The Natural Philosopher wrote:

francce is in deep **** because half their nukes
are out fore political reasons

I can see from WNN that they have a handful down for steel checks on the
pressure vessels, what others are off?

On 05/11/16 10:38, Andy Burns wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

francce is in deep **** because half their nukes
are out fore political reasons

I can see from WNN that they have a handful down for steel checks on the
pressure vessels, what others are off?

20 out of 58 are offline

http://www.powermag.com/frances-nucl...lity-concerns/

"The discovery of widespread carbon segregation problems in critical
nuclear plant components has crippled the French power industry€”20 of
the countrys 58 reactors are currently offline and under heavy
scrutiny. Frances nuclear safety chairman said more anomalies €œwill
likely be found,€� as the extent of the contagion is still being uncovered."

"critics continued to push for a more stringent investigation. In
September 2015, the release of an independent evaluation conducted by
Large and Associates€”a UK-based engineering firm€”at the *request of
Greenpeace France* really blew the doors open."


EDF says., sure there are issues, but they are not relevant to safety
per se'

Then Greenpeace commissions a report to find different.

In the current left leaning anti-nuclear EU climate, that's enough to
shut down one third of Frances nukes.


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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

EDF says., sure there are issues, but they are not relevant to
safety per se' Then Greenpeace commissions a report to find
different.

Hadn't spotted that, I guess all the above, plus the coal plants we've
shut in the last year or two, explains why the big6 aren't exactly
drowning us with fixed tariff offers as per the last few years?

Get fracking boys!

On 05/11/2016 09:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 04/11/16 18:41, GB wrote:
On 04/11/2016 18:34, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 4 Nov 2016 16:56:18 +0000, GB wrote:

http://bmreports.com/bsp/bsp.php#day_day_margin_2_14

Now minus 344MW - but still fecked.

How does this work out? Aren't there industrial users who agree to be
the first to be switched off? Are there enough of them?

I suspect they'll use SBR (Supplemental Balancing Reserve) before
DSBR (Demand Side Balancing Reserve). We appear to have quite a lot
of SBR this
winter:

http://www2.nationalgrid.com/UK/Serv...ces/System-sec
urity/Contingency-balancing-reserve/Operational-Information/

I add that up to 3.717 GW. 6 CCGT, 2 coal, 2 OCGT. Prices from 1.3p
(+ extras) to 55p kWHr.


Does that mean I could put my bike on a stand, hitch a generator to it,
and sell electricity at say 50p per kWhr at peak demand times, whilst
getting very, very fit?


In theory, yes.

However at a likely output of at most 200W, that equates to 10p an hour.

How much does *that* put the industrial revolution, with its replacement
of manual labour and horse drawn transport, with fossil fuel, into
perspective...

Indeed, and the 10p per hour is only at times of peak demand. The rest
of the time it's more like 1p.

En el artículo , Andy Burns
escribió:

I can see from WNN that they have a handful down for steel checks on the
pressure vessels, what others are off?

http://www.powermag.com/frances-nucl...r-plants-down-
due-to-quality-concerns/

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En el artículo , Mike Tomlinson
escribió:

http://www.powermag.com/frances-nucl...r-plants-down-
due-to-quality-concerns/

and despite that, we've been importing 2GW from the French
interconnector (i.e. running at full pelt) for the last few days.

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On Sunday, 6 November 2016 11:00:49 UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo , Mike Tomlinson
escribió:

http://www.powermag.com/frances-nucl...r-plants-down-
due-to-quality-concerns/

and despite that, we've been importing 2GW from the French
interconnector (i.e. running at full pelt) for the last few days.


Wind is doing well today.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwkAVglXcAAySv9.jpg

Mike Tomlinson wrote:

we've been importing 2GW from the French
interconnector (i.e. running at full pelt) for the last few days.

Actually in the last month, it seems to have swung both ways rather than
its "normal" full-blown import mode.

On 06/11/16 11:00, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo , Mike Tomlinson
escribió:

http://www.powermag.com/frances-nucl...r-plants-down-
due-to-quality-concerns/

and despite that, we've been importing 2GW from the French
interconnector (i.e. running at full pelt) for the last few days.


AS usual, wrong.


(i) No, we havent.
(ii) Saturdays and Sundays are low demand days.

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En el artículo , Andy Burns
escribió:

Actually in the last month, it seems to have swung both ways rather than
its "normal" full-blown import mode.

OK, ta. Just noted the last couple days it seemed to be all one way -
in our direction. Seems odd with the French having so many nukes down.

