Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder 22mm copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the job. Any sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and seem unnecessarily expensive.


NT

On 11/10/2016 17:43, wrote:
Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder 22mm copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the job. Any sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and seem unnecessarily expensive.


NT

I've got two Rothenburgers. One is about 30 years old and the other
about 20, both are still working like new.
They were used constantly/daily when I was a plumber before I retired.

On 11/10/16 17:43, wrote:
Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder 22mm copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the job. Any sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and seem unnecessarily expensive.


NT

Any piece of crap will do for a basic pipe soldering job.

I mean how hard is a valve a nozzle and a burner tube and a cylinder of gas?


--
"I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah
puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".

wrote:

Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder 22mm copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the job. Any sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and seem unnecessarily expensive.

This one has served me OK, lights first time, needs a minute or two to
warm up if you're going to tilt it past 45 degrees, handles 22mm joints.

http://www.diy.com/departments/at2071h-gosystem-blow-torch/30062_BQ.prd

On Tuesday, 11 October 2016 18:05:41 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 11/10/16 17:43, tabbypurr wrote:

Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder 22mm copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the job. Any sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and seem unnecessarily expensive.

Any piece of crap will do for a basic pipe soldering job.

I mean how hard is a valve a nozzle and a burner tube and a cylinder of gas?

That's what I thought, but can't find my piece of crap one anywhere. Maybe the bad Screwsatan reviews are just poor workmen, I don't know.


NT

On 10/11/2016 6:11 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
wrote:

Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder
22mm copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the job.
Any sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and seem
unnecessarily expensive.

This one has served me OK, lights first time, needs a minute or two to
warm up if you're going to tilt it past 45 degrees, handles 22mm joints.

http://www.diy.com/departments/at2071h-gosystem-blow-torch/30062_BQ.prd

I'd expect these to be OK too (numerous similar offers on eBay)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blow-Torch...4AAOSwNRdX-kFw

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 11/10/16 17:43, wrote:
Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder 22mm
copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the job. Any
sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and seem
unnecessarily expensive.


NT

Any piece of crap will do for a basic pipe soldering job.

I mean how hard is a valve a nozzle and a burner tube and a cylinder of
gas?

You'd think? I had return three blowtorches one after the other to Homebase,
then demanded a refund, because they kept popping and going out. Got one
from Wickes instead.
--
Dave W

Bod wrote:
On 11/10/2016 17:43, wrote:
Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder
22mm copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the
job. Any sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and
seem unnecessarily expensive. NT

I've got two Rothenburgers. One is about 30 years old and the other
about 20, both are still working like new.
They were used constantly/daily

when I was a plumber before I retired.

Can't resist your lie about you being a plumber ............... as in
qualified.
So, just stop your lying.

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 18:02:46 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 11/10/2016 17:43, wrote:
Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder 22mm copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the job. Any sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and seem unnecessarily expensive.


NT

I've got two Rothenburgers. One is about 30 years old and the other
about 20, both are still working like new.
They were used constantly/daily when I was a plumber before I retired.

+1 on the Rothenburger (Super Fire 2). Fast start, hot flame, spares
available, nice piece of kit.

Cheers, T i m

On 11/10/2016 21:38, T i m wrote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 18:02:46 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 11/10/2016 17:43, wrote:
Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder 22mm copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the job. Any sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and seem unnecessarily expensive.


NT

I've got two Rothenburgers. One is about 30 years old and the other
about 20, both are still working like new.
They were used constantly/daily when I was a plumber before I retired.

+1 on the Rothenburger (Super Fire 2). Fast start, hot flame, spares
available, nice piece of kit.


+2 for the Rothenburger Super Fire 2 although I do use it with MAP.
Trigger operation so it can be switched off when put down and instantly
started again when picked up - it works inverted without problems.


--
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On Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:25:40 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
On 10/11/2016 6:11 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
tabbypurr wrote:

Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder
22mm copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the job.
Any sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and seem
unnecessarily expensive.

