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http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Spotlights.jpg OK so we have first fixed the basement and ground floor of the extension. And the customer seems to like down lights. We will also be rewiring the existing house. So how many down lights will we end up fitting when the job is complete? There are no detailed plans so I do not know the answer ATM. However the person closest to the answer (when we have finished the job) will win a prize[1]. If it helps at all I can tell you that the basement extension has 54 down lights. [1] Probably a **** one -- Adam |
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ARW writes: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Spotlights.jpg OK so we have first fixed the basement and ground floor of the extension. And the customer seems to like down lights. We will also be rewiring the existing house. So how many down lights will we end up fitting when the job is complete? There are no detailed plans so I do not know the answer ATM. However the person closest to the answer (when we have finished the job) will win a prize[1]. If it helps at all I can tell you that the basement extension has 54 down lights. [1] Probably a **** one What angle are they on the top floor? -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Spotlights.jpg OK so we have first fixed the basement and ground floor of the extension. And the customer seems to like down lights. We will also be rewiring the existing house. So how many down lights will we end up fitting when the job is complete? There are no detailed plans so I do not know the answer ATM. However the person closest to the answer (when we have finished the job) will win a prize[1]. If it helps at all I can tell you that the basement extension has 54 down lights. [1] Probably a **** one 270. I am interested in what the view from the tastefully designed extension is like. Trees and more of the ****ty fence panels by any chance? |
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On Saturday, 26 November 2016 17:43:32 UTC, ARW wrote:
OK so we have first fixed the basement and ground floor of the extension. And the customer seems to like down lights. Has the customer discovered walk-over uplights yet? I'll guess 185. Have you put in fused spurs for the MP3 toilet-roll holders? Owain |
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On 26/11/2016 17:43, ARW wrote:
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Spotlights.jpg OK so we have first fixed the basement and ground floor of the extension. And the customer seems to like down lights. We will also be rewiring the existing house. So how many down lights will we end up fitting when the job is complete? There are no detailed plans so I do not know the answer ATM. However the person closest to the answer (when we have finished the job) will win a prize[1]. If it helps at all I can tell you that the basement extension has 54 down lights. 420 All fitted with grow lamps. -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On 26/11/2016 20:08, Richard wrote:
270. I am interested in what the view from the tastefully designed extension is like. Trees and more of the ****ty fence panels by any chance? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Insideout.jpg -- Adam |
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On 26/11/2016 20:08, Richard wrote: 270. I am interested in what the view from the tastefully designed extension is like. Trees and more of the ****ty fence panels by any chance? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Insideout.jpg Thanks. |
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On 27/11/2016 12:34, Huge wrote:
On 2016-11-27, ARW wrote: On 26/11/2016 20:08, Richard wrote: 270. I am interested in what the view from the tastefully designed extension is like. Trees and more of the ****ty fence panels by any chance? http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Insideout.jpg They'd have been better off spending the money moving somewhere with a nice view. In Doncaster? -- Adam |
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 17:43:34 +0000, ARW wrote:
However the person closest to the answer (when we have finished the job) will win a prize[1]. If it helps at all I can tell you that the basement extension has 54 down lights. [1] Probably a **** one I'm feeling lucky 'cos the only prizes I've ever won in my entire life have been **** ones. I'll say 64. |
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On Sunday, 27 November 2016 19:12:52 UTC, ARW wrote:
They'd have been better off spending the money moving somewhere with a nice view. In Doncaster? There must be nice parts of Doncaster? (Possibly outside it.) Found an internet comment that children in Bessacarr harden their conkers in balsamic vinegar. Owain |
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On 26/11/2016 17:43, ARW wrote:
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Spotlights.jpg OK so we have first fixed the basement and ground floor of the extension. And the customer seems to like down lights. We will also be rewiring the existing house. So how many down lights will we end up fitting when the job is complete? 172 |
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On 26/11/2016 17:43, ARW wrote:
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Spotlights.jpg OK so we have first fixed the basement and ground floor of the extension. And the customer seems to like down lights. We will also be rewiring the existing house. So how many down lights will we end up fitting when the job is complete? 134 -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Saturday, 26 November 2016 17:43:32 UTC, ARW wrote:
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Spotlights.jpg OK so we have first fixed the basement and ground floor of the extension. And the customer seems to like down lights. We will also be rewiring the existing house. So how many down lights will we end up fitting when the job is complete? There are no detailed plans so I do not know the answer ATM. However the person closest to the answer (when we have finished the job) will win a prize[1]. If it helps at all I can tell you that the basement extension has 54 down lights. [1] Probably a **** one I'll decline to guess, as a night out with one of your apprentices isn't something I'd like to 'win' ;-) -- Adam |
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On 26/11/16 17:43, ARW wrote:
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Spotlights.jpg OK so we have first fixed the basement and ground floor of the extension. And the customer seems to like down lights. We will also be rewiring the existing house. So how many down lights will we end up fitting when the job is complete? There are no detailed plans so I do not know the answer ATM. However the person closest to the answer (when we have finished the job) will win a prize[1]. 404. 202 up, then as customer changes mind, them 202 down and another 202 up. -- Adrian C |
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On 01/12/2016 20:48, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 26/11/16 17:43, ARW wrote: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Spotlights.jpg OK so we have first fixed the basement and ground floor of the extension. And the customer seems to like down lights. We will also be rewiring the existing house. So how many down lights will we end up fitting when the job is complete? There are no detailed plans so I do not know the answer ATM. However the person closest to the answer (when we have finished the job) will win a prize[1]. 404. 202 up, then as customer changes mind, them 202 down and another 202 up. I only found out about the loft conversion today! -- Adam |
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On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 6:00:37 PM UTC, ARW wrote:
On 01/12/2016 20:48, Adrian Caspersz wrote: On 26/11/16 17:43, ARW wrote: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:Spotlights.jpg OK so we have first fixed the basement and ground floor of the extension. And the customer seems to like down lights. We will also be rewiring the existing house. So how many down lights will we end up fitting when the job is complete? There are no detailed plans so I do not know the answer ATM. However the person closest to the answer (when we have finished the job) will win a prize[1]. 404. 202 up, then as customer changes mind, them 202 down and another 202 up. I only found out about the loft conversion today! -- Adam changing the goalposts ;-) Graph paper lighting design, downlighter every sqM. 367 total controlled by a 3 gang light switch per level... |
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On 03/12/2016 13:59, Adam Aglionby wrote:
changing the goalposts ;-) Graph paper lighting design, downlighter every sqM. 367 total controlled by a 3 gang light switch per level... Even I will not know the answer until the job is finished. So far Bedrooms 4 and 5 have both been 1st fixed (and their ensuites and dressing rooms) All spotlights. Both skylights are having LED strip to light them up. I set up the tower scaffold on Saturday for the Master bedroom 1st fix. And guess what - that's all spot lights. The games room will have a 12 gang dimmer switch. The bedrooms will all have Lightwave RF switches and for the ultimate in tackiness the ensuites and dressing rooms will have PIR sensors. -- Adam |
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On Monday, 5 December 2016 20:11:45 UTC, ARW wrote:
The bedrooms will all have Lightwave RF switches and for the ultimate in tackiness the ensuites and dressing rooms will have PIR sensors. Most of my visitors thought I was being adventurous with 2-way switching for the bedhead lights. Owain |
