I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

Bill

On 07/11/2016 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

Bill

I sometime wonder if people voted for Brexit because of the BBC stance
on the subject.

Bill Wright posted
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.

I agree. It was completely disgraceful. I don't like Trump, but this was
just ridiculous. However, it is not at all unusual on the mainstream
media.

Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that
it's partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say
why the population has increased.


--
Jack

JoeJoe wrote:
On 07/11/2016 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

Bill

I sometime wonder if people voted for Brexit because of the BBC stance
on the subject.

I found myself automatically disagreeing with the BBC on everything.
Then I stopped watching TV, stopped buying a licence, and I became much
happier.

On Monday, 7 November 2016 20:07:00 UTC, Bill Wright wrote:
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

Is it because people are having more children because what's on the telly is so crap of an evening?

Owain

On 07/11/2016 20:28, JoeJoe wrote:
On 07/11/2016 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

Bill

I sometime wonder if people voted for Brexit because of the BBC stance
on the subject.

You meant out of mad like?

Bill

In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.

It's impossible for any human to be anything but one sided about Trump.

Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

Odd we don't have a shortage of mobile phones. Or cars. Or shops to sell
things to this 'massive population'.

Bill

--
*Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:
In article , JoeJoe
wrote:

On 07/11/2016 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total
one-sided bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided. Now Dispatches
are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's partly due
to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why the
population has increased.

I no longer watch C4 News due to the bias. Newsreaders have no business
projecting their opinions onto the airwaves.

Odd the way you 'leavers' just love quoting newspapers who support your
views.

--
*Would a fly without wings be called a walk?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 07/11/16 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

Bill

So you want to hear that it's all about immigration, even though that
would be a lie. Farage or the Mail will tell you that, and plenty of
other lies too. Stick with them in future.

TW

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.

It's impossible for any human to be anything but one sided about Trump.

Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

Odd we don't have a shortage of mobile phones. Or cars.
Or shops to sell things to this 'massive population'.

Because there are no limits on the production of those, stupid.

On Tuesday, 8 November 2016 01:19:07 UTC, TimW wrote:
On 07/11/16 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

Bill

So you want to hear that it's all about immigration, even though that
would be a lie. Farage or the Mail will tell you that, and plenty of
other lies too. Stick with them in future.



It's you that's the brain dead liar.
As usual.
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/key-topics/population

On 07/11/16 20:52, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , JoeJoe
wrote:

On 07/11/2016 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

I no longer watch C4 News due to the bias. Newsreaders have no business
projecting their opinions onto the airwaves.

IN fact news ins now the odd bare fact plus loads of "opinion" and
"human interest".

It's not really news.


--
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's
too dark to read.

Groucho Marx

On 08/11/16 01:19, TimW wrote:
On 07/11/16 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

Bill

So you want to hear that it's all about immigration, even though that
would be a lie. Farage or the Mail will tell you that, and plenty of
other lies too. Stick with them in future.


well it is all about immigration. the ones having kids are first
generation (Asian) immigrants by and large.

This is not xenophopbia, its actually a fact.


TW


--
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's
too dark to read.

Groucho Marx

On 07/11/2016 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.


It's not population increase - in the main the physical shortage is due
to household composition (more smaller households) and empty properties.

House prices are another, related, issue.

--
Cheers, Rob

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 07/11/16 20:52, Tim Streater wrote:
In article ,
JoeJoe
wrote:

On 07/11/2016 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total
one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention
that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't
say why
the population has increased.

I no longer watch C4 News due to the bias. Newsreaders have no
business
projecting their opinions onto the airwaves.

IN fact news ins now the odd bare fact plus loads of "opinion" and
"human interest".

It's not really news.



You overlooked the media paranoia (especially the BBC) with
celebrity - which isn't news either.


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

I also found the bbc program on why the trains are bad lacking in any
details as well. they presented the facts as they saw them, and the fact
that gov and companies blame each other, but then suggested nationalisation
might be a way to go, but never really produced any convincing evidence of
how this was supposed to solve things.To me the obvious answer is to rewrite
the contracts so all the companies colaborate and don't work against each
other might be one way. However I got the distinct oppinion that somebody
had got at the original thrust of what was going to be suggested for some
reason.