This one has served me OK, lights first time, needs a minute or two to
warm up if you're going to tilt it past 45 degrees, handles 22mm joints.

http://www.diy.com/departments/at2071h-gosystem-blow-torch/30062_BQ.prd

I'd expect these to be OK too (numerous similar offers on eBay)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blow-Torch...4AAOSwNRdX-kFw

Lovely, a China special should do the job. Thanks.

Before I get one, 2 questions to which I assume the answer is no:
1. I've got a small camping gas stove. Any likelihood that could do it?
2. I've got an Aldi gas mini soldering torch kit, about 8" long plus assorted bits. "?
3. Who's got my Taymar?


NT

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 21:36:17 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Bod wrote:
On 11/10/2016 17:43, wrote:
Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder
22mm copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the
job. Any sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and
seem unnecessarily expensive. NT

I've got two Rothenburgers. One is about 30 years old and the other
about 20, both are still working like new.
They were used constantly/daily

when I was a plumber before I retired.

Can't resist your lie about you being a plumber ............... as in
qualified.
So, just stop your lying.

What makes you believe he is lying?

--
Mike Hallett discussing missed snooker shots on Sky Sports: "Stephen Hendry jumps on Steve Davis's misses every chance he gets."

"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 21:36:17 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

Bod wrote:
On 11/10/2016 17:43, wrote:
Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder
22mm copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the
job. Any sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and
seem unnecessarily expensive. NT

I've got two Rothenburgers. One is about 30 years old and the other
about 20, both are still working like new.
They were used constantly/daily

when I was a plumber before I retired.

Can't resist your lie about you being a plumber ............... as in
qualified.
So, just stop your lying.

What makes you believe he is lying?

He's always been a terminal ****wit. That's why he got kicked out of this
country.

On 11/10/16 20:53, Dave W wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 11/10/16 17:43, wrote:
Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder 22mm
copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the job. Any
sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and seem
unnecessarily expensive.


NT

Any piece of crap will do for a basic pipe soldering job.

I mean how hard is a valve a nozzle and a burner tube and a cylinder of
gas?

You'd think? I had return three blowtorches one after the other to Homebase,
then demanded a refund, because they kept popping and going out. Got one
from Wickes instead.

HOMEBASE. YOU BOUGHT SOMETHING AT HOMEBASE?

Even their Christmas trees died before Christmas.

--
Those who want slavery should have the grace to name it by its proper
name. They must face the full meaning of that which they are advocating
or condoning; the full, exact, specific meaning of collectivism, of its
logical implications, of the principles upon which it is based, and of
the ultimate consequences to which these principles will lead. They must
face it, then decide whether this is what they want or not.

Ayn Rand.

On 12/10/2016 09:21, pamela wrote:
On 20:07 11 Oct 2016, wrote:

On Tuesday, 11 October 2016 18:05:41 UTC+1, The Natural
Philosopher wrote:
On 11/10/16 17:43, tabbypurr wrote:

Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to
solder 22mm copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it
can do the job. Any sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated
at Screwsatan, and seem unnecessarily expensive.

Any piece of crap will do for a basic pipe soldering job.

I mean how hard is a valve a nozzle and a burner tube and a
cylinder of gas?

That's what I thought, but can't find my piece of crap one
anywhere. Maybe the bad Screwsatan reviews are just poor
workmen, I don't know.

Is "Screwsatan" a reference to both Screwfix and Toolstation
together?

Lol.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 11/10/16 20:53, Dave W wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 11/10/16 17:43, wrote:
Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder 22mm
copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the job. Any
sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and seem
unnecessarily expensive.


NT

Any piece of crap will do for a basic pipe soldering job.

I mean how hard is a valve a nozzle and a burner tube and a cylinder of
gas?

You'd think? I had return three blowtorches one after the other to
Homebase,
then demanded a refund, because they kept popping and going out. Got one
from Wickes instead.