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"ARW" wrote in message ... On 03/12/2016 13:59, Adam Aglionby wrote: changing the goalposts ;-) Graph paper lighting design, downlighter every sqM. 367 total controlled by a 3 gang light switch per level... Even I will not know the answer until the job is finished. So far Bedrooms 4 and 5 have both been 1st fixed (and their ensuites and dressing rooms) All spotlights. Both skylights are having LED strip to light them up. I set up the tower scaffold on Saturday for the Master bedroom 1st fix. And guess what - that's all spot lights. The games room will have a 12 gang dimmer switch. The bedrooms will all have Lightwave RF switches and for the ultimate in tackiness the ensuites and dressing rooms will have PIR sensors. Nothing tacky about that, it makes sense to have them where its easy to ensure that they work reliably. |
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ARW wrote The bedrooms will all have Lightwave RF switches and for the ultimate in tackiness the ensuites and dressing rooms will have PIR sensors. Most of my visitors thought I was being adventurous with 2-way switching for the bedhead lights. Yeah, most dont have clue about a decent UI with lights. Clearly adam doesnt either. |
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On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 8:11:45 PM UTC, ARW wrote:
On 03/12/2016 13:59, Adam Aglionby wrote: changing the goalposts ;-) Graph paper lighting design, downlighter every sqM. 367 total controlled by a 3 gang light switch per level... Even I will not know the answer until the job is finished. So far Bedrooms 4 and 5 have both been 1st fixed (and their ensuites and dressing rooms) All spotlights. What lamp is going in the downlights RO60s? ;-) Both skylights are having LED strip to light them up. I set up the tower scaffold on Saturday for the Master bedroom 1st fix. And guess what - that's all spot lights. All the relaxing ambience of a motorway services.. No wall socket or floor circuits for table lamps? The games room will have a 12 gang dimmer switch. Don`t need to go full Lutron building management but gotta think a scene setting panel and remote dimmers would have been easier to fit. The bedrooms will all have Lightwave RF switches and for the ultimate in tackiness the ensuites and dressing rooms will have PIR sensors. No reading the paper on the throne for too long then ;-) Is there an additional award for guessing amount of cable going in, guess your going to go north of 3km total -- Adam |
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On 06/12/2016 11:39, Adam Aglionby wrote:
On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 8:11:45 PM UTC, ARW wrote: On 03/12/2016 13:59, Adam Aglionby wrote: changing the goalposts ;-) Graph paper lighting design, downlighter every sqM. 367 total controlled by a 3 gang light switch per level... Even I will not know the answer until the job is finished. So far Bedrooms 4 and 5 have both been 1st fixed (and their ensuites and dressing rooms) All spotlights. What lamp is going in the downlights RO60s? ;-) Both skylights are having LED strip to light them up. I set up the tower scaffold on Saturday for the Master bedroom 1st fix. And guess what - that's all spot lights. All the relaxing ambience of a motorway services.. No wall socket or floor circuits for table lamps? The games room will have a 12 gang dimmer switch. Don`t need to go full Lutron building management but gotta think a scene setting panel and remote dimmers would have been easier to fit. The bedrooms will all have Lightwave RF switches and for the ultimate in tackiness the ensuites and dressing rooms will have PIR sensors. No reading the paper on the throne for too long then ;-) Is there an additional award for guessing amount of cable going in, guess your going to go north of 3km total It will be all dimmable lighting. I WOULD have used Lutron if it was my house. The bit that gets me is that the ensuite's are not having doors fitted between them and the bedroom! As for the amount of cable. Now that is a good one. Are we talking just T&E? That's already passed the 5km mark and Bed 2 and 3 still need wiring up. Cheers -- Adam |
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On 09/12/2016 19:46, ARW wrote:
On 06/12/2016 11:39, Adam Aglionby wrote: On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 8:11:45 PM UTC, ARW wrote: On 03/12/2016 13:59, Adam Aglionby wrote: changing the goalposts ;-) Graph paper lighting design, downlighter every sqM. 367 total controlled by a 3 gang light switch per level... Even I will not know the answer until the job is finished. So far Bedrooms 4 and 5 have both been 1st fixed (and their ensuites and dressing rooms) All spotlights. What lamp is going in the downlights RO60s? ;-) Both skylights are having LED strip to light them up. I set up the tower scaffold on Saturday for the Master bedroom 1st fix. And guess what - that's all spot lights. All the relaxing ambience of a motorway services.. No wall socket or floor circuits for table lamps? The games room will have a 12 gang dimmer switch. Don`t need to go full Lutron building