Too many half baked tell us what we already know documentaries around, just
to fill schedule space.
Of course the reason for populationgrowth is well known.
Back some years ago our birth rate was falling below the level at which the
tax paying public could support those who were getting pensions and who
needed healthcare with age, so the bright sparks came up with opening up the
doors to immigration as it is well known that in countries with poor
records on infant deaths that they have more babies for at least two
generations . The big snag of course is that this also then means you need
more schools houses and almost everything else, soaking up the money.
Governments never do see or even consider the whole picture when they do
things. They think of their budgets only. It has nothing to do with racial
descrimination or ethnic issues, its to do with idiots in government.
Brian

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why the
population has increased.

Bill

On 08/11/16 07:45, harry wrote:


It's you that's the brain dead liar.
As usual.
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/key-topics/population

I don't read links you post Harry because I have learned that you don't
read them yourself.

Let me tell you again. You have totally failed and refused to assimilate
yourself to British Culture. You don't accept the core values of
tolerance, openess, equality, love of justice and respect for others.
So by your own standards you really need to leave and live somewhere
else. There is no place for you in the UK. They won't want you in France
but you could start by moving into a tent at Ramsgate and trying to
hitch a lift on a lorry.

Bye.

TW

On 08/11/16 08:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/11/16 01:19, TimW wrote:
On 07/11/16 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

Bill

So you want to hear that it's all about immigration, even though that
would be a lie. Farage or the Mail will tell you that, and plenty of
other lies too. Stick with them in future.


well it is all about immigration. the ones having kids are first
generation (Asian) immigrants by and large.

This is not xenophopbia, its actually a fact.



You say it's people who were born here having too many children? Nothing
to do with immigration then, more a question of skin colour. Is that
what troubles you?
TW

On 08/11/16 09:45, TimW wrote:
On 08/11/16 08:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/11/16 01:19, TimW wrote:
On 07/11/16 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that
it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

Bill

So you want to hear that it's all about immigration, even though that
would be a lie. Farage or the Mail will tell you that, and plenty of
other lies too. Stick with them in future.


well it is all about immigration. the ones having kids are first
generation (Asian) immigrants by and large.

This is not xenophopbia, its actually a fact.



You say it's people who were born here having too many children? Nothing
to do with immigration then, more a question of skin colour. Is that
what troubles you?

You are letting your racism show.

Nothing to do with skin colour, everything to do with imported cultural
norms.


http://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulati...-uk-born-women

Or do you think the Office for national statistics is a rabid swivel
eyed spittle flecked den of xenophobes?

What an immigration denier you are, to be sure.


TW



--
€œBut what a weak barrier is truth when it stands in the way of an
hypothesis!€�

Mary Wollstonecraft

In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:
In article , RJH wrote:

On 07/11/2016 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

It's not population increase - in the main the physical shortage is due
to household composition (more smaller households) and empty properties.

15 million extra isn't a population increase, then?

House prices are another, related, issue.

And why d'ye think house prices might have gone up to the extent they
have?

Trickle down from Russian Oligarchs paying over the odds for mansions in
London.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

On 08/11/16 10:12, charles wrote:
In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:
In article , RJH wrote:

On 07/11/2016 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

It's not population increase - in the main the physical shortage is due
to household composition (more smaller households) and empty properties.

15 million extra isn't a population increase, then?

House prices are another, related, issue.

And why d'ye think house prices might have gone up to the extent they
have?

Trickle down from Russian Oligarchs paying over the odds for mansions in
London.

Was that a serious statement?

Do you really think the price of mansions in London affects the price of
an estate house in Hinkley?



--
"If you dont read the news paper, you are un-informed. If you read the
news paper, you are mis-informed."

Mark Twain

In article ,
charles wrote:
In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:
In article , RJH wrote:

On 07/11/2016 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total
one-sided bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided. Now
Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that
it's partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't
say why the population has increased.

It's not population increase - in the main the physical shortage is
due to household composition (more smaller households) and empty
properties.

15 million extra isn't a population increase, then?

House prices are another, related, issue.

And why d'ye think house prices might have gone up to the extent they
have?

Trickle down from Russian Oligarchs paying over the odds for mansions in
London.

There will always be those who wish to live in a desirable area. For all
sorts of reasons. Good schools, etc. And given you probably can't just
build more housing in that area, the prices go up. It's called capitalism.