HOMEBASE. YOU BOUGHT SOMETHING AT HOMEBASE?

Even their Christmas trees died before Christmas.

Ha Ha! Maybe they might be different now they've been taken over. After
then, I bought some fence panels click&collect online, because they were the
cheapest. Instore, the labels still showed the previous expensive prices.
When I queried it, they said I would have only had to pay the new price at
the checkout! Obviously the staff have no interest in sales.
--
Dave W

On Wednesday, 12 October 2016 09:43:48 UTC+1, Bod wrote:
On 12/10/2016 09:21, pamela wrote:
On 20:07 11 Oct 2016, wrote:

anywhere. Maybe the bad Screwsatan reviews are just poor
workmen, I don't know.

Is "Screwsatan" a reference to both Screwfix and Toolstation
together?

Lol.

Yup


NT

On Tuesday, 11 October 2016 18:05:41 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 11/10/16 17:43, wrote:
Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder 22mm copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the job. Any sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and seem unnecessarily expensive.


NT

Any piece of crap will do for a basic pipe soldering job.

https://bilablau.co.uk/kitchen-blowt...FdaRGwod7hAEcA

;-)


I mean how hard is a valve a nozzle and a burner tube and a cylinder of gas?


can ordinary or proper BTs be used for cooking ?, not that I have one or am liklely to use one, just like to expand my knowledge unlike some others here.

On 10/11/2016 10:55 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:25:40 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
On 10/11/2016 6:11 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
tabbypurr wrote:

Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder
22mm copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the job.
Any sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and seem
unnecessarily expensive.

This one has served me OK, lights first time, needs a minute or two to
warm up if you're going to tilt it past 45 degrees, handles 22mm joints.

http://www.diy.com/departments/at2071h-gosystem-blow-torch/30062_BQ.prd

I'd expect these to be OK too (numerous similar offers on eBay)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blow-Torch...4AAOSwNRdX-kFw

Lovely, a China special should do the job. Thanks.

Often nothing wrong with China specials, IME


Before I get one, 2 questions to which I assume the answer is no:
1. I've got a small camping gas stove. Any likelihood that could do it?

Maybe, provided you can move the pipe round to spread the heat evenly.
Certainly possible to put a fitting on the end of a (free) length of 15
mm pipe that way.

2. I've got an Aldi gas mini soldering torch kit, about 8" long plus assorted bits. "?

Unlikely to have enough heat output. But do you have a hot air gun? I
believe that with a concentrator nozzle you might be able to do it
(although I have never tried myself).

3. Who's got my Taymar?


You have, it will turn up when you buy a replacement


NT

On Wednesday, 12 October 2016 12:04:35 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
On 10/11/2016 10:55 PM, tabbypurr wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:25:40 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
On 10/11/2016 6:11 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
tabbypurr wrote:

Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder
22mm copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the job.
Any sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and seem
unnecessarily expensive.

This one has served me OK, lights first time, needs a minute or two to
warm up if you're going to tilt it past 45 degrees, handles 22mm joints.

http://www.diy.com/departments/at2071h-gosystem-blow-torch/30062_BQ.prd

I'd expect these to be OK too (numerous similar offers on eBay)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blow-Torch...4AAOSwNRdX-kFw

Lovely, a China special should do the job. Thanks.

Often nothing wrong with China specials, IME


Before I get one, 2 questions to which I assume the answer is no:
1. I've got a small camping gas stove. Any likelihood that could do it?

Maybe, provided you can move the pipe round to spread the heat evenly.
Certainly possible to put a fitting on the end of a (free) length of 15
mm pipe that way.

2. I've got an Aldi gas mini soldering torch kit, about 8" long plus assorted bits. "?

Unlikely to have enough heat output. But do you have a hot air gun? I
believe that with a concentrator nozzle you might be able to do it
(although I have never tried myself).

3. Who's got my Taymar?


You have, it will turn up when you buy a replacement

ha, of course.

