chains are certainly low security, but definitely better than
nothing. They do help in some situations where nothing else does, so
are worth the trivial cost. Many invaders don't kick doors in. Door
bars are a similar but tougher option.

If it's 6 large lads, just don't open the door.

Yes, they are better than nothing.
I rather think that not opening the door fully is better than having to take
down 8 large lads.

Door chain I think it will be.

Thanks for your input.

On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 20:02:15 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

wrote:
On Sunday, 5 February 2017 18:04:57 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have
been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks

Door chains are certainly low security, but definitely better than
nothing. They do help in some situations where nothing else does, so
are worth the trivial cost. Many invaders don't kick doors in. Door
bars are a similar but tougher option.

If it's 6 large lads, just don't open the door.

Yes, they are better than nothing.
I rather think that not opening the door fully is better than having to take
down 8 large lads.

Door chain I think it will be.

Thanks for your input.

Why are you scared of people I'm not?

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On 05/02/2017 20:10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 20:02:15 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

wrote:
On Sunday, 5 February 2017 18:04:57 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have
been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks

Door chains are certainly low security, but definitely better than
nothing. They do help in some situations where nothing else does, so
are worth the trivial cost. Many invaders don't kick doors in. Door
bars are a similar but tougher option.

If it's 6 large lads, just don't open the door.

Yes, they are better than nothing.
I rather think that not opening the door fully is better than having
to take
down 8 large lads.

Door chain I think it will be.

Thanks for your input.

Why are you scared of people I'm not?

He must be scared because he arms himself with chisel as well.

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 20:02:15 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
wrote:
On Sunday, 5 February 2017 18:04:57 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could
have been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks

Door chains are certainly low security, but definitely better than
nothing. They do help in some situations where nothing else does, so
are worth the trivial cost. Many invaders don't kick doors in. Door
bars are a similar but tougher option.

If it's 6 large lads, just don't open the door.

Yes, they are better than nothing.
I rather think that not opening the door fully is better than having
to take down 8 large lads.

Door chain I think it will be.

Thanks for your input.

Why are you scared of people I'm not?

I asked here for assistance and I got it from decent people who like to
help.
All you have done is come out with your usual trolling crap.
You Mr Hucker are as thick as pig **** and always will be.
Like to tell us what you do for a living, Mr Hucker - you little dole
claiming **** all?

I apologise to this group for taking PHucker bait.

On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 20:47:10 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 20:02:15 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
wrote:
On Sunday, 5 February 2017 18:04:57 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could
have been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks

Door chains are certainly low security, but definitely better than
nothing. They do help in some situations where nothing else does, so
are worth the trivial cost. Many invaders don't kick doors in. Door
bars are a similar but tougher option.

If it's 6 large lads, just don't open the door.

Yes, they are better than nothing.
I rather think that not opening the door fully is better than having
to take down 8 large lads.

Door chain I think it will be.

Thanks for your input.

Why are you scared of people I'm not?

I asked here for assistance and I got it from decent people who like to
help.
All you have done is come out with your usual trolling crap.
You Mr Hucker are as thick as pig **** and always will be.
Like to tell us what you do for a living, Mr Hucker - you little dole
claiming **** all?

I apologise to this group for taking PHucker bait.

Stop evading the question. Why are you scared of people coming to your door? Old frail 90 year old women are scared.

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When a man steals your wife, there is no better revenge than to let him keep her.

On Sun, 5 Feb 2017 20:47:10 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Why are you scared of people I'm not?

I asked here for assistance and I got it from decent people who
like to help.

A few episodes of "won't pay we'll take it away" will show you how
bailiffs can force an entry if necessary. A good deterrent seems to
be a noisy terrier! In the end of course, better to come to some
arrangement to pay your debts!

Mr Pounder Esquire wrote

Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front door.
People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and cleared
off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have been
in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Obese doesn’t count.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames any
good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Makes more sense to use a camera if you're worried about that.

On 05/02/2017 21:15, Rod Speed wrote:
Mr Pounder Esquire wrote

Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have
been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Obese doesn’t count.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Makes more sense to use a camera if you're worried about that.

