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On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:11:43 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKas...Y#t=543.672167 Snake oil! Quite. Ere, harry, I heard about a similar scam where 'some people' pay good money to put solar panels on their roofs (possibly blighting their houses and buying into obsolete technology) that *only* provides energy when (and you will like this bit), during the sunny days (and not at all at night) and very little when the sun isn't shining hard or during the winter etc. However, in spite of that massive 'issue'. you get other people (who have no choice in the matter) to *pay you* for the energy your create, even if you use it yourself! Yeah, you heard it right! And get this, it's index linked and guaranteed for 20 years or so! But I wonder what sort of person would stoop as low as to impose that on anyone else eh, not anyone with a functioning moral compass that's for sure! I best it's the same people who push in at the last second on merging traffic or leave just as it's their round down the pub. ;-( Oh, and I nearly forgot ... not only do those same 'people' (and this really takes some believing) want to earn money off the rest of us for their 'snake oil' scam, they *also* expect us to carry on powering *them* when their panels aren't working (so that's at least 1/3 of every year!). You really couldn't make it up could you!!! Cheers, T i m |
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On Tue, 06 Sep 2016 20:12:04 +0100, T i m wrote:
Ere, harry, I heard about a similar scam where 'some people' pay good money to put solar panels on their roofs (possibly blighting their houses and buying into obsolete technology) that *only* provides energy when (and you will like this bit), during the sunny days (and not at all at night) and very little when the sun isn't shining hard or during the winter etc. However, in spite of that massive 'issue'. you get other people (who have no choice in the matter) to *pay you* for the energy your create, even if you use it yourself! Yeah, you heard it right! And get this, it's index linked and guaranteed for 20 years or so! That's a bit Bob Newhart ish, or the Cadbury's Smash aliens. G.Harmans |
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2016 09:12:20 +0100, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 07 Sep 2016 01:01:21 +0100, wrote: On Tue, 06 Sep 2016 20:12:04 +0100, T i m wrote: Ere, harry, I heard about a similar scam where 'some people' pay good money to put solar panels on their roofs (possibly blighting their houses and buying into obsolete technology) that *only* provides energy when (and you will like this bit), during the sunny days (and not at all at night) That's a bit Bob Newhart ish, or the Cadbury's Smash aliens. Thanks ... probably more the latter ... that was exactly the spirit. ;-) No problem, the particular B ,Newhart sketch I had in mind was Introducing Tobacco To Civilization. For those unfamiliar with it. G.Harman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XDxAzVEbN4 |
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On Tuesday, 6 September 2016 20:12:05 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:11:43 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKas...Y#t=543.672167 Snake oil! Quite. Ere, harry, I heard about a similar scam where 'some people' pay good money to put solar panels on their roofs (possibly blighting their houses and buying into obsolete technology) that *only* provides energy when (and you will like this bit), during the sunny days (and not at all at night) and very little when the sun isn't shining hard or during the winter etc. However, in spite of that massive 'issue'. you get other people (who have no choice in the matter) to *pay you* for the energy your create, even if you use it yourself! Yeah, you heard it right! And get this, it's index linked and guaranteed for 20 years or so! But I wonder what sort of person would stoop as low as to impose that on anyone else eh, not anyone with a functioning moral compass that's for sure! I best it's the same people who push in at the last second on merging traffic or leave just as it's their round down the pub. ;-( Oh, and I nearly forgot ... not only do those same 'people' (and this really takes some believing) want to earn money off the rest of us for their 'snake oil' scam, they *also* expect us to carry on powering *them* when their panels aren't working (so that's at least 1/3 of every year!). You really couldn't make it up could you!!! Cheers, T i m I hear there's free passes for buses which not everybody uses/gets. Oh and schools which everybody has to pay for. And an NHS. And child/unemployment benefit. Not everybody's as thick as you. |
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On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 09:11:04 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote: On Tuesday, 6 September 2016 20:12:05 UTC+1, T i m wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:11:43 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKas...Y#t=543.672167 Snake oil! Quite. Ere, harry, I heard about a similar scam where 'some people' pay good money to put solar panels on their roofs (possibly blighting their houses and buying into obsolete technology) that *only* provides energy when (and you will like this bit), during the sunny days (and not at all at night) and very little when the sun isn't shining hard or during the winter etc. However, in spite of that massive 'issue'. you get other people (who have no choice in the matter) to *pay you* for the energy your create, even if you use it yourself! Yeah, you heard it right! And get this, it's index linked and guaranteed for 