--
*Gravity is a myth, the earth sucks *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

pamela wrote:
On 20:06 7 Nov 2016, Bill Wright wrote:

I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total
one-sided bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided. Now
Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that
it's partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they
don't say why the population has increased.

Bill

Worse than Jon Snow is the previous economics editor for Channel 4
News, Paul Mason. He's pleasant enough on the telly but very left
leaning and a good mate of wacko Greek economist and
self-proclaimed "game theorist", Yanis Varoufakis, who tried to
bluff Grexit with the EU but lost.


I've been quite surprised at some of Mason's outpourings now that he
feels able to speak his mind. I've read a few of Yanis's blog things,
and been surprised how sensible he seems when he's not making news.

"TimW" wrote in message ...
On 08/11/16 07:45, harry wrote:


It's you that's the brain dead liar.
As usual.
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/key-topics/population

I don't read links you post Harry because I have learned that you don't read them
yourself.

Let me tell you again. You have totally failed and refused to assimilate yourself to
British Culture. You don't accept the core values of tolerance, openess, equality, love
of justice and respect for others. So by your own standards you really need to leave
and live somewhere else. There is no place for you in the UK. They won't want you in
France but you could start by moving into a tent at Ramsgate and trying to hitch a lift
on a lorry.



But if you insist on making tolerance a core value of British Culture, and you claim to
encompass those values yourself, then you have no choice but to tolerate Harry and
his opinions.

Either you're tolerant or you're not. You can't pick and choose to tolerate only those
things which don't offend your own sensibilities too much.

Suggesting people move elsewhere is not very tolerant is it ?

Whereas if Harry hasn't claimed to be tolerant in the first place, then he would seem
to have carte blanche in such matters.

BTW the core value stuff is nonsense. It was all dreamed up so at to assuage the
guilt of the plantation and mill owning classes. The ordinary working classes
whether on plantations or in Cotton Mills never got a look in. And they still
haven't.

Martin wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2016 11:55:17 GMT, pamela wrote:

On 20:06 7 Nov 2016, Bill Wright wrote:

I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total
one-sided bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided. Now
Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that
it's partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they
don't say why the population has increased.

Bill

Worse than Jon Snow is the previous economics editor for Channel 4
News, Paul Mason. He's pleasant enough on the telly but very left
leaning and a good mate of wacko Greek economist and
self-proclaimed "game theorist", Yanis Varoufakis, who tried to
bluff Grexit with the EU but lost. \

You forgot "British educated and qualified economist" Varoufakis. My dentist is
related to him, a cousin or aunt?? Varoufakis has recently told Brexit
negotiators to expect the same treatment from the EU hierarchy as he got. I
expect worse. Greece's problems are that German banks lent Greece billions to
spend on German imports encouraged by the German government. Greece can't repay
the loans.


You might enjoy this if you have a spare hour or so.

https://varoufakis.files.wordpress.c...ne-paradox.pdf

On 08/11/16 12:18, Moron Watch wrote:
"TimW" wrote in message ...
On 08/11/16 07:45, harry wrote:


It's you that's the brain dead liar.
As usual.
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/key-topics/population

I don't read links you post Harry because I have learned that you don't read them
yourself.

Let me tell you again. You have totally failed and refused to assimilate yourself to
British Culture. You don't accept the core values of tolerance, openess, equality, love
of justice and respect for others. So by your own standards you really need to leave
and live somewhere else. There is no place for you in the UK. They won't want you in
France but you could start by moving into a tent at Ramsgate and trying to hitch a lift
on a lorry.



But if you insist on making tolerance a core value of British Culture, and you claim to
encompass those values yourself, then you have no choice but to tolerate Harry and
his opinions.

Either you're tolerant or you're not. You can't pick and choose to tolerate only those
things which don't offend your own sensibilities too much.

Suggesting people move elsewhere is not very tolerant is it ?

Whereas if Harry hasn't claimed to be tolerant in the first place, then he would seem
to have carte blanche in such matters.

BTW the core value stuff is nonsense. It was all dreamed up so at to assuage the
guilt of the plantation and mill owning classes. The ordinary working classes
whether on plantations or in Cotton Mills never got a look in. And they still
haven't.


It's all about 'Cultural Norms'. The Turnip just told me. Harry doesn't
share our 'Cultural Norms', it's nothing to do with his skin colour, if
he doesn't behave like a decent Englishman I can complain about him
being in my country. I am not a racist.