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En el artículo , Chris Hogg
escribió:

Hardly full pelt.

I has been when I've looked, but see my reply to Andy.

Up and down like a whores drawers. We've quite
regularly been exporting up to 2GW to them in recent weeks.

Ta.

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On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at 11:48:12 AM UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo , Chris Hogg
escribió:

Hardly full pelt.

I has been when I've looked, but see my reply to Andy.

Up and down like a whores drawers. We've quite
regularly been exporting up to 2GW to them in recent weeks.

Ta.

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"I has been"

retard

En el artículo ,
escribió:

"I has been"

retard

A misspelling of "It has been". Obvious if you think about it, but you
lack the necessary functionality.

Retard.

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On 08/11/16 10:22, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
snip ********
Retard.


An apt signature, one feels.

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On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 10:27:29 AM UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo ,
escribió:

"I has been"

retard

A misspelling of "It has been". Obvious if you think about it, but you
lack the necessary functionality.

Retard.

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I did make that assumption but Michael it is hypocritical of you to insult others that make a similar mistake. Were all human.

On 08/11/16 11:56, wrote:


I did make that assumption but Michael it is hypocritical of you to
insult others that make a similar mistake. Were all human.

Are you sure?



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On 11/5/2016 11:09 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 05/11/16 10:38, Andy Burns wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

francce is in deep **** because half their nukes
are out fore political reasons

I can see from WNN that they have a handful down for steel checks on the
pressure vessels, what others are off?

20 out of 58 are offline

http://www.powermag.com/frances-nucl...lity-concerns/


"The discovery of widespread carbon segregation problems in critical
nuclear plant components has crippled the French power industry€”20 of
the countrys 58 reactors are currently offline and under heavy
scrutiny. Frances nuclear safety chairman said more anomalies €œwill
likely be found,€� as the extent of the contagion is still being uncovered."

"critics continued to push for a more stringent investigation. In
September 2015, the release of an independent evaluation conducted by
Large and Associates€”a UK-based engineering firm€”at the *request of
Greenpeace France* really blew the doors open."


EDF says., sure there are issues, but they are not relevant to safety
per se'

Then Greenpeace commissions a report to find different.

In the current left leaning anti-nuclear EU climate, that's enough to
shut down one third of Frances nukes.


This is the down-side to having highly standardised plant, compared to
the UK approach where almost every site is completely different. It has
bitten the French once or twice before, but on the whole their track
record has been pretty good. I'm confident that the French regulator
will be as thorough as ours, so I'm not worried about exploding plant.
But it could be *very* expensive if they can't find a fix. I assume they
will start with a combination of sampling and modelling.

On 08/11/16 13:47, newshound wrote:
On 11/5/2016 11:09 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 05/11/16 10:38, Andy Burns wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

francce is in deep **** because half their nukes
are out fore political reasons

I can see from WNN that they have a handful down for steel checks on the
pressure vessels, what others are off?

20 out of 58 are offline

http://www.powermag.com/frances-nucl...lity-concerns/



"The discovery of widespread carbon segregation problems in critical
nuclear plant components has crippled the French power industry€”20 of
the countrys 58 reactors are currently offline and under heavy
scrutiny. Frances nuclear safety chairman said more anomalies €œwill
likely be found,€� as the extent of the contagion is still being
uncovered."

"critics continued to push for a more stringent investigation. In
September 2015, the release of an independent evaluation conducted by
Large and Associates€”a UK-based engineering firm€”at the *request of
Greenpeace France* really blew the doors open."


EDF says., sure there are issues, but they are not relevant to safety
per se'

Then Greenpeace commissions a report to find different.

In the current left leaning anti-nuclear EU climate, that's enough to
shut down one third of Frances nukes.


This is the down-side to having highly standardised plant, compared to
the UK approach where almost every site is completely different.

No. its the downside of having a massively politicised nuclear regulator
who responds to pressure from Greenpeace. Who are funded by anti-nuclear
interests

The situation with the French reactors is no worse than the graphite
cracking in the AGRs - basically there is an issue, its not serious and
can be dealt with during standard statutory inspections.

It has
bitten the French once or twice before, but on the whole their track
record has been pretty good. I'm confident that the French regulator
will be as thorough as ours, so I'm not worried about exploding plant.
But it could be *very* expensive if they can't find a fix. I assume they
will start with a combination of sampling and modelling.

You just replace any suspect parts. Or if that's too expensive signal
end of reactor life.

I'm confident that the French regulator will have been instructed
politically I'm confident that the French regulator to be far more
'thorough' than is necessary...



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