management but gotta think a scene setting panel and remote dimmers would have been easier to fit. The bedrooms will all have Lightwave RF switches and for the ultimate in tackiness the ensuites and dressing rooms will have PIR sensors. No reading the paper on the throne for too long then ;-) Is there an additional award for guessing amount of cable going in, guess your going to go north of 3km total It will be all dimmable lighting. I WOULD have used Lutron if it was my house. The bit that gets me is that the ensuite's are not having doors fitted between them and the bedroom! As for the amount of cable. Now that is a good one. Are we talking just T&E? That's already passed the 5km mark and Bed 2 and 3 still need wiring up. Hotels might have a few km of cable. We are talking of a house and you're saying you have already used 50 reels of T&E? I wonder how much of that has gone on foreigners? Certainly the house needed a fraction of that amount. |
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On 09/12/2016 20:10, Fredxxx wrote:
On 09/12/2016 19:46, ARW wrote: On 06/12/2016 11:39, Adam Aglionby wrote: On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 8:11:45 PM UTC, ARW wrote: On 03/12/2016 13:59, Adam Aglionby wrote: changing the goalposts ;-) Graph paper lighting design, downlighter every sqM. 367 total controlled by a 3 gang light switch per level... Even I will not know the answer until the job is finished. So far Bedrooms 4 and 5 have both been 1st fixed (and their ensuites and dressing rooms) All spotlights. What lamp is going in the downlights RO60s? ;-) Both skylights are having LED strip to light them up. I set up the tower scaffold on Saturday for the Master bedroom 1st fix. And guess what - that's all spot lights. All the relaxing ambience of a motorway services.. No wall socket or floor circuits for table lamps? The games room will have a 12 gang dimmer switch. Don`t need to go full Lutron building management but gotta think a scene setting panel and remote dimmers would have been easier to fit. The bedrooms will all have Lightwave RF switches and for the ultimate in tackiness the ensuites and dressing rooms will have PIR sensors. No reading the paper on the throne for too long then ;-) Is there an additional award for guessing amount of cable going in, guess your going to go north of 3km total It will be all dimmable lighting. I WOULD have used Lutron if it was my house. The bit that gets me is that the ensuite's are not having doors fitted between them and the bedroom! As for the amount of cable. Now that is a good one. Are we talking just T&E? That's already passed the 5km mark and Bed 2 and 3 still need wiring up. Hotels might have a few km of cable. We are talking of a house and you're saying you have already used 50 reels of T&E? I wonder how much of that has gone on foreigners? Certainly the house needed a fraction of that amount. Not immigration again? |
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On 09/12/2016 20:10, Fredxxx wrote:
On 09/12/2016 19:46, ARW wrote: As for the amount of cable. Now that is a good one. Are we talking just T&E? That's already passed the 5km mark and Bed 2 and 3 still need wiring up. Hotels might have a few km of cable. We are talking of a house and you're saying you have already used 50 reels of T&E? I wonder how much of that has gone on foreigners? Certainly the house needed a fraction of that amount. 50 rolls if you include the 3 core and earth. All outside lights are radials back to the garage [1], that used a fair bit. Radial circuits for two pumps, 2 fridgefreezers, 2 dishwashers, coffee machine, 2 ovens, microwave, quooker tap, hob. A radial for every room stat - this is UFH with separate stats for every room and don't forget that there are 5 ensuites and 5 dressing rooms) plus all the wiring from the manifolds back to the boiler. [1] Apart from the two lights on the master bedroom balcony but even they used up over 20m from the bedroom switch to the lights. -- Adam |
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On 10/12/2016 06:42, ARW wrote:
[1] Apart from the two lights on the master bedroom balcony but even they used up over 20m from the bedroom switch to the lights. Only one switch? Most people with large bedrooms like switches by the bed and the door(s). Maybe he has forgotten to ask? |
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On 10/12/2016 11:29, dennis@home wrote:
On 10/12/2016 06:42, ARW wrote: [1] Apart from the two lights on the master bedroom balcony but even they used up over 20m from the bedroom switch to the lights. Only one switch? Most people with large bedrooms like switches by the bed and the door(s). Maybe he has forgotten to ask? There is one switch for the two balcony lights. The other gangs of that switch will do the rest of the lights in the bedroom and some will be two wayed to the side of the bed. So 20m of cable from the lightswitch to the outside lights. -- Adam |
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