TW

"TimW" wrote in message ...
On 08/11/16 12:18, Moron Watch wrote:
"TimW" wrote in message ...
On 08/11/16 07:45, harry wrote:


It's you that's the brain dead liar.
As usual.
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/key-topics/population

I don't read links you post Harry because I have learned that you don't read them
yourself.

Let me tell you again. You have totally failed and refused to assimilate yourself to
British Culture. You don't accept the core values of tolerance, openess, equality,
love
of justice and respect for others. So by your own standards you really need to leave
and live somewhere else. There is no place for you in the UK. They won't want you in
France but you could start by moving into a tent at Ramsgate and trying to hitch a
lift
on a lorry.



But if you insist on making tolerance a core value of British Culture, and you claim
to
encompass those values yourself, then you have no choice but to tolerate Harry and
his opinions.

Either you're tolerant or you're not. You can't pick and choose to tolerate only those
things which don't offend your own sensibilities too much.

Suggesting people move elsewhere is not very tolerant is it ?

Whereas if Harry hasn't claimed to be tolerant in the first place, then he would seem
to have carte blanche in such matters.

BTW the core value stuff is nonsense. It was all dreamed up so at to assuage the
guilt of the plantation and mill owning classes. The ordinary working classes
whether on plantations or in Cotton Mills never got a look in. And they still
haven't.


It's all about 'Cultural Norms'. The Turnip just told me. Harry doesn't share our
'Cultural Norms',

But neither do you, if you complain about him being in the country.

You not only have have to tolerate him, but you must welcome his views as
evidence of a healthy diversity

it's nothing to do with his skin colour, if he doesn't behave like a decent Englishman
I can complain about him being in my country. I am not a racist.


See above.

In article ,
Moron Watch wrote:
BTW the core value stuff is nonsense. It was all dreamed up so at to
assuage the guilt of the plantation and mill owning classes. The
ordinary working classes whether on plantations or in Cotton Mills never
got a look in. And they still haven't.

Of course. Hundreds of years ago the hate was merely directed at the next
village or settlement. Then town or city. Then country.

Big problem is we seem to be going backwards in time.

--
*Never test the depth of the water with both feet.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 08/11/16 12:32, TimW wrote:
On 08/11/16 12:18, Moron Watch wrote:
"TimW" wrote in message
...
On 08/11/16 07:45, harry wrote:


It's you that's the brain dead liar.
As usual.
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/key-topics/population

I don't read links you post Harry because I have learned that you
don't read them
yourself.

Let me tell you again. You have totally failed and refused to
assimilate yourself to
British Culture. You don't accept the core values of tolerance,
openess, equality, love
of justice and respect for others. So by your own standards you
really need to leave
and live somewhere else. There is no place for you in the UK. They
won't want you in
France but you could start by moving into a tent at Ramsgate and
trying to hitch a lift
on a lorry.



But if you insist on making tolerance a core value of British
Culture, and you claim to
encompass those values yourself, then you have no choice but to
tolerate Harry and
his opinions.

Either you're tolerant or you're not. You can't pick and choose to
tolerate only those
things which don't offend your own sensibilities too much.

Suggesting people move elsewhere is not very tolerant is it ?

Whereas if Harry hasn't claimed to be tolerant in the first place,
then he would seem
to have carte blanche in such matters.

BTW the core value stuff is nonsense. It was all dreamed up so at to
assuage the
guilt of the plantation and mill owning classes. The ordinary working
classes
whether on plantations or in Cotton Mills never got a look in. And
they still
haven't.


It's all about 'Cultural Norms'. The Turnip just told me. Harry doesn't
share our 'Cultural Norms', it's nothing to do with his skin colour, if
he doesn't behave like a decent Englishman I can complain about him
being in my country. I am not a racist.

TW
The first rule about cultural norms, is that it's not culturally normal
to talk about cultural norms.

--
All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that
all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is
fully understood.

On 08/11/16 10:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/11/16 09:45, TimW wrote:
On 08/11/16 08:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/11/16 01:19, TimW wrote:
On 07/11/16 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total
one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that
it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

Bill

So you want to hear that it's all about immigration, even though that
would be a lie. Farage or the Mail will tell you that, and plenty of
other lies too. Stick with them in future.


well it is all about immigration. the ones having kids are first
generation (Asian) immigrants by and large.