20 years or so! But I wonder what sort of person would stoop as low as to impose that on anyone else eh, not anyone with a functioning moral compass that's for sure! I best it's the same people who push in at the last second on merging traffic or leave just as it's their round down the pub. ;-( Oh, and I nearly forgot ... not only do those same 'people' (and this really takes some believing) want to earn money off the rest of us for their 'snake oil' scam, they *also* expect us to carry on powering *them* when their panels aren't working (so that's at least 1/3 of every year!). You really couldn't make it up could you!!! Cheers, T i m I hear there's free passes for buses which not everybody uses/gets. Oh dear, no wonder you are confused and morally bankrupt mate. ;-( See, no one has any issues with someone recouping the 'perks' of paying say their tax or NI for many many years and getting a benefit from that to help them out (be it old age or disability related). The *difference* with your bogus FIT theft is that not everyone pays towards it and few then get *paid* from it. The equivalent would be getting a buss pass, using it *and* getting paid to hire it out. You are no different to those who are given council houses then sub let them for a *profit*. Not even the same as them not living in it themselves but letting some family members use it instead (at no cost or no profit). Oh and schools which everybody has to pay for. Because they also benefit *society*. How else are they going to get people into jobs to be able to earn money to be able to buy electricity to be able to fund *your* little personal (non shared, non 'social') cash cow? And an NHS. And child/unemployment benefit. See above. Not everybody's as thick as you. Oh dear, caught a raw nerve have I harry? A tiny pang of guilt shining though that pot of cash you are earning from some of us whilst creating more pollution and not resolving any real energy supply issues as you do so? Cheers, T i m |
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![]() "harry" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 6 September 2016 20:12:05 UTC+1, T i m wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:11:43 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKas...Y#t=543.672167 Snake oil! Quite. Ere, harry, I heard about a similar scam where 'some people' pay good money to put solar panels on their roofs (possibly blighting their houses and buying into obsolete technology) that *only* provides energy when (and you will like this bit), during the sunny days (and not at all at night) and very little when the sun isn't shining hard or during the winter etc. However, in spite of that massive 'issue'. you get other people (who have no choice in the matter) to *pay you* for the energy your create, even if you use it yourself! Yeah, you heard it right! And get this, it's index linked and guaranteed for 20 years or so! But I wonder what sort of person would stoop as low as to impose that on anyone else eh, not anyone with a functioning moral compass that's for sure! I best it's the same people who push in at the last second on merging traffic or leave just as it's their round down the pub. ;-( Oh, and I nearly forgot ... not only do those same 'people' (and this really takes some believing) want to earn money off the rest of us for their 'snake oil' scam, they *also* expect us to carry on powering *them* when their panels aren't working (so that's at least 1/3 of every year!). You really couldn't make it up could you!!! I hear there's free passes for buses which not everybody uses/gets. Oh and schools which everybody has to pay for. Not everyone does, most obviously those whose entire income is benefits. And an NHS. And child/unemployment benefit. Ditto. Not everybody's as thick as you. |
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"Rod Speed" Wrote in message:
"harry" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 6 September 2016 20:12:05 UTC+1, T i m wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:11:43 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKas...Y#t=543.672167 Snake oil! Quite. Ere, harry, I heard about a similar scam where 'some people' pay good money to put solar panels on their roofs (possibly blighting their houses and buying into obsolete technology) that *only* provides energy when (and you will like this bit), during the sunny days (and not at all at night) and very little when the sun isn't shining hard or during the winter etc. However, in spite of that massive 'issue'. you get other people (who have no choice in the matter) to *pay you* for the energy your create, even if you use it yourself! Yeah, you heard it right! And get this, it's index linked and guaranteed for 20 years or so! But I wonder what sort of person would stoop as low as to impose that on anyone else eh, not anyone with a functioning moral compass that's for sure! I best it's the same people who push in at the last second on merging traffic or leave just as it's their round down the pub. ;-( Oh, and I nearly forgot ... not only do those same 'people' (and this really takes some believing) want to earn money off the rest of us for their 'snake oil' scam, they *also* expect us to carry on powering *them* when their panels aren't working (so that's at least 1/3 of every year!). You really couldn't make it up could you!!! I hear there's free passes for buses which not everybody uses/gets. Oh and schools which everybody has to pay for. Not everyone does, most obviously those whose entire income is benefits. Erm VAT /sales tax? Or do they not buy anything either? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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![]() "jim" k wrote in message o.uk... "Rod Speed" Wrote in message: "harry" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 6 September 2016 20:12:05 UTC+1, T i m wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:11:43 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKas...Y#t=543.672167 Snake oil! Quite. Ere, harry, I heard about a similar scam where 'some people' pay good money to put solar panels on their roofs (possibly blighting their houses and buying into obsolete technology) that *only* provides energy when (and you will like this bit), during the sunny days (and not at all at night) and very little when the sun isn't shining hard or during the winter etc. However, in spite of that massive 'issue'. you get other people (who have no choice in the matter) to *pay you* for the energy your create, even if you use it yourself! Yeah, you heard it right! And get this, it's index linked and guaranteed for 20 years or so! But I wonder what sort of person would stoop as low as to impose that on anyone else eh, not anyone with a functioning moral compass that's for sure! I best it's the same people who push in at the last second on merging traffic or leave just as it's their round down the pub. ;-( Oh, and I nearly forgot ... not only do those same 'people' (and this really takes some believing) want to earn money off the rest of us for their 'snake oil' scam, they *also* expect us to carry on powering *them* when their panels aren't working (so that's at least 1/3 of every year!). You really couldn't make it up could you!!! I hear there's free passes for buses which not everybody uses/gets. Oh and schools which everybody has to pay for. Not everyone does, most obviously those whose entire income is benefits. Erm VAT /sales tax? When their entire income is benefits, the govt had obviously given them that money and then collected some of that back with VAT/sales tax/excise on grog etc. Or do they not buy anything either? |
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On Thursday, 8 September 2016 11:23:47 UTC+1, jim wrote:
"Rod Speed" Wrote in message: "harry" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 6 September 2016 20:12:05 UTC+1, T i m wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:11:43 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKas...Y#t=543.672167 Snake oil! Quite. Ere, harry, I heard about a similar scam where 'some people' pay good money to put solar panels on their roofs (possibly blighting their houses and buying into obsolete technology) that *only* provides energy when (and you will like this bit), during the sunny days (and not at all at night) and very little when the sun isn't shining hard or during the winter etc. However, in spite of that massive 'issue'. you get other people (who have no choice in the matter) to *pay you* for the energy your create, even if you use it yourself! Yeah, you heard it right! And get this, it's index linked and guaranteed for 20 years or so! But I wonder what sort of person would stoop as low as to impose that on anyone else eh, not anyone with a functioning moral compass that's for sure! I best it's the same people who push in at the last second on merging traffic or leave just as it's their round down the pub. ;-( Oh, and I nearly forgot ... not only do those same 'people' (and this really takes some believing) want to earn money off the rest of us for their 'snake oil' scam, they *also* expect us to carry on powering *them* when their panels aren't working (so that's at least 1/3 of every year!). You really couldn't make it up could you!!! I hear there's free passes for buses which not everybody uses/gets. Oh and schools which everybody has to pay for. Not everyone does, most obviously those whose entire income is benefits. Erm VAT /sales tax? Or do they not buy anything either? trouble is with VAT at 20% whatever they are buying only a 1/5 or less of the money spend is coming back, and the tax payer is giving them every penny they spend anyway. of course you could explain it using an example. But you won't. Thare's one in teh metro today page 8. Basicaly a husband that is studying and his wife and 8 children are complaining that their 3 bed council house is to small and has rejected a 5 bed house as to tiny they want a bigger house. They came from france and as they had nowhere to stay were put up in a hotel for 4 months. So niether the kids nor the parents were working, so how does the UK profit from this situation and if it doesn't who's paying for it because ubnless money is self producing......... and has no limits. |
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... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKas...Y#t=543.672167 Snake oil! FFS they went bankrupt years ago. -- Adam |
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On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:12:12 +0100, "ARW"
wrote: "harry" wrote in message ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKas...Y#t=543.672167 Snake oil! FFS they went bankrupt years ago. FFS others seem to be making similar products, so it remains a legitimate topic for discussion: http://powerstar.com/what-is-voltage-optimisation/ |
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On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:11:43 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKas...Y#t=543.672167 Snake oil! You don't follow Big Clive then? -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On Tuesday, 6 September 2016 23:10:05 UTC+1, Graham. wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:11:43 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKas...Y#t=543.672167 Snake oil! You don't follow Big Clive then? Oh yes. Very informative his dismemberings. |
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