If it is a rare ocassion at night someone at your door just make a
wooden wedge and hold it with your foot, that will stop the door opening
beyond where you `jam` it. The harder they push the more it `jams`

On 05/02/2017 18:04, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames any
good?

No.

Never unlock the door unless you are certain of the caller's identity
and intent.

Bill

Bill Wright wrote
Mr Pounder Esquire wrote

Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames any
good?

No.

Never unlock the door unless you are certain of the caller's identity and
intent.

I'm not that mindlessly paranoid and the door is normally unlocked so that
those I know can just walk in without me bothering to get up and unlock it.

On 06/02/2017 09:36, Rod Speed wrote:
Bill Wright wrote
Mr Pounder Esquire wrote

Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?

No.

Never unlock the door unless you are certain of the caller's identity
and intent.

I'm not that mindlessly paranoid and the door is normally unlocked so that
those I know can just walk in without me bothering to get up and unlock it.

Same here. I suggest the OP move to a safer/decent area.
I also forget to lock the car on many occasions and it never worries us.

On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:28:38 -0000, Bod wrote:

On 06/02/2017 09:36, Rod Speed wrote:
Bill Wright wrote
Mr Pounder Esquire wrote

Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?

No.

Never unlock the door unless you are certain of the caller's identity
and intent.

I'm not that mindlessly paranoid and the door is normally unlocked so that
those I know can just walk in without me bothering to get up and unlock it.

Same here. I suggest the OP move to a safer/decent area.
I also forget to lock the car on many occasions and it never worries us.

Funny, Steve lives in the north where everyone is nice. Or was he making that up?

--
Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

Bod wrote:
On 06/02/2017 09:36, Rod Speed wrote:
Bill Wright wrote
Mr Pounder Esquire wrote

Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?

No.

Never unlock the door unless you are certain of the caller's
identity and intent.

I'm not that mindlessly paranoid and the door is normally unlocked
so that those I know can just walk in without me bothering to get up
and unlock it.


As for those that you don't know? As always the drugged up caravan dweller
has missed my point. Contribution to my question = zero.

Same here. I suggest the OP move to a safer/decent area.

I have done and guess what?
It's not a wooden caravan dripping with condensation on the inside.
From memory:
"It's grotty and you can't swing a cat around inside"
(Peter Hucker)




I also forget to lock the car on many occasions and it never worries
us.

That is the height of stupidity; well done.

On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 21:20:57 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Bod wrote:
On 06/02/2017 09:36, Rod Speed wrote:
Bill Wright wrote
Mr Pounder Esquire wrote

Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?

No.

Never unlock the door unless you are certain of the caller's
identity and intent.

I'm not that mindlessly paranoid and the door is normally unlocked
so that those I know can just walk in without me bothering to get up
and unlock it.


As for those that you don't know? As always the drugged up caravan dweller
has missed my point. Contribution to my question = zero.

Same here. I suggest the OP move to a safer/decent area.

I have done

Clearly not if you're scared of teenagers.

and guess what?
It's not a wooden caravan dripping with condensation on the inside.
From memory:
"It's grotty and you can't swing a cat around inside"
(Peter Hucker)

You really can't tell when someone's taking the **** out of you can you?

I also forget to lock the car on many occasions and it never worries
us.

That is the height of stupidity; well done.

It's not stupid if the car isn't stolen. Why do you live in an area where cars are stolen?

--
Testicle (n.), a humorous question on an exam.

Never mind door chains this aspect of human behaviour seems to be becoming a
problem. I have fitted a large box with a large button on it which is the
front end of my door phone. People complained before they could not see I
had a bell and knocked. Nobody can miss this one, but they still knock. The
big problem with these cordless intercoms is you cannot open the
conversation from inside since the bell button has to be pressed to turn on
the outside tx/rx part to save batteries.
I did have an old wired one but that did at least work both ways until some
herbert bashed the bell so hard it broke off inside the speaker box.
My current idea is to resurect the old system but just have it as an
intercom controlled from inside to sort out the knocking brigade. I have a
nice little horn speaker I might fit over the door. It will need a capacitor
in series with it though since the bell part of this old intercom is
operated by shorting out the intercom wire.. I don't want two bells in any
case the cordless one is for summer incase i get some time to go into my
garden!
Brian

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"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
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Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front door.
People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and cleared
off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have been
in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames any
good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks

Brian Gaff wrote

Never mind door chains this aspect of human behaviour seems to be becoming
a problem.