This is not xenophopbia, its actually a fact.



You say it's people who were born here having too many children? Nothing
to do with immigration then, more a question of skin colour. Is that
what troubles you?

You are letting your racism show.

Nothing to do with skin colour, everything to do with imported cultural
norms.


http://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulati...-uk-born-women


Or do you think the Office for national statistics is a rabid swivel
eyed spittle flecked den of xenophobes?

What an immigration denier you are, to be sure.



You won't know these things about me: I am white. I have five children.
As it happens my Dad was born in India, my Granny in Jamaica. If you
want to share with me your opinion about my use of contraception I will
tell you to go and take a running jump and you won't even be surprised.
It's none of your business and you know it.

For some reason though, you think it's okay to pontificate about
brown-skinned people who do exactly the same as me. That is because you
are a racist. You don't think you are, but you have just proved beyond
any doubt that you are. You won't accept it because you can't see what
is clear as day. You are confused, deluded and stupid.

TW

On Tuesday, 8 November 2016 01:02:10 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.

It's impossible for any human to be anything but one sided about Trump.

I'll agree with that.


Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

Odd we don't have a shortage of mobile phones. Or cars. Or shops to sell
things to this 'massive population'.

Well after Brexit they'll be no mobile phones as we won't have a trade deal
then there's be a shortage of Stella...

Maybe I should go a get an iphone ASAP I don't like stella prefer spitfire or speckled hen or old pecular, I guess the dollar-pound-Euro rate will see the price rise.

On Tuesday, 8 November 2016 10:13:06 UTC, charles wrote:
In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:
In article , RJH wrote:

On 07/11/2016 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

It's not population increase - in the main the physical shortage is due
to household composition (more smaller households) and empty properties.

15 million extra isn't a population increase, then?

House prices are another, related, issue.

And why d'ye think house prices might have gone up to the extent they
have?

Trickle down from Russian Oligarchs paying over the odds for mansions in
London.

Really, do you really think they are buying up 1-3 bed flats in east london ?

On Tuesday, 8 November 2016 12:41:46 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Moron Watch wrote:
BTW the core value stuff is nonsense. It was all dreamed up so at to
assuage the guilt of the plantation and mill owning classes. The
ordinary working classes whether on plantations or in Cotton Mills never
got a look in. And they still haven't.

Of course. Hundreds of years ago the hate was merely directed at the next
village or settlement. Then town or city. Then country.

Big problem is we seem to be going backwards in time.

Yes it was last weeks victorian slums makingn the poor poorer and teh richer richer, which is why london become so succesfull on the backs of the poor in east london then bringing in more and more people meant wages went down or production had to go up.

On 08/11/16 12:46, TimW wrote:
On 08/11/16 10:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/11/16 09:45, TimW wrote:
On 08/11/16 08:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/11/16 01:19, TimW wrote:
On 07/11/16 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total
one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that
it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say
why
the population has increased.

Bill

So you want to hear that it's all about immigration, even though that
would be a lie. Farage or the Mail will tell you that, and plenty of
other lies too. Stick with them in future.


well it is all about immigration. the ones having kids are first
generation (Asian) immigrants by and large.

This is not xenophopbia, its actually a fact.



You say it's people who were born here having too many children? Nothing
to do with immigration then, more a question of skin colour. Is that
what troubles you?

You are letting your racism show.

Nothing to do with skin colour, everything to do with imported cultural
norms.


http://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulati...-uk-born-women



Or do you think the Office for national statistics is a rabid swivel
eyed spittle flecked den of xenophobes?

What an immigration denier you are, to be sure.



You won't know these things about me: I am white. I have five children.
As it happens my Dad was born in India, my Granny in Jamaica.

Well then you are exactly the point. first generation immigrant with far
too many children.

If you
want to share with me your opinion about my use of contraception I will
tell you to go and take a running jump and you won't even be surprised.
It's none of your business and you know it.


Nm but it is societies, as those 5 children will have received
infinitely more benefit than I ever have, and will need housing...

So we can take it that you are a social parasite then?


For some reason though, you think it's okay to pontificate about
brown-skinned people who do exactly the same as me.

Who said anything about 'brown skinned'

You say you are white whatever that means, and your dad was born in
india. It's you who sees race everywhere.

That is because you
are a racist. You don't think you are, but you have just proved beyond
any doubt that you are. You won't accept it because you can't see what
is clear as day. You are confused, deluded and stupid.