NT

In article ,
Bod wrote:
On 11/10/2016 17:43, wrote:
Looking for one that will see very little use, but needs to solder 22mm copper pipe. So the cheap is good, as long as it can do the job. Any sugestions? The Rothenbergers got slated at Screwsatan, and seem unnecessarily expensive.


NT

I've got two Rothenburgers. One is about 30 years old and the other
about 20, both are still working like new.
They were used constantly/daily when I was a plumber before I retired.


I've got a CampingGaz one bought some 40 odd years ago. Use to plumb this
house and a great deal more. Can't really complain. Hope you can still get
cylinders for it - still have a couple of new ones in stock. It's just
about powerful enough for 28mm tube. 22mm easy.

--
*Born free...Taxed to death.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

wrote:

3. Who's got my Taymar?

How old?

Made of brass and with a hand-pump for the paraffin,
or orange paint with a touch or rust?

On Wednesday, 12 October 2016 15:39:23 UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
tabbypurr wrote:

3. Who's got my Taymar?

How old?

Made of brass and with a hand-pump for the paraffin,

I gather those have a bad safety record. Still used in India though.

or orange paint with a touch or rust?

Yup, one of those.


NT

On 12/10/2016 09:59, Dave W wrote:
Ha Ha! Maybe they might be different now they've been taken over. After
then, I bought some fence panels click&collect online, because they were the
cheapest. Instore, the labels still showed the previous expensive prices.
When I queried it, they said I would have only had to pay the new price at
the checkout! Obviously the staff have no interest in sales.

Very similar experience - wanted some specific compost and every other
source within sensible distance was out of stock. Theirs was under a
sign clearly saying £4-99 with no doubt about the product.
Click-and-collect was a more reasonable £3-69 (or so). We had originally
walked past it simply because it was more than we would pay.

I know the actual amount is pretty small but the attitude behind the
shop is dire.

--
Rod

On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 09:21:53 +0100, pamela wrote:

====snip====


That's what I thought, but can't find my piece of crap one anywhere.
Maybe the bad Screwsatan reviews are just poor workmen, I don't know.

Is "Screwsatan" a reference to both Screwfix and Toolstation together?

Did you *really* have to ask? :-)

--
Johnny B Good

On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 10:11:32 +0100, pamela wrote:

On 10:03 12 Oct 2016, wrote:

On Wednesday, 12 October 2016 09:43:48 UTC+1, Bod wrote:
On 12/10/2016 09:21, pamela wrote:
On 20:07 11 Oct 2016, wrote:

anywhere. Maybe the bad Screwsatan reviews are just poor workmen, I
don't know.

Is "Screwsatan" a reference to both Screwfix and Toolstation
together?

Lol.

Yup


NT

Hey guys, joking aside, I don't know exactly what "Screwsatan" is
referring to.

Wadda you doin' here then?

You don't have to spend much time lurking in this news group to see the
frequent mention of Toolstation (oft referred to as "Toolsatan") and
Screwfix. The portmanteau word, "Screwsatan" is an obvious 'no-brainer'
reference (a bit like the "Aldiddle" one).

--
Johnny B Good

In article ,
pamela wrote:
Similarly I'm not sure why I see Toolstation called Toolsatan.
Surveys suggest their customers like the company a lot but, on the
other hand, "Satan" suggests the writer wants to draw attention to
some problem.

I do find it odd that customers give a company they obviously use a
derogatory name. WTF would you use a company you detest? Not like they
have a monopoly.

--
*Fax is stronger than fiction *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
pamela wrote:
Similarly I'm not sure why I see Toolstation called Toolsatan.
Surveys suggest their customers like the company a lot but, on the
other hand, "Satan" suggests the writer wants to draw attention to
some problem.

I do find it odd that customers give a company they obviously use a
derogatory name. WTF would you use a company you detest?

Because they have what you need, or are much more convenient to get to.

Not like they
have a monopoly.

--
*Fax is stronger than fiction *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.