Not for me.

I have fitted a large box with a large button on it which is the front end
of my door phone.

I havent bothered.

People complained before they could not see I had a bell and knocked.
Nobody can miss this one, but they still knock.

Plenty of parcel delivery people say the same thing.

The big problem with these cordless intercoms is you cannot open the
conversation from inside since the bell button has to be pressed to turn
on the outside tx/rx part to save batteries.

Not true of the best designed ones.

I did have an old wired one but that did at least work both ways until
some herbert bashed the bell so hard it broke off inside the speaker box.

You should have had one that executed arseholes like that.

My current idea is to resurect the old system but just have it as an
intercom controlled from inside to sort out the knocking brigade.

Don’t get anything like a brigade show up myself.

I have a nice little horn speaker I might fit over the door. It will need
a capacitor in series with it though since the bell part of this old
intercom is operated by shorting out the intercom wire.. I don't want two
bells in any case the cordless one is for summer incase i get some time to
go into my garden!

Makes more sense to have a phone that the door
knockers use and then you can still talk to them when
you are slumming it in the greek islands or spain etc.

"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
news
Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front door.
People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and cleared
off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have been
in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames any
good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks

Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sun, 5 Feb 2017 18:04:24 -0000, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:

Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have
been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks


We have a stout door chain on our front door. The fitting on the door
itself has four screw-holes and the screws are self-tappers that go
through the steel frame inside the PVC. The chain itself is screwed
onto the door frame also with self-tappers. The chain is like this
with a solid flat link in the middle. http://tinyurl.com/jtgonhn I
have total faith in it! Whether justified, I don't know; probably not,
but not much would stop a determined effort to gain entry.

Its that steel frame thing and finding it.
I just may give the company that fitted the door a ring. Better than me
drilling holes all over the PVC.

Thanks for the reply Chris.

On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 19:07:23 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sun, 5 Feb 2017 18:04:24 -0000, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:

Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could have
been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks


We have a stout door chain on our front door. The fitting on the door
itself has four screw-holes and the screws are self-tappers that go
through the steel frame inside the PVC. The chain itself is screwed
onto the door frame also with self-tappers. The chain is like this
with a solid flat link in the middle. http://tinyurl.com/jtgonhn I
have total faith in it! Whether justified, I don't know; probably not,
but not much would stop a determined effort to gain entry.

Its that steel frame thing and finding it.
I just may give the company that fitted the door a ring. Better than me
drilling holes all over the PVC.

Thanks for the reply Chris.

Get one of those stud/wire/pipe detectors on Ebay for a tenner, it'll come in useful for other stuff. But don't buy the cheapest ones, they suck.

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I want to lie shipwrecked and comatose
Drinking fresh mango juice
With goldfish shoals nibbling round my toes
Fun in the sun

Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sun, 5 Feb 2017 19:07:23 -0000, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:

Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sun, 5 Feb 2017 18:04:24 -0000, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:

Last night at about 9PM in the dark there was a knock at the front
door. People never seem to see the door bell.
It was this dairy guy asking me if I'd like him to deliver milk. I
politely asked him if he could tell the time, he said "Sorry" and
cleared off.
If this had been 5 or 6 VERY big lads intent on no good I could
have been in trouble, even though I'm a big guy.

Question is:
Are these door chains that can be screwed into PVC doors and frames
any good?
I can't see the screws holding out against a good kick.

Thanks


We have a stout door chain on our front door. The fitting on the
door itself has four screw-holes and the screws are self-tappers
that go through the steel frame inside the PVC. The chain itself is
screwed onto the door frame also with self-tappers. The chain is
like this with a solid flat link in the middle.
http://tinyurl.com/jtgonhn I have total faith in it! Whether
justified, I don't know; probably not, but not much would stop a
determined effort to gain entry.

Its that steel frame thing and finding it.
I just may give the company that fitted the door a ring. Better than
me drilling holes all over the PVC.

Thanks for the reply Chris.

A little magnet is a great help, although if you just position the
door-fitting centrally on the door frame, you won't go far wrong.

Cheers Chris.