That is because you are a racist. You don't think you are, but you have
just proved beyond any doubt that you are. You won't accept it because
you can't see what is clear as day. You are confused, deluded and stupid.

Well thanks for a clear admission on your part that you are a racist, as
'I am white' is the sort of statement only a racist CAN make.

I pointed you at facts. Facts about *immigration* not about 'race' You
don't like the facts. So you call me a racist for pointing them out.


Sad.

TW


--
You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a
kind word alone.

Al Capone

Martin wrote:
On Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:20:53 +0000, "Dan S. MacAbre" wrote:

Martin wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2016 11:55:17 GMT, pamela wrote:

On 20:06 7 Nov 2016, Bill Wright wrote:

I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total
one-sided bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided. Now
Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that
it's partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they
don't say why the population has increased.

Bill

Worse than Jon Snow is the previous economics editor for Channel 4
News, Paul Mason. He's pleasant enough on the telly but very left
leaning and a good mate of wacko Greek economist and
self-proclaimed "game theorist", Yanis Varoufakis, who tried to
bluff Grexit with the EU but lost. \

You forgot "British educated and qualified economist" Varoufakis. My dentist is
related to him, a cousin or aunt?? Varoufakis has recently told Brexit
negotiators to expect the same treatment from the EU hierarchy as he got. I
expect worse. Greece's problems are that German banks lent Greece billions to
spend on German imports encouraged by the German government. Greece can't repay
the loans.


You might enjoy this if you have a spare hour or so.

https://varoufakis.files.wordpress.c...ne-paradox.pdf


I did enjoy the article. Thanks. So who is really wacko?


Dunno. Perhaps it's all theatre.

En el artículo , TimW
escribió:

That is because you
are a racist. You don't think you are, but you have just proved beyond
any doubt that you are. You won't accept it because you can't see what
is clear as day. You are confused, deluded and stupid.

He's also incredibly narrow-minded. He's right and everyone else is
wrong. The Usenet equivalent of your local pub loud-mouthed bore.

Best killfiled.

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(")_(")

On 08/11/2016 00:46, Bill Wright wrote:
On 07/11/2016 20:28, JoeJoe wrote:
On 07/11/2016 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.

Bill

I sometime wonder if people voted for Brexit because of the BBC stance
on the subject.

You meant out of mad like?

No, but out of viewing their (vastly over-paid, almost exclusively
oxbridge graduates) arrogant and biased presenters that are as
antagonising as the politicians that most experts believe were the
reason the "plebs up north" voted leave.

On 08/11/2016 12:12, Martin wrote:
Greece's problems are that German banks lent Greece billions to
spend on German imports encouraged by the German government. Greece can't repay
the loans.

Well, Greece's problem is that people in Greece, in particular the self
employed and the middle classes are tax avoiders (upper classes don't
pay tax anywhere...). See
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=2109500 for example.

In article ,
JoeJoe wrote:
I sometime wonder if people voted for Brexit because of the BBC stance
on the subject.

You meant out of mad like?

No, but out of viewing their (vastly over-paid, almost exclusively
oxbridge graduates) arrogant and biased presenters that are as
antagonising as the politicians that most experts believe were the
reason the "plebs up north" voted leave.

Yes. Far better to take note of the vastly over paid 'oxbridge graduates'
like Boris. At least you had the choice there - given he changed his mind
so often.

And St Nige came from good working class stock, did he?

The very very sad thing is that all those 'working class plebs up north'
who voted out on the basis of *promises* of a better life after leaving
the EU are the most likely ones to be stuffed even more by an economic
downturn.

The idea that this Tory government would somehow insulate them from the
country as a whole getting poorer is simply pie in the sky. They've
carried on with cuts to benefits for the low paid employed. And you ain't
seen anything yet.

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On 08/11/2016 08:09, RJH wrote:
On 07/11/2016 20:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I've just watched John Snow's report from the US. Utter total one-sided
bias against Trump. Staggeringly one-sided.
Now Dispatches are on about the housing shortage. They mention that it's
partly due to the 'massive population increase' but they don't say why
the population has increased.


It's not population increase - in the main the physical shortage is due
to household composition (more smaller households) and empty properties.

So the programme was wrong?

If the problem is that more people live alone why isn't there a price
premium on small